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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2014.12.25 08:10:00 -
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The grenade slot is obviously needed as it is the only suit that lacks one.
EWAR, a commando is suppose to strike behind enemy lines with devastating fire power. I propose that the Commando receive EWAR that is better than the Assault but not better than the Scout.
The Commando's slow speed and hard to tamper with HP will help to ensure that it does not become a slayer fit.
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Posted - 2014.12.25 08:41:00 -
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If it's not roughly on par with the assault in terms of killing power/overall survivability what's the point again?
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Posted - 2014.12.25 09:22:00 -
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Commandos need some more strafe speed, Assaults (particularly the Minmatar) need a strafe nerf.
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Posted - 2014.12.25 13:04:00 -
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Commandos don't need grenades, however they do need a better ewar than sentinels. I think the solution is to give them a base precision and profile of 50 and an extra slot so that putting a dampener or a precision enhancer doesn't screw your fitting. |
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2014.12.25 13:40:00 -
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:Commandos need some more strafe speed, Assaults (particularly the Minmatar) need a strafe nerf.
So, essentially, now that armor plates give a strafe penalty... Scouts and Minnie Assault are supposed to strafe as fast as all the other assaults and Sentinels/commandos are supposed to.... strafe as fast as the other assaults?
Are we -trying- to make everyone the same?
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Kierkegaard Soren
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Posted - 2014.12.25 18:27:00 -
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Grenades would round out the AV ability but I think I'd take the EWAR and slot buff over anything else these days. It's just needed if you want to survive.
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2014.12.25 18:39:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:Commandos need some more strafe speed, Assaults (particularly the Minmatar) need a strafe nerf. So, essentially, now that armor plates give a strafe penalty... Scouts and Minnie Assault are supposed to strafe as fast as all the other assaults and Sentinels/commandos are supposed to.... strafe as fast as the other assaults? Are we -trying- to make everyone the same? This game needs less strafe not more.
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Posted - 2014.12.25 21:41:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:Commandos need some more strafe speed, Assaults (particularly the Minmatar) need a strafe nerf. So, essentially, now that armor plates give a strafe penalty... Scouts and Minnie Assault are supposed to strafe as fast as all the other assaults and Sentinels/commandos are supposed to.... strafe as fast as the other assaults? Are we -trying- to make everyone the same? This game needs less strafe not more. I think strafing should be inversely proportional to HP.
This becomes a problem for Commandos when dealing with Assaults that can out strafe them yet manage even more HP than they have.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.12.25 22:19:00 -
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Kierkegaard Soren wrote:Grenades would round out the AV ability but I think I'd take the EWAR and slot buff over anything else these days. It's just needed if you want to survive. That's why I say that they need grenades as well , hell this might be the suit that uses two grenades .... now wouldn't that be nice .?. but I can live without the extra slot because that would cause complaints of some form or another and I guess if Commandos had two grenade slots , that would as well but people are quick to complain about anything so it seems , I would rather have the e-war built in instead , somewhat like the scout bonuses .... certain percentage of visual / detection buff and signature decrease .
That would help the suit to stand out somewhat and might just increase their usage but I like the idea of two grenade slots .
Use to want them to have two eq slots but two grenades sound so much better .
That and better stamina and stamina reps along with e-war and grenades .
I AV as well and Commandos not having a grenade slot does somewhat hurt them .
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2014.12.26 00:14:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:Commandos need some more strafe speed, Assaults (particularly the Minmatar) need a strafe nerf. So, essentially, now that armor plates give a strafe penalty... Scouts and Minnie Assault are supposed to strafe as fast as all the other assaults and Sentinels/commandos are supposed to.... strafe as fast as the other assaults? Are we -trying- to make everyone the same? This game needs less strafe not more.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2014.12.26 00:27:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:Commandos need some more strafe speed, Assaults (particularly the Minmatar) need a strafe nerf. So, essentially, now that armor plates give a strafe penalty... Scouts and Minnie Assault are supposed to strafe as fast as all the other assaults and Sentinels/commandos are supposed to.... strafe as fast as the other assaults? Are we -trying- to make everyone the same? This game needs less strafe not more.
