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Powerh8er The Rainbow Effect 616	Posted - 2014.12.23 21:11:00 - [1] - Quote This game has no effect regarding real life physics, we have a HMG that only does danage in close quarters like a flametrhower or shotgun and the rest of the weapons acting accordingley. No this is bullshit. I want to be a machinegunner not a scrubby suicidal trench sweeper.
Robocop Junior research lab 1047	Posted - 2014.12.23 21:14:00 - [2] - Quote My unborn child can spell better. If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 613	Posted - 2014.12.23 21:16:00 - [3] - Quote Close quarters is not 30 meters. I.E. the Hmg is a mid-range weapon not to mention it's OP as sh*t. GimmeDatSuhWeet isk
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4094	Posted - 2014.12.23 21:23:00 - [4] - Quote We're also running around in Iron Man suits with guns that shoot plasma and lasers. Oh I'm sorry, what were you saying about realism? "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net
Robocop Junior research lab 1047	Posted - 2014.12.23 21:23:00 - [5] - Quote I am dropping 30-40 kill games constantly with this set up.... G-1 sentinel complex damage mod adv hmg magsec flux complex cardiac complex rep 9/10 games no logi running solo If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
Powerh8er The Rainbow Effect 616	Posted - 2014.12.23 21:24:00 - [6] - Quote gustavo acosta wrote: Close quarters is not 30 meters. I.E. the Hmg is a mid-range weapon not to mention it's OP as sh*t. Ehh every weapon it this game melt people at any distance, except HMG wich only melts people close range. All im asking is that HMG behave like RL HMG.: very good against long range infantry targets and close range light armor vehicles.
gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 613	Posted - 2014.12.23 21:29:00 - [7] - Quote Powerh8er wrote: gustavo acosta wrote: Close quarters is not 30 meters. I.E. the Hmg is a mid-range weapon not to mention it's OP as sh*t. Ehh every weapon it this game melt people at any distance, except HMG wich only melts people close range. All im asking is that HMG behave like RL HMG.: very good against long range infantry targets and close range light armor vehicles. 30 meters is not close range by any means. The shotgun is close range, HMG has too much range for the DPS it's shoving up peoples' rectums. GimmeDatSuhWeet isk
Jesus Chrysler D3ATH CARD RUST415 14	Posted - 2014.12.23 21:29:00 - [8] - Quote Powerh8er wrote: gustavo acosta wrote: Close quarters is not 30 meters. I.E. the Hmg is a mid-range weapon not to mention it's OP as sh*t. Ehh every weapon it this game melt people at any distance, except HMG wich only melts people close range. All im asking is that HMG behave like RL HMG.: very good against long range infantry targets and close range light armor vehicles. Were you there when the burst HMG was OP.. Assault ak.0, Assault ck.0, Assault gk.0, Assault mk.0 & Incubus Ion Pistol Expert
Robocop Junior research lab 1047	Posted - 2014.12.23 21:29:00 - [9] - Quote lol wow, done with this thread, good luck. If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
Powerh8er The Rainbow Effect 616	Posted - 2014.12.23 21:30:00 - [10] - Quote Clearly the community doesnt want a fully operational mg on the field. Because reasons.

Powerh8er The Rainbow Effect 616	Posted - 2014.12.23 21:31:00 - [11] - Quote Jesus Chrysler wrote: Powerh8er wrote: gustavo acosta wrote: Close quarters is not 30 meters. I.E. the Hmg is a mid-range weapon not to mention it's OP as sh*t. Ehh every weapon it this game melt people at any distance, except HMG wich only melts people close range. All im asking is that HMG behave like RL HMG.: very good against long range infantry targets and close range light armor vehicles. Were you there when the burst HMG was OP.. In prison, next question please.
Cavani1EE7 Murphys-Law 679	Posted - 2014.12.23 21:31:00 - [12] - Quote Power are you on drugs man? 10100111001 Shield tanking is hard mode /period.
