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Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2578	Posted - 2014.12.18 12:37:00 - [1] - Quote i feel so left out after having been here for so long. Ive been thinking of doing a guide full of Advance teambuilding/squad/TeamComp/Map/FC tactics complete with pictures but its going to take a LOT of work since i was planning on detailing map dinamics with color coded spots for positive and negative cover, attack lines, and natural battle line formation. was just wondering if it was something that was in demand since theres a lot of good stuff ive collected over the years that would help out struggling PC teams, aspiring commanders, and vets alike. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Cyzad4 Blackfish Corp. 511	Posted - 2014.12.18 12:43:00 - [2] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: i feel so left out after having been here for so long. Ive been thinking of doing a guide full of Advance teambuilding/squad/TeamComp/Map/FC tactics complete with pictures but its going to take a LOT of work since i was planning on detailing map dinamics with color coded spots for positive and negative cover, attack lines, and natural battle line formation. was just wondering if it was something that was in demand since theres a lot of good stuff ive collected over the years that would help out struggling PC teams, aspiring commanders, and vets alike. Detailed map images like you said sound like a really good idea, IDK how much help it would be to vets but might help the noobs realize which uplinks to use and what hills to not go charging over, a bit of basic tactics never hurt anyone. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2579	Posted - 2014.12.18 12:45:00 - [3] - Quote Cyzad4 wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: i feel so left out after having been here for so long. Ive been thinking of doing a guide full of Advance teambuilding/squad/TeamComp/Map/FC tactics complete with pictures but its going to take a LOT of work since i was planning on detailing map dinamics with color coded spots for positive and negative cover, attack lines, and natural battle line formation. was just wondering if it was something that was in demand since theres a lot of good stuff ive collected over the years that would help out struggling PC teams, aspiring commanders, and vets alike. Detailed map images like you said sound like a really good idea, IDK how much help it would be to vets but might help the noobs realize which uplinks to use and what hills to not go charging over, a bit of basic tactics never hurt anyone. ive played for top tier PC teams.... trust me when i say it would help them Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
robin williams' ghost Damaged Beyond Repair Learning Alliance 276	Posted - 2014.12.18 12:46:00 - [4] - Quote Just keep in mind this is a forum and no-one takes the time to read anything more than two sentences long. Robin Williams endorses this corp
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2579	Posted - 2014.12.18 12:49:00 - [5] - Quote robin williams' ghost wrote: Just keep in mind this is a forum and no-one takes the time to read anything more than two sentences long. theres pretty pictures involved for those who dont read good Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
robin williams' ghost Damaged Beyond Repair Learning Alliance 276	Posted - 2014.12.18 12:52:00 - [6] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: robin williams' ghost wrote: Just keep in mind this is a forum and no-one takes the time to read anything more than two sentences long. theres pretty pictures involved for those who dont read good Ok I'm in Robin Williams endorses this corp
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2579	Posted - 2014.12.18 12:56:00 - [7] - Quote but the real question of course is am i dust famous yet? Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
WARxion ForDUST G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 209	Posted - 2014.12.18 12:56:00 - [8] - Quote Fellow Hungarian mates put together a few very-very detailed EVE and DUST guides, you can find them here. http://www.isktheguide.com/ The Vol. 3 (DUST) maybe a bit outdated but I recommend to mail the author (Laci) with a request to help with updating it. Yes, I'm that desperate...
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2580	Posted - 2014.12.18 13:02:00 - [9] - Quote WARxion ForDUST wrote: Fellow Hungarian mates put together a few very-very detailed EVE and DUST guides, you can find them here. http://www.isktheguide.com/ The Vol. 3 (DUST) maybe a bit outdated but I recommend to mail the author (Laci) with a request to help with updating it. its a little.... low on detail level. im talking micro manage tactics like a football team uses plays not "this is what this module does!!!!" im noot touching fittings with a 10foot pole and aside from small notes in how one would build a team i dont really talk about the suits themselves as a single person... im more interested in detailing what to do on a squad/team level than an individual one Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
robin williams' ghost Damaged Beyond Repair Learning Alliance 277	Posted - 2014.12.18 13:03:00 - [10] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: but the real question of course is am i dust famous yet? Who are you again? Robin Williams endorses this corp

WARxion ForDUST G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 209	Posted - 2014.12.18 13:07:00 - [11] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: WARxion ForDUST wrote: Fellow Hungarian mates put together a few very-very detailed EVE and DUST guides, you can find them here. http://www.isktheguide.com/ The Vol. 3 (DUST) maybe a bit outdated but I recommend to mail the author (Laci) with a request to help with updating it. its a little.... low on detail level. im talking micro manage tactics like a football team uses plays not "this is what this module does!!!!" im noot touching fittings with a 10foot pole and aside from small notes in how one would build a team i dont really talk about the suits themselves as a single person... im more interested in detailing what to do on a squad/team level than an individual one Just as I said, send them a mail with your ideas to improve the PC or whatever chapter. Yes, I'm that desperate...