By the way, the grand majority of the community actually argued -for- higher strafe speeds after a bug in Uprising 1.3 caused everyone to be able to strafe crazy fast. It was reduced in Uprising 1.4 by 10% (if I'm not mistaken) because the community liked it so much but it was breaking the strafe animation. Proof: http://dust514.wikia.com/wiki/DUST_514_Version_History
So, saying that the game needs less strafe is going against what the majority of the community wanted to begin with. But yanno, cherry picked evidence, so what do I know.
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2014.12.26 00:32:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:Commandos need some more strafe speed, Assaults (particularly the Minmatar) need a strafe nerf. So, essentially, now that armor plates give a strafe penalty... Scouts and Minnie Assault are supposed to strafe as fast as all the other assaults and Sentinels/commandos are supposed to.... strafe as fast as the other assaults? Are we -trying- to make everyone the same? This game needs less strafe not more. By the way, the grand majority of the community actually argued -for- higher strafe speeds after a bug in Uprising 1.3 caused everyone to be able to strafe crazy fast. It was reduced in Uprising 1.4 by 10% (if I'm not mistaken) because the community liked it so much but it was breaking the strafe animation. Proof: http://dust514.wikia.com/wiki/DUST_514_Version_HistorySo, saying that the game needs less strafe is going against what the majority of the community wanted to begin with. But yanno, cherry picked evidence, so what do I know. The game and community of 1.3 is not the game oand community of 1.10.
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Posted - 2014.12.26 00:40:00 -
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No grenade slot please. We "sacrifice" it for the equipment slot. While yes, it would make sense for them to have it(more firepower) I don't feel it is necessary nor what they need as a buff atm. I would gladly take increased stamina, +10% EHP, and +1 slot per tier.
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Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.12.26 01:57:00 -
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I can agree with you somewhat Forever , I can compromise .
You kept that stamina and they DO need that indeed .
Only reasons I said no about the slots is because you know how the community likes to nerf roles and claim things are OP when there not .
One thing that Commandos don't need is a nerf of any sort .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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Meee One
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Posted - 2014.12.26 16:48:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:The grenade slot is obviously needed as it is the only suit that lacks one.
EWAR, a commando is suppose to strike behind enemy lines with devastating fire power. I propose that the Commando receive EWAR that is better than the Assault but not better than the Scout.
The Commando's slow speed and hard to tamper with HP will help to ensure that it does not become a slayer fit. "Commandos need logistics level eWAR,because yaknow in between assault and scout is where they currently are."
No,Commandos are heavies and are supposed to suck at eWAR. However their eWAR should be better than sentinels.
As for the grenade,i'd say yes. HMGs hold thousands of rounds and Commandos description says they sacrifice armor,not weaponry.
I'd say Commandos need: +1 grenade +high stamina +maybe a second equipment (seeing as they sacrifice thousands of rounds)
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2014.12.26 18:21:00 -
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Meee One wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:The grenade slot is obviously needed as it is the only suit that lacks one.
EWAR, a commando is suppose to strike behind enemy lines with devastating fire power. I propose that the Commando receive EWAR that is better than the Assault but not better than the Scout.
The Commando's slow speed and hard to tamper with HP will help to ensure that it does not become a slayer fit. "Commandos need logistics level eWAR,because yaknow in between assault and scout is where they currently are." No,Commandos are heavies and are supposed to suck at eWAR. However their eWAR should be better than sentinels. As for the grenade,i'd say yes. HMGs hold thousands of rounds and Commandos description says they sacrifice armor,not weaponry. I'd say Commandos need: +1 grenade +high stamina +maybe a second equipment (seeing as they sacrifice thousands of rounds) You do know the only reason that commandos are heavies is because they needed a second class for heavies and didn't want to give scouts a third class since scouts are suppose to have pilot suits.
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Posted - 2014.12.26 18:30:00 -
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No, because video game.