Powerh8er The Rainbow Effect 616	Posted - 2014.12.23 21:39:00 - [13] - Quote Cavani1EE7 wrote: Power are you on drugs man? No, i dont like drugs, but it would be nice to have the HMg act like something between a an assault rifle and a sniper rifle as in real life. imagine mobile HMG nest with heavies and logies that only could been taken care with similar firepower , joint effort or orbitals. I could be gloroius. It would add an whole new tactical perspective to the fight ecxept just spamming heavies everywhere with eachh 1000 bullets each in their HMG.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3261	Posted - 2014.12.23 21:44:00 - [14] - Quote Powerh8er wrote: Clearly the community doesnt want a fully operational mg on the field. Because reasons. You mean giving the HMG the range of a Rail Rifle..? Good luck trying to get that to EVER happen. "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3261	Posted - 2014.12.23 21:44:00 - [15] - Quote Powerh8er wrote: Cavani1EE7 wrote: Power are you on drugs man? No, i dont like drugs, but it would be nice to have the HMg act like something between a an assault rifle and a sniper rifle as in real life. imagine mobile HMG nest with heavies and logies that only could been taken care with similar firepower , joint effort or orbitals. I could be gloroius. It would add an whole new tactical perspective to the fight ecxept just spamming heavies everywhere with eachh 1000 bullets each in their HMG. So the new tactical perspective would be to spam more heavies..? "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4099	Posted - 2014.12.23 21:45:00 - [16] - Quote Powerh8er wrote: Cavani1EE7 wrote: Power are you on drugs man? No, i dont like drugs, but it would be nice to have the HMg act like something between a an assault rifle and a sniper rifle as in real life. imagine mobile HMG nest with heavies and logies that only could been taken care with similar firepower , joint effort or orbitals. I could be gloroius. It would add an whole new tactical perspective to the fight ecxept just spamming heavies everywhere with eachh 1000 bullets each in their HMG. How would increasing the HMG's range stop people from spamming heavies everywhere? "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net
Powerh8er The Rainbow Effect 616	Posted - 2014.12.23 22:10:00 - [17] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Powerh8er wrote: Cavani1EE7 wrote: Power are you on drugs man? No, i dont like drugs, but it would be nice to have the HMg act like something between a an assault rifle and a sniper rifle as in real life. imagine mobile HMG nest with heavies and logies that only could been taken care with similar firepower , joint effort or orbitals. I could be gloroius. It would add an whole new tactical perspective to the fight ecxept just spamming heavies everywhere with eachh 1000 bullets each in their HMG. How would increasing the HMG's range stop people from spamming heavies everywhere? Being very accurate and depent on his logi in cqc, as a real machinegunner?
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 4861	Posted - 2014.12.23 22:13:00 - [18] - Quote 2/100 (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4102	Posted - 2014.12.23 22:15:00 - [19] - Quote Powerh8er wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Powerh8er wrote: Cavani1EE7 wrote: Power are you on drugs man? No, i dont like drugs, but it would be nice to have the HMg act like something between a an assault rifle and a sniper rifle as in real life. imagine mobile HMG nest with heavies and logies that only could been taken care with similar firepower , joint effort or orbitals. I could be gloroius. It would add an whole new tactical perspective to the fight ecxept just spamming heavies everywhere with eachh 1000 bullets each in their HMG. How would increasing the HMG's range stop people from spamming heavies everywhere? Being very accurate and depent on his logi in cqc, as a real machinegunner? Accurate like a Combat Rifle? Because those are accurate, but still work at close and long range. I don't see how this will stop heavy spam. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net
Sergeant Sazu Nanite Systems 250	Posted - 2014.12.23 22:16:00 - [20] - Quote I found the problem. This guy thinks Dust should emulate real life. Staggering news: This is a game. We need balance, and you just want to be OP. End result: 7.8/10 too much water [36.3m SP - Next skill: Cardiac Regulation 5] (Assault mk.0 - Logistics mk.0) "Call me beep me, if you want a logi"

Poncho Polous Titans of Phoenix 684	Posted - 2014.12.23 22:21:00 - [21] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: We're also running around in Iron Man suits with guns that shoot plasma and lasers. Oh I'm sorry, what were you saying about realism? Just saying, but not one of the things you mentioned is not a real thing. Yes, laser guns exist. Yes, plasma guns exist (to an extent) Iron man suits.... pretty sure we've seen people in iron suits for a few hundred years or so. Titans of Phoenix > Director > WE DA BUUUUSSSS!