Atiim Titans of Phoenix 14575	Posted - 2014.12.18 13:13:00 - [12] - Quote I remember you from ONS. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2583	Posted - 2014.12.18 13:24:00 - [13] - Quote WARxion ForDUST wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: WARxion ForDUST wrote: Fellow Hungarian mates put together a few very-very detailed EVE and DUST guides, you can find them here. http://www.isktheguide.com/ The Vol. 3 (DUST) maybe a bit outdated but I recommend to mail the author (Laci) with a request to help with updating it. its a little.... low on detail level. im talking micro manage tactics like a football team uses plays not "this is what this module does!!!!" im noot touching fittings with a 10foot pole and aside from small notes in how one would build a team i dont really talk about the suits themselves as a single person... im more interested in detailing what to do on a squad/team level than an individual one Just as I said, send them a mail with your ideas to improve the PC or whatever chapter. are they going to pay me? im a dust merc, i dont do **** so that someone else can make a profit. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Immortal John Ripper 26793	Posted - 2014.12.18 15:13:00 - [14] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Cyzad4 wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: i feel so left out after having been here for so long. Ive been thinking of doing a guide full of Advance teambuilding/squad/TeamComp/Map/FC tactics complete with pictures but its going to take a LOT of work since i was planning on detailing map dinamics with color coded spots for positive and negative cover, attack lines, and natural battle line formation. was just wondering if it was something that was in demand since theres a lot of good stuff ive collected over the years that would help out struggling PC teams, aspiring commanders, and vets alike. Detailed map images like you said sound like a really good idea, IDK how much help it would be to vets but might help the noobs realize which uplinks to use and what hills to not go charging over, a bit of basic tactics never hurt anyone. ive played for top tier PC teams.... trust me when i say it would help them Top Tier? Who.... I have always thought you as more like mid tier considerin I never seen you in any of the A-team battles in any of the wars... But yes you are kinda forum famous. True Adamance = #1 poster IJR = #1 in likes The Amarr control and dominate these forums.All your base are belong to us
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2587	Posted - 2014.12.18 15:20:00 - [15] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Cyzad4 wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: i feel so left out after having been here for so long. Ive been thinking of doing a guide full of Advance teambuilding/squad/TeamComp/Map/FC tactics complete with pictures but its going to take a LOT of work since i was planning on detailing map dinamics with color coded spots for positive and negative cover, attack lines, and natural battle line formation. was just wondering if it was something that was in demand since theres a lot of good stuff ive collected over the years that would help out struggling PC teams, aspiring commanders, and vets alike. Detailed map images like you said sound like a really good idea, IDK how much help it would be to vets but might help the noobs realize which uplinks to use and what hills to not go charging over, a bit of basic tactics never hurt anyone. ive played for top tier PC teams.... trust me when i say it would help them Top Tier? Who.... I have always thought you as more like mid tier considerin I never seen you in any of the A-team battles in any of the wars... But yes you are kinda forum famous. faught for both fatal absolution and anchient exhiles during the FA/AE/Nian war where nobody but those 3 teams faught (some exceptions) right before the big blue donut :P i was also so damn disapointed at the lack of organisation and tactics that i just say out of PC. that and i have thrid world internet due to canadas wonderful monopoly that grants us 5% of the speed for 500% of the price of third world countries. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Immortal John Ripper 26794	Posted - 2014.12.18 15:27:00 - [16] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Top Tier? Who.... I have always thought you as more like mid tier considerin I never seen you in any of the A-team battles in any of the wars... But yes you are kinda forum famous. faught for both fatal absolution and anchient exhiles during the FA/AE/Nian war where nobody but those 3 teams faught (some exceptions) right before the big blue donut :P i was also so damn disapointed at the lack of organisation and tactics that i just say out of PC. that and i have thrid world internet due to canadas wonderful monopoly that grants us 5% of the speed for 500% of the price of third world countries. [/quote] Ohh that was right after I left the scene. Blue donut was my fault :p I will take the blame. It happened because I left pc. I was the one hope for the game and I failed. JK JK lack of organization? was it really that bad? When I fought with TP we were all pretty organized, same with OH. Never fought on AE's side but I fought against their A-team plenty of times to know how good they are. If you fought with those corps A teams then you should have been introduced to some of the same tactics I have. True Adamance = #1 poster IJR = #1 in likes The Amarr control and dominate these forums.All your base are belong to us
Robocop Junior research lab 1010	Posted - 2014.12.18 15:39:00 - [17] - Quote I remember going up against 16 latino killers with only 10 AE & completely destroying them, will have to look through my pics, but it wasn't pretty! VIOS CON DIOS AMIGOS! If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2590	Posted - 2014.12.18 15:41:00 - [18] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: faught for both fatal absolution and anchient exhiles during the FA/AE/Nian war where nobody but those 3 teams faught (some exceptions) right before the big blue donut :P i was also so damn disapointed at the lack of organisation and tactics that i just say out of PC. that and i have thrid world internet due to canadas wonderful monopoly that grants us 5% of the speed for 500% of the price of third world countries. Ohh that was right after I left the scene. Blue donut was my fault :p I will take the blame. It happened because I left pc. I was the one hope for the game and I failed. JK JK lack of organization? was it really that bad? When I fought with TP we were all pretty organized, same with OH. Never fought on AE's side but I fought against their A-team plenty of times to know how good they are. If you fought with those corps A teams then you should have been introduced to some of the same tactics I have. their strength lies purely inn the strength of their individuals. they play off each other but not WITH each other. organisation seems to be limited to overall game plan and an opening play like rushing red home point or 2x dropship deploy under MCC, and static predictable uplink placement, as well as an FC calling out aswitch here and there and raging when its not fast enough (despite no setup) nobody runs plays mid game past the opener and once things settle in unless a single member of the team does something out of the ordanary on their own initiative the games set in stone at the 5 minuite mark. nobody runs pratices, named playes, attack setups (after the opener) i once got praised by a third party in channel but not in game simply because i could do propper comms chatter and call outs in a game i was playing for FA nobody uses landmarks or grids nobody holds a battle line on purpose (as a squad rather than an individual) its all about simple blitzecrieg mechanics and an opening play that is likely being done by the enamy team as well at some level you see some basic squad setup, but only becuase of familiarity rather than intent. overall everythings REALLY basic. give me an army ill show you the difference. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Immortal John Ripper 26796	Posted - 2014.12.18 15:54:00 - [19] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: faught for both fatal absolution and anchient exhiles during the FA/AE/Nian war where nobody but those 3 teams faught (some exceptions) right before the big blue donut :P i was also so damn disapointed at the lack of organisation and tactics that i just say out of PC. that and i have thrid world internet due to canadas wonderful monopoly that grants us 5% of the speed for 500% of the price of third world countries. Ohh that was right after I left the scene. Blue donut was my fault :p I will take the blame. It happened because I left pc. I was the one hope for the game and I failed. JK JK lack of organization? was it really that bad? When I fought with TP we were all pretty organized, same with OH. Never fought on AE's side but I fought against their A-team plenty of times to know how good they are. If you fought with those corps A teams then you should have been introduced to some of the same tactics I have. their strength lies purely inn the strength of their individuals. they play off each other but not WITH each other. organisation seems to be limited to overall game plan and an opening play like rushing red home point or 2x dropship deploy under MCC, and static predictable uplink placement, as well as an FC calling out aswitch here and there and raging when its not fast enough (despite no setup) nobody runs plays mid game past the opener and once things settle in unless a single member of the team does something out of the ordanary on their own initiative the games set in stone at the 5 minuite mark. nobody runs pratices, named playes, attack setups (after the opener) i once got praised by a third party in channel but not in game simply because i could do propper comms chatter and call outs in a game i was playing for FA (and was the only one doing so) nobody uses landmarks or grids nobody holds a battle line on purpose (as a squad rather than an individual) its all about simple blitzecrieg mechanics and an opening play that is likely being done by the enamy team as well at some level you see some basic squad setup, but only becuase of familiarity rather than intent. overall everythings REALLY basic. give me an army ill show you the difference. Then nevermind. You don't know any of the strategies I have been introduced too. Defending is pretty straightforward but taking points each takes strategy. Not just run in firing blindly. I get that and I fought with top corps who had their own strats for taking objectives other than running in blind. True Adamance = #1 poster IJR = #1 in likes The Amarr control and dominate these forums.All your base are belong to us
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2598	Posted - 2014.12.18 15:59:00 - [20] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: faught for both fatal absolution and anchient exhiles during the FA/AE/Nian war where nobody but those 3 teams faught (some exceptions) right before the big blue donut :P i was also so damn disapointed at the lack of organisation and tactics that i just say out of PC. that and i have thrid world internet due to canadas wonderful monopoly that grants us 5% of the speed for 500% of the price of third world countries. Ohh that was right after I left the scene. Blue donut was my fault :p I will take the blame. It happened because I left pc. I was the one hope for the game and I failed. JK JK lack of organization? was it really that bad? When I fought with TP we were all pretty organized, same with OH. Never fought on AE's side but I fought against their A-team plenty of times to know how good they are. If you fought with those corps A teams then you should have been introduced to some of the same tactics I have. their strength lies purely inn the strength of their individuals. they play off each other but not WITH each other. organisation seems to be limited to overall game plan and an opening play like rushing red home point or 2x dropship deploy under MCC, and static predictable uplink placement, as well as an FC calling out aswitch here and there and raging when its not fast enough (despite no setup) nobody runs plays mid game past the opener and once things settle in unless a single member of the team does something out of the ordanary on their own initiative the games set in stone at the 5 minuite mark. nobody runs pratices, named playes, attack setups (after the opener) i once got praised by a third party in channel but not in game simply because i could do propper comms chatter and call outs in a game i was playing for FA (and was the only one doing so) nobody uses landmarks or grids nobody holds a battle line on purpose (as a squad rather than an individual) its all about simple blitzecrieg mechanics and an opening play that is likely being done by the enamy team as well at some level you see some basic squad setup, but only becuase of familiarity rather than intent. overall everythings REALLY basic. give me an army ill show you the difference. Then nevermind. You don't know any of the strategies I have been introduced too. Defending is pretty straightforward but taking points each takes strategy. Not just run in firing blindly. I get that and I fought with top corps who had their own strats for taking objectives other than running in blind. I guess it is true what everyone says.... The skill level has really dropped since the old days. there were some very basic stuff towards that but overall it just diddnt impress me Nyian san is ALOT more oraganised ive noticed... ive peaked in on their comms in a pub match... i had no idea what was being said but i knew EXACTLY what was going on.... it was scary... and it was a pub match. other than that i dont know much about their operation other than it can be defeated by a suicidal dropship pilot with a habbit of crashing on purpose. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost

Immortal John Ripper 26797	Posted - 2014.12.18 16:00:00 - [21] - Quote I miss cubs. True Adamance = #1 poster IJR = #1 in likes The Amarr control and dominate these forums.All your base are belong to us
General John Ripper 26804	Posted - 2014.12.18 16:00:00 - [22] - Quote I miss cubs. True Adamance = #1 poster IJR = #1 in likes The Amarr control and dominate these forums.All your base are belong to us
