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al nize mk2
No Skillz inc.
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Posted - 2014.12.19 12:35:00 -
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Currently it sucks.
I had an overhaul of my fittings yesterday and realised I still had a stash of commando suits gathering dust in some long forgotten locker..
On attempting to create something that might challenge my Scouts and Assaults I ended up laughing at just how shash the Commando is these days.
So how to improve it and make it worth using again?
GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
2642
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Posted - 2014.12.19 12:37:00 -
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best setups
anything minmatar
gal with breach AR and ACR
amaar with scramber ACR
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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Operative 1125 Lokaas
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
653
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Posted - 2014.12.19 12:44:00 -
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Change the suit to a light suit with sidearm weapons akimbo and take the tank away from scouts and give it to the Commando.
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al nize mk2
No Skillz inc.
217
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Posted - 2014.12.19 12:46:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:best setups
anything minmatar
gal with breach AR and ACR
amaar with scramber ACR
sounds good - but do you ever use it?
The Commando is a lumbering misfit - terrible speed, less armour than assault. plus improved sidearms make the second light slot almost superfluous.
The idea of a commando is pretty nice - but it has to be upgraded I reckon.
Give the Commando an extra weapon. Allow a sidearm as well as the 2 light weapons. Bang, back in contention!
*** edit - or maybe give it a light weapon and 2 sidearms ***
GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥
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Bam Nutshot
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
48
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Posted - 2014.12.19 12:49:00 -
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al nize mk2 wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:best setups
anything minmatar
gal with breach AR and ACR
amaar with scramber ACR sounds good - but do you ever use it? The Commando is a lumbering misfit - terrible speed, less armour than assault. plus improved sidearms make the second light slot almost superfluous. The idea of a commando is pretty nice - but it has to be upgraded I reckon. Give the Commando an extra weapon. Allow a sidearm as well as the 2 light weapons. Bang, back in contention! *** edit - or maybe give it a light weapon and 2 sidearms ***
Hell No.
For the State!
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al nize mk2
No Skillz inc.
217
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Posted - 2014.12.19 12:54:00 -
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Bam Nutshot wrote:al nize mk2 wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:best setups
anything minmatar
gal with breach AR and ACR
amaar with scramber ACR sounds good - but do you ever use it? The Commando is a lumbering misfit - terrible speed, less armour than assault. plus improved sidearms make the second light slot almost superfluous. The idea of a commando is pretty nice - but it has to be upgraded I reckon. Give the Commando an extra weapon. Allow a sidearm as well as the 2 light weapons. Bang, back in contention! *** edit - or maybe give it a light weapon and 2 sidearms *** Hell No.
Okay! Give it something else then... How about a bunch of equipment slots...?
GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥
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ROMULUS H3X
research lab
266
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Posted - 2014.12.19 13:09:00 -
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Bam Nutshot wrote:al nize mk2 wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:best setups
anything minmatar
gal with breach AR and ACR
amaar with scramber ACR sounds good - but do you ever use it? The Commando is a lumbering misfit - terrible speed, less armour than assault. plus improved sidearms make the second light slot almost superfluous. The idea of a commando is pretty nice - but it has to be upgraded I reckon. Give the Commando an extra weapon. Allow a sidearm as well as the 2 light weapons. Bang, back in contention! *** edit - or maybe give it a light weapon and 2 sidearms *** Hell No.
HELL YES, we should also have the sidearm reload speed bonus put back on the commando as well... because Commando = weapon expert, not just light weapons.