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4108	Posted - 2014.12.23 22:24:00 - [22] - Quote Poncho Polous wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: We're also running around in Iron Man suits with guns that shoot plasma and lasers. Oh I'm sorry, what were you saying about realism? Just saying, but not one of the things you mentioned is not a real thing. Yes, laser guns exist. Yes, plasma guns exist (to an extent) Iron man suits.... pretty sure we've seen people in iron suits for a few hundred years or so. ...dude. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 778	Posted - 2014.12.23 22:24:00 - [23] - Quote Powerh8er wrote: This game has no effect regarding real life physics, we have a HMG that only does danage in close quarters like a flametrhower or shotgun and the rest of the weapons acting accordingley. No this is bullshit. I want to be a machinegunner not a scrubby suicidal trench sweeper. Do you have any idea what a 80GJ railgun would actually do? This game has no physics, don't try to compare it to the real world, think of it like Star Wars. It's in a different universe therefore lightsabers clash. Game Balance > Realism. So if we have to be realistic, then we need to remove the HMG because what you describe will never be balanced.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4108	Posted - 2014.12.23 22:27:00 - [24] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Powerh8er wrote: This game has no effect regarding real life physics, we have a HMG that only does danage in close quarters like a flametrhower or shotgun and the rest of the weapons acting accordingley. No this is bullshit. I want to be a machinegunner not a scrubby suicidal trench sweeper. Do you have any idea what a 80GJ railgun would actually do? This game has no physics, don't try to compare it to the real world, think of it like Star Wars. It's in a different universe therefore lightsabers clash. Game Balance > Realism. So if we have to be realistic, then we need to remove the HMG because what you describe will never be balanced. It would be kind of fun to see someone liquify from the shockwave of a railgun hitting 20m away from them... "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood RISE of LEGION 11	Posted - 2014.12.23 22:27:00 - [25] - Quote if you want range there's an assault hmg. Thanks for your time.
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 779	Posted - 2014.12.23 22:31:00 - [26] - Quote Shamarskii Simon wrote: if you want range there's an assault hmg. Thanks for your time. In all fairness though the assault really is garbage currently since it doesn't have improved accuracy. Doesn't matter if the optimal is higher if you aren't going to hit anything at that range. That's the only thing I'd like to see changed, the assault hmg to have a little bit better accuracy to make it viable. It would give Caldari sentinels a useful HMG.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game RUST415 1582	Posted - 2014.12.23 22:39:00 - [27] - Quote Powerh8er wrote: This game has no effect regarding real life physics, we have a HMG that only does danage in close quarters like a flametrhower or shotgun and the rest of the weapons acting accordingley. No this is bullshit. I want to be a machinegunner not a scrubby suicidal trench sweeper. If he has not replied already, Breakin Stuff has some good views on this A HMG coming onto a letter should be a Death Machine.. but will players accept that??? - Now, we have some meatgrinding heavies, but flanking is also common Fittings are designed to as Power puts it, be suicidal trench sweepers - IF. we got with the Death Machine option are players going to accept that?? -Reduced movement, sprint, stamina and turn speeds -Increased range of HMG pending how it shapes up in combat, HP values may need adjusting. Heavies now are capable of a ganking role, fun as it is, it does not match what a Sentinel could be And that role could be something closer to a vehicle than an infantry as we have now. I don't think enough would get behind this idea as it would easily cause more balancing issues All the same it would be awesome My Min Scout would have fun running around fatties then, although once he gets a bead on me I'm F***** Would players accept that for the abilty to have a longer range HMG??
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 779	Posted - 2014.12.23 22:42:00 - [28] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Powerh8er wrote: This game has no effect regarding real life physics, we have a HMG that only does danage in close quarters like a flametrhower or shotgun and the rest of the weapons acting accordingley. No this is bullshit. I want to be a machinegunner not a scrubby suicidal trench sweeper. If he has not replied already, Breakin Stuff has some good views on this A HMG coming onto a letter should be a Death Machine.. but will players accept that??? - Now, we have some meatgrinding heavies, but flanking is also common Fittings are designed to as Power puts it, be suicidal trench sweepers - IF. we got with the Death Machine option are players going to accept that?? -Reduced movement, sprint, stamina and turn speeds -Increased range of HMG pending how it shapes up in combat, HP values may need adjusting. Heavies now are capable of a ganking role, fun as it is, it does not match what a Sentinel could be And that role could be something closer to a vehicle than an infantry as we have now. I don't think enough would get behind this idea as it would easily cause more balancing issues All the same it would be awesome My Min Scout would have fun running around fatties then, although once he gets a bead on me I'm F***** Would players accept that for the abilty to have a longer range HMG?? I personally don't see what's wrong with hmgs currently... and yes I do use them. To me it sounds the same as the Spkr tanks514 QQ fest. "Why can't my hmg move onto objectives and kill everyone by myself!!! It should take a squad to kill my hmg!!!"
