DUST Search - No recoil with turbo controller (video). CCP fix this!!!

Fizzer XCIV wrote:

John Psi wrote:

Fizzer XCIV wrote:

John Psi wrote:

And check this pls.

Lol.
378?
U suk.

I get 425-450 when I'm relaxed. Thats just me normally firing.
If I'm rally laying into it, which is rarely because its really hard to do that and aim at the same time, I'll get ~540ish.

But that's besides the point.
Why should we balance the game around your shortcomings?
What makes you the control subject?
Hell, your speed is downright terrible. I wasn't even joking when I said that you suck. You ******* suck.
An arthritic leper could fire faster than that, and so can 95% of the playerbase.
I can fire faster than than in real life! And that involves a full trigger pull and real recoil, not a button press...

Why should we punish 95% of players with crippling oversampling just because the 5%(you), can't get over their crippling scrubbery?

In short, no.
The 600 RoF stays. Period.

I believe in your honesty.
But you should understand that very few people can do what you can do.
Thus, very few players will use hi ROF honestly.
For the other hi ROF opens direct route to the use of macros/turbo controllers.
Get ready for a meeting with three turbo/macro APEX "Opus" Assault.

I'm sorry for going off on you...
But I've already had my favorite weapon ruined by getting its RoF severely cut. My Scrambler Pistol used to fire so smoothly and it was perfect. The old Scrambler Pistol is the main reason I push CCP so much for a Breach Scrambler Rifle, just in the hopes that it will somewhat resemble the Scrambler Pistol.
Then they cut the RoF. By a lot. Its never felt the same since. Always oversampling. It went from a weapon that I adored, into a weapon that I simply cannot stand using, because of a severe RoF cut. Because oversampling. I absolutely hate oversampling. It makes an otherwise good weapon worthless to me.

I love Semiautomatics. I really do. I always opt for them in any game.
If ScRs and even TacARs were ruined like the Scrambler Pistol was, this game would just become worthless to me. The only thing I would have left is the Plasma Cannon. And that's always been a purely "fun" thing, never a serious weapon I use.

So excuse me when I'm a little defensive about the last regular gun I even like, and my workhorse weapon no less, becoming trash. Just because a miniscule amount of people use modded controllers. I've never even seen people use modded controllers in this game tbh, so I'm really just taking the communities word on it...