They took away this bonus EVEN though it was slated to stay according to the patch notes of 1.8**? or 1.7? i dont remember but it was one of those when they removed the sidearm bonus on my commando and it was a sad saaaaaad day :(
FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS
PLASMA/PISTOL/PUNCH
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
4830
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Posted - 2014.12.19 13:11:00 -
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Make is a light frame with grenades
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LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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ROMULUS H3X
research lab
266
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Posted - 2014.12.19 13:11:00 -
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al nize mk2 wrote:Bam Nutshot wrote:al nize mk2 wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:best setups
anything minmatar
gal with breach AR and ACR
amaar with scramber ACR sounds good - but do you ever use it? The Commando is a lumbering misfit - terrible speed, less armour than assault. plus improved sidearms make the second light slot almost superfluous. The idea of a commando is pretty nice - but it has to be upgraded I reckon. Give the Commando an extra weapon. Allow a sidearm as well as the 2 light weapons. Bang, back in contention! *** edit - or maybe give it a light weapon and 2 sidearms *** Hell No. Okay! Give it something else then... How about a bunch of equipment slots...?
Commando's need more speed/ or an extra high or low slot.
FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS
PLASMA/PISTOL/PUNCH
ALL OF YOU PUNKS GET HUMILIATED AFTER LUNCH!
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
2645
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Posted - 2014.12.19 13:12:00 -
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al nize mk2 wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:best setups
anything minmatar
gal with breach AR and ACR
amaar with scramber ACR sounds good - but do you ever use it? The Commando is a lumbering misfit - terrible speed, less armour than assault. plus improved sidearms make the second light slot almost superfluous. The idea of a commando is pretty nice - but it has to be upgraded I reckon. Give the Commando an extra weapon. Allow a sidearm as well as the 2 light weapons. Bang, back in contention! *** edit - or maybe give it a light weapon and 2 sidearms ***
terrible speed? 8m/s is terrible speed?
and yes the minmando is god so i use it all the damn time
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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Izlare Lenix
Pub Stars
1179
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Posted - 2014.12.19 13:17:00 -
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The commando could use alot of things but some extra cpu/pg, an extra high or low depending on race and a grenade slot would make me happy.
The only winner of WWIII will be the cockroaches.
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al nize mk2
No Skillz inc.
218
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Posted - 2014.12.19 13:19:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:
terrible speed? 8m/s is terrible speed?
and yes the minmando is god so i use it all the damn time
Fair point. I suppose I am moaning about the galcom - and yes minwhatever outruns everything..
commandos still feel like waddling dodo's to me!
GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥
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robin williams' ghost
Damaged Beyond Repair
Learning Alliance
287
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Posted - 2014.12.19 14:04:00 -
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The problem is everyone thinks they should be able to run and gun like an assault with two weapons. It's not meant for that. If you're a cod scrub, I don't recommend the commando. Where they shine is used as a support suit as it was intended. Perched on a building or ledge with swarm launchers, mass driver or something similar. Use it correctly and you'll love it. I had several games last night alone where I went in the neighborhood of 25/2 with my minmando/ MD fitting
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Michael Cratar
Fenrir's Wolves
346
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Posted - 2014.12.19 14:13:00 -
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robin williams' ghost wrote:The problem is everyone thinks they should be able to run and gun like an assault with two weapons. It's not meant for that. If you're a cod scrub, I don't recommend the commando. Where they shine is used as a support suit as it was intended. Perched on a building or ledge with swarm launchers, mass driver or something similar. Use it correctly and you'll love it. I had several games last night alone where I went in the neighborhood of 25/2 with my minmando/ MD fitting
Min Mando is by far the best commando out there. Next up would be a tie between cal/gal commando. The Amarr commando is a joke.
Commandos should be a semi bridge between logies and assaults. Give them 2 equipment slots and proto (don't increase bandwith) and a tweak or two to the base stats (mainly shield regeneration on the Amarr) and commandos should be good to go.
One of the downers for commandos tho is there 2 light weapons slots making them reliant on weapons balanceing.
On that note. Cal commando would be up there with the min commando if the charge up time for the RR wasn't so long.
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al nize mk2
No Skillz inc.
218
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Posted - 2014.12.19 14:13:00 -
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robin williams' ghost wrote:The problem is everyone thinks they should be able to run and gun like an assault with two weapons. It's not meant for that. If you're a cod scrub, I don't recommend the commando. Where they shine is used as a support suit as it was intended. Perched on a building or ledge with swarm launchers, mass driver or something similar. Use it correctly and you'll love it. I had several games last night alone where I went in the neighborhood of 25/2 with my minmando/ MD fitting
Hello Robin, loved you your whole career!