Powerh8er The Rainbow Effect 617	Posted - 2014.12.23 22:43:00 - [29] - Quote I rest my case, as in real life a HMg should be a support weapon being a supreme tactical weapon or death only then then we can discuss whos the better heavy.
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 779	Posted - 2014.12.23 22:45:00 - [30] - Quote Powerh8er wrote: I rest my case, as in real life a HMg should be a support weapon being a supreme tactical weapon or death only then then we can discuss whos the better heavy. It's a game dude. Technically Dust doesn't even make sense, when we can just bombard targets from space... what's the point of a ground position if it takes 15 minutes for it to widdle down a space ship that could of just nuked em from orbit?

Powerh8er The Rainbow Effect 617	Posted - 2014.12.23 22:49:00 - [31] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Powerh8er wrote: I rest my case, as in real life a HMg should be a support weapon being a supreme tactical weapon or death only then then we can discuss whos the better heavy. It's a game dude. Technically Dust doesn't even make sense, when we can just bombard targets from space... what's the point of a ground position if it takes 15 minutes for it to widdle down a space ship that could of just nuked em from orbit? Offcourse it makes sense, at least for a few seconds. Or minutes depends how efficent the enemy is.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game RUST415 1582	Posted - 2014.12.23 22:56:00 - [32] - Quote I'm just stating it is an option, that would really define a Sentinel as a Point Defenc monster As I pointed out tweaks will be needed , but thats only guesswork balacing a mg role would be a nightmare indeed. But it would turn it to a true Defence role, rather than the blobs we have running(waddling) around now Heavies would be used to defend areas, becoming something more like an installation/vehicle Changing the HMG to work at ranges would require a lot of stat changes... and broken stuff But I can't say for certain if it would be a bad thing. (The entire Sentinel role pushed out of CQC)
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4108	Posted - 2014.12.23 22:56:00 - [33] - Quote Powerh8er wrote: I rest my case, as in real life a HMg should be a support weapon being a supreme tactical weapon or death only then then we can discuss whos the better heavy. How does your proposal for an HMG differ from an Assault Combat Rifle? "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net
Powerh8er The Rainbow Effect 617	Posted - 2014.12.23 22:59:00 - [34] - Quote You guys are understanding, I want heavies to be a mobile strongpoint giving the HMg sentinels a tactical weapon not just a weapon to spam.
Powerh8er The Rainbow Effect 617	Posted - 2014.12.23 23:00:00 - [35] - Quote Powerh8er wrote: You guys are understanding, I want heavies to be a mobile strongpoint giving the HMg sentinels a tactical weapon not just a weapon to spam. Giving hte HMg low ammo making it depent on a logi.
Powerh8er The Rainbow Effect 617	Posted - 2014.12.23 23:05:00 - [36] - Quote Making the machinegunner the least scrubby thing to be.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4108	Posted - 2014.12.23 23:08:00 - [37] - Quote Powerh8er wrote: Making the machinegunner the least scrubby thing to be. How does your proposal for an HMG differ from an Assault Combat Rifle? "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood RISE of LEGION 11	Posted - 2014.12.23 23:08:00 - [38] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Shamarskii Simon wrote: if you want range there's an assault hmg. Thanks for your time. In all fairness though the assault really is garbage currently since it doesn't have improved accuracy. Doesn't matter if the optimal is higher if you aren't going to hit anything at that range. That's the only thing I'd like to see changed, the assault hmg to have a little bit better accuracy to make it viable. It would give Caldari sentinels a useful HMG. Actually... Thats a really good point. That's something rattati should look into.
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6501	Posted - 2014.12.23 23:20:00 - [39] - Quote Robocop Junior wrote: My unborn child can spell better. congrats cop XD On the child. Spelling better than that is not achievement. Ive seen betters spelling in the Kill scout with YES thread. XD Amarrian Born And State Patriot.