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Boot Booter Titans of Phoenix 1092	Posted - 2014.12.22 19:38:00 - [31] - Quote jace silencerww wrote: Spaceman-Rob wrote: Yes well that explains a lot of things I see happen in Dust everyday, I wonder how many of the so called elite players with massive kd ratios use these controllers? Wouldn't be surprised if all of them did. it is about 35% us it, 50% use M/KB, the rest (15%) use the normal non modded ds3 controller. I highly doubt that is true. Cite your sources. Anyway nice video. Similar effect can be achieved by trigger feathering for full auto weapons. The issue is for semi autos and burst weapons. I've encountered several turbo controller users, usually using the scr. (easiest one to tell when used). I'm not sure what a fix would be but I'd really like one, it's just plain not fair.
calvin b Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 2318	Posted - 2014.12.22 20:21:00 - [32] - Quote Ya no overheat with AScR is BS. Can the other voices in other peoples minds hear my voices in my head????
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution 3563	Posted - 2014.12.22 20:56:00 - [33] - Quote What I really want to see is if it affects hipfire. Fatal Absolution Director
pagl1u M Dead Man's Game RUST415 1202	Posted - 2014.12.22 21:01:00 - [34] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: What I really want to see is if it affects hipfire. My friend doesn't play anymore so... Also: dont start screaming. With this thread I dont want to say that a lot of players use a turbo pad, I only wanted to show what happens with one. One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
GLOBAL fils'de RAGE Consolidated Dust 107	Posted - 2014.12.22 21:26:00 - [35] - Quote Using the Scientific Method. 1. I observed the video, because Global's Laboratory of Science and Reason does not own a modded controller to recreate, but I do have an Omega_Nox. 2. Formulate solutions based on my observation: A. I observed that the RR did not have this advantage: therefore to make it fair for cheaters that use the RR the charge up time must be removed from the RR. B. Remove kick and charge up time to make it fair for all users who "ONLY" use the RR without using a modded controller. C. Add a charge up time to ALL weapons in the game to fix the modded controller. I use an external amplifier with Audiotechnica headphones about $400.00 invested in audio, and I can hear a weapons such as the BK-42 with a modded controller.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5518	Posted - 2014.12.22 21:39:00 - [36] - Quote A true try hard would use the XIM or something similar to utilize macros to set up strafing key binds as well as rapid firing with the mouse. All with the same aim assist that DS3s use. Now I don't use m/kb and I've heard m/kb guys complain a lot about the slow response in Dust, but I've personally witnessed one of the top slayers in Dust using a matrix strafe and it was unbelievable. I witnessed 5 or more players shooting at him from relatively close range. He was crushing everyone. Moving back and forth at max speed in very small increments. I don't believe he would have done what he was doing in that pub in a PC battle or he'd have gotten called out. You CAN cheat (I've seen plenty of guys say that they don't believe it's cheating) and gain an edge and I don't think there is any doubt that it happens quite a bit. Only4-5KDRpubbiesCanRunADV24/7\|PCplyrsRunPRO&smashSTD/MLTplyrs24/7. ThisIsHowIt'sAlwaysBeen,ThereforeMustStayThisWay.
hfderrtgvcd 1655	Posted - 2014.12.22 21:48:00 - [37] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: A true try hard would use the XIM or something similar to utilize macros to set up strafing key binds as well as rapid firing with the mouse. All with the same aim assist that DS3s use. Now I don't use m/kb and I've heard m/kb guys complain a lot about the slow response in Dust, but I've personally witnessed one of the top slayers in Dust using a matrix strafe and it was unbelievable. I witnessed 5 or more players shooting at him from relatively close range. He was crushing everyone. Moving back and forth at max speed in very small increments. I don't believe he would have done what he was doing in that pub in a PC battle or he'd have gotten called out. You CAN cheat (I've seen plenty of guys say that they don't believe it's cheating) and gain an edge and I don't think there is any doubt that it happens quite a bit. who? You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1616	Posted - 2014.12.22 23:31:00 - [38] - Quote pagl1u M wrote: KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: TLDR; Full auto weapons used with autofire have zero game balance problems as manual feathering gives the same advantage with less dps cost. Wrong, first of all you dont have the same effect, you still have recoil if you do it manually, 2 you are actually doing it, it s not something mechanical doing it for you, without any effort for you. True, manual work and player skill that feathering is and therefore there is not really a reason to try to fix it away. BUT If you feather manually, on any current weapon and it's CCP settings, if you do it correctly there is not any detectable amount of kick/d. People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1616	Posted - 2014.12.22 23:50:00 - [39] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: You dont need a modded controller to achieve that just retap like every 10 bullets R1 and the recoil resets to 0. Yup, that's the 'feathering'. People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 583	Posted - 2014.12.23 00:09:00 - [40] - Quote Oooooooh! Where's all the guys that swore I was making this up? I want to hear them now! F*cking scrubs! "Anybody order chaos?"

Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 583	Posted - 2014.12.23 00:24:00 - [41] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: pagl1u M wrote: KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: TLDR; Full auto weapons used with autofire have zero game balance problems as manual feathering gives the same advantage with less dps cost. Wrong, first of all you dont have the same effect, you still have recoil if you do it manually, 2 you are actually doing it, it s not something mechanical doing it for you, without any effort for you. True, manual work and player skill that feathering is and therefore there is not really a reason to try to fix it away. BUT If you feather manually, on any current weapon and it's CCP settings, if you do it correctly there is not any detectable amount of kick/d. And that's fine, but modded controllers IS cheating. Sad Part Is CCP won't fix it or can't. So I guess everybody needs to scrub it out huh. "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 583	Posted - 2014.12.23 00:28:00 - [42] - Quote Spaceman-Rob wrote: Yes well that explains a lot of things I see happen in Dust everyday, I wonder how many of the so called elite players with massive kd ratios use these controllers? Wouldn't be surprised if all of them did. They do. Not all, but a great many that just sprout up out of nowhere do. It's easy to notice the difference. "Min assault can't take down a heavy in cqc" my *ss! He can if he's doing this all day long! "Anybody order chaos?"
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1617	Posted - 2014.12.23 00:35:00 - [43] - Quote GLOBAL fils'de RAGE wrote: Using the Scientific Method. 1. I observed the video, because Global's Laboratory of Science and Reason does not own a modded controller to recreate, but I do have an Omega_Nox who is my personal aimbot. 2. Formulate solutions based on my observation: A. I observed that the RR did not have this advantage: therefore to make it fair for cheaters that use the RR the charge up time must be removed from the RR. B. Remove kick and charge up time to make it fair for all users who "ONLY" use the RR without using a modded controller. C. Add a charge up time to ALL weapons in the game to fix the modded controller. D. Add a charge up time to all weapons and fix the POS RR I use an external amplifier with Audiotechnica headphones about $400.00 invested in audio, and I can hear a weapon such as the BK-42 with a modded controller. Programmable mice, or any good programmable HID, can be programmed to circumvent the charge-up barrier. People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 583	Posted - 2014.12.23 01:13:00 - [44] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Eh. Pretty bad video IMO AR and ACR results can be obtained through trigger discipline. Why would you even show the modded RR? AScR is actually WORSE with one. And I can fire faster than that ScR WITHOUT a modded controller. Skill OP plz nerf. And if you can that's skill! The modded controller IS cheating because while you're actually working for yours some cheating c*nt with no skills is giving himself an advantage?! The game is already difficult for new players to even fathom, and then you got scrubs making it impossible for them. No wonder no one stays. The fact that anyone feels they need to go this far is sad. Some of them are likely on the forums trolling guys like they're actually skilled when they truly are garbage. I guarantee this bs is being used by alot of so-called "top players". It's really sad to see this. For all you know they have killed you with it! "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 583	Posted - 2014.12.23 01:24:00 - [45] - Quote pagl1u M wrote: The video The video isn't mine. All the credit goes to my friend Corbina Ninja (Corby is his channel). The video tells everything, so, take a look at it, like it and bump this thread for visibility. Big ups to you for this bro! "Anybody order chaos?"