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Posted - 2014.12.27 00:18:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Meee One wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:The grenade slot is obviously needed as it is the only suit that lacks one.
EWAR, a commando is suppose to strike behind enemy lines with devastating fire power. I propose that the Commando receive EWAR that is better than the Assault but not better than the Scout.
The Commando's slow speed and hard to tamper with HP will help to ensure that it does not become a slayer fit. "Commandos need logistics level eWAR,because yaknow in between assault and scout is where they currently are." No,Commandos are heavies and are supposed to suck at eWAR. However their eWAR should be better than sentinels. As for the grenade,i'd say yes. HMGs hold thousands of rounds and Commandos description says they sacrifice armor,not weaponry. I'd say Commandos need: +1 grenade +high stamina +maybe a second equipment (seeing as they sacrifice thousands of rounds) You do know the only reason that commandos are heavies is because they needed a second class for heavies and didn't want to give scouts a third class since scouts are suppose to have pilot suits. Then make them mediums with assault base stats but lower slots.
Then i'll agree.
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Posted - 2014.12.27 00:40:00 -
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Commandos seem to be only effective as roof top warriors. Range fighting. Their giant hit box without resistance makes them easy kills around objectives. Their larger amount of HP doesn't seem to help them at all, combined with there lack of mobility.
Would an EWAR buff help them? Probably not. Even if they saw their enemies coming, they still don't have the tools to stand up to assaults, HMGs, and slayer scouts. I really don't see a use for them, they were a bad idea to begin with. Combining an assault and heavy role is something I assumed was thought up by people on drugs.
Keep them at range, and keep them on the rooftops. That's where their role is, and really they are one of the better suits to do it. I would suggest give them better regen. They should have the highest passive armor reps, and shortest shield recharge delay.
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Posted - 2014.12.27 02:26:00 -
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Better regen, largest scan radius and workable precision. Given that they're generally most effective at ranged suppression and are neither particularly mobile nor tankable, it seems fitting that they'd be able to scan more of the battlefield than they currently can to compensate. They're typically little more than fat, blind lumps of shotgun bait at the moment.
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Posted - 2014.12.27 02:39:00 -
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Many have commented that commandos aren't highly mobile. I'll disagree. They are more mobile than Sentinels and in my opinion they will get you where you want to go as long as you use Cardiac Regulators on the Amarr Commando and make sure to use a Kinetic Catalyzer on the Gallente Commando in accordance with armor plates.
EWAR would allow them to increase their awareness and also allow them to get in position for ambushes behind enemy lines.
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Posted - 2014.12.27 05:06:00 -
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At the minimum I feel Commandos need grenades.
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Posted - 2014.12.27 06:42:00 -
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No, you can't justify that much health, weapon versatility, equipment, and radar **** in one package. It would defeat the point in the lack of modules if you hand it to them on silver platter.
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Posted - 2014.12.27 15:55:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:No, you can't justify that much health, weapon versatility, equipment, and radar **** in one package. It would defeat the point in the lack of modules if you hand it to them on silver platter. Giving them better EWAR would barely help them. The Assaults already have farely good base EWAR though still need to give up most of their slots to be formidable. The lack of modules was meant to keep them from having unnecessary augmentations to their health.
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Posted - 2014.12.27 17:20:00 -
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With nade (AV) commando suits would compete for the Ultimate Antivehicle fit. Maybe slightly winning the traditional Forger because of versatility and self-defencecapability. (Probably winning because it can self-hive as well)
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Posted - 2014.12.27 17:22:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:With nade (AV) commando suits would compete for the Ultimate Antivehicle fit. Maybe slightly winning the traditional Forger because of versatility and self-defencecapability. (Probably winning because it can self-hive as well) Forge guns will always be superior because of how devastating they are to long range units and the quickness with which they dispatch their enemies.
