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sir RAVEN WING Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 1671	Posted - 2014.12.13 09:49:00 - [1] - Quote Well now I regret coming here. *I will leave you drowning in your own blood.* Then I will terminate your clone With a potato
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1094	Posted - 2014.12.13 10:21:00 - [2] - Quote The talent in the war room, like the talent in the game itself, is but a pale shadow of its former self.
Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 642	Posted - 2014.12.13 11:20:00 - [3] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: The talent in the war room, like the talent in the game itself, is but a pale shadow of its former self. Or the game is fine. And the skill of the players in it has dramatically increased. And the massive gap on skill points has changed. You should come play again. I could use a massdriver on the cat walks over looking Alpha. Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
RogueTrooper 2000AD Neckbeard Absolution 401	Posted - 2014.12.13 13:18:00 - [4] - Quote K den. U jus not gonna answer? K den.
RogueTrooper 2000AD Neckbeard Absolution 401	Posted - 2014.12.13 13:19:00 - [5] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: The talent in the war room, like the talent in the game itself, is but a pale shadow of its former self. Cool story. Iv seen loads of pro dusters in other games and they are plain crap. K den. U jus not gonna answer? K den.
BLUNT SMKR Ahrendee Mercenaries 64	Posted - 2014.12.13 16:02:00 - [6] - Quote Roman837 wrote: And the skill of the players in it has dramatically increased. False TeamWork>KDR I Don't Know Why They Grinning Them Suckers Ain't Winning I Could Tell You That Right From The Beginning
SoTa PoP Titans of Phoenix 5327	Posted - 2014.12.13 17:28:00 - [7] - Quote BLUNT SMKR wrote: Roman837 wrote: And the skill of the players in it has dramatically increased. False Not false, compared to 6 months ago there are a lot more players who can compete in PC. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Back and Forth 6424	Posted - 2014.12.13 17:47:00 - [8] - Quote Roman837 wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: The talent in the war room, like the talent in the game itself, is but a pale shadow of its former self. Or the game is fine. And the skill of the players in it has dramatically increased. And the massive gap on skill points has changed. You should come play again. I could use a massdriver on the cat walks over looking Alpha. That's my cat walk, my name is written on it. ))<>(( [Event]Dust Hunger Games PC, ISK,EVE, Corp Services
Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 643	Posted - 2014.12.13 17:49:00 - [9] - Quote Just because people were good in the game 2 years ago and we're the first go figure out how to play it and optimize on their huge skill point lead. Does not mean they would be able to compete now. Had they stayed in the game and adapted...maybe. don't think that is true. Come play in our pcs. For or against. The talent that is out there is amazing. Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
Ace Boone Capital Acquisitions LLC 572	Posted - 2014.12.13 17:54:00 - [10] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: The talent in the war room, like the talent in the game itself, is but a pale shadow of its former self. Most of those "pros" just had a lot of SP and took advantage of a ludicrously OP fits. It wasn't even really about how talented you are. I've played with a lot of the "pros" on other games like Destiny, BF or CS:GO and they just plain suck. It was easy before because of the SP gaps of players, and you could just bulldoze through a squad with the most OP weapons in the game. Those same "pros" that still play all got caught up to by a lot of the old hardcore community they used to wreck. I know from personal experience. Btw, PSN: TerrifiedPotato if anyone wants to play some BF4 or GTA V, lemme know Only loyal to the republic. I'm nothing more than bittervet without a PS3.

SoTa PoP Titans of Phoenix 5329	Posted - 2014.12.13 18:00:00 - [11] - Quote Once RE's get that timer increased I'll be back to wrecking you guys like blue berries. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
XxWarlordxX97 BurgezzE.T.F 4401	Posted - 2014.12.13 18:25:00 - [12] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Well now I regret coming here. Its story time with Roman,Sota pop, and Rampage, plus maybe Regnum I don't rage,I get even Send isk please
RogueTrooper 2000AD Neckbeard Absolution 405	Posted - 2014.12.13 18:58:00 - [13] - Quote XxWarlordxX97 wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Well now I regret coming here. Its story time with Roman,Sota pop, and Rampage, plus maybe Regnum I have a story for you. Once upon a ting, k den. The end. Do not think about bending k den. There is no k den. U jus not gonna answer?, k den.