Powerh8er The Rainbow Effect 617	Posted - 2014.12.24 00:04:00 - [40] - Quote Im not tryin to win a spelling contest.

Powerh8er The Rainbow Effect 617	Posted - 2014.12.24 00:12:00 - [41] - Quote Powerh8er wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Powerh8er wrote: I rest my case, as in real life a HMg should be a support weapon being a supreme tactical weapon or death only then then we can discuss whos the better heavy. It's a game dude. Technically Dust doesn't even make sense, when we can just bombard targets from space... what's the point of a ground position if it takes 15 minutes for it to widdle down a space ship that could of just nuked em from orbit? Offcourse it makes sense, at least for a few seconds. Or minutes depends how efficent the enemy is. Im very drunk atm, but i cant even count how many of my oub dustmatches where decided by seconds let alone your pc matches.,
Powerh8er The Rainbow Effect 617	Posted - 2014.12.24 00:13:00 - [42] - Quote Powerh8er wrote: Powerh8er wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Powerh8er wrote: I rest my case, as in real life a HMg should be a support weapon being a supreme tactical weapon or death only then then we can discuss whos the better heavy. It's a game dude. Technically Dust doesn't even make sense, when we can just bombard targets from space... what's the point of a ground position if it takes 15 minutes for it to widdle down a space ship that could of just nuked em from orbit? Offcourse it makes sense, at least for a few seconds. Or minutes depends how efficent the enemy is. Im very drunk atm, but i cant even count how many of my oub dustmatches where decided by seconds let alone your pc matches., As drunk as i am, i still problaby one of the best heavies in the game.
Union118 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 121	Posted - 2014.12.24 00:19:00 - [43] - Quote gustavo acosta wrote: Close quarters is not 30 meters. I.E. the Hmg is a mid-range weapon not to mention it's OP as sh*t. Its not OP it needs better range but less accuracy its dmg out put is fine at close range cuz its a HMG. The thing is supposed to drop you on sight at 20m and do push back dmg at 30m. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution 3569	Posted - 2014.12.24 00:31:00 - [44] - Quote Heavy is hard mode http://imgur.com/Ijc5Um7 Fatal Absolution Director Shield tanking is hard mode /period.
rasputin900000 Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 20	Posted - 2014.12.24 00:36:00 - [45] - Quote Actually in real life the general electric .30 cal mini gun does severe damage at ranges well past 100 meters and is more often than not used as an assault weapon granted when needed for suppression no other weapon is more welcome.
DDx77 The Exemplars RISE of LEGION 55	Posted - 2014.12.24 00:40:00 - [46] - Quote Robocop Junior wrote: My unborn child can spell better. I think I agree with the OP but this made me laugh hard
Robocop Junior research lab 1054	Posted - 2014.12.24 01:02:00 - [47] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Heavy is hard mode http://imgur.com/Ijc5Um7 Look ma! No logi! Haha very nice :D If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 583	Posted - 2014.12.24 01:04:00 - [48] - Quote HMG is not OP. That's prof 5, and good positioning protecting the point. "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 583	Posted - 2014.12.24 01:06:00 - [49] - Quote rasputin900000 wrote: Actually in real life the general electric .30 cal mini gun does severe damage at ranges well past 100 meters and is more often than not used as an assault weapon granted when needed for suppression no other weapon is more welcome. Exactly! These kids have so much to learn. "Anybody order chaos?"
rasputin900000 Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 21	Posted - 2014.12.24 01:12:00 - [50] - Quote rasputin900000 wrote: Actually in real life the general electric .30 cal mini gun does severe damage at ranges well past 100 meters and is more often than not used as an assault weapon granted when needed for suppression no other weapon is more welcome. I should clarify accurately as it is mounted to choppers that use them on vehicles as well as infantry. So most people of new end are still safe compared to their modern day real world counterparts

rasputin900000 Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 21	Posted - 2014.12.24 01:14:00 - [51] - Quote New Eden not new end auto fill sucks
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution 3570	Posted - 2014.12.24 01:37:00 - [52] - Quote Robocop Junior wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Heavy is hard mode http://imgur.com/Ijc5Um7 Look ma! No logi! Haha very nice :D The guy above me was using a PRO Cal Sent with a Burst (Prior to it being OP) http://imgur.com/PjNlo7k Fatal Absolution Director Shield tanking is hard mode /period.
gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 617	Posted - 2014.12.24 01:55:00 - [53] - Quote Union118 wrote: gustavo acosta wrote: Close quarters is not 30 meters. I.E. the Hmg is a mid-range weapon not to mention it's OP as sh*t. Its not OP it needs better range but less accuracy its dmg out put is fine at close range cuz its a HMG. The thing is supposed to drop you on sight at 20m and do push back dmg at 30m. If we want things to be like in RL I better get my 30 feet shotgun so I can one shot people like in real life amarite? Shotguns are supposed to kill things at up to 40 feet right? This is a game, balancing numbers shouldn't be based off real-life genius. GimmeDatSuhWeet isk
Powerh8er The Rainbow Effect 617	Posted - 2014.12.24 02:27:00 - [54] - Quote gustavo acosta wrote: Union118 wrote: gustavo acosta wrote: Close quarters is not 30 meters. I.E. the Hmg is a mid-range weapon not to mention it's OP as sh*t. Its not OP it needs better range but less accuracy its dmg out put is fine at close range cuz its a HMG. The thing is supposed to drop you on sight at 20m and do push back dmg at 30m. If we want things to be like in RL I better get my 30 feet shotgun so I can one shot people like in real life amarite? Shotguns are supposed to kill things at up to 40 feet right? This is a game, balancing numbers shouldn't be based off real-life genius. Well, if you want 1oo percent realty into the game then shotguns should do no damage against armored targets. then im in, buts thats another thread.
Powerh8er The Rainbow Effect 617	Posted - 2014.12.24 02:30:00 - [55] - Quote Powerh8er wrote: gustavo acosta wrote: Union118 wrote: gustavo acosta wrote: Close quarters is not 30 meters. I.E. the Hmg is a mid-range weapon not to mention it's OP as sh*t. Its not OP it needs better range but less accuracy its dmg out put is fine at close range cuz its a HMG. The thing is supposed to drop you on sight at 20m and do push back dmg at 30m. If we want things to be like in RL I better get my 30 feet shotgun so I can one shot people like in real life amarite? Shotguns are supposed to kill things at up to 40 feet right? This is a game, balancing numbers shouldn't be based off real-life genius. Well, if you want 1oo percent realty into the game then shotguns should do no damage against armored targets. then im in, buts thats another thread. In real life one could accumalate fat to resist shotgun fire. Not very likely the same person would survive HMG fire.
Powerh8er The Rainbow Effect 617	Posted - 2014.12.24 02:52:00 - [56] - Quote Powerh8er wrote: Powerh8er wrote: gustavo acosta wrote: Union118 wrote: gustavo acosta wrote: Close quarters is not 30 meters. I.E. the Hmg is a mid-range weapon not to mention it's OP as sh*t. Its not OP it needs better range but less accuracy its dmg out put is fine at close range cuz its a HMG. The thing is supposed to drop you on sight at 20m and do push back dmg at 30m. If we want things to be like in RL I better get my 30 feet shotgun so I can one shot people like in real life amarite? Shotguns are supposed to kill things at up to 40 feet right? This is a game, balancing numbers shouldn't be based off real-life genius. Well, if you want 1oo percent realty into the game then shotguns should do no damage against armored targets. then im in, buts thats another thread. In real life one could accumalate fat to resist shotgun fire. Not very likely the same person would survive HMG fire. Thers a big difference in pellets designed from shotgun to damage and sharp caliber rounds from an machinegun designed to pierce. Off topic theres actually a record of enlarged people survivinng x number of shotgun rounds as it is almost illegal by geneva convention by hitting people with machinegun fire as it is by larger caliber HMG considererd anti aircraft weapon. So in real life there is no difference between a shotgun round in the center mass and being cut in two by a machine gun.It has the exact number of pulling the trigger.
Powerh8er The Rainbow Effect 617	Posted - 2014.12.24 04:31:00 - [57] - Quote The problem is i can fit my heay or amarr assault with a combat rifle or laserrifle if have logi support, only problem is my hmg is not a hmg just a cartoonic version of machinegun, I want to suppress the enemy and adjust aim to logis advisement or by visual effects . What is the point of HMG it is not a machinegun by current standard?


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