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Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.12.18 04:07:00 -
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Just letting everyone know. Its so much better now.
Only on my Amassault does the ScR hold up to the Tac. But even there its better to use the TAC to save PG for better modules.
Please, make my Opus pretty...
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Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.12.18 04:37:00 -
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I was afraid that this would be the end result of the TAC buff. Haven't gotten to try out the assault scram post buff either. Oh wells.
Dren&Templar Tragedy.
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Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.12.18 04:39:00 -
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Zeylon Rho wrote:I was afraid that this would be the end result of the TAC buff. Haven't gotten to try out the assault scram post buff either. Oh wells.
I knew it was going to be the result, and warned against it. But no one [read:Rattati] didn't listen to me. Just like I knew the BrAR was going to be with the buff...
But yeah, whatever. I'll just abuse the **** out of the new OP TAC until its fixed. Just like I did with the Breach.
Please, make my Opus pretty...
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Banjo Robertson
Random Gunz RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.12.18 04:41:00 -
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Boo Frickin Hoo |
Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.12.18 05:35:00 -
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Banjo Robertson wrote:Boo Frickin Hoo I'm glad to see you've found the new FotM as well. Its going to be nice padding my KRD for a few days before it catches on...
Please, make my Opus pretty...
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Aeon Amadi
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.18 05:54:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Banjo Robertson wrote:Boo Frickin Hoo I'm glad to see you've found the new FotM as well. Its going to be nice padding my KRD for a few days before it catches on...
Calling FotM less than 24 hours after a change is made does seem kinda whiny, no offense.
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Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.12.18 06:00:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Banjo Robertson wrote:Boo Frickin Hoo I'm glad to see you've found the new FotM as well. Its going to be nice padding my KRD for a few days before it catches on... Calling FotM less than 24 hours after a change is made does seem kinda whiny, no offense.
I am calling FotM. I'll just let time prove me right.
Please, make my Opus pretty...
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Vitharr Foebane
Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.12.18 08:49:00 -
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This makes me a very sad citizen of the Empire, but I'll still use em if for no other reason then to provide data on how terribad they are
Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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IZI doro
Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.12.18 16:08:00 -
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TAR514?
What Year Is It!?
Ignorance is only a problem when left untreated. Stop the spread of ignorance with a daily dose of knowledge!
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Cavani1EE7
Murphys-Law
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Posted - 2014.12.18 16:35:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Banjo Robertson wrote:Boo Frickin Hoo I'm glad to see you've found the new FotM as well. Its going to be nice padding my KRD for a few days before it catches on... Calling FotM less than 24 hours after a change is made does seem kinda whiny, no offense. I am calling FotM. I'll just let time prove me right. So you're implying that a weapon has to be better than the ScR in order to be FoTM right?
And just lol @ "Either let the ScR shoot 24 rounds before it overheats on any suit(30 with Amassault), and reduce its PG by a wide margin, or undo the TacAR buff completely."
Shield Tanking ain't UP breh. That's why there are zero shield tankers on the battlefield or they are double tanked! :)
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All Gucci
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
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Posted - 2014.12.18 16:39:00 -
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Now the AmarrAss are just a slower ,barely higher ehp GallAss lol Great job CCP
Emperor Gucci
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Cody Sietz
Random Gunz RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.12.18 16:55:00 -
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I haven't tried it, but at least t gets to be OP on all suits instead of the Amarr assault only getting to use a OP weapon.
:p
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cavani1EE7
Murphys-Law
622
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Posted - 2014.12.18 16:56:00 -
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All Gucci wrote:Now the AmarrAss are just a slower ,barely higher ehp GallAss lol Great job CCP Yup my felloww ez-modder, Gal OP amarr UP.
TAR got a +6 clip size buff? OMFG OP NERF IT NAO. My heat-built up ScRub got a reasonable clip size nerf? BUFF IT NAO CUZ TAR>SCR!!1!!!!1!!
Shield Tanking ain't UP breh. That's why there are zero shield tankers on the battlefield or they are double tanked! :)
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Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.12.18 16:56:00 -
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An ScR without overheat is just asking to become FotM. Its happened before, and its happening again. With the same weapon. Or were you not here during the reign of the TacAR in 1.0-1.1? They were the only rifle anyone used.
The current TacAR has almost the exact same stats as the ones in 1.0-1.1, and that's pretty damning.
Please, make my Opus pretty...