Shepherd Grey Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 161	Posted - 2014.12.13 21:31:00 - [14] - Quote Ace Boone wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: The talent in the war room, like the talent in the game itself, is but a pale shadow of its former self. Most of those "pros" just had a lot of SP and took advantage of a ludicrously OP fits. It wasn't even really about how talented you are. I've played with a lot of the "pros" on other games like Destiny, BF or CS:GO and they just plain suck. It was easy before because of the SP gaps of players, and you could just bulldoze through a squad with the most OP weapons in the game. Those same "pros" that still play all got caught up to by a lot of the old hardcore community they used to wreck. I know from personal experience. Btw, PSN: TerrifiedPotato if anyone wants to play some BF4 or GTA V, lemme know ^ This. I watched that video ydubbs posted in another thread, talking about the "greatest vets" on both sides. Watched the entire video....guys were good AT BEST, certainly not the greatest ever. OP fits galore, no strategy, no logistics, no teamwork, total **** show. Fiddle, you were running around in a min logi with MD and got pwnt terribly. Vets lost the sp advantage, subsequently plateaued, and left due to their lack of OP in reality (some got burnt out, and other reasons, I understand). Get over it, either you're good now or you never were. We're still here, ready for the challenge....certainly not to say in any way "well, we're the best because no one else is here anymore," honestly I wish those guys were still here so we could test this theory. They were good in their respective times. Simply a judgement call based on what I've seen for 18 months. Kalante, Arirana, Espeon, etc. still running around pulling 5.0's daily - no one can argue those guys don't have talent, STILL. TO. THIS. DAY. Go into a pub blunt, many that you thought were scrubs long ago have caught up to you.
Ace Boone Capital Acquisitions LLC 574	Posted - 2014.12.14 00:43:00 - [15] - Quote Shepherd Grey wrote: Ace Boone wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: The talent in the war room, like the talent in the game itself, is but a pale shadow of its former self. Most of those "pros" just had a lot of SP and took advantage of a ludicrously OP fits. It wasn't even really about how talented you are. I've played with a lot of the "pros" on other games like Destiny, BF or CS:GO and they just plain suck. It was easy before because of the SP gaps of players, and you could just bulldoze through a squad with the most OP weapons in the game. Those same "pros" that still play all got caught up to by a lot of the old hardcore community they used to wreck. I know from personal experience. Btw, PSN: TerrifiedPotato if anyone wants to play some BF4 or GTA V, lemme know ^ This. I watched that video ydubbs posted in another thread, talking about the "greatest vets" on both sides. Watched the entire video....guys were good AT BEST, certainly not the greatest ever. OP fits galore, no strategy, no logistics, no teamwork, total **** show. Fiddle, you were running around in a min logi with MD and got pwnt terribly. Vets lost the sp advantage, subsequently plateaued, and left due to their lack of OP in reality (some got burnt out, and other reasons, I understand). Get over it, either you're good now or you never were. We're still here, ready for the challenge....certainly not to say in any way "well, we're the best because no one else is here anymore," honestly I wish those guys were still here so we could test this theory. They were good in their respective times. Simply a judgement call based on what I've seen for 18 months. Kalante, Arirana, Espeon, etc. still running around pulling 5.0's daily - no one can argue those guys don't have talent, STILL. TO. THIS. DAY. Go into a pub blunt, many that you thought were scrubs long ago have caught up to you. The SP advantage is gone, the go-to OP fit is gone, and the real pros are still posting awesome numbers but the SP-crutch users are all gone. The whole hardcore community is pretty much leveled at this point. There are some standouts, there are some better teams, but when it boils down to it, it's about experience more than anything. and tell reget to send me that PS3!!! Only loyal to the republic. I'm nothing more than bittervet without a PS3.