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Posted - 2014.12.29 03:12:00 -
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Commando suits need more module slots than Sentinels, but less than Assaults. They don't need Grenades, but I would advocate for a boost to their natural EWAR stats, particularly in scan range (30 or even 40 meters base), and scan precision (35db base) |
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Posted - 2014.12.29 03:14:00 -
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Banjo Robertson wrote:Commando suits need more module slots than Sentinels, but less than Assaults. They don't need Grenades, but I would advocate for a boost to their natural EWAR stats, particularly in scan range (30 or even 40 meters base), and scan precision (35db base) More modules means more health and the Commando doesn't need that. It needs to fulfill a more tactical role. That is what adding EWAR will achieve.
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Posted - 2014.12.29 03:16:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Banjo Robertson wrote:Commando suits need more module slots than Sentinels, but less than Assaults. They don't need Grenades, but I would advocate for a boost to their natural EWAR stats, particularly in scan range (30 or even 40 meters base), and scan precision (35db base) More modules means more health and the Commando doesn't need that. It needs to fulfill a more tactical role. That is what adding EWAR will achieve.
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Posted - 2014.12.29 03:45:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:Commandos need some more strafe speed, Assaults (particularly the Minmatar) need a strafe nerf. So, essentially, now that armor plates give a strafe penalty... Scouts and Minnie Assault are supposed to strafe as fast as all the other assaults and Sentinels/commandos are supposed to.... strafe as fast as the other assaults? Are we -trying- to make everyone the same? It's cuz most people tank the min ass which people don't realize actually ruins the suit. For my playstyle anyways
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Posted - 2014.12.29 03:57:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:Commandos need some more strafe speed, Assaults (particularly the Minmatar) need a strafe nerf. So, essentially, now that armor plates give a strafe penalty... Scouts and Minnie Assault are supposed to strafe as fast as all the other assaults and Sentinels/commandos are supposed to.... strafe as fast as the other assaults? Are we -trying- to make everyone the same? It's cuz most people tank the min ass which people don't realize actually ruins the suit. For my playstyle anyways
Agree'd. I like to sit around 700 EHP with all my assault suits.
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Posted - 2014.12.29 04:00:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:Commandos need some more strafe speed, Assaults (particularly the Minmatar) need a strafe nerf. So, essentially, now that armor plates give a strafe penalty... Scouts and Minnie Assault are supposed to strafe as fast as all the other assaults and Sentinels/commandos are supposed to.... strafe as fast as the other assaults? Are we -trying- to make everyone the same? It's cuz most people tank the min ass which people don't realize actually ruins the suit. For my playstyle anyways Agree'd. I like to sit around 700 EHP with all my assault suits. Even my Amarr only has 559 armor lol
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Posted - 2014.12.29 04:34:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:Commandos need some more strafe speed, Assaults (particularly the Minmatar) need a strafe nerf. So, essentially, now that armor plates give a strafe penalty... Scouts and Minnie Assault are supposed to strafe as fast as all the other assaults and Sentinels/commandos are supposed to.... strafe as fast as the other assaults? Are we -trying- to make everyone the same? It's cuz most people tank the min ass which people don't realize actually ruins the suit. For my playstyle anyways Agree'd. I like to sit around 700 EHP with all my assault suits. I get 700+ on my Minmatar Assault with Complex Shield extenders and Ferroscale.
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Posted - 2014.12.31 04:44:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:Commandos need some more strafe speed, Assaults (particularly the Minmatar) need a strafe nerf. So, essentially, now that armor plates give a strafe penalty... Scouts and Minnie Assault are supposed to strafe as fast as all the other assaults and Sentinels/commandos are supposed to.... strafe as fast as the other assaults? Are we -trying- to make everyone the same? It's cuz most people tank the min ass which people don't realize actually ruins the suit. For my playstyle anyways Agree'd. I like to sit around 700 EHP with all my assault suits. Even my Amarr only has 559 armor lol My Amarr Assault with dampeners has less than that.
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Posted - 2014.12.31 06:36:00 -
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Here's a thought.
Suppose we switch the slot layout of scouts and commandos? Just tossing ideas around.
