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Timtron Victory
Tech Guard
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.12.17 18:12:00 -
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I have 5 operation and 2 proficiency but I cant seem to shoot anything thats more than 2m in front of me but I am getting whacked by other shotgunners when I am more than 2m away. Am I missing something? Let me in on the secret please
Proud Christian
Jesus Loves You
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Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
1253
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Posted - 2014.12.17 18:14:00 -
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If you're using a Breach Shotgun, stop.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
6690
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Posted - 2014.12.17 18:14:00 -
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Its a matter of experience and skill.
I tried it once, and I was awful with it.
I will stick to my knives.
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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sir RAVEN WING
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
1983
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Posted - 2014.12.17 18:15:00 -
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Get real close and blap them.
Wait for someone to hack a nearby object (10 - 20m away) to blap them.
Flank and blap
It's much harder than most will think. Well with a Militia Shotgun and STD Calscout it is. :p
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Timtron Victory
Tech Guard
RISE of LEGION
101
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Posted - 2014.12.17 18:35:00 -
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haha but the real pros have chased me down with a shotgun and killed me, usually a militia shotgun in an advanced or proto Gallente
Proud Christian
Jesus Loves You
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Pushing Charlie
Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries
517
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Posted - 2014.12.17 18:43:00 -
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Shoot the things
May we never forget his sacrifice
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
5144
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Posted - 2014.12.17 18:47:00 -
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Get them in center circle.
Shoot within 5m, if target leaves, switch to sidearm. |
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken
Going for the gold
428
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Posted - 2014.12.17 19:00:00 -
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IIRC I once got 42 kills with a militia shotgun on a mlt min light frame with 2 mlt extenders and 2 mlt kin cats.
I may not have a mic, but trust me, you NEED me in your squad if you want to win.
When I'm on a roll, I'm unstoppable.
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Luna McDuffing
COALICION LATINA
Smart Deploy
123
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Posted - 2014.12.17 19:08:00 -
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The shotgun is a tool that requires patience. You have to outflank your enemy and wait for the right opportunity to strike. It has taken me a long time to go from God awful to sucky. With the shotgun speed is your friend and by extension the kinkats are your friend. Also profile dampening is also your friend. |
Timtron Victory
Tech Guard
RISE of LEGION
101
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Posted - 2014.12.17 19:28:00 -
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With my Amarr scout, I will just stick to my breach pistol
Proud Christian
Jesus Loves You
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Vesta Opalus
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
256
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Posted - 2014.12.17 19:51:00 -
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Timtron Victory wrote:I have 5 operation and 2 proficiency but I cant seem to shoot anything thats more than 2m in front of me but I am getting whacked by other shotgunners when I am more than 2m away. Am I missing something? Let me in on the secret please
The shotgun is alot like the HMG, where you think its shooting out in a big spread, but the reality is once they get more than a few meters from you you need to actually aim because the vast majority of your damage actually is going out in a very small cone in the center of your reticle.
It makes aiming the shotgun at ~10 meters or so a pretty iffy proposition.
Try aiming more carefully when shooting at longer ranges, or carry an SMG or scrambler or whatever sidearm to finish people off.
Also theres almost always the option to just disengage and come back when conditions are more favorable. |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1980
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Posted - 2014.12.17 19:53:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Get real close and blap them.
Wait for someone to hack a nearby object (10 - 20m away) to blap them.
Flank and blap
It's much harder than most will think. Well with a Militia Shotgun and STD Calscout it is. :p
Mlt shotgun is still easy mode.
Delt for CPM2
CPM1 MISSION : FAILED
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
General Tso's Alliance
332
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Posted - 2014.12.17 19:57:00 -
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I just recently decided to get he shotgun on a whim. I figured out the secrets to using it very quickly too >.>
I'll drop ya one tip though, quick scope.
G.L.O.R.Y Soldier,
I'm that Amarr heavy you warn your team about <3
-Heavy/Logi/Assault/Scout-
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Ku Shala
The Generals
1078
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Posted - 2014.12.17 20:00:00 -
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jump and aim down towards their face or shoot for the red star
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Caldari Loyalist
*Assault -Logistics-Sentinal-Scout-Commando Allround CK-0
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
20300
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Posted - 2014.12.17 20:08:00 -
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:If you're using a Breach Shotgun, stop.
Gospel truth.
Sometimes, one just has an overwhelming urge to throw a potato at someone.
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Mejt0
Fat'Kids are Hard to Kidnap
590
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Posted - 2014.12.17 20:22:00 -
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Use normal SG and shoot reds within 10meters.
On laggy maps, SG has big detection issues. That may be your problem.
Caldari Loyalist
Markiplier fan.
Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
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Shutter Fly
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
472
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Posted - 2014.12.17 21:18:00 -
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The biggest thing: DO NOT TRUST THE RETICULE.
The fixed circle and animation give the illusion that the SG has a wide, cone shaped spread, but it doesn't. It is actually more of a cylinder, without much dispersion. Because of this, as someone mentioned previously, your aim actually has to be much more precise as you get further away. The circle represents the area that the shotgun spreads at optimum range (2-5m), any further than that and the area of actual damage quickly becomes much smaller than the circle. |
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
6447
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Posted - 2014.12.17 22:06:00 -
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It's a matter of connection. Some people can easily be shotgunned while others can stand still and take 8 shots to the back, then turn around and kill you.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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Timtron Victory
Tech Guard
RISE of LEGION
102
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Posted - 2014.12.18 23:05:00 -
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Thank you all but you did not specifically say where to aim. The head?
Proud Christian
Jesus Loves You
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
733
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Posted - 2014.12.18 23:09:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:Get real close and blap them.
Wait for someone to hack a nearby object (10 - 20m away) to blap them.
Flank and blap
It's much harder than most will think. Well with a Militia Shotgun and STD Calscout it is. :p Mlt shotgun is still easy mode.
I know that's right, I've got a militia amarr light suit with a militia shotgun and militia kincats etc. that I use for the sole purpose of blapping people. Fit only costs me 1.4k, but I have a militia armor rep and militia light damage mod blueprint on it as well. |
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
733
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Posted - 2014.12.18 23:09:00 -
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Timtron Victory wrote:Thank you all but you did not specifically say where to aim. The head?
Center mass, it's a shotgun. Only aim for the head if they are unaware of your presence and standing still. |
neausea 1987
1.U.P
Capital Punishment.
213
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Posted - 2014.12.18 23:13:00 -
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line them in the middle of the circle then shoot shoot shoot, the damage will be reduced but as long as you line them up in the middle of the circle they will get hurt. you also have to factor in their shield vs armor ratio+ range. because i played since open beta and as of late i noticed people killing me and ranges i know were impossible before so now i do the same . SEE LEARN ADAPT also buff my breach just a lil.
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Hynox Xitio
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1891
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Posted - 2014.12.19 00:38:00 -
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"Point towards enemy" typically works pretty well for me.
Sometimes I have trouble hitting the R1 button though.
The horror! The horror!
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Spaceman-Rob
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
652
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Posted - 2014.12.19 00:52:00 -
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Shoot them in the back, if they happen to still be alive by the time they have managed to turn around to confront you, jump! And shoot whilst in the air, when you land on your feet shoot again. If their not dead by this point I don't know what to tell you. |
Operative 1125 Lokaas
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
648
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Posted - 2014.12.19 01:31:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Its a matter of experience and skill.
I tried it once, and I was awful with it.
I will stick to my knives.
It's a matter of lag.
Boycott Black Thursday!
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3186
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Posted - 2014.12.19 01:53:00 -
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Run a low HP suit, no cloak.
Git gud at aiming.
?
Profit.
Seriously though, if the match hit detection is off, don't use it. Its really a terrible weapon that really only works well for campy scrubs, and punishes mediocre players, while highly rewarding very skilled ones.
When you use it, don't strafe like you have a rifle.
Jump in the air only when you're within 5m of the target,and line up a headshot. With hit detection the way it is, you need that HS multiplier.
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3186
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Posted - 2014.12.19 01:54:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Timtron Victory wrote:Thank you all but you did not specifically say where to aim. The head? Center mass, it's a shotgun. Only aim for the head if they are unaware of your presence and standing still.
....Dont listen to him.
He has 0 idea what he is talking about.
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3186
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Posted - 2014.12.19 01:55:00 -
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:IIRC I once got 42 kills with a militia shotgun on a mlt min light frame with 2 mlt extenders and 2 mlt kin cats.
58 in battle academy on my tanker alt bro 
Battle academy doesn't count.
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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Timtron Victory
Tech Guard
RISE of LEGION
102
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Posted - 2014.12.19 02:47:00 -
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Hit detection and lag is why I dropped the weapon but now I can kill everyone but heavies with just a sidearm. I am actually now good, its high time I become immortal haha
Proud Christian
Jesus Loves You
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Poncho Polous
Titans of Phoenix
668
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Posted - 2014.12.19 03:05:00 -
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Luna McDuffing wrote:The shotgun is a tool that requires patience. You have to outflank your enemy and wait for the right opportunity to strike. It has taken me a long time to go from God awful to sucky. With the shotgun speed is your friend and by extension the kinkats are your friend. Also profile dampening is also your friend.
I find you just have to really learn to pick your battles. Most of the time when I die in a scout, it's cause i flank an enemy, and they JUST barely escape with a little life, and I get baited into chasing them into a wall of heavies.
Like others said, wait for your opportunity. KinKats and profile dampening are an easy way to out flank your enemy, but running a cloak, kin kats and profile dampeners obviously leaves you quite weak in face to face combat.
One of the best pieces of advice I can give to a scout if your running solo is at the very start of the map, run out and place unorthodox uplinks in hard to find areas that give you the ability to spawn in good flanking positions as the map continues.
Other than that it comes down to a sense of tactical awareness I feel like. Flank. Don't be seen. Get decent with a ranged secondary (I like the breach sub to pair with shotty).
Titans of Phoenix > Director > WE DA BUUUUSSSS!
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