BLUNT SMKR Ahrendee Mercenaries 64	Posted - 2014.12.14 00:58:00 - [16] - Quote Shepherd Grey wrote: Go into a pub blunt, many that you thought were scrubs long ago have caught up to you. Since I've been back all I do is pub an haven't seen much improvements from redots or bluedots. Can't wait to start pcing again cause maybe thats were the competition is. But as of rite now I'm not impressed. N from what I've seen the good players now are still the same as before maybe a couple people steped up but watever. Haven't been back long though so I'll keep n eye out for these good players lol. Plus I never had a lot of sp as some of the vets. Once u break like 10 mill or watever it takes to get core skills, protosuit , n a proto gun u should be able to compete with anyone TeamWork>KDR I Don't Know Why They Grinning Them Suckers Ain't Winning I Could Tell You That Right From The Beginning
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3566	Posted - 2014.12.14 02:30:00 - [17] - Quote Shepherd Grey wrote: Ace Boone wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: The talent in the war room, like the talent in the game itself, is but a pale shadow of its former self. Most of those "pros" just had a lot of SP and took advantage of a ludicrously OP fits. It wasn't even really about how talented you are. I've played with a lot of the "pros" on other games like Destiny, BF or CS:GO and they just plain suck. It was easy before because of the SP gaps of players, and you could just bulldoze through a squad with the most OP weapons in the game. Those same "pros" that still play all got caught up to by a lot of the old hardcore community they used to wreck. I know from personal experience. Btw, PSN: TerrifiedPotato if anyone wants to play some BF4 or GTA V, lemme know ^ This. I watched that video ydubbs posted in another thread, talking about the "greatest vets" on both sides. Watched the entire video....guys were good AT BEST, certainly not the greatest ever. OP fits galore, no strategy, no logistics, no teamwork, total **** show. Fiddle, you were running around in a min logi with MD and got pwnt terribly. Vets lost the sp advantage, subsequently plateaued, and left due to their lack of OP in reality (some got burnt out, and other reasons, I understand). Get over it, either you're good now or you never were. We're still here, ready for the challenge....certainly not to say in any way "well, we're the best because no one else is here anymore," honestly I wish those guys were still here so we could test this theory. They were good in their respective times. Simply a judgement call based on what I've seen for 18 months. Kalante, Arirana, Espeon, etc. still running around pulling 5.0's daily - no one can argue those guys don't have talent, STILL. TO. THIS. DAY. Go into a pub blunt, many that you thought were scrubs long ago have caught up to you. You have to understand that those were the early days of pc. We were all still figuring out best strategies at the time. There was a time when everyone would just sprint to the city. People didn't call dropships or whatever system a corp chooses to use for initial spawn. Corps used to use snipers to guard homepoints and take players off of high ground. Who snipes in pcs anymore? ADS weren't used when they were implemented in the game, etc. As the game changed and everyone gained more experience, everyone adapted. I'm absolutely certain that players in those videos would have adapted. There is no reason to believe that they wouldn't. > Check RND out here
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3566	Posted - 2014.12.14 02:32:00 - [18] - Quote Ace Boone wrote: Shepherd Grey wrote: Ace Boone wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: The talent in the war room, like the talent in the game itself, is but a pale shadow of its former self. Most of those "pros" just had a lot of SP and took advantage of a ludicrously OP fits. It wasn't even really about how talented you are. I've played with a lot of the "pros" on other games like Destiny, BF or CS:GO and they just plain suck. It was easy before because of the SP gaps of players, and you could just bulldoze through a squad with the most OP weapons in the game. Those same "pros" that still play all got caught up to by a lot of the old hardcore community they used to wreck. I know from personal experience. Btw, PSN: TerrifiedPotato if anyone wants to play some BF4 or GTA V, lemme know ^ This. I watched that video ydubbs posted in another thread, talking about the "greatest vets" on both sides. Watched the entire video....guys were good AT BEST, certainly not the greatest ever. OP fits galore, no strategy, no logistics, no teamwork, total **** show. Fiddle, you were running around in a min logi with MD and got pwnt terribly. Vets lost the sp advantage, subsequently plateaued, and left due to their lack of OP in reality (some got burnt out, and other reasons, I understand). Get over it, either you're good now or you never were. We're still here, ready for the challenge....certainly not to say in any way "well, we're the best because no one else is here anymore," honestly I wish those guys were still here so we could test this theory. They were good in their respective times. Simply a judgement call based on what I've seen for 18 months. Kalante, Arirana, Espeon, etc. still running around pulling 5.0's daily - no one can argue those guys don't have talent, STILL. TO. THIS. DAY. Go into a pub blunt, many that you thought were scrubs long ago have caught up to you. The SP advantage is gone, the go-to OP fit is gone, and the real pros are still posting awesome numbers but the SP-crutch users are all gone. The whole hardcore community is pretty much leveled at this point. There are some standouts, there are some better teams, but when it boils down to it, it's about experience more than anything. and tell reget to send me that PS3!!! everyone that pc'ed had around the same amount of sp. There was no real advantage. Most of the players, if not all had proto weapons and gear. There were only a few standouts that may have mad much more than everyone else but everyone was on the same level, generally speaking. > Check RND out here