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Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.12.18 16:58:00 -
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Cavani1EE7 wrote:All Gucci wrote:Now the AmarrAss are just a slower ,barely higher ehp GallAss lol Great job CCP Yup my felloww ez-modder, Gal OP amarr UP. TAR got a +6 clip size buff? OMFG OP NERF IT NAO. My heat-built up ScRub got a reasonable clip size nerf? BUFF IT NAO CUZ TAR>SCR!!1!!!!1!!
Just saving this so that I can rub it in your face when you are complaining about how OP that they are in a week or two.
Please, make my Opus pretty...
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Cavani1EE7
Murphys-Law
622
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Posted - 2014.12.18 17:04:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Cavani1EE7 wrote:All Gucci wrote:Now the AmarrAss are just a slower ,barely higher ehp GallAss lol Great job CCP Yup my felloww ez-modder, Gal OP amarr UP. TAR got a +6 clip size buff? OMFG OP NERF IT NAO. My heat-built up ScRub got a reasonable clip size nerf? BUFF IT NAO CUZ TAR>SCR!!1!!!!1!! Just saving this so that I can rub it in your face when you are complaining about how OP that they are in a week or two. kcool
Shield Tanking ain't UP breh. That's why there are zero shield tankers on the battlefield or they are double tanked! :)
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All Gucci
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
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Posted - 2014.12.18 17:07:00 -
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Cavani1EE7 wrote:All Gucci wrote:Now the AmarrAss are just a slower ,barely higher ehp GallAss lol Great job CCP Yup my felloww ez-modder, Gal OP amarr UP. TAR got a +6 clip size buff? OMFG OP NERF IT NAO. My heat-built up ScRub got a reasonable clip size nerf? BUFF IT NAO CUZ TAR>SCR!!1!!!!1!! From the tone of your responses I can tell you have nearly no freinds...(and that's being generous )and/or living with mommy still. lmao you are the only oppositon to the OP its clear that little brain of your can not process what we are trying to simplify for you .Lol I bet you rage when a scrambler one shots you in the face with a charge shot hahahaha meet me in-game I'll gladly make you cry shield puss
Emperor Gucci
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Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.12.18 17:57:00 -
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You know, I really don't give a single **** about the magazine reduction on the ScR. It has ZERO effect on how powerful the weapon is, and doesn't change the way I use the weapon in any way at all. I always reload before I run a mag dry. Always. I'm more upset about the tiny reduction in carried ammo(225 to 210) than the magazine reduction. And I don't really even care about that much at all, its just such a miniscule thing. So I might have to lay down a Nanohive a few seconds earlier? Not a big deal.
The issue I have here, is that even if they bumped the Magazine size back up to 45 on the ScR, I'd still use the TacAR.
Because it can put out more damage before you need to pause shooting. A lot more damage, 421.5 more damage to be exact, which is more of an increase than Amassault 5 provides for the ScR. This drastically increases its ability to kill, to the point that the TacAR is better than the ScR on every suit, even the Amassault.
The fact that "pause shooting" means reloading instead of overheating for the TacAR is just more reason to use one. Spending 3 seconds reloading, is so much better than spending 5 seconds waving your gun around after it blow up in your face.
Please, make my Opus pretty...
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Banjo Robertson
Random Gunz RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.12.18 18:15:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Banjo Robertson wrote:Boo Frickin Hoo I'm glad to see you've found the new FotM as well. Its going to be nice padding my KRD for a few days before it catches on... I use all AR variants, still gonna keep using the breach even with a smaller clip, used the tac when it was 18 shot clip, used the burst sometimes just to keep reminding myself that it sucked.
Now I get to use all 4 and think they're all pretty good.
You know the SCR has its charge up shot, and a longer range, dont be such a baby like the tac is gonna be the FoTM overpowered 'the sky is falling' kind of over reaction that you're championing. And you know what else, nobody should be stupid enough to keep firing scrambler until it over heats, and if you did, I hope you killed the person you were shooting at because you're gonna need a break from being shot at.
The TAC AR also lost a lot more ammo for its max ammo than the SCR did. Tac AR needed a bigger clip size, maybe it didnt need 24, I felt it needed 26, some people think 22 might be good.