I hear what you're saying - and please please I've never played COD and never want to. My moan about the commando is maybe coloured by me going gallente and having fantastic assaults and scouts to chose from. I get the role - but it's coming in way under par.
Interesting to see the two posters backing the commando in it's current form are both using minmatar.
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Atiim
Titans of Phoenix
14599
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Posted - 2014.12.19 14:16:00 -
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Give it more slots than a Starter Fit.
The 1st Matari Commando
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
6431
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Posted - 2014.12.19 14:17:00 -
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al nize mk2 wrote:Currently it sucks.
I had an overhaul of my fittings yesterday and realised I still had a stash of commando suits gathering dust in some long forgotten locker..
On attempting to create something that might challenge my Scouts and Assaults I ended up laughing at just how shash the Commando is these days.
So how to improve it and make it worth using again?
Increase Speed and movement speed to actual Logi level (and increase Logi speed to -0.15 compared to assaults)
Give them one extra slot = AM +1High , Gal +Cal+Min +1Low
Reduce their Scan Precision/Profile by -5
Amarr Logi, Scout, Assault , Sentinel and soon Commando. Check MY loyalty Empress o7
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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
679
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Posted - 2014.12.19 14:18:00 -
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Either smaller hit box, which would make it a "heavy medium frame"
Or more hp or speed (it's too slow for such little hp, my assault out shines it in very way but that second light weapon)
Dust 514, the BEST WORST game you can't stop playing.
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robin williams' ghost
Damaged Beyond Repair
Learning Alliance
287
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Posted - 2014.12.19 14:23:00 -
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al nize mk2 wrote:robin williams' ghost wrote:The problem is everyone thinks they should be able to run and gun like an assault with two weapons. It's not meant for that. If you're a cod scrub, I don't recommend the commando. Where they shine is used as a support suit as it was intended. Perched on a building or ledge with swarm launchers, mass driver or something similar. Use it correctly and you'll love it. I had several games last night alone where I went in the neighborhood of 25/2 with my minmando/ MD fitting Hello Robin, loved you your whole career! I hear what you're saying - and please please I've never played COD and never want to. My moan about the commando is maybe coloured by me going gallente and having fantastic assaults and scouts to chose from. I get the role - but it's coming in way under par. Interesting to see the two posters backing the commando in it's current form are both using minmatar.
I think it's because the minmando has bonuses to the best weapons for the role. Swarms and Md, throw in a combat rifle and the thing is a beast. I think all races should get the swarm bonus personally. Not the md though.
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1547
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Posted - 2014.12.19 14:23:00 -
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We bring Galmando's AR+PLC/SG to PC matches, denying the power of that suit is foolish 
If I want AV, I'll try use a Cal/Min.. If I'm leaving someone outside covering range, the Amarr is there
With objectives being fought for in CQ that leaves the Amarr lacking some uses..
But at the same time it's the toughest commando so has that advantage
Commando's seem like decent options, especially when used by dedicated mercs |
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Regnier Feros
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
160
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Posted - 2014.12.19 14:29:00 -
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Give the commando a passive squad bonus, when the commando is in a squad his/her squadmates receives a bonus to reload speed, & damage based on the weapon damage type.
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robin williams' ghost
Damaged Beyond Repair
Learning Alliance
289
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Posted - 2014.12.19 14:30:00 -
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Regnier Feros wrote:Give the commando a passive squad bonus, when the commando is in a squad his/her squadmates receives a bonus to reload speed, & damage based on the weapon damage type.
Lolno
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Jathniel
G I A N T
1331
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Posted - 2014.12.19 14:31:00 -
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Commandos suck?
Have most of you even used one?
That damage bonus they get is no joke.
A Galmando will absolutely rip your face off with a damage modded proto Breach or TAR.