STB 4 LIFE Spyders Inc. 0	Posted - 2014.12.14 02:45:00 - [19] - Quote Roman...I would be willing to bet the title to my car, that if you put the best of Dust today, against the best of Dust past, that the old vets would smmmaaaassshhh these noobs. There still noobs, they just have more skills to be noobier. lol.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3567	Posted - 2014.12.14 02:52:00 - [20] - Quote STB 4 LIFE wrote: Roman...I would be willing to bet the title to my car, that if you put the best of Dust today, against the best of Dust past, that the old vets would smmmaaaassshhh these noobs. There still noobs, they just have more skills to be noobier. lol. sounds like a good challenge....what would the 16 man rosters look like with the players of old and caught up sp players of today?? > Check RND out here

Heimdallr69 Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 3904	Posted - 2014.12.14 03:19:00 - [21] - Quote Shepherd Grey wrote: Ace Boone wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: The talent in the war room, like the talent in the game itself, is but a pale shadow of its former self. Most of those "pros" just had a lot of SP and took advantage of a ludicrously OP fits. It wasn't even really about how talented you are. I've played with a lot of the "pros" on other games like Destiny, BF or CS:GO and they just plain suck. It was easy before because of the SP gaps of players, and you could just bulldoze through a squad with the most OP weapons in the game. Those same "pros" that still play all got caught up to by a lot of the old hardcore community they used to wreck. I know from personal experience. Btw, PSN: TerrifiedPotato if anyone wants to play some BF4 or GTA V, lemme know ^ This. I watched that video ydubbs posted in another thread, talking about the "greatest vets" on both sides. Watched the entire video....guys were good AT BEST, certainly not the greatest ever. OP fits galore, no strategy, no logistics, no teamwork, total **** show. Fiddle, you were running around in a min logi with MD and got pwnt terribly. Vets lost the sp advantage, subsequently plateaued, and left due to their lack of OP in reality (some got burnt out, and other reasons, I understand). Get over it, either you're good now or you never were. We're still here, ready for the challenge....certainly not to say in any way "well, we're the best because no one else is here anymore," honestly I wish those guys were still here so we could test this theory. They were good in their respective times. Simply a judgement call based on what I've seen for 18 months. Kalante, Arirana, Espeon, etc. still running around pulling 5.0's daily - no one can argue those guys don't have talent, STILL. TO. THIS. DAY. Go into a pub blunt, many that you thought were scrubs long ago have caught up to you. Ari is good, didn't used to believe the Kalante hype but he's beat me in every 1v1 so now I believe in him. BonBon is an alt of an Imp. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution 1234	Posted - 2014.12.14 03:43:00 - [22] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: That's my cat walk, my name is written on it. Viktor don't make me BRN-50 you again for ringing for KEQ. Also you should explain to me what happened to that Caracal the other day. When you said "I don't want to talk about it" I knew it'd be a great story. More like Titans of Penis amirite? Come play a better game.
Quasar Storm Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 366	Posted - 2014.12.14 03:46:00 - [23] - Quote Some fries muthafuka. ADS & Tank pilot. Drifting on *Stormy* Seas. The "Eh" Team
Ace Boone Capital Acquisitions LLC 575	Posted - 2014.12.14 06:46:00 - [24] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: everyone that pc'ed had around the same amount of sp. There was no real advantage. Most of the players, if not all had proto weapons and gear. There were only a few standouts that may have mad much more than everyone else but everyone was on the same level, generally speaking. Having a proto suit isn't the equalizer in DUST. One person can have a protosuit that has 350 base eHP versus another that has 450+ base ehp due to dropsuit upgrades. That's always been DUSTs niche, is passive skills that better the vet versus the rookie. I remember those days. Getting stomped by ERA because I just didn't have enough HP, or I would get blasted by a rail on the catwalks or bombarded by a python (Sir Snugglz is talented tho) or completely wrecked by a gal logi, stacking reps with triage hives and strafing around with a double-damage modded rail rifle or BCR. I caught up to those guys and now post better or similar numbers. It's because the SP gap closed, the game got balanced and I got more experienced. You believe there wasn't a huge skill gap and all the talented players just left, I believe there was one and more talented players have showed up but have yet to be recognized. But bahh, who am I kidding, half of you will be on PS4 with me in a year or two anyways <3 Only loyal to the republic. I'm nothing more than bittervet without a PS3.