XxWarlordxX97 BurgezzE.T.F 4412	Posted - 2014.12.23 01:25:00 - [46] - Quote pagl1u M wrote: The video The video isn't mine. All the credit goes to my friend Corbina Ninja (Corby is his channel). The video tells everything, so, take a look at it, like it and bump this thread for visibility. Why do they even have them in this game I don't rage,I get even
XxWarlordxX97 BurgezzE.T.F 4412	Posted - 2014.12.23 01:26:00 - [47] - Quote Zaria Min Deir wrote: Lovely. >.< What happened to Teamplayer? I don't rage,I get even
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5521	Posted - 2014.12.23 02:59:00 - [48] - Quote hfderrtgvcd wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: A true try hard would use the XIM or something similar to utilize macros to set up strafing key binds as well as rapid firing with the mouse. All with the same aim assist that DS3s use. Now I don't use m/kb and I've heard m/kb guys complain a lot about the slow response in Dust, but I've personally witnessed one of the top slayers in Dust using a matrix strafe and it was unbelievable. I witnessed 5 or more players shooting at him from relatively close range. He was crushing everyone. Moving back and forth at max speed in very small increments. I don't believe he would have done what he was doing in that pub in a PC battle or he'd have gotten called out. You CAN cheat (I've seen plenty of guys say that they don't believe it's cheating) and gain an edge and I don't think there is any doubt that it happens quite a bit. who? No chance I'd say who it was. It's not like they'd admit to it. Only4-5KDRpubbiesCanRunADV24/7\|PCplyrsRunPRO&smashSTD/MLTplyrs24/7. ThisIsHowIt'sAlwaysBeen,ThereforeMustStayThisWay.
jace silencerww D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 116	Posted - 2014.12.29 12:45:00 - [49] - Quote Boot Booter wrote: jace silencerww wrote: Spaceman-Rob wrote: Yes well that explains a lot of things I see happen in Dust everyday, I wonder how many of the so called elite players with massive kd ratios use these controllers? Wouldn't be surprised if all of them did. it is about 35% us it, 50% use M/KB, the rest (15%) use the normal non modded ds3 controller. I highly doubt that is true. Cite your sources. Anyway nice video. Similar effect can be achieved by trigger feathering for full auto weapons. The issue is for semi autos and burst weapons. I've encountered several turbo controller users, usually using the scr. (easiest one to tell when used). I'm not sure what a fix would be but I'd really like one, it's just plain not fair. there are glitches that happen only for M/KB users. easy way though is the instant speed when strafing or vehicles.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. 2801	Posted - 2014.12.29 13:02:00 - [50] - Quote Spaceman-Rob wrote: Yes well that explains a lot of things I see happen in Dust everyday, I wonder how many of the so called elite players with massive kd ratios use these controllers? Wouldn't be surprised if all of them did. Turbo controllers have worked like this since the Launch of Uprising when CCP Wolfman Completely overhauled the aiming, recoil/bloom and hit detection mechanics. To the collective hate from the community because it is so **** the job that was done. Compared to what we even had in a Beta. One of the first things we discovered was this with the TAC AR... We made 20 videos as proof for CCP... Plastered You-tube with videos showing off CCP Shanghai's ass to the world... And they just nerfed the TAC AR.... into the ground. When a Macro... A simple control input algorithm.... Can completely negate your entire Recoil and Bloom mechanics Some of the most crucial core mechanics to a FPS. Lighting and fancy Lens flares from the Sun? A WASTE OF FUKING TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.....Where as Solid Core Mechanics like Recoil/Bloom, Hit detection, AIming mechanics, Frame rate, Physics, Collision mechanics, Terrain stickyness, net-code... These? Are things CCP Shanghai should be proud of... Show off... Their Core Mechanics... Not some fancy Lighting mechanic that ultimately is pointless without the stuff that matters being rock solid.

Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 6037	Posted - 2014.12.29 13:02:00 - [51] - Quote Unfortunately again, CCP can't legally regulate home hardware Because for Sony to acknowledge cheating it has to be a modified client or a modified PS3 hardware. Is it scrubby? Yeah, yeah it's scrubby. Can CCP do anything other than try to mitigate it via game mechanics? No. No they can't. In other news I'm borrowing a xim to see just how much of a difference Aim Assist makes for the HMG. Tentatively thus far I gotta say... AA makes a LOT of difference. Who knew I was doing it wrong the whole time? Just for you ragey pubbies that lastpart was sarcasm. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. 2801	Posted - 2014.12.29 13:07:00 - [52] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Unfortunately again, CCP can't legally regulate home hardware Because for Sony to acknowledge cheating it has to be a modified client or a modified PS3 hardware. Is it scrubby? Yeah, yeah it's scrubby. Can CCP do anything other than try to mitigate it via game mechanics? No. No they can't. In other news I'm borrowing a xim to see just how much of a difference Aim Assist makes for the HMG. Tentatively thus far I gotta say... AA makes a LOT of difference. Who knew I was doing it wrong the whole time? Just for you ragey pubbies that lastpart was sarcasm. Console shooters have existed for longer then CCP has... Turbo controllers have existed Longer then CCP has. Yet this is only a problem here? So it isn't CCP's fault? Confused CCP had balanced peripherals..... then they added AA... Now a Mouse with an Emulator using Aim assist is completely unbalanced.. And a Controller stuck using AA regardless if it is turned off in the menu versus a Mouse not using an emulator and AA is completely unbalanced. GG CCP.
Fizzer XCIV Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 1851	Posted - 2014.12.29 13:24:00 - [53] - Quote John Psi wrote: And check this pls. Lol. 378? U suk. I get 425-450 when I'm relaxed. Thats just me normally firing. If I'm rally laying into it, which is rarely because its really hard to do that and aim at the same time, I'll get ~540ish. The role of Caldari suits is to whine on the forums.
John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 1103	Posted - 2014.12.29 14:54:00 - [54] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: John Psi wrote: And check this pls. Lol. 378? U suk. I get 425-450 when I'm relaxed. Thats just me normally firing. If I'm rally laying into it, which is rarely because its really hard to do that and aim at the same time, I'll get ~540ish. But that's besides the point. Why should we balance the game around your shortcomings? What makes you the control subject? Hell, your speed is downright terrible. I wasn't even joking when I said that you suck. You ******* suck. An arthritic leper could fire faster than that, and so can 95% of the playerbase. I can fire faster than than in real life! And that involves a full trigger pull and real recoil, not a button press... Why should we punish 95% of players with crippling oversampling just because the 5%(you), can't get over their crippling scrubbery? In short, no. The 600 RoF stays. Period. I believe in your honesty. But you should understand that very few people can do what you can do. Thus, very few players will use hi ROF honestly. For the other hi ROF opens direct route to the use of macros/turbo controllers. Get ready for a meeting with three turbo/macro APEX "Opus" Assault. Please support fair play!
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 6040	Posted - 2014.12.29 15:27:00 - [55] - Quote Bethhy wrote: fault? Confused CCP had balanced peripherals..... then they added AA... Now a Mouse with an Emulator using Aim assist is completely unbalanced.. And a Controller stuck using AA regardless if it is turned off in the menu versus a Mouse not using an emulator and AA is completely unbalanced. GG CCP. Name a single FPS game that people cannot benefit from hardware or emulation scrubbery. There is not one single game in existence in the FPS genre that cannot give an advantage to a modded controller. There is nothing CCP can do to monitor the hardware one uses without modifying the PS3 or client. Doing so is ILLEGAL in most of the countries CCP does business with. The ONLY thing that can be done with it is tweaking the game rules to minimize the benefit. But this invariably screws actual players. So the game company has to strike a balance between the desire to neutralize the benefit and the desire to keep the game playable for everyone else. And before you say it running scripts to scan for hardware and software the company doesn't like is illegal as hell so unless some sh*tlord comes on the forums bragging about how he gets a 7 kdr and he uses x,y and z to do it there's nothing anyone can do to him. It skirts the edge of automating inputs but unlike things like isboxer and the various bot programs which can be picked out by pattern matching algorithms in the server, you cannot prove a person is cheating. Example: fizzer claims he can squeeze out 450 RPM with a fingrr. Do I buy it? Not even for a second. Can I prove he's lying? Nope. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Fizzer XCIV Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 1855	Posted - 2014.12.29 16:20:00 - [56] - Quote John Psi wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: John Psi wrote: And check this pls. Lol. 378? U suk. I get 425-450 when I'm relaxed. Thats just me normally firing. If I'm rally laying into it, which is rarely because its really hard to do that and aim at the same time, I'll get ~540ish. But that's besides the point. Why should we balance the game around your shortcomings? What makes you the control subject? Hell, your speed is downright terrible. I wasn't even joking when I said that you suck. You ******* suck. An arthritic leper could fire faster than that, and so can 95% of the playerbase. I can fire faster than than in real life! And that involves a full trigger pull and real recoil, not a button press... Why should we punish 95% of players with crippling oversampling just because the 5%(you), can't get over their crippling scrubbery? In short, no. The 600 RoF stays. Period. I believe in your honesty. But you should understand that very few people can do what you can do. Thus, very few players will use hi ROF honestly. For the other hi ROF opens direct route to the use of macros/turbo controllers. Get ready