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2598	Posted - 2014.12.18 16:02:00 - [23] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: I miss cubs. yah his team was more oraganised than the ones i find nowadays, hes a poor sport about stuff though. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Immortal John Ripper 26797	Posted - 2014.12.18 16:05:00 - [24] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: I miss cubs. yah his team was more oraganised than the ones i find nowadays, hes a poor sport about stuff though. Meh, Zatara was 100x worse and he is just a cheap imitation. After pc, I would go play 3 games and turn corp comms back on and he is stilll talking about the pc match . LOLOL. True Adamance = #1 poster IJR = #1 in likes The Amarr control and dominate these forums.All your base are belong to us
General John Ripper 26804	Posted - 2014.12.18 16:05:00 - [25] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: I miss cubs. yah his team was more oraganised than the ones i find nowadays, hes a poor sport about stuff though. Meh, Zatara was 100x worse and he is just a cheap imitation. After pc, I would go play 3 games and turn corp comms back on and he is stilll talking about the pc match . LOLOL. True Adamance = #1 poster IJR = #1 in likes The Amarr control and dominate these forums.All your base are belong to us
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2598	Posted - 2014.12.18 16:09:00 - [26] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: I miss cubs. yah his team was more oraganised than the ones i find nowadays, hes a poor sport about stuff though. Meh, Zatara was 100x worse and he is just a cheap imitation. After pc, I would go play 3 games and turn corp comms back on and he is stilll talking about the pc match . LOLOL. I KNOW!!!!!! great at finding talent.... horrable at using it Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Back and Forth 6495	Posted - 2014.12.18 17:58:00 - [27] - Quote A guide on PC tactics, prepare for a lot of criticism... I play multiple PC's daily and i have not seen you on the other side or on my side ever in the past months. PC tactics change constantly with updates and hotfixes. if you are not up to date might as well not make a guide. ))<>(( [Event]Dust Hunger Games PC, ISK,EVE, Corp Services
Dust User KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1280	Posted - 2014.12.18 18:04:00 - [28] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: A guide on PC tactics, prepare for a lot of criticism... I play multiple PC's daily and i have not seen you on the other side or on my side ever in the past months. PC tactics change constantly with updates and hotfixes. if you are not up to date might as well not make a guide. What he said.
GTA V FTW 222	Posted - 2014.12.18 18:05:00 - [29] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: that and i have thrid world internet due to canadas wonderful monopoly that grants us 5% of the speed for 500% of the price of third world countries. How about your third world education level. Please do not waist you time on a guide if your going to use your 1st grade righting skills.
Robocop Junior research lab 1013	Posted - 2014.12.18 18:07:00 - [30] - Quote Lol waist If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.

Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2617	Posted - 2014.12.18 18:10:00 - [31] - Quote GTA V FTW wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: that and i have thrid world internet due to canadas wonderful monopoly that grants us 5% of the speed for 500% of the price of third world countries. How about your third world education level. Please do not waist you time on a guide if your going to use your 1st grade righting skills. dyslexia is a fight i don't feel like undertaking today. i dont bring my A game to shitpost on the forums sir. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
GTA V FTW 222	Posted - 2014.12.18 18:17:00 - [32] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: GTA V FTW wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: that and i have thrid world internet due to canadas wonderful monopoly that grants us 5% of the speed for 500% of the price of third world countries. How about your third world education level. Please do not waist you time on a guide if your going to use your 1st grade righting skills. dyslexia is a fight i don't feel like undertaking today. i dont bring my A game to shitpost on the forums sir. A game?????? I am talking about 1st grade basics like starting sentences with Capital letters. Oh and BTW these forums even have spell check for you and underline misspelled words for you to review and fix. LOL A game!
RevoItZ Red Star. EoN. 413	Posted - 2014.12.18 18:18:00 - [33] - Quote Who the hell are you?! Winner of EU Prime League Tournament Winner of EU Squad Cup RIP MAG
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2617	Posted - 2014.12.18 18:23:00 - [34] - Quote GTA V FTW wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: GTA V FTW wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: that and i have thrid world internet due to canadas wonderful monopoly that grants us 5% of the speed for 500% of the price of third world countries. How about your third world education level. Please do not waist you time on a guide if your going to use your 1st grade righting skills. dyslexia is a fight i don't feel like undertaking today. i dont bring my A game to shitpost on the forums sir. A game?????? I am talking about 1st grade basics like starting sentences with Capital letters. Oh and BTW these forums even have spell check for you and underline misspelled words for you to review and fix. LOL A game! if it so offends you then please by all means edit my posts and repost them in their entirety for me to copy/paste. ill pay 1 isk per word to not have to give a ****. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
GTA V FTW 222	Posted - 2014.12.18 18:28:00 - [35] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: GTA V FTW wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: GTA V FTW wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: that and i have thrid world internet due to canadas wonderful monopoly that grants us 5% of the speed for 500% of the price of third world countries. How about your third world education level. Please do not waist you time on a guide if your going to use your 1st grade righting skills. dyslexia is a fight i don't feel like undertaking today. i dont bring my A game to shitpost on the forums sir. A game?????? I am talking about 1st grade basics like starting sentences with Capital letters. Oh and BTW these forums even have spell check for you and underline misspelled words for you to review and fix. LOL A game! if it so offends you then please by all means edit my posts and repost them in their entirety for me to copy/paste. ill pay 1 isk per word to not have to give a ****. You still live with your mommy don't you? Pssst, look in a mirror. You see that neck full of hair? Yeah that is what is known as a neck beard and contrary to what you mommy might be telling you, no that will never get you laid.