A Calmando with a sniper rifle, or the current ARR is sick.
A Minmando shooting snowballs and opening mad suppression with a Six Kin?
Commandos are niche suits. Just like Sentinels. Except their niche is dual-versatility.
A Calmando running a RR and a Swarm Launcher, can adequately protect a group of assaults running across a field from enemy vehicles, and long range threats.
Then you have Forks when he was running a Calmando as a true Overwatch sniper. That was a very specific niche.
What I'm saying is, you don't want Commandos being spammed like Assaults. You don't need them to. They are for players that have very specific niches, or roles of execution in mind.
If anything, buff their damage bonus.
Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
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robin williams' ghost
Damaged Beyond Repair
Learning Alliance
289
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Posted - 2014.12.19 14:33:00 -
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Regnier Feros wrote:Give the commando a passive squad bonus, when the commando is in a squad his/her squadmates receives a bonus to reload speed, & damage based on the weapon damage type.
Let's create a scenario. ,1 minmando, 5 min assaults. Now every assault using cr would have not only a larger clip size but 15 percent increased damage and reload speed.
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robin williams' ghost
Damaged Beyond Repair
Learning Alliance
289
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Posted - 2014.12.19 14:36:00 -
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Jathniel wrote:Commandos suck?
Have most of you even used one?
That damage bonus they get is no joke.
A Galmando will absolutely rip your face off with a damage modded proto Breach or TAR.
A Calmando with a sniper rifle, or the current ARR is sick.
A Minmando shooting snowballs and opening mad suppression with a Six Kin?
Commandos are niche suits. Just like Sentinels. Except their niche is dual-versatility.
A Calmando running a RR and a Swarm Launcher, can adequately protect a group of assaults running across a field from enemy vehicles, and long range threats.
Then you have Forks when he was running a Calmando as a true Overwatch sniper. That was a very specific niche.
What I'm saying is, you don't want Commandos being spammed like Assaults. You don't need them to. They are for players that have very specific niches, or roles of execution in mind.
If anything, buff their damage bonus.
It wouldn't fly in a pc, but in a pub you can have some great lols with a commando spam. We've done it and had a blast.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
9154
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Posted - 2014.12.19 15:06:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:best setups
anything minmatar
gal with breach AR and ACR
amaar with scramber ACR
Wrong.
Minmatar Commando
Combat Rifle | Mass Driver
Kill Everyone.
Born Deteis Caldari. Rejected by my Kinsman.
Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe.
Nobody messes with my family
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Dauth Jenkins
Titans of Phoenix
620
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Posted - 2014.12.19 15:12:00 -
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i love my caldari commando. i stack rechargers and regulators on it, and have my rail riflle and mass driver on it. its an amazing ranged suppression suit, especially on the new maps where you can get a hight advantage.
-Sincerely
--The Dual Swarm Commando
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Boot Booter
Titans of Phoenix
1086
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Posted - 2014.12.19 15:29:00 -
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I do like the commando but I also think it's a little UP. I think they need more fitting capacity first and then possibly one more slot according to racial preference.
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RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1588
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Posted - 2014.12.19 15:38:00 -
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Ummmm....
I would have to disagree. I love my Minmando. All of them.
The reload speed bonus on a maxed out reload speed weapon is comically fast.
I can run CR/Swarms. Hey look AV that doesn't leave me helpless to slayers.
Plasma Cannon/Mass Driver. Oh look they're in a hole.
Also Mass Driver/ Mass Driver because screw clip size.
CR/Mass Driver because people think they're safe behind cover.
CR/CR because I'm ******* mental
Hero of the Amarrinese.
Wheeee!
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robin williams' ghost
Damaged Beyond Repair
Learning Alliance
292
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Posted - 2014.12.19 15:50:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:I do like the commando but I also think it's a little UP. I think they need more fitting capacity first and then possibly one more slot according to racial preference.
Min commando
Do you mean more slots or more pg/cpu? Cause I can fit all proto modules on mine with a proto assault md and a bk42 cr with no problem.
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