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JUDASisMYhomeboy
xCosmic Voidx
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Posted - 2014.12.29 07:04:00 -
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So how is it done? Now im not talking just that regular strafe, im talking that mongolid on crack uber strafe people do.
i see all suits do it (even heavies).
I have deplated most of my suits in favor of ferros and reps. I hipfire. Ive done the circle, the v and the figure 8. I have used it on scouts, min assault, cal assault and still can't make it happen.
Some may claim its kbm but i actually believe people who say its not true.
So what gives? Help a brother out
"In a world gone mad,only a lunatic is truly insane"
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Buwaro Draemon
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
497
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Posted - 2014.12.29 07:14:00 -
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JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote:So how is it done? Now im not talking just that regular strafe, im talking that mongolid on crack uber strafe people do.
i see all suits do it (even heavies).
I have deplated most of my suits in favor of ferros and reps. I hipfire. Ive done the circle, the v and the figure 8. I have used it on scouts, min assault, cal assault and still can't make it happen.
Some may claim its kbm but i actually believe people who say its not true.
So what gives? Help a brother out
I've done all bro. And been outstrafed fiercely.
It is KBM.
On the controller you have to move the stick around which creates a little delay but on KBM you just press the WASD buttons as fast as you can with no delay.
Changes to Damage mods!
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Leovarian L Lavitz
NECROM0NGERS
1207
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Posted - 2014.12.29 07:23:00 -
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Mass-driver fixes that.
Omni-Soldier
Few are my equal in these specialties, none compare in all of them
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Timtron Victory
Tech Guard
RISE of LEGION
132
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Posted - 2014.12.29 07:44:00 -
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I tried using the flaylock as I needed a Light weapon but the splash range is ridiculous, maybe at level 5 I can change that.
I still think that jumping over explosives is ridiculous though. Thats why grenades that arent cooked are worthless
Proud Christian
Jesus Loves You
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1602
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Posted - 2014.12.29 07:51:00 -
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You can look at the way they move and tell it's KBM , DS3's just don't work like that .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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GLOBAL fils'de RAGE
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2014.12.29 07:53:00 -
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JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote:So how is it done? Now im not talking just that regular strafe, im talking that mongolid on crack uber strafe people do.
i see all suits do it (even heavies).
I have deplated most of my suits in favor of ferros and reps. I hipfire. Ive done the circle, the v and the figure 8. I have used it on scouts, min assault, cal assault and still can't make it happen.
Some may claim its kbm but i actually believe people who say its not true.
So what gives? Help a brother out
Get some really shittty internet with KB/M as well - old land line dsl. you could move to Mexico or Ontario.
live in a college dorm, apartment's wifi, parasite a public hotspot.
and mash WASD like a giant rettarded three fingered mickey mouse. |
Leovarian L Lavitz
NECROM0NGERS
1209
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Posted - 2014.12.29 07:57:00 -
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Timtron Victory wrote:I tried using the flaylock as I needed a Light weapon but the splash range is ridiculous, maybe at level 5 I can change that.
I still think that jumping over explosives is ridiculous though. Thats why grenades that arent cooked are worthless
Mass Drivers don't have that problem.
Good combo is the Mass Driver + SMG on a minmatar assault. The minmatar assault bonuses the SMG, basically turning it into an off-hand light weapon.
This combo is best when there are lots of rabbity scouts around, it will destroy them. That "O ****" expression when they realize that their strafe glitching doesn't help against the weapon designed to kill strafers! Hahahaha >:3
That combo is also good for slaying those pesky strafy minmatar assaults. Very good at killing the shotgun version too.
For general gameplay, however, the Combat rifle + smg combo works **** because BOTH weapons are bonused by the minmatar assault.
The gallente works well with their ion pistol + mass driver, the ion pistol is like a baby tac ar.
The Amarr work fine with their scrs, although the assault scr is scarier for my minsault than the scr.
The caldari get the short stick because their weaponry is all long range, but, the big humongous butt sitting in the room... is that caldari can make good use of the other race's weaponry, and their high shields with fast shield regen makes them very competitive in cover to cover md gameplay + smg.
These combos are mostly just specific for hard countering strafers (specifically strafe glitchers - they give up a ton of hp to pull it off, so basically, they buff the md against them!)
Not too good against heavies, however, the smg is a heavy eater on the minsault, but throw in a remote explosive, and boom, you suddenly have a tool for dealing with pesky heavies. Now you can deal with strafe glitching scouts/ assaults (MD), most assaults (smg + md) and heavies (SMG or RE).
This combo is a very specialized combo, there are areas it will not excel in, so its good to have a second fit with a primary rifle + sidearm (CR + SMG) (AR + SMG) (RR + SMG) Bolt pistol works, but is best on heavy, imo.