First Prophet Followers of The Prophet 2135	Posted - 2014.12.18 18:34:00 - [36] - Quote robin williams' ghost wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: but the real question of course is am i dust famous yet? Who are you again? People find this this review helpful!
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2618	Posted - 2014.12.18 18:34:00 - [37] - Quote GTA V FTW wrote: You still live with your mommy don't you? Pssst, look in a mirror. You see that neck full of hair? Yeah that is what is known as a neck beard and contrary to what you mommy might be telling you, no that will never get you laid. so being a grammer **** diddnt seem to illicit the responce you wanted so your attempting to escalate now? if it wasnt so amusing to watch you make an ass of yoruself ide tell you to stop wasteing your time. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Immortal John Ripper 26804	Posted - 2014.12.18 18:36:00 - [38] - Quote eats taco True Adamance = #1 poster IJR = #1 in likes The Amarr control and dominate these forums.All your base are belong to us
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2618	Posted - 2014.12.18 18:39:00 - [39] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: eats taco share? Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Cyzad4 Blackfish Corp. 513	Posted - 2014.12.18 18:46:00 - [40] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: i was also so damn disapointed at the lack of organisation and tactics that i just say out of PC. that and i have thrid world internet due to canadas wonderful monopoly that grants us 5% of the speed for 500% of the price of third world countries. WAS or IS still that bad? I've always been kinda curious about PC but since I don't really talk to anyone in game and my corp consists of me and 3 friends none of which play anymore my options are somewhat limited. I feel ya on the crap connection thing, I'm downtown T.O. and it's ok'ish for the part but good luck doing anything on a sunday. IDK about famous but I know who you are... admittedly that doesn't likely help lol Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.

Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2687	Posted - 2014.12.18 18:52:00 - [41] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: A guide on PC tactics, prepare for a lot of criticism... I play multiple PC's daily and i have not seen you on the other side or on my side ever in the past months. PC tactics change constantly with updates and hotfixes. if you are not up to date might as well not make a guide. I agree about the tactics changing -- that is very true. Ghost is a quality player, however, with a good tactical/strategic head on his shoulders -- no doubt about that. Ghost would be welcomed with open arms in ML, and if he wanted to play for us he only needs to put in an application. We generally don't pay people for their services, however, so there's that.
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2620	Posted - 2014.12.18 18:52:00 - [42] - Quote Cyzad4 wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: i was also so damn disapointed at the lack of organisation and tactics that i just say out of PC. that and i have thrid world internet due to canadas wonderful monopoly that grants us 5% of the speed for 500% of the price of third world countries. WAS or IS still that bad? I've always been kinda curious about PC but since I don't really talk to anyone in game and my corp consists of me and 3 friends none of which play anymore my options are somewhat limited. I feel ya on the crap connection thing, I'm downtown T.O. and it's ok'ish for the part but good luck doing anything on a sunday. IDK about famous but I know who you are... admittedly that doesn't likely help lol your closest to the nearest ontario HUB good sir. your enjoying the finest internet canada has to offer. i just had to bribe a tech to fix my internet because his contract said he couldnt fix it because i wasnt a bell customer, but my internet supplier couldnt fix it because bell owns the line and as part of the contract they HAVE to use bells techs for maintanance calls.... great things these monopolies are. was bad, i have pretty much refused to rejoin the PC scene so im not entirely sure what it looks like at the moment. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2622	Posted - 2014.12.18 18:57:00 - [43] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: A guide on PC tactics, prepare for a lot of criticism... I play multiple PC's daily and i have not seen you on the other side or on my side ever in the past months. PC tactics change constantly with updates and hotfixes. if you are not up to date might as well not make a guide. I agree about the tactics changing -- that is very true. Ghost is a quality player, however, with a good tactical/strategic head on his shoulders -- no doubt about that. Ghost would be welcomed with open arms in ML, and if he wanted to play for us he only needs to put in an application. We generally don't pay people for their services, however, so there's that. metagames come and go, but the tactics of war remain true in all metagames. if i was flying a python ide require refunds for lost ships due to my knack for using them as if they were vipers (it takes to long to land so i just tend to crash em because its faster and provides cover for my hax) but i speced out of em so no worries there. i actually like alot of you ML guys so i might actually concider it Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Leither Yiltron Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1040	Posted - 2014.12.18 19:40:00 - [44] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: i feel so left out after having been here for so long. Ive been thinking of doing a guide full of Advance teambuilding/squad/TeamComp/Map/FC tactics complete with pictures but its going to take a LOT of work since i was planning on detailing map dinamics with color coded spots for positive and negative cover, attack lines, and natural battle line formation. was just wondering if it was something that was in demand since theres a lot of good stuff ive collected over the years that would help out struggling PC teams, aspiring commanders, and vets alike. It really won't. What would be useful, right now, would be a straightforward written guide that introduces new FC's to the core