Ace Boone Capital Acquisitions LLC 575	Posted - 2014.12.14 06:48:00 - [25] - Quote STB 4 LIFE wrote: Roman...I would be willing to bet the title to my car, that if you put the best of Dust today, against the best of Dust past, that the old vets would smmmaaaassshhh these noobs. There still noobs, they just have more skills to be noobier. lol. Like right now? They'd be rusty as sh*t. I mean, 2 months of getting back into it maybe, but the game has changed. Only loyal to the republic. I'm nothing more than bittervet without a PS3.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3568	Posted - 2014.12.14 09:43:00 - [26] - Quote Ace Boone wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: everyone that pc'ed had around the same amount of sp. There was no real advantage. Most of the players, if not all had proto weapons and gear. There were only a few standouts that may have mad much more than everyone else but everyone was on the same level, generally speaking. Having a proto suit isn't the equalizer in DUST. One person can have a protosuit that has 350 base eHP versus another that has 450+ base ehp due to dropsuit upgrades. That's always been DUSTs niche, is passive skills that better the vet versus the rookie. I remember those days. Getting stomped by ERA because I just didn't have enough HP, or I would get blasted by a rail on the catwalks or bombarded by a python (Sir Snugglz is talented tho) or completely wrecked by a gal logi, stacking reps with triage hives and strafing around with a double-damage modded rail rifle or BCR. I caught up to those guys and now post better or similar numbers. It's because the SP gap closed, the game got balanced and I got more experienced. You believe there wasn't a huge skill gap and all the talented players just left, I believe there was one and more talented players have showed up but have yet to be recognized. But bahh, who am I kidding, half of you will be on PS4 with me in a year or two anyways <3 ERA? The video that I linked was way before ERA existed. That was the beginning of pc.....there was no real sp gap between players then. Most of the players that "pc'ed" at the time were around since the last wipe and before. > Check RND out here
Shepherd Grey Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 161	Posted - 2014.12.14 10:06:00 - [27] - Quote dubbs im not saying in that pc one or more of the guys versing each other had more sp than another. I'm saying, THOSE guys in that pc had 6.0+ k/d's on the leaderboards and 50k more kills than 90% of the playerbase. And everyone boasts them as being the elite. You're right, people in that match probably barely had a suit or vehicle, 1 or 2 roles at most, and fought well. My argument is, the guys you see that don't play anymore...the beta vets with insane k/d's w/l's....if they started at the exact time I did (uprising), would not have such numbers. I spent 6 months getting crushed by them, CRUSHED, but I had what? A dragonfly suit and 5 mil sp? Stood no chance. I believe that, you bring those same teams back right now - give them however much time they need to unrust - and have pc's verse any of the top 10 weekly corps right now. It would shock you to believe the "no-namers" on the newer side that I'd place my bet on. When bf3 came out, the clan I formed absolutely demolished the game for about 3-4 months...I took a break, everyone caught up. We became mortal. Just look at our corp k/d or w/l. Terrible comparatively to the elite corps of old. I remember our stats being below 1.0 for both, having our entire corp membership post-uprising players. I would bet every isk I have that we could match up to any one corp, not 16 elite ringer teams mind you....the actual corp itself. Hell OH has twice as good stats as us, we went 50/50 with them at their peak. FPS games are half talent, half knowledge of the game mechanics itself (maps/weaponry etc.). In the future, I see an FPS where professional matches are on unique maps no one has ever seen before - talent/teamwork will prevail.