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Posted - 2014.12.31 11:03:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Here's a thought.
Suppose we switch the slot layout of scouts and commandos? Just tossing ideas around. No, that would mean the ability to get more health for commandos and less for scouts. Neither of those things should happen.
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Posted - 2014.12.31 11:35:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Here's a thought.
Suppose we switch the slot layout of scouts and commandos? Just tossing ideas around. No, that would mean the ability to get more health for commandos and less for scouts. Neither of those things should happen. Part of the problem with commandos is that they have ptitful health along with a heavies' hotbox. Add in slow speed, and they are quite easy to take out. The problem with scouts has been how they can stack health and still strafe insanely well, and have cloaks besides. My suggestion fixes both of these.
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Posted - 2014.12.31 11:38:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Here's a thought.
Suppose we switch the slot layout of scouts and commandos? Just tossing ideas around. No, that would mean the ability to get more health for commandos and less for scouts. Neither of those things should happen. Part of the problem with commandos is that they have ptitful health along with a heavies' hotbox. Add in slow speed, and they are quite easy to take out. The problem with scouts has been how they can stack health and still strafe insanely well, and have cloaks besides. My suggestion fixes both of these. It would lead to a severe imbalance between both.
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Posted - 2014.12.31 11:53:00 -
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Care to explain why?
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Posted - 2014.12.31 18:05:00 -
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The commando role is more of a variable threat response, not a behind enemy lines fighter. Its a supporting assault. Been commando since day one of amarr, the thing they need the most, is an slot increase, high/low depending on race, a turn speed increase, not movement speed. And a nade slot but maybe not. Maybe a slight regen buff, but not much. These are the most under utilized suits, but i believe a few MINOR adjustments could really make them a force to be reckoned with.
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Posted - 2014.12.31 18:11:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Banjo Robertson wrote:Commando suits need more module slots than Sentinels, but less than Assaults. They don't need Grenades, but I would advocate for a boost to their natural EWAR stats, particularly in scan range (30 or even 40 meters base), and scan precision (35db base) More modules means more health and the Commando doesn't need that. It needs to fulfill a more tactical role. That is what adding EWAR will achieve. More mods doesnt mean more health, i have 20 commando fits of all 4 races, only maybe 6 of which are tank fits, i use ewar, damage, regen fits. Can be a great suit, if it just had a few tweaks to bring it up to par imo
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Posted - 2015.01.01 05:34:00 -
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Is this a serious request or troll thread? |
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Ydubbs81 wrote:Is this a serious request or troll thread? It is as true as the freedom the Federation stands for.
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Posted - 2015.01.01 09:40:00 -
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The Commando needs a BPO! other than that maybe one slot or a higher base scan range not both |
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Posted - 2015.01.01 11:37:00 -
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I feel that the Commando is in desperate need of a shield regen buff, but that could just be because I run Caldari........
Honestly though, the Commando has the best armour regen, so why are we stuck with the short end of the stick when it comes to shield regen?
A weapon switch speed buff is also something that would be nice to see. As a Commando switching between my primary weapon and my secondary weapon is something I do constantly, and on many occasions the delay that occurs while switching weapons has gotten me killed.
I don't think the Commando needs a grenade, but if we get one I won't complain.
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Posted - 2015.01.01 15:53:00 -
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Iria Gren wrote:The Commando needs a BPO! other than that maybe one slot or a higher base scan range not both No more high or low slots. Just a grenade slot (with matching CPU and PG) and overall EWAR buff.
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Posted - 2015.01.01 23:13:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Iria Gren wrote:The Commando needs a BPO! other than that maybe one slot or a higher base scan range not both No more high or low slots. Just a grenade slot (with matching CPU and PG) and overall EWAR buff.
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Posted - 2015.01.02 01:18:00 -
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Give them lots of EWAR to be Scout Hunters. Scouts need a counter
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Posted - 2015.01.02 07:51:00 -
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commandos are a competitive fit for competitive matches. I'm surprised that commandos + logies and a few scouts aren't the only fits used in pc.
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