strategic ideas that are going to be necessary for PC: - How you're going to layout your team, basic composition ideas. The new FC should walk away with the guide with a firm understanding that s/he MUST have a rough composition and strategy before the game starts. - How you need to start a match, with particular emphasis on how to build your team for speed capturing objectives and laying uplinks. Again, and FC should walk away understanding that the beginning 30s of a match must be executed well for your team to have a ghost (the puns!) of a chance of winning. - The basics about drop ships, uplinks, and other spawning measures. In the current climate it's essential that any aspiring FC understand the crucial nature of spawn points and placement. - Vehicle basics, including an emphasis on how losing infantry members on-the-ground is a serious cost for calling in a tanker/ADS pilot/whatever. Essentially what you want is the "here's the bare minimum of what you need to play PC competitively" guide. I started in on writing a document like this, but didn't find the time to finish it. It seems that I've thrown away all my notes, which is also a bit unfortunate as I'd offer them to anyone who's seriously looking at providing some documentation. To your question about color coded maps, attack lines, and "natural battle line formation", all of that will be too detailed for anybody who needs documentation to make use of. Only a very small number of people are going to decide that they want to start a team into PC, a smaller number will come to the forums or wherever else and find your documentation, and then an even smaller number will have the mental tenacity to digest that type of guide. Those FC's who already have a grasp of the tactics and logistics probably aren't going to find something like this particularly useful either. Map colorations and battle lines? If you're already experienced, you know what's going on. If you're not, then there's very little way that you're going to look at material like that and be like: "Oh, the next level." Maybe if we had a glut of middle-tier PC teams looking to step it up to the next level that type of material might be useful. At the present though? The split looks more bimodal: There are a lot of newer teams that don't understand basic Skirmish strategy, such that they'll instantly lose to any team that does. Then there are a core of teams who do understand those strategies, and they're pretty much the "top" teams that are left playing by this point. If you end up making that introductory guide then I will call you Dust famous at least. ;3 Long term roadmap by Aeon Amadi Have a pony
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2622	Posted - 2014.12.18 19:49:00 - [45] - Quote Leither Yiltron wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: i feel so left out after having been here for so long. Ive been thinking of doing a guide full of Advance teambuilding/squad/TeamComp/Map/FC tactics complete with pictures but its going to take a LOT of work since i was planning on detailing map dinamics with color coded spots for positive and negative cover, attack lines, and natural battle line formation. was just wondering if it was something that was in demand since theres a lot of good stuff ive collected over the years that would help out struggling PC teams, aspiring commanders, and vets alike. It really won't. What would be useful, right now, would be a straightforward written guide that introduces new FC's to the core strategic ideas that are going to be necessary for PC: - How you're going to layout your team, basic composition ideas. The new FC should walk away with the guide with a firm understanding that s/he MUST have a rough composition and strategy before the game starts. - How you need to start a match, with particular emphasis on how to build your team for speed capturing objectives and laying uplinks. Again, and FC should walk away understanding that the beginning 30s of a match must be executed well for your team to have a ghost (the puns!) of a chance of winning. - The basics about drop ships, uplinks, and other spawning measures. In the current climate it's essential that any aspiring FC understand the crucial nature of spawn points and placement. - Vehicle basics, including an emphasis on how losing infantry members on-the-ground is a serious cost for calling in a tanker/ADS pilot/whatever. Essentially what you want is the "here's the bare minimum of what you need to play PC competitively" guide. I started in on writing a document like this, but didn't find the time to finish it. It seems that I've thrown away all my notes, which is also a bit unfortunate as I'd offer them to anyone who's seriously looking at providing some documentation. To your question about color coded maps, attack lines, and "natural battle line formation", all of that will be too detailed for anybody who needs documentation to make use of. Only a very small number of people are going to decide that they want to start a team into PC, a smaller number will come to the forums or wherever else and find your documentation, and then an even smaller number will have the mental tenacity to digest that type of guide. Those FC's who already have a grasp of the tactics and logistics probably aren't going to find something like this particularly useful either. Map colorations and battle lines? If you're already experienced, you know what's going on. If you're not, then there's very little way that you're going to look at material like that and be like: "Oh, the next level." Maybe if we had a glut of middle-tier PC teams looking to step it up to the next level that type of material might be useful. At the present though? The split looks more bimodal: There are a lot of newer teams that don't understand basic Skirmish strategy, such that they'll instantly lose to any team that does. Then there are a core of teams who do understand those strategies, and they're pretty much the "top" teams that are left playing by this point. If you end up making that introductory guide then I will call you Dust famous at least. ;3 that was.... excellent feedback thank you Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2689	Posted - 2014.12.18 19:58:00 - [46] - Quote Leither Yiltron wrote: ...a lot of good feedback... Good to see you, Leither. Where have you been? Miss playing with you, bro.