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3568	Posted - 2014.12.14 12:41:00 - [28] - Quote Shepherd Grey wrote: dubbs im not saying in that pc one or more of the guys versing each other had more sp than another. I'm saying, THOSE guys in that pc had 6.0+ k/d's on the leaderboards and 50k more kills than 90% of the playerbase. And everyone boasts them as being the elite. You're right, people in that match probably barely had a suit or vehicle, 1 or 2 roles at most, and fought well. My argument is, the guys you see that don't play anymore...the beta vets with insane k/d's w/l's....if they started at the exact time I did (uprising), would not have such numbers. I spent 6 months getting crushed by them, CRUSHED, but I had what? A dragonfly suit and 5 mil sp? Stood no chance. I believe that, you bring those same teams back right now - give them however much time they need to unrust - and have pc's verse any of the top 10 weekly corps right now. It would shock you to believe the "no-namers" on the newer side that I'd place my bet on. When bf3 came out, the clan I formed absolutely demolished the game for about 3-4 months...I took a break, everyone caught up. We became mortal. Just look at our corp k/d or w/l. Terrible comparatively to the elite corps of old. I remember our stats being below 1.0 for both, having our entire corp membership post-uprising players. I would bet every isk I have that we could match up to any one corp, not 16 elite ringer teams mind you....the actual corp itself. Hell OH has twice as good stats as us, we went 50/50 with them at their peak. FPS games are half talent, half knowledge of the game mechanics itself (maps/weaponry etc.). In the future, I see an FPS where professional matches are on unique maps no one has ever seen before - talent/teamwork will prevail. Thing is....our last wipe was a week or so before the open beta, which was about a month before release? The sp gap from those that started when it released to closed vets couldn't have been that far off. It isn't like we had 20M sp when Uprising dropped. I would say that we had experience, which is probably more valuable than the sp gap. You also have to recall how those Imps got those high KDs. The best killers used to group with ambush and they would never leave each other's side....never! I remember being on their side one game and the entire squad moved when protoman moved. They used to boast 20KDs on the ground. Now, I'm not saying the guys today aren't talented (god knows with all of the mechanics like cloaking, ADS, logi wp spam, etc ther is opportunity for all to look good).....I'm just saying that sp wasn't the dominating factor for why they were successful. > Check RND out here
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3568	Posted - 2014.12.14 13:00:00 - [29] - Quote But let's do this.....if you had to create a 16 of the best talent today that caught up in sp..who would they be? And put vthem vs a list of guys from old. My list would be something like this (I won't put any Ahrendee guys like demz, Kono, etc cause it'll look biased) 1. Regnyum 2. Protoman 3. Reflex 4. Kalante 5. Calamity Jane 6. Annie Oakley 1. Exmaple (as a heavy) 2. Alldin Kan (as a heavy) 3. Osgr Valdez 4. FizzyCandy (what was his dust ID again) 5. Mark Burkhart 6. Tryhard 514 1. TheLegend 2. Kcon 3. Snugglez (I think he was around in closed beta) 4. Deranged Disaster. That's a scary roster...and there are so many more. Is there 16 players that caught up in sp that could match this roster? > Check RND out here
LionTurtle91 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 313	Posted - 2014.12.14 13:12:00 - [30] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: 4. FizzyCandy (what was his dust ID again) Kreayshawn Coruscanti

Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3568	Posted - 2014.12.14 13:27:00 - [31] - Quote LionTurtle91 wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: 4. FizzyCandy (what was his dust ID again) Kreayshawn Coruscanti Fixed...thx. And I'm not even sure if he likes me but I have to give credit where it's due. He probably gets my vote for best AR in dust > Check RND out here
LionTurtle91 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 314	Posted - 2014.12.14 14:10:00 - [32] - Quote What would the cut off be to be an "Old" Player? Mhmmhhhh newer KEQ guys id put against the vets. Timbo101 as an Assault, hes been around as long as I have but didn't get the PC time till later on. LionsFan as ADS. DEATH SURRONDS as a Tanker, well he was VC first. Have to throw Dust User in there too since he's the best GC I've seen. That's all I can think of, this is considering skill, communication and ability to handle adversity which a lot of Old Players couldn't.