Omni-Soldier
Few are my equal in these specialties, none compare in all of them
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JUDASisMYhomeboy
xCosmic Voidx
230
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Posted - 2014.12.29 08:29:00 -
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Kb/m users vehemently deny a strafing advantage. Will a kbm user confirm the mythical uber strafe or am i going to have to test it myself?
"In a world gone mad,only a lunatic is truly insane"
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Leovarian L Lavitz
NECROM0NGERS
1209
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Posted - 2014.12.29 08:39:00 -
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JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote:Kb/m users vehemently deny a strafing advantage. Will a kbm user confirm the mythical uber strafe or am i going to have to test it myself?
I have kb/m, but I use my controller for playing. Super strafe is not noticeable from the vantage point of the user.
Omni-Soldier
Few are my equal in these specialties, none compare in all of them
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
6035
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Posted - 2014.12.29 08:45:00 -
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For a DS3 rotate the movement stick in a rapid circle along the guide or do the stick in a figure 8 pattern to dodge the slower 180 degree direction shift.
It's easier on the DS3 because you benefit from aim assist while shooting which means a KBM user doing the same thing will get peeled open because AA negates a lot of the strafey advantage. Been testing it over the last few days.
When you use a KBM the strafeglitch is more pronounced and obvious. With DS3 AA the strafe glitch is borderline worthless but it can still break hit detection in laggy nightmare matches.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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Leovarian L Lavitz
NECROM0NGERS
1209
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Posted - 2014.12.29 08:48:00 -
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Once again, mass drive them, and their glitch advantage evaporates.
Omni-Soldier
Few are my equal in these specialties, none compare in all of them
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Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property
Negative-Feedback
1848
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Posted - 2014.12.29 08:54:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:You can look at the way they move and tell it's KBM , DS3's just don't work like that .
You can tell by the way I strafe my feet;
I use KBM, cuz I am "leet"!
Sorry, I just had to. Its the first thing that popped into my head when I read that.
The role of Caldari suits is to whine on the forums.
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
597
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Posted - 2014.12.29 08:59:00 -
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KB/M, but I was "making it up" all that time ago right? When I told everyone the advantages of kb/m you guys all believed the kb/m users like morons?!
Now you believe me huh? D*mn fools! You can't just grab any old desktop keyboard! You gotta buy the special priced ones. The ones you can turn up, and those are your super strafers. Deadly mouse hipfire accuracy and movement speed.
For all you lunatics that backed them when we put the question to CCP about modded controllers and kb/m. Enjoy not hitting sh*t!
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
597
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Posted - 2014.12.29 09:01:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:You can look at the way they move and tell it's KBM , DS3's just don't work like that .
Yep
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
597
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Posted - 2014.12.29 09:02:00 -
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JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote:Kb/m users vehemently deny a strafing advantage. Will a kbm user confirm the mythical uber strafe or am i going to have to test it myself?
Yep
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
710
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Posted - 2014.12.29 09:23:00 -
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Its simple the hardcore strafing is done via keyboard. Because you dont loose momentum when swithcing from right strafing to the left and the other way around. Same goes for driving a tank, with keyboard you dont loose momentum when driving corners. You can keep holding down W (forward) and press A (left) and you dont loose speed. While with a thumbstick you will never go at full speed cause you have to move your thumbstick a bit to the left which causes a loss of most of the momentum you had.
basically its like this:
infantry insane strafing= keep tapping A and D to dodge bullets like Neo
Max speed tank turns= Hold down W in combination with A or D
Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
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Flint Beastgood III
Carbon 7
Iron Oxide.
1121
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Posted - 2014.12.29 18:12:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:Same goes for driving a tank, with keyboard you dont loose momentum when driving corners. You can keep holding down W (forward) and press A (left) and you dont loose speed. While with a thumbstick you will never go at full speed cause you have to move your thumbstick a bit to the left which causes a loss of most of the momentum you had.
This is why I was glad when they changed LAV controls for the DS3 to combat that problem like I asked for so long. They should just do it for tanks too.
Skills - https://www.facebook.com/notes/flint-beastgood-iii/list-of-trained-skills/416505058477164
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
6597
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Posted - 2014.12.29 18:16:00 -
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You'll need.
A Keyboard + Mouse + Desire to grow E-P33n + Lack of sense of healthy competition = Uber strafe Leet powers.
I truly, sincerely , from the bottom of my heart, have NO RESPECT for Uber strafers.
Why? Because you are bad. thats all...
