DUST Search - The Grand Reason Caldari and Amarr FW are bad

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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:

Believe it or not squad synchronization is not the root cause of it. It is merely a symptom that exacerbates (everyone with a dirty mind re read that word) the losses of the Caldari and Amarr fractions.

The real reason is play style.

Both the Amarr and Caldari rely on long distance warfare yet they always fight in Skirmish which demands people play in CQC to take null cannons. Their adversaries have extremely effective weapons for CQC.

This is an issue because at the start of battle players tend to engage the other team in close quarters combat to take the neutral points, the Gallente and Minmatar have the technological advantage in this regard. The Amarr and Caldari only have a clear advantage while defending null cannons by keeping their enemies at bay. This means that the Caldari and Amarr have to take the initial neutral cannons or fight an uphill battle the rest of the match.

This is the real reason that both these fractions perform significantly worse than their contemporaries. Their playstyles give them a clear disadvantage in Skirmish against opponents whose playstyles complement Skirmish.

Let's remember that most players are equal in skill so to say that one faction is superior to another in terms of player base is incorrect. Only an extreme disadvantage such as the one I expressed could possibly swing the pendulum in such an imbalanced way.

Additional Commentary

People may not always run their race's gear, though enough people run it that the imbalance of play styles still stands. In actuality players who gain significant LP for their race will tend to use the gear presented to them while players who struggle and tend to be on the loosing side will not feel any reason to skill into gear for a faction where they are always at a disadvantage against players who do use their racial gear because it does function in Skirmish.

This culminates into better players going to the winning side and increasing the disparity while only a few die hard players who have the resources and connections to synchronize remain.

This is a classic case of the domino effect where one thing just causes something else and simply increases the imbalance.

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DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 6539	Posted - 2014.12.24 03:55:00 - [1] - Quote Believe it or not squad synchronization is not the root cause of it. It is merely a symptom that exacerbates (everyone with a dirty mind re read that word) the losses of the Caldari and Amarr fractions. The real reason is play style. Both the Amarr and Caldari rely on long distance warfare yet they always fight in Skirmish which demands people play in CQC to take null cannons. Their adversaries have extremely effective weapons for CQC. This is an issue because at the start of battle players tend to engage the other team in close quarters combat to take the neutral points, the Gallente and Minmatar have the technological advantage in this regard. The Amarr and Caldari only have a clear advantage while defending null cannons by keeping their enemies at bay. This means that the Caldari and Amarr have to take the initial neutral cannons or fight an uphill battle the rest of the match. This is the real reason that both these fractions perform significantly worse than their contemporaries. Their playstyles give them a clear disadvantage in Skirmish against opponents whose playstyles complement Skirmish. Let's remember that most players are equal in skill so to say that one faction is superior to another in terms of player base is incorrect. Only an extreme disadvantage such as the one I expressed could possibly swing the pendulum in such an imbalanced way. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 1176	Posted - 2014.12.24 03:58:00 - [2] - Quote This would make sense IF ONLY people were loyal gear wise. Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Indy Strizer Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 214	Posted - 2014.12.24 04:04:00 - [3] - Quote Nope.
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 5231	Posted - 2014.12.24 04:26:00 - [4] - Quote Out of the 3 weapons that are Amarrian, only one is long range (Laser Rifle) and while you may say that the Scrambler Rifle is long range, it works better in close-mid ranges. The only Scrambler Pistol that is decent in long ranges is the Breach.
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 5231	Posted - 2014.12.24 04:27:00 - [5] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: This would make sense IF ONLY people were loyal gear wise. The Amount of Caldari Assaults with Assault Combat Rifles is too damn high. The amount of Caldari suits in total is pretty average.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 4971	Posted - 2014.12.24 04:35:00 - [6] - Quote The alphabet is the enemy! Randoms and newbs who dont choose a single race get placed alphabetically, particularly since so many que up for Gallente and Minmatar at baseline. (The godfather of tactical logistics)
Bone Doc Commando Perkone Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.12.24 04:56:00 - [7] - Quote The actual reason is "choice" and the only thing I can think of is how many corps/small groups are more min/gal than amarr/cal that can pull more victories over a small length of time against randomly put together teams scrambling to work together.
Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles. 2444	Posted - 2014.12.24 04:58:00 - [8] - Quote Just rolled on the slaves. Like 7 times consecutive. There are the chosen few. The templars Calvary is selective. "The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire." Book of Exiles 1:3
CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 380	Posted - 2014.12.24 05:10:00 - [9] - Quote DeadlyAztec, your theory does hold some water, and actually jives well with two other noteworthy threads I read this month. One was making the point that players are so used to playing pre-fitted roles/gear from other games, they really don't perceive the advantage of combining a racial suit with the weaponry that agrees with THAT race's approach to combat (as example, if the race that made your suit believes in extra EHP protection for short-range fights, it doesn't help you to carry meduim/long range weaponry on that dropsuit,... the weapons take longer to kill your enemy up close, and leave your enemy with all the time she needs to wear down your extra EHP protection). The other thread made a good argument that too many players rush to close the distance toward their enemies, because they've brought the close-up, quick-n-savage kill guns (shotgun, Mass-Driver, etc.), and they LOVE the hallway and room shootouts,... but they insist on wearing the Cald and Minmat suits that, by racial-design, can't endure the punishment of sustained close-up hosing by an opponent. Don't get me wrong,... I still see more juvenile nose-picking behavior from players in Caldari matches than any other race from FW, and I'm sure the deliberate "err, he-he, I only joined this Cald FW match to see if,... he-he, I can get WP for shooting my own nanohive, umm, I wanna try" behavior contributes to about 40 % of your losses in those matches. But, yes I'm willing to accept your argument that Race-attitude in the design of your gear is not being thought about strategically enough when players slap their fitting together and run so eagerly into "the exciting close-range shootout" for the umteenth time. Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne... No story can have life without writers and publishers.
Assert Dominance III 0bamacare 13	Posted - 2014.12.24 05:17:00 - [10] - Quote ever considered the majority of people that play amarr and cal FW suck at the game? we havent lost a single cal FW q syncing squads. banned DMG is trash

DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 6543	Posted - 2014.12.24 05:21:00 - [11] - Quote Assert Dominance III wrote: ever considered the majority of people that play amarr and cal FW suck at the game? we havent lost a single cal FW q syncing squads. I did consider it in the original post and the fact stands that there is no reason that one faction would inherently have better players than another. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1668	Posted - 2014.12.24 05:31:00 - [12] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Both the Amarr and Caldari rely on long distance warfare the ScR is beast close range...
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 6543	Posted - 2014.12.24 05:38:00 - [13] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Both the Amarr and Caldari rely on long distance warfare the ScR is beast close range... Not as much as an ACR on a Minmatar Assault. That's where the imbalance lies in FW. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Vicious Minotaur 1559	Posted - 2014.12.24 06:00:00 - [14] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Jack McReady wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Both the Amarr and Caldari rely on long distance warfare the ScR is beast close range... Not as much as an ACR on a Minmatar Assault. That's where the imbalance lies in FW. Okay. So nerf the ACR and Minmatar Assault, and... BOOM!... FW is balanced. No more stomps. Even fights, all round. Easy peasy. I am a minotaur. a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça+üa+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ë
Union118 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 123	Posted - 2014.12.24 06:07:00 - [15] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Believe it or not squad synchronization is not the root cause of it. It is merely a symptom that exacerbates (everyone with a dirty mind re read that word) the losses of the Caldari and Amarr fractions. The real reason is play style. Both the Amarr and Caldari rely on long distance warfare yet they always fight in Skirmish which demands people play in CQC to take null cannons. Their adversaries have extremely effective weapons for CQC. This is an issue because at the start of battle players tend to engage the other team in close quarters combat to take the neutral points, the Gallente and Minmatar have the technological advantage in this regard. The Amarr and Caldari only have a clear advantage while defending null cannons by keeping their enemies at bay. This means that the Caldari and Amarr have to take the initial neutral cannons or fight an uphill battle the rest of the match. This is the real reason that both these fractions perform significantly worse than their contemporaries. Their playstyles give them a clear disadvantage in Skirmish against opponents whose playstyles complement Skirmish. Let's remember that most players are equal in skill so to say that one faction is superior to another in terms of player base is incorrect. Only an extreme disadvantage such as the one I expressed could possibly swing the pendulum in such an imbalanced way. Additional Commentary People may not always run their race's gear, though enough people run it that the imbalance of play styles still stands. In actuality players who gain significant LP for their race will tend to use the gear presented to them while players who struggle and tend to be on the loosing side will not feel any reason to skill into gear for a faction where they are always at a disadvantage against players who do use their racial gear because it does function in Skirmish. This culminates into better players going to the winning side and increasing the disparity while only a few die hard players who have the resources and connections to synchronize remain. This is a classic case of the domino effect where one thing just causes something else and simply increases the imbalance. I swear I read it 5 times and it said master bates lol jk. On a more real note I agree. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 6544	Posted - 2014.12.24 06:10:00 - [16] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Jack McReady wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Both the Amarr and Caldari rely on long distance warfare the ScR is beast close range... Not as much as an ACR on a Minmatar Assault. That's where the imbalance lies in FW. Okay. So nerf the ACR and Minmatar Assault, and... BOOM!... FW is balanced. No more stomps. Even fights, all round. Easy peasy. Right... Let's disregard the fact that the Minmatar have the CR, SMG, Flaylock, HMG and Flaylock all of which are just as devastating as the Scrambler Rifle while requiring less skill and less aiming to be just as effective. Let us also disregard the fact that all Minmatar suits are naturally faster than their Amarr counterparts. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
knight guard fury Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 1156	Posted - 2014.12.24 06:15:00 - [17] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Jack McReady wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Both the Amarr and Caldari rely on long distance warfare the ScR is beast close range... Not as much as an ACR on a Minmatar Assault. That's where the imbalance lies in FW. You do realize that an ScR can tear just as much as.s as an CR, quite possibly more in the given situation. Any minmatar can in a 1v1 with an amarr is almost entire a "who can apply dps better until someone dies", I can't tell you how many fights I've had against a ScR user that we are literally spaying bullets and lasers around each other just to see who has the better aim and dps. And why is the OP claiming they are long range? They are incredibly good at close to mid ranges and only the LR is long range. Edit: the ScR is a high alpha weapon so it does a large amount of Dmg per shot, but the CR is a fast paced armor piercing burst gun that does large amounts of dps in short periods of time. SP earned perday/week
sir RAVEN WING Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 2099	Posted - 2014.12.24 06:17:00 - [18] - Quote I came here to say 'Yes because when 90% of battles are fought by Academy players, we lose because of racial disadvantage.' But I honestly thinks this points something out. I honestly think we need more long range maps (As I have for about a year now.) EIther that or a new FW mode that favours both close and long range. There is also a huge myth that so many believe to be true; That the Caldari can never win, never. Also some weapons like the Combat Rifle over preform. (Trust me. I have boundless and Six Kin. Both shread armour as they are supposed to, but they work just as good against shields.) Then we have the those who saw the trailers for each race/Read each race and heard 'democracy' and went to fight for them, (About 1%. Sadly a large portion of the community has no knowledge of the simplest of lore. about 0.1% Know most of it.) Finally, the FotM chasers and those who want high WLR. They hear the Gallente are winning or have better/OP gear and they hop on over. "Raven's damn good with those knives." - Maleki If I didn't want you to see me, I would've brought a cloak.
Vicious Minotaur 1559	Posted - 2014.12.24 06:19:00 - [19] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Vicious Minotaur wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Jack McReady wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Both the Amarr and Caldari rely on long distance warfare the ScR is beast close range... Not as much as an ACR on a Minmatar Assault. That's where the imbalance lies in FW. Okay. So nerf the ACR and Minmatar Assault, and... BOOM!... FW is balanced. No more stomps. Even fights, all round. Easy peasy. Right... Let's disregard the fact that the Minmatar have the CR, SMG, Flaylock, HMG and Flaylock all of which are just as devastating as the Scrambler Rifle while requiring less skill and less aiming to be just as effective. Let us also disregard the fact that all Minmatar suits are naturally faster than their Amarr counterparts. I see you disregarded semantics. Pity. FW. You stated the imbalance with Faction War (the entity) lies with the ACR fitted on the Minmatar Assault... I disagree with that assertion. I have no issue with facing Minmatar gear while running in Caldari FW. Let's disregard words, sentence construction and everything else that creates meaning. I am a minotaur. a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça+üa+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ë
knight guard fury Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 1156	Posted - 2014.12.24 06:24:00 - [20] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Vicious Minotaur wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Jack McReady wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Both the Amarr and Caldari rely on long distance warfare the ScR is beast close range... Not as much as an ACR on a Minmatar Assault. That's where the imbalance lies in FW. Okay. So nerf the ACR and Minmatar Assault, and... BOOM!... FW is balanced. No more stomps. Even fights, all round. Easy peasy. Right... Let's disregard the fact that the Minmatar have the CR, SMG, Flaylock, HMG and Flaylock all of which are just as devastating as the Scrambler Rifle while requiring less skill and less aiming to be just as effective. Let us also disregard the fact that all Minmatar suits are naturally faster than their Amarr counterparts. I see you disregarded semantics. Pity. FW. You stated the imbalance with Faction War (the entity) lies with the ACR fitted on the Minmatar Assault... I disagree with that assertion. I have no issue with facing Minmatar gear while running in Caldari FW. Let's disregard words, sentence construction and everything else that creates meaning. -----------------------------------/-///------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Even if the ScR requires better aim, it is just as rewarding due to the fact that each shot has a high alpha SP earned perday/week

DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 6545	Posted - 2014.12.24 06:29:00 - [21] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: I see you disregarded semantics. Pity. FW. You stated the imbalance with Faction War (the entity) lies with the ACR fitted on the Minmatar Assault... I disagree with that assertion. I have no issue with facing Minmatar gear while running in Caldari FW. Let's disregard words, sentence construction and everything else that creates meaning. Thank you for the constrictive post. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
knight guard fury Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 1156	Posted - 2014.12.24 06:32:00 - [22] - Quote And on another note, yes us minmatar are very fast but we are also a lot weaker than amarr, who are made to tank and withstand a fight, but both of our weapons are primarily made to just and designed to tear each other apart, whether your charge shorting everybody or you're killing people with speed and aggression either way both races are very powerful. And everybody should really read their lore every once in a while. SP earned perday/week
Vicious Minotaur 1559	Posted - 2014.12.24 06:40:00 - [23] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Vicious Minotaur wrote: Lots of important stuff dealing with language and its meaning. Thank you for the constrictive post. You are welcome. Semantics are especially important when conversing via text. Getting ones meaning across is essential to avoiding misunderstandings on a culturally diverse, internationally accessible forum. Language is the most important thing to human culture, and the most powerful thing on this planet. Speak and type like you mean it. Thank you. I am a minotaur. a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça+üa+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ë
GLOBAL fils'de RAGE Consolidated Dust 110	Posted - 2014.12.24 06:41:00 - [24] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Assert Dominance III wrote: ever considered the majority of people that play amarr and cal FW suck at the game? we havent lost a single cal FW q syncing squads. I did consider it in the original post and the fact stands that there is no reason that one faction would inherently have better players than another. Caldari gear sucks. Both you and Checkmate have realised that you have to be a perimeter player or a lone wolf to want caldari gear. Squad orders: Everyone into the PIT, except for you caldari man, you go way over there by yourself and use that POS RR, oh and don't get sniped, look out for tanks and LAV heavies, and MCC spawn when the cloked scout gets you. If Caldari had any gear worth the effort players would FW, but they don't.
CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 380	Posted - 2014.12.24 06:52:00 - [25] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: I came here to say 'Yes because when 90% of battles are fought by Academy players, we lose because of racial disadvantage.' But I honestly thinks this points something out. I honestly think we need more long range maps (As I have for about a year now.) EIther that or a new FW mode that favours both close and long range. There is also a huge myth that so many believe to be true; That the Caldari can never win, never. Also some weapons like the Combat Rifle over preform. (Trust me. I have boundless and Six Kin. Both shread armour as they are supposed to, but they work just as good against shields.) Then we have the those who saw the trailers for each race/Read each race and heard 'democracy' and went to fight for them, (About 1%. Sadly a large portion of the community has no knowledge of the simplest of lore. I think it was one of your threads I read, sir RAVEN. Again, you are quite right, I think. "Lore" for many of the PS3 players is probably considered just an corny CHORE, that only the drama-queens and graphic novel/ anime fans can take the time to get into. (Hey, who wants to read a whole BS encyclopedia full of made up character story jazz---we got on this game to face-shoot, not do all this boring reading, like homework!!). But in EVE, the Lore is a strategic-mechanic in the game. It explains the inherant weaknesses and flaws in all the ships' racial designs, and it's (partly) a factor in what ships and modules those players go after, and how they decide to use them in an engagement. Whether you like reading or not, all that "reading chores" clues you in on racial-tech (and racial design-biases) that we ought to be using strategically in our dropsuit fittings and our engagements----just like the EVE players appear to do. Imagine how cool it would be, if we ever got smart enough to beat the other team by having half of us in Shield-bias suits tearing the approaching reds with our long-range guns, and then mopping them up with a close-quarters sweep performed by the half of us who are wearing armour-bias suits and carrying short-range weapons. Red clone-reserve depletion would occur in nearly every match. Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne... No story can have life without writers and publishers.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16252	Posted - 2014.12.24 07:07:00 - [26] - Quote Never understood why people said Amarr FW was bad. No FW group is bad. It's the same with other players as when I play. The very rare occasion I do actually enter FW the Imperial Guard always win..... when I have done Cal FW we've almost always won. Dust FW being what it is who gives a flying ***. EVE FW is where the war happens. EVE FW is all that matters. Dust FW is an extension of mindless public matches and a safe haven for farming sods who couldn't care less about loyalty. "He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
sir RAVEN WING Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 2102	Posted - 2014.12.24 07:12:00 - [27] - Quote True Adamance wrote: EVE FW is where the war happens. EVE FW is all that matters. See why I am trying to move to EVE? "Raven's damn good with those knives." - Maleki If I didn't want you to see me, I would've brought a cloak.
Jack the Rlpper Extreme Vengance 22	Posted - 2014.12.24 07:23:00 - [28] - Quote I myself have always been interested in the lore and would love a link to were i may read up on all 4 races lore so that i maybe can choose a race i like and finally get my career going.
sir RAVEN WING Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 2104	Posted - 2014.12.24 08:17:00 - [29] - Quote Jack the Rlpper wrote: I myself have always been interested in the lore and would love a link to were i may read up on all 4 races lore so that i maybe can choose a race i like and finally get my career going. Amarr: The Amarr people inhabit a vast Empire, the largest and oldest of the four empires. Ruled by a mighty Empress, this vast theocratic society is supported by a broad foundation of Minmatar slave labor. Amarr citizens tend to be highly educated and fervent individuals, and as a culture adhere to the basic tenet that what others call slavery is in fact one step on a spiritual path toward fully embracing their faith. As a result, the Empire remains the most stable and militarily powerful nation-state in New Eden, despite several setbacks in recent history Caldari: Founded on the tenets of patriotism and hard work that carried its ancestors through hardships on an inhospitable homeworld, the Caldari State is today a corporate dictatorship led by rulers who are determined to see it return to the meritocratic ideals of old, and buttressed by mega-corporations who try their hardest to divide the State between them. Ruthless and efficient in the boardroom as well as on the battlefield, the Caldari are living emblems of strength, persistence, and dignity. Gallente: Champions of liberty and fierce guardians of the human spirit, the Gallente Federation is the only true democracy in New Eden. Some of the most progressive leaders, scientists, and businessmen of the era have emerged from its diverse peoples. Pioneers of artificial intelligence, the Federation once relied almost entirely on drone fleets to defend its beliefs and borders. But the limitations of this technology and the lack of a human elementGÇöboth in terms of a military strategy, and as a means of spreading influenceGÇöeventually reached a critical point. Today, Gallente starships are manned by some of the bravest men and women of New Eden. Minmatar: [url]https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Minmatar]Of the four major races of New Eden, none has endured more turmoil than the Minmatar. Once a thriving tribal civilization, the Minmatar were enslaved by the Amarr Empire for more than 700 years until a massive rebellion freed most, but not all, of those held in servitude. Modeling their recovery after the Gallente Federation's success, the Minmatar Republic was born. But despite rising to prominence on the world stage, more than one third of the present-day population remains enslaved. The Minmatar people today are resilient, ingenious, and hard-working. Many of them believe that democracy, though serving them well at first, will never restore what was taken from them so long ago. Instead, they long for a government truly reflective of their tribal culture, and remain deeply attached to their enslaved kindred. They will forever resent the Amarr, and yearn for the days before slaver ships ever reached their home skies. [/url] "Raven's damn good with those knives." - Maleki If I didn't want you to see me, I would've brought a cloak.
Avinash Decker Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 162	Posted - 2014.12.24 09:43:00 - [30] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: This would make sense IF ONLY people were loyal gear wise. I think this might be true, unless there is concert evidence that when people play a faction they use that faction's gear.



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