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution 3179	Posted - 2014.12.14 14:36:00 - [33] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: But let's do this.....if you had to create a 16 of the best talent today that caught up in sp..who would they be? And put vthem vs a list of guys from old. My list would be something like this (I won't put any Ahrendee guys like demz, Kono, etc cause it'll look biased) 1. Regnyum 2. Protoman 3. Reflex 4. Kalante 5. Calamity Jane 6. Annie Oakley 1. Exmaple (as a heavy) 2. Alldin Kan (as a heavy) 3. Osgr Valdez 4. Kreyshawn Corusanti 5. James5995 6. Tryhard 514 1. TheLegend 2. Kcon 3. Snugglez (I think he was around in closed beta) 4. Deranged Disaster. That's a scary roster...and there are so many more. Is there 16 players that caught up in sp that could match this roster? Is there? Could someone make a list of them? This would be fun to see. God and Empress kill me, I'm a level three forum warrior.
Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 646	Posted - 2014.12.14 14:59:00 - [34] - Quote I can name a few players that could easily be able to compete vs those players. 1, Xdestruction 2, Cavani1EE7 3, Senator Snipe 4. Jade tech. 5. Derrith. 6. Airiana 7. Yoshi 8. Solar 9. Espeon. 10. Devin Xer 11. Fusion Commander. 12. Viktor. 13. Chet Chews. 14. TTW. 15. Parthok. 16. Kalante still plays so he's on our team Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 646	Posted - 2014.12.14 15:01:00 - [35] - Quote If there was a 17th spot. I'd want to FC for that team lol. Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
Heimdallr69 Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 3909	Posted - 2014.12.14 15:51:00 - [36] - Quote When I was in TP I had like 9m sp haha that sucked. I think at the time a lot of guys had around 20+. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Hynox Xitio Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1879	Posted - 2014.12.14 16:00:00 - [37] - Quote We're still better than GD though. The horror! The horror! ( -íº -£-û -íº)
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1097	Posted - 2014.12.14 16:35:00 - [38] - Quote Shepherd Grey wrote: Ace Boone wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: The talent in the war room, like the talent in the game itself, is but a pale shadow of its former self. Most of those "pros" just had a lot of SP and took advantage of a ludicrously OP fits. It wasn't even really about how talented you are. I've played with a lot of the "pros" on other games like Destiny, BF or CS:GO and they just plain suck. It was easy before because of the SP gaps of players, and you could just bulldoze through a squad with the most OP weapons in the game. Those same "pros" that still play all got caught up to by a lot of the old hardcore community they used to wreck. I know from personal experience. Btw, PSN: TerrifiedPotato if anyone wants to play some BF4 or GTA V, lemme know ^ This. I watched that video ydubbs posted in another thread, talking about the "greatest vets" on both sides. Watched the entire video....guys were good AT BEST, certainly not the greatest ever. OP fits galore, no strategy, no logistics, no teamwork, total **** show. Fiddle, you were running around in a min logi with MD and got pwnt terribly. Vets lost the sp advantage, subsequently plateaued, and left due to their lack of OP in reality (some got burnt out, and other reasons, I understand). Get over it, either you're good now or you never were. We're still here, ready for the challenge....certainly not to say in any way "well, we're the best because no one else is here anymore," honestly I wish those guys were still here so we could test this theory. They were good in their respective times. Simply a judgement call based on what I've seen for 18 months. Kalante, Arirana, Espeon, etc. still running around pulling 5.0's daily - no one can argue those guys don't have talent, STILL. TO. THIS. DAY. Go into a pub blunt, many that you thought were scrubs long ago have caught up to you. You have no idea how bad the mass driver was at that point in the game's lifespan :/. I did get rocked K/D wise, but considering that's what I needed to do to try to help win the game, I don't think you really know what you are talking about. If I had to die 15 times to finally get a good spawn point in the city, I would do that every time. You weren't there. They were great shooters. Markof was probably their least talented guy there, and he was decent at worst. OP fits? Has anything changed even slightly in that regard? FOTM 514. No strategy? IMPs were notorious for having no strategy. My team was cobbled together by Quickgloves... No Logistics? I may have been a terrible shot, but I was a fantastic logi at that point. I didn't belong in that match, but there was a reason why I was there. No teamwork? You should have seen Cubs AO/CJ doing work on the outside points in those games. Admittedly, IMPs kinda sucked at large team battles, but if they could ever make it into a series of 3v3s or 2v2s, they would usually kick ass. Ill agree that Kalante and Espeon are both quite talented. You at least know something.