Playing as : Calmando, Calscout & Calassault.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
6043
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Posted - 2014.12.29 18:23:00 -
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Flint Beastgood III wrote:Bright Cloud wrote:Same goes for driving a tank, with keyboard you dont loose momentum when driving corners. You can keep holding down W (forward) and press A (left) and you dont loose speed. While with a thumbstick you will never go at full speed cause you have to move your thumbstick a bit to the left which causes a loss of most of the momentum you had. This is why I was glad when they changed LAV controls for the DS3 to combat that problem like I asked for so long. They should just do it for tanks too.
agreed.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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JUDASisMYhomeboy
xCosmic Voidx
230
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Posted - 2014.12.29 18:24:00 -
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The strafe thing has gotten a bit out of hand. How many of us have gotten into a 1v1 where you're both dancing around like its west side f king story and you both reload twice during the engagement. It definitely is not enjoyable and doesn't feel like skill, its just luck at that point.
"In a world gone mad,only a lunatic is truly insane"
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
6598
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Posted - 2014.12.29 18:31:00 -
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JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote:The strafe thing has gotten a bit out of hand. How many of us have gotten into a 1v1 where you're both dancing around like its west side f king story and you both reload twice during the engagement. It definitely is not enjoyable and doesn't feel like skill, its just luck at that point.
ITs not Skill.
A K+M user can just press A and D a lot faster i can move my stupid analog stick from left to right.
Check this out, in 2 seconds:
dadadadadadadadad
See?
Try and move right and left that many times on a freakn DS3 controller.
Playing as : Calmando, Calscout & Calassault.
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JUDASisMYhomeboy
xCosmic Voidx
230
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Posted - 2014.12.29 18:35:00 -
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Why is this issue not brought up more? There's always plenty of qq about modded controllers (equally douchey) so why not the uber strafe? Its practically gamebreaking
"In a world gone mad,only a lunatic is truly insane"
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
6598
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Posted - 2014.12.29 18:37:00 -
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JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote:Why is this issue not brought up more? There's always plenty of qq about modded controllers (equally douchey) so why not the uber strafe? Its practically gamebreaking
Because K+M users will start QQ on how they deserve to be able to play the game too and BLABAL..
You know? PS3 Game is for PS3 Controller. I freakn hate K+M in console games...
THEY SHOULD Implement a DELAY on how fast you can strafe on KEYBOARDS.
if you do this:
dadadadadadadadadadadadad
You get this
ad ad
Playing as : Calmando, Calscout & Calassault.
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DozersMouse XIII
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
895
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Posted - 2014.12.29 18:43:00 -
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turn all your sensitivity's to 100/100
play smarter not harder
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
6598
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Posted - 2014.12.29 18:46:00 -
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DozersMouse XIII wrote:turn all your sensitivity's to 100/100
Still cant. (the only thing it does is helps me miss 100% of my bullets...)
I HAVE USED K&M, you know? No need to try and make us PS Controller users believe we can achieve those strafing speeds too.
I will place a request to include a delay that simulates the strafing direction change speed the controller has.
like SERIOUSLY.
Playing as : Calmando, Calscout & Calassault.
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JUDASisMYhomeboy
xCosmic Voidx
230
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Posted - 2014.12.29 18:51:00 -
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Sensitivity only works on right stick
"In a world gone mad,only a lunatic is truly insane"
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Heimdallr69
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
4071
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Posted - 2014.12.29 18:56:00 -
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Never used a kbm for a console game, wouldn't be as fun.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
6044
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Posted - 2014.12.29 19:27:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:
THEY SHOULD Implement a DELAY on how fast you can strafe on EVERYTHING.
fixed that for you.
Adding inertia in-game fixes both. since there's no movement acceleration/deceleration on dropsuits you go right from zero to max speed instantly.
Inertia, which would force acceleration and deceleration would eliminate the strafe advantage for everyone.
But if you think it's limited to Kb/M you're delusional.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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AndyAndio
0uter.Heaven
115
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Posted - 2014.12.29 19:29:00 -
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The butthurt in this thread is amazing *grabs popcorn* please continue.-
2013 DUST 514's MVP of the Year.-
Retired for Love of the Game
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2787
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Posted - 2014.12.29 19:35:00 -
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There's a lot of misinformation in this thread.
There is little to no difference in strafing speeds between MKB and DS3. We've tested them side-by-side multiple times. If you don't believe me, log in now and send me an invite and I'll show you, too.
What the OP is seeing when he describes "super strafing" occurring even with heavies is most likely simply what happens when someone strafing is combined with low framerate situations -- it knocks off hit detection. It is this exploitation of the engine that makes "super strafing" so powerful -- and it has NOTHING to do with MKB -vs- DS3 (or the Cal Scout hitbox problem that was never really a problem, but similar groupthink). |
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