I don't chase FoTM, I use the AR, the PLC, the Ion pistol, as my main 3 weapons, stop acting like everyone who defends a change is a FoTM chaser you snot nosed brat! |
Boot Booter
Titans of Phoenix
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Posted - 2014.12.18 18:35:00 -
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Scr has more range, still a higher clip, faster reload, and a charge shot . If you are using your scrambler rifle like a mindless idiot it may seem inferior, I agree. |
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CUSE WarLord
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
266
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Posted - 2014.12.18 18:46:00 -
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Banjo Robertson wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Banjo Robertson wrote:Boo Frickin Hoo I'm glad to see you've found the new FotM as well. Its going to be nice padding my KRD for a few days before it catches on... I use all AR variants, still gonna keep using the breach even with a smaller clip, used the tac when it was 18 shot clip, used the burst sometimes just to keep reminding myself that it sucked. Now I get to use all 4 and think they're all pretty good. You know the SCR has its charge up shot, and a longer range, dont be such a baby like the tac is gonna be the FoTM overpowered 'the sky is falling' kind of over reaction that you're championing. And you know what else, nobody should be stupid enough to keep firing scrambler until it over heats, and if you did, I hope you killed the person you were shooting at because you're gonna need a break from being shot at. The TAC AR also lost a lot more ammo for its max ammo than the SCR did. Tac AR needed a bigger clip size, maybe it didnt need 24, I felt it needed 26, some people think 22 might be good. I don't chase FoTM, I use the AR, the PLC, the Ion pistol, as my main 3 weapons, stop acting like everyone who defends a change is a FoTM chaser you snot nosed brat! he is one of the best scrambler rifle users in this game and you act like he doesn't know what he is talking about in turn making yourself look dumber than a bag of hammers.
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Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.12.18 18:56:00 -
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CUSE WarLord wrote:Banjo Robertson wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Banjo Robertson wrote:Boo Frickin Hoo I'm glad to see you've found the new FotM as well. Its going to be nice padding my KRD for a few days before it catches on... I use all AR variants, still gonna keep using the breach even with a smaller clip, used the tac when it was 18 shot clip, used the burst sometimes just to keep reminding myself that it sucked. Now I get to use all 4 and think they're all pretty good. You know the SCR has its charge up shot, and a longer range, dont be such a baby like the tac is gonna be the FoTM overpowered 'the sky is falling' kind of over reaction that you're championing. And you know what else, nobody should be stupid enough to keep firing scrambler until it over heats, and if you did, I hope you killed the person you were shooting at because you're gonna need a break from being shot at. The TAC AR also lost a lot more ammo for its max ammo than the SCR did. Tac AR needed a bigger clip size, maybe it didnt need 24, I felt it needed 26, some people think 22 might be good. I don't chase FoTM, I use the AR, the PLC, the Ion pistol, as my main 3 weapons, stop acting like everyone who defends a change is a FoTM chaser you snot nosed brat! he is one of the best scrambler rifle users in this game and you act like he doesn't know what he is talking about in turn making yourself look dumber than a bag of hammers. O.o I'm not one of the best. I'm good with them, but not one of the best. There are others that would absolutely wreck me with a ScR. ScRs aren't even my favorite weapons in this game, just my favorite Rifle (although that title is being contested more and more by CRs every day). The only weapon I consider myself to be "one of the best" with anymore is the Plasma Cannon.
But that's not to say that I don't know the ScR in and put like the back of my hand. I've been using them for over a year and a half now as my workhorse weapon.
Please, make my Opus pretty...
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CUSE WarLord
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
266
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Posted - 2014.12.18 19:11:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:CUSE WarLord wrote:Banjo Robertson wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Banjo Robertson wrote:Boo Frickin Hoo I'm glad to see you've found the new FotM as well. Its going to be nice padding my KRD for a few days before it catches on... I use all AR variants, still gonna keep using the breach even with a smaller clip, used the tac when it was 18 shot clip, used the burst sometimes just to keep reminding myself that it sucked. Now I get to use all 4 and think they're all pretty good. You know the SCR has its charge up shot, and a longer range, dont be such a baby like the tac is gonna be the FoTM overpowered 'the sky is falling' kind of over reaction that you're championing. And you know what else, nobody should be stupid enough to keep firing scrambler until it over heats, and if you did, I hope you killed the person you were shooting at because you're gonna need a break from being shot at. The TAC AR also lost a lot more ammo for its max ammo than the SCR did. Tac AR needed a bigger clip size, maybe it didnt need 24, I felt it needed 26, some people think 22 might be good. I don't chase FoTM, I use the AR, the PLC, the Ion pistol, as my main 3 weapons, stop acting like everyone who defends a change is a FoTM chaser you snot nosed brat! he is one of the best scrambler rifle users in this game and you act like he doesn't know what he is talking about in turn making yourself look dumber than a bag of hammers. O.o I'm not one of the best. I'm good with them, but not one of the best. There are others that would absolutely wreck me with a ScR. ScRs aren't even my favorite weapons in this game, just my favorite Rifle (although that title is being contested more and more by CRs every day). The only weapon I consider myself to be "one of the best" with anymore is the Plasma Cannon. But that's not to say that I don't know the ScR in and put like the back of my hand. I've been using them for over a year and a half now as my workhorse weapon. the reason i say this is you were the first person i encountered a long time ago that destroyed me with a scrambler rifle. i have found much love and respect for the skill it takes to use this weapon when fighting against skilled opponents. amarr assault is my suit of choice now and i feel that bad players that stand still in gun fights have cryed for this glorious weapon to be nerfed or caldari scout scubs who just want to see the gun removed from the game. in my testing with the rifle after the patch i can live with the clip nerf but to i would like to see some kick removed making it more accurate and a true skill based marksmane rifle.