for a meeting with three turbo/macro APEX "Opus" Assault. I'm sorry for going off on you... But I've already had my favorite weapon ruined by getting its RoF severely cut. My Scrambler Pistol used to fire so smoothly and it was perfect. The old Scrambler Pistol is the main reason I push CCP so much for a Breach Scrambler Rifle, just in the hopes that it will somewhat resemble the Scrambler Pistol. Then they cut the RoF. By a lot. Its never felt the same since. Always oversampling. It went from a weapon that I adored, into a weapon that I simply cannot stand using, because of a severe RoF cut. Because oversampling. I absolutely hate oversampling. It makes an otherwise good weapon worthless to me. I love Semiautomatics. I really do. I always opt for them in any game. If ScRs and even TacARs were ruined like the Scrambler Pistol was, this game would just become worthless to me. The only thing I would have left is the Plasma Cannon. And that's always been a purely "fun" thing, never a serious weapon I use. So excuse me when I'm a little defensive about the last regular gun I even like, and my workhorse weapon no less, becoming trash. Just because a miniscule amount of people use modded controllers. I've never even seen people use modded controllers in this game tbh, so I'm really just taking the communities word on it... The role of Caldari suits is to whine on the forums.
John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 1103	Posted - 2014.12.29 17:02:00 - [57] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: John Psi wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: John Psi wrote: And check this pls. Lol. 378? U suk. I get 425-450 when I'm relaxed. Thats just me normally firing. If I'm rally laying into it, which is rarely because its really hard to do that and aim at the same time, I'll get ~540ish. But that's besides the point. Why should we balance the game around your shortcomings? What makes you the control subject? Hell, your speed is downright terrible. I wasn't even joking when I said that you suck. You ******* suck. An arthritic leper could fire faster than that, and so can 95% of the playerbase. I can fire faster than than in real life! And that involves a full trigger pull and real recoil, not a button press... Why should we punish 95% of players with crippling oversampling just because the 5%(you), can't get over their crippling scrubbery? In short, no. The 600 RoF stays. Period. I believe in your honesty. But you should understand that very few people can do what you can do. Thus, very few players will use hi ROF honestly. For the other hi ROF opens direct route to the use of macros/turbo controllers. Get ready for a meeting with three turbo/macro APEX "Opus" Assault. I'm sorry for going off on you... But I've already had my favorite weapon ruined by getting its RoF severely cut. My Scrambler Pistol used to fire so smoothly and it was perfect. The old Scrambler Pistol is the main reason I push CCP so much for a Breach Scrambler Rifle, just in the hopes that it will somewhat resemble the Scrambler Pistol. Then they cut the RoF. By a lot. Its never felt the same since. Always oversampling. It went from a weapon that I adored, into a weapon that I simply cannot stand using, because of a severe RoF cut. Because oversampling. I absolutely hate oversampling. It makes an otherwise good weapon worthless to me. I love Semiautomatics. I really do. I always opt for them in any game. If ScRs and even TacARs were ruined like the Scrambler Pistol was, this game would just become worthless to me. The only thing I would have left is the Plasma Cannon. And that's always been a purely "fun" thing, never a serious weapon I use. So excuse me when I'm a little defensive about the last regular gun I even like, and my workhorse weapon no less, becoming trash. Just because a miniscule amount of people use modded controllers. I've never even seen people use modded controllers in this game tbh, so I'm really just taking the communities word on it... np m8, pleased to discuss with you, rly. u never even seen people use modded controllers in this game? but... what about video onto first post? :) ok, I have more information for you. i play europian server, my average ping around 45ms during 12 hours (yesterday's graph) i'm not a lagger. Every f day I see people who kill heavys over 1k armor in cqc less than two seconds w/o assist. They use tactical rifles that scribbling as sewing machines Zinger. i'm play FPS over 20 years and I know whereof I speak. if something can be abused, there are people who abuse it. Please support fair play!
Starlight Burner ROGUE RELICS VP Gaming Alliance 53	Posted - 2014.12.29 18:43:00 - [58] - Quote Is this what I get hate mail about with the "Nice Turbo control ******" when I use the ScR? Like serious is that what a 'Turbo' is? I never bothered to look it up. I can shoot faster than that thing any day... Guess my trigger finger is faster than yours & you are upset. You get recoil with the ScR if you shoot fast enough in ADS and don't know how to control it.. Boss pwease. Get gud at gam and me gun. Thank god for CCP Rattati!! Rogue Relics is my home away from home.
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1651	Posted - 2014.12.29 20:12:00 - [59] - Quote ...In short: Terminology: Autofire is the real term as 'modded' implies rewired customised controller. Semi auto weapons: - USED TO be op with autofire - CCP tried to fix them with setting (nerfing) the maximum possible rate of fire. This made them near unusable - CCP refixed them with kick//dispersion depending on actual amount of fired shots - Semi auto weapons are in good place now regarding autofire Full auto weapons: - Has never been op with autofire - Have kick/d mechanics depending on trigger press time - kick/d can be minimised with either feathering or autofire - using feathering or autofire has a cost: loss of dps (or in some cases erratic firing behavior) - autofire has bigger cost on dps than feathering! That is the way it should be! Pro-choice! For hazardous self-activated inertial dampeners! We want to live on the edge (((of MCC)))
Ku Shala The Generals 1091	Posted - 2014.12.29 20:27:00 - [60] - Quote http://www.controllerchaos.com/modded-controllers.html if they can do that in cod and mw whats out there for dust? *-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (CK-0 Specialist)* Caldari Loyalist Burst RR should fire like a charge sniper



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