Immortal John Ripper 26808	Posted - 2014.12.18 20:13:00 - [47] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: eats taco share? Sure. True Adamance = #1 poster IJR = #1 in likes The Amarr control and dominate these forums.All your base are belong to us
General John Ripper 26838	Posted - 2014.12.18 20:13:00 - [48] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: eats taco share? Sure. True Adamance = #1 poster IJR = #1 in likes The Amarr control and dominate these forums.All your base are belong to us
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2626	Posted - 2014.12.18 20:34:00 - [49] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: eats taco share? Sure. nomnomnom Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Leither Yiltron Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1041	Posted - 2014.12.18 20:38:00 - [50] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Leither Yiltron wrote: ...a lot of good feedback... Good to see you, Leither. Where have you been? Miss playing with you, bro. Not playing much of anything, including Dust. Too much intervening real life, too little improvement to Dust. I keep up with the changes, but as much as Rat has proven that he has a good head on his shoulders, there same core problems with the game that have stuck around for the last 1.5 years haven't been touched much. PC changes are sounding interesting, though it's still a bad sell that they're doing PC before Fac War. Long term roadmap by Aeon Amadi Have a pony

John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 4956	Posted - 2014.12.18 20:53:00 - [51] - Quote A bit of advice from someone who's done it: You're being far too ambitious and will end up either taking 3x longer than you think it will or get frustrated and never finish it. Writing my first guide, on uplink tactics, turned into this massive wall of text because, like you, I aimed to be as comprehensive as possible. It totally got away from me and ended up taking upwards of 12 hours to do. There's a lot of (hopefully good) stuff in there but it's so long a lot of people probably don't get to it all. Even worse, every time there's a major update it's a huge undertaking to edit the guide to reflect the changes. I have no idea when I'll be able to put BW into it, I just don't have time! So, I stripped down my approach and kept it simple when I wrote a guide to using the LR and it was much much easier. I'd suggest starting with a very basic guide first, stick it in the rookie section. Real PC people are most likely either not going to read it or already know. Look through the rookie section first too, a lot of stuff has been covered before so you can refer to it and save youself some work. Simple tactics. How to approach the objective, when to defend or move on. Counters to the most common couple of offensive strategies. Basic squad compisition. Keep it basic and aimed at those who don't have much experience so they can learn some of those lessons without having to get stomped out of PC while doing it, like EoN or AE did to the rest of us. (The godfather of tactical logistics)
Dust User KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1282	Posted - 2014.12.18 20:56:00 - [52] - Quote Leither Yiltron wrote: there same core problems with the game that have stuck around for the last 1.5 years haven't been touched much. PC changes are sounding interesting, though it's still a bad sell that they're doing PC before Fac War. Exactly. Fix the framerate issues in PC before you add new maps just causing more problems.
Meee One Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki 1399	Posted - 2014.12.18 21:11:00 - [53] - Quote I know who you are,well i know your name. The question is,do you know mine? Because i know i'm not forum famous. Official Blueberry of the Forums. Title given by my #1 fan Sgt Kirk.
TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 1429	Posted - 2014.12.18 21:28:00 - [54] - Quote yes you are. welcome to the big leagues AKA Zirzo Valcyn AFKing since 2012
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2633	Posted - 2014.12.18 21:29:00 - [55] - Quote TEBOW BAGGINS wrote: yes you are. welcome to the big leagues your like count looks a little peckish, so i donated you one Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 1429	Posted - 2014.12.18 21:32:00 - [56] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: TEBOW BAGGINS wrote: yes you are. welcome to the big leagues your like count looks a little peckish, so i donated you one 2 can play at that game AKA Zirzo Valcyn AFKing since 2012
StubbyDucky 386	Posted - 2014.12.19 15:29:00 - [57] - Quote Dust User wrote: Leither Yiltron wrote: there same core problems with the game that have stuck around for the last 1.5 years haven't been touched much. PC changes are sounding interesting, though it's still a bad sell that they're doing PC before Fac War. Exactly. Fix the framerate issues in PC before you add new maps just causing more problems. Framerate lag in PC and LOL 16v16 are the two main reason I gave up any hope that this game would ever be good. Meh, nothing to see here! Move along please, move along.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 5508	Posted - 2014.12.19 15:44:00 - [58] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: i feel so left out after having been here for so long. Ive been thinking of doing a guide full of Advance teambuilding/squad/TeamComp/Map/FC tactics complete with pictures but its going to take a LOT of work since i was planning on detailing map dinamics with color coded spots for positive and negative cover, attack lines, and natural battle line formation. was just wondering if it was something that was in demand since theres a lot of good stuff ive collected over the years that would help out struggling PC teams, aspiring commanders, and vets alike. I remember your name... so that is a start. This project sounds very interesting, and would set you apart for doing something that no one else has really done on the same level, so I expect you would definitely be forum famous if you published this analysis. I would certainly be interested to see it. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 5511	Posted - 2014.12.19 15:56:00 - [59] - Quote WARxion ForDUST wrote: Fellow Hungarian mates put together a few very-very detailed EVE and DUST guides, you can find them here. http://www.isktheguide.com/ The Vol. 3 (DUST) maybe a bit outdated but I recommend to mail the author (Laci) with a request to help with updating it. Last time I checked I was the author of 9% of ISK The Guide Vol.3 (DUST). Makes me feel important. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 5511	Posted - 2014.12.19 15:59:00 - [60] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: WARxion ForDUST wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: WARxion ForDUST wrote: Fellow Hungarian mates put together a few very-very detailed EVE and DUST guides, you can find them here. http://www.isktheguide.com/ The Vol. 3 (DUST) maybe a bit outdated but I recommend to mail the author (Laci) with a request to help with updating it. its a little.... low on detail level. im talking micro manage tactics like a football team uses plays not "this is what this module does!!!!" im noot touching fittings with a 10foot pole and aside from small notes in how one would build a team i dont really talk about the suits themselves as a single person... im more interested in detailing what to do on a squad/team level than an individual one Just as I said, send them a mail with your ideas to improve the PC or whatever chapter. are they going to pay me? im a dust merc, i dont do **** so that someone else can make a profit. You can download the guide for free... and how are you ever going to become DUST famous if you don't let people publish your work? Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.

Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 5515	Posted - 2014.12.19 16:20:00 - [61] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: GTA V FTW wrote: You still live with your mommy don't you? Pssst, look in a mirror. You see that neck full of hair? Yeah that is what is known as a neck beard and contrary to what you mommy might be telling you, no that will never get you laid. so being a grammer **** diddnt seem to illicit the responce you wanted so your attempting to escalate now? if it wasnt so amusing to watch you make an ass of yoruself ide tell you to stop wasteing your time. I know this is off topic, but I am curious as to why so many people don't start their sentences with capital letters these days? Of course when I send texts on my phone I use a stylist, write my text out longhand, and use character recognition software to convert into a character font before sending, so maybe I would not understand... As a dyslexic myself I don't buy the dyslexia argument for poor capitalization. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 5515	Posted - 2014.12.19 16:29:00 - [62] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: A bit of advice from someone who's done it: You're being far too ambitious and will end up either taking 3x longer than you think it will or get frustrated and never finish it. Writing my first guide, on uplink tactics, turned into this massive wall of text because, like you, I aimed to be as comprehensive as possible. It totally got away from me and ended up taking upwards of 12 hours to do. There's a lot of (hopefully good) stuff in there but it's so long a lot of people probably don't get to it all. Even worse, every time there's a major update it's a huge undertaking to edit the guide to reflect the changes. I have no idea when I'll be able to put BW into it, I just don't have time! So, I stripped down my approach and kept it simple when I wrote a guide to using the LR and it was much much easier. I'd suggest starting with a very basic guide first, stick it in the rookie section. Real PC people are most likely either not going to read it or already know. Look through the rookie section first too, a lot of stuff has been covered before so you can refer to it and save youself some work. Simple tactics. How to approach the objective, when to defend or move on. Counters to the most common couple of offensive strategies. Basic squad composition. Keep it basic and aimed at those who don't have much experience so they can gain some of that knowledge without having to learn it the hard way.... by getting stomped out of PC by EoN or AE like the rest of us in small/indie corps did. I would add to this a suggestion that you reserve a bunch of extra posts. Many of my Guides are 30% longer now than when I originally posted them, because people keep giving me ideas of what to add. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2653	Posted - 2014.12.19 16:54:00 - [63] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: GTA V FTW wrote: You still live with your mommy don't you? Pssst, look in a mirror. You see that neck full of hair? Yeah that is what is known as a neck beard and contrary to what you mommy might be telling you, no that will never get you laid. so being a grammer **** diddnt seem to illicit the responce you wanted so your attempting to escalate now? if it wasnt so amusing to watch you make an ass of yoruself ide tell you to stop wasteing your time. I know this is off topic, but I am curious as to why so many people don't start their sentences with capital letters these days? Of course when I send texts on my phone I use a stylist, write my text out longhand, and use character recognition software to convert into a character font before sending, so maybe I would not understand... As a dyslexic myself I don't buy the dyslexia argument for poor capitalization. because i work all day and dont want to spend effort on a shitpost on some video game forums. i just type, i dont bother trying to edit it becuase editing gives me a headache and it aint worth my time. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 5531	Posted - 2014.12.19 23:47:00 - [64] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: GTA V FTW wrote: You still live with your mommy don't you? Pssst, look in a mirror. You see that neck full of hair? Yeah that is what is known as a neck beard and contrary to what you mommy might be telling you, no that will never get you laid. so being a grammer **** diddnt seem to illicit the responce you wanted so your attempting to escalate now? if it wasnt so amusing to watch you make an ass of yoruself ide tell you to stop wasteing your time. I know this is off topic, but I am curious as to why so many people don't start their sentences with capital letters these days? Of course when I send texts on my phone I use a stylist, write my text out longhand, and use character recognition software to convert into a character font before sending, so maybe I would not understand... As a dyslexic myself I don't buy the dyslexia argument for poor capitalization. because i work all day and dont want to spend effort on a shitpost on some video game forums. i just type, i dont bother trying to edit it becuase editing gives me a headache and it aint worth my time. Hmm, I guess I have different priorities. I put a lot of time into everything I write. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
sir RAVEN WING Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 2047	Posted - 2014.12.19 23:50:00 - [65] - Quote Ghost, If you're DUST famous, then I'm both EVE famous and DUST famous. Funny because I can't even understand EVE. Goodbye. Biomassed I am known from here to the darkest reaches of space. The above has been proven.


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