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Banjo Robertson
Random Gunz RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.12.19 02:49:00 -
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CUSE WarLord wrote:Banjo Robertson wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Banjo Robertson wrote:Boo Frickin Hoo I'm glad to see you've found the new FotM as well. Its going to be nice padding my KRD for a few days before it catches on... I use all AR variants, still gonna keep using the breach even with a smaller clip, used the tac when it was 18 shot clip, used the burst sometimes just to keep reminding myself that it sucked. Now I get to use all 4 and think they're all pretty good. You know the SCR has its charge up shot, and a longer range, dont be such a baby like the tac is gonna be the FoTM overpowered 'the sky is falling' kind of over reaction that you're championing. And you know what else, nobody should be stupid enough to keep firing scrambler until it over heats, and if you did, I hope you killed the person you were shooting at because you're gonna need a break from being shot at. The TAC AR also lost a lot more ammo for its max ammo than the SCR did. Tac AR needed a bigger clip size, maybe it didnt need 24, I felt it needed 26, some people think 22 might be good. I don't chase FoTM, I use the AR, the PLC, the Ion pistol, as my main 3 weapons, stop acting like everyone who defends a change is a FoTM chaser you snot nosed brat! he is one of the best scrambler rifle users in this game and you act like he doesn't know what he is talking about in turn making yourself look dumber than a bag of hammers.
I wouldnt expect someone from KEQ to understand, but if you know who 'the best' is with each weapon, you have no life worth living and are dumber than everyone else in all the ways that matter. |
CUSE WarLord
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.12.19 06:46:00 -
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in my testing tonight in PC i found the TAC AR to be way better then the scrambler rifle. i could even chop heavys down very fast with the TAC ARin the city if i was useing the scrambler rifle i would just overheat and get blaped. on paper stats never tell the whole story but the damage profile makes the AR tops for killing all enemy types. |
Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD RUST415
540
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Posted - 2014.12.19 08:16:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Banjo Robertson wrote:Boo Frickin Hoo I'm glad to see you've found the new FotM as well. Its going to be nice padding my KRD for a few days before it catches on...
That's the problem with the majority of the guys here. Jumping from rifle to rifle worrying about your kd.
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD RUST415
540
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Posted - 2014.12.19 08:18:00 -
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Lol scrambler kick
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD RUST415
540
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Posted - 2014.12.19 08:26:00 -
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Scrambler has Been on Alpha mode for months! One weapon performs better, and everyone wants to jump off a cliff?! The lot of you are just mad that you all respec'd to Amarr assault and scrambler rifle cuz it was OP, and now there's a rifle that can compete. Everybody acts as if it's some kind of sin for gallente wea pony to be good. You been crying about the breach for months for no reason, and now you crying about the tacAR? It's been trash for months! It was virtually unused! Sure fotm players are gonna flock to it, but that doesn't make it OP. That just makes them groupies lol!
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Sequal's Back
Les Desanusseurs
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Posted - 2014.12.19 09:03:00 -
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ScR can charge shots and thus do a great burst of damages even at long range. It's very useful against rooftop campers or hidding targets in general. The Tac AR is fine now, but it doesn't have that burst ability.
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Insufficient Data
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
78
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Posted - 2014.12.19 12:47:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:An ScR without overheat is just asking to become FotM. Its happened before, and its happening again. With the same weapon. Or were you not here during the reign of the TacAR in 1.0-1.1? They were the only rifle anyone used.
The current TacAR has almost the exact same stats as the ones in 1.0-1.1, and that's pretty damning.
Oh god I remember the Tac-514 days with the Calgistics and 1H3K Allotek flux nades. It was horrible compared to the flaylock use.
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