RogueTrooper 2000AD Neckbeard Absolution 406	Posted - 2014.12.14 16:47:00 - [39] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: Shepherd Grey wrote: Ace Boone wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: The talent in the war room, like the talent in the game itself, is but a pale shadow of its former self. Most of those "pros" just had a lot of SP and took advantage of a ludicrously OP fits. It wasn't even really about how talented you are. I've played with a lot of the "pros" on other games like Destiny, BF or CS:GO and they just plain suck. It was easy before because of the SP gaps of players, and you could just bulldoze through a squad with the most OP weapons in the game. Those same "pros" that still play all got caught up to by a lot of the old hardcore community they used to wreck. I know from personal experience. Btw, PSN: TerrifiedPotato if anyone wants to play some BF4 or GTA V, lemme know ^ This. I watched that video ydubbs posted in another thread, talking about the "greatest vets" on both sides. Watched the entire video....guys were good AT BEST, certainly not the greatest ever. OP fits galore, no strategy, no logistics, no teamwork, total **** show. Fiddle, you were running around in a min logi with MD and got pwnt terribly. Vets lost the sp advantage, subsequently plateaued, and left due to their lack of OP in reality (some got burnt out, and other reasons, I understand). Get over it, either you're good now or you never were. We're still here, ready for the challenge....certainly not to say in any way "well, we're the best because no one else is here anymore," honestly I wish those guys were still here so we could test this theory. They were good in their respective times. Simply a judgement call based on what I've seen for 18 months. Kalante, Arirana, Espeon, etc. still running around pulling 5.0's daily - no one can argue those guys don't have talent, STILL. TO. THIS. DAY. Go into a pub blunt, many that you thought were scrubs long ago have caught up to you. You have no idea how bad the mass driver was at that point in the game's lifespan :/. I did get rocked K/D wise, but considering that's what I needed to do to try to help win the game, I don't think you really know what you are talking about. If I had to die 15 times to finally get a good spawn point in the city, I would do that every time. You weren't there. They were great shooters. Markof was probably their least talented guy there, and he was decent at worst. OP fits? Has anything changed even slightly in that regard? FOTM 514. No strategy? IMPs were notorious for having no strategy. My team was cobbled together by Quickgloves... No Logistics? I may have been a terrible shot, but I was a fantastic logi at that point. I didn't belong in that match, but there was a reason why I was there. No teamwork? You should have seen Cubs AO/CJ doing work on the outside points in those games. Admittedly, IMPs kinda sucked at large team battles, but if they could ever make it into a series of 3v3s or 2v2s, they would usually kick ass. Ill agree that Kalante and Espeon are both quite talented. You at least know something. The MD has always been good. Maybe it was just you who didn't realise how bad you was back then?. K den. Do not try and bend the K den. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth. There is no k den.
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1097	Posted - 2014.12.14 17:03:00 - [40] - Quote RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: The MD has always been good. Maybe it was just you who didn't realise how bad you was back then?. K den. Incorrect. They nerfed the splash radius and damage of the mass driver significantly with Uprising 1.0. There were maybe 5 guys in all of PC that used it. Only thing less used was the laser rifle. And maybe the scrambler rifle, because it didn't exist yet. It was bad. Bad enough that I didn't bother with skilling into it after the post uprising respec. I took kin cats to 5 over rank 4 mass driver and it was the right call.

RogueTrooper 2000AD Neckbeard Absolution 408	Posted - 2014.12.14 17:08:00 - [41] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: The MD has always been good. Maybe it was just you who didn't realise how bad you was back then?. K den. Incorrect. They nerfed the splash radius and damage of the mass driver significantly with Uprising 1.0. There were maybe 5 guys in all of PC that used it. Only thing less used was the laser rifle. And maybe the scrambler rifle, because it didn't exist yet. Ah you mean because one guy with an md couldn't clear out 8 people in 3 shots so everyone ran to the next best thing?. So you couldn't just yolo Rambo anymore with it, it was significantly nerfed?. K den. Do not try and bend the K den. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth. There is no k den.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3572	Posted - 2014.12.14 18:41:00 - [42] - Quote Roman837 wrote: I can name a few players that could easily be able to compete vs those players. 1, Xdestruction 2, Cavani1EE7 3, Senator Snipe 4. Jade tech. 5. Derrith. 6. Airiana 7. Yoshi 8. Solar 9. Espeon. 10. Devin Xer 11. Fusion Commander. 12. