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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
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Posted - 2014.12.14 00:41:00 -
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Silver Strike44 wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:people are missing the point. we are meant to be mercs earning isk yet a large portion of the playerbase plays for a huge isk loss every match and complains that they don't get enough isk rewards for the amount of kills or wp they acquire. fact is they are not playing to the reward which in a pub match is around 200k-500k isk.
i always leave a match isk positive every time. i'm not chasing profit. i'm sticking to the match boundaries. this is because i am less concerned about being the top killer/WP and more concerned with trying to win the match. winning the match by default i.e purposely trying to clone out the other team so you dont have to put any effort into the battle is a **** poor effort at a win.
besides i am not trying to remove kdr. i want it replaced on the end of battle report with isk lost/killed as the primary stat. i dont care if they put kdr elsewhere but they should shrink it down to minimise its importance and isk loss shoved in everyones faces to show them how good/bad they truly are. I think you are the one missing the point. People are trying to play the game the way they like playing it, no the way others think they should play it.
im not telling people not to play how they want. i just want them to know just how good or bad they are playing while hiding behind that KDR smokescreen
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
General Tso's Alliance
3900
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Posted - 2014.12.14 00:55:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:Silver Strike44 wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:people are missing the point. we are meant to be mercs earning isk yet a large portion of the playerbase plays for a huge isk loss every match and complains that they don't get enough isk rewards for the amount of kills or wp they acquire. fact is they are not playing to the reward which in a pub match is around 200k-500k isk.
i always leave a match isk positive every time. i'm not chasing profit. i'm sticking to the match boundaries. this is because i am less concerned about being the top killer/WP and more concerned with trying to win the match. winning the match by default i.e purposely trying to clone out the other team so you dont have to put any effort into the battle is a **** poor effort at a win.
besides i am not trying to remove kdr. i want it replaced on the end of battle report with isk lost/killed as the primary stat. i dont care if they put kdr elsewhere but they should shrink it down to minimise its importance and isk loss shoved in everyones faces to show them how good/bad they truly are. I think you are the one missing the point. People are trying to play the game the way they like playing it, no the way others think they should play it. im not telling people not to play how they want. i just want them to know just how good or bad they are playing while hiding behind that KDR smokescreen
Lmao^ you just gave yourself away. You have a bad KDR so you want no one to have one so you won't feel bad anymore. I have friends with a 1 or lower KDR and I love playing with them Idgaf if you're good if you're a try hard or just want to have fun. I can fit in with any group and I enjoy it. We throw ISK around cuz we can we earned it and we have our suits fitted the way we like from PC not cuz we're hiding behind our KDR. We earned it.
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1730
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Posted - 2014.12.14 01:07:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:Silver Strike44 wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:people are missing the point. we are meant to be mercs earning isk yet a large portion of the playerbase plays for a huge isk loss every match and complains that they don't get enough isk rewards for the amount of kills or wp they acquire. fact is they are not playing to the reward which in a pub match is around 200k-500k isk.
i always leave a match isk positive every time. i'm not chasing profit. i'm sticking to the match boundaries. this is because i am less concerned about being the top killer/WP and more concerned with trying to win the match. winning the match by default i.e purposely trying to clone out the other team so you dont have to put any effort into the battle is a **** poor effort at a win.
besides i am not trying to remove kdr. i want it replaced on the end of battle report with isk lost/killed as the primary stat. i dont care if they put kdr elsewhere but they should shrink it down to minimise its importance and isk loss shoved in everyones faces to show them how good/bad they truly are. I think you are the one missing the point. People are trying to play the game the way they like playing it, no the way others think they should play it. im not telling people not to play how they want. i just want them to know just how good or bad they are playing while hiding behind that KDR smokescreen Lmao^ you just gave yourself away. You have a bad KDR so you want no one to have one so you won't feel bad anymore. I have friends with a 1 or lower KDR and I love playing with them Idgaf if you're good if you're a try hard or just want to have fun. I can fit in with any group and I enjoy it. We throw ISK around cuz we can we earned it and we have our suits fitted the way we like from PC not cuz we're hiding behind our KDR. We earned it.
i don't care about kdr as its a meaningless stat. i have revived far more players than i have ever killed, i have repaired far more than i have ever been damaged. my uplinks are imo 95% effective and my hives 100% effective, i save players more isk than i ever lose, i hack objectives and installation when i can. these are all important stats and imo more so than kdr yet all but the healing done are counted in the end of battle report and even that is not recorded outside of the fight yet kdr, a stat which is only relevant to some is the primary measuring stat on the end of battle report for success.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
3564
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Posted - 2014.12.14 01:13:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:
i don't care about kdr as its a meaningless stat. i have revived far more players than i have ever killed, i have repaired far more than i have ever been damaged. my uplinks are imo 95% effective and my hives 100% effective, i save players more isk than i ever lose, i hack objectives and installation when i can. these are all important stats and imo more so than kdr yet all but the healing done are counted in the end of battle report and even that is not recorded outside of the fight yet kdr, a stat which is only relevant to some is the primary measuring stat on the end of battle report for success.
I do all of those things that you are concerned about. When I'm pubbing, I do whatever it takes to win....I believe K/D is important but I'm not hard to find. I'm usually the first one at objectives. I spam links, I carry nanite injectors. I don't camp high ground and stay up there. I play to win but I also would like to know how well I did as far as gunning people down as well.
The same people that are KDR whores who hand around high ground and are scared to go near objectives are probably the same ones worried about ISK loss.
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1731
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Posted - 2014.12.14 01:30:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:
i don't care about kdr as its a meaningless stat. i have revived far more players than i have ever killed, i have repaired far more than i have ever been damaged. my uplinks are imo 95% effective and my hives 100% effective, i save players more isk than i ever lose, i hack objectives and installation when i can. these are all important stats and imo more so than kdr yet all but the healing done are counted in the end of battle report and even that is not recorded outside of the fight yet kdr, a stat which is only relevant to some is the primary measuring stat on the end of battle report for success.
I do all of those things that you are concerned about. When I'm pubbing, I do whatever it takes to win....I believe K/D is important but I'm not hard to find. I'm usually the first one at objectives. I spam links, I carry nanite injectors. I don't camp high ground and stay up there. I play to win but I also would like to know how well I did as far as gunning people down as well. The same people that are KDR whores who hand around high ground and are scared to go near objectives are probably the same ones worried about ISK loss.
the point i'm trying to make is some people are content with spamming as much isk as possible to get a high kdr, as far as the end of battle report is concerned they did really good. but behind the that high kdr and wp is a player who has lost millions of isk in a 200-500k isk fight and thinking they are awesome for doing it yet other players are spending much less and getting those same kdr's against them. pub matches is ripe with this. i see it all the time. i can walk away from a fight with a 200k isk profit knowing for fact that often the top player on the enemy side lost multiple 100k+ isk suits and left with a massively negative profit. this is not just pointless statistics this is vital statistics for finding not just good players but great players and gaining a more accurate view of performance for everyone
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Jay Westen
Sky-FIRE
134
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Posted - 2014.12.14 05:18:00 -
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I dunno if it's the lack of nicotine in my system, or what but this erks me.
Isk destroyed vs Isk lost, isn't that the same as kdr, you're just changing the numbers that are reported...
Second, what about us logibros and it sounds like you're a logibro. You don't want Isk lost to be reported, considering we carry more gear into the battle than anyone else and get shot a lot. Plus I only skimmed your post since it's typically wall o text I didn't see if there was a stat for us. Like Isk saved vs Isk lost. If KDR is so useless then ignore it. Christ almighty.
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1731
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Posted - 2014.12.14 05:42:00 -
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Jay Westen wrote:I dunno if it's the lack of nicotine in my system, or what but this erks me.
Isk destroyed vs Isk lost, isn't that the same as kdr, you're just changing the numbers that are reported...
Second, what about us logibros and it sounds like you're a logibro. You don't want Isk lost to be reported, considering we carry more gear into the battle than anyone else and get shot a lot. Plus I only skimmed your post since it's typically wall o text I didn't see if there was a stat for us. Like Isk saved vs Isk lost. If KDR is so useless then ignore it. Christ almighty.
Tl;Dr less QQ, more pew pew.
no its different. 10 losses for me could be 100k isk and the same 10 losses for the enemy could be 1 mil isk or vise versa and varying levels of cost. 1 loss for 1 is different than 1 loss for the other and the same goes for kills.
how many times have you taken out a full proto with a basic/standard weapon and thought wow thats going to hurt or been on the other end and thought no way that killed me. you cannot tell any of that from kdr. it gives more false readings than any other stat as you can steal kills easily without doing much damage.
yes im a logi but i'm not defenceless. this is just a start. as i said in another post there are other important stats also which are important and for us these would come into account. but ultimately you would still run a isk gain/loss as part of your performance. your not going to run 1mil isk worth of gear for a pub thats only going to reward half as much at best outcome. ultimately to know how much you killed and saved will give you a better performance report than the current kdr only system in place
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1731
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Posted - 2014.12.14 06:05:00 -
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ok lets get a few things straight here
no i do not want to remove kdr. i want it de-emphasised as the defining stat for performance in the end of battle report. instead i want isk won/lost/saved etc and other stats added which have a far more accurate reading of how the battle went than kdr which is inaccurate as it counts player kills and not clone kills.
kdr is only relevant to killers so no kills and you cannot be compared with anyone else while isk loss/win is relevant to everyone and can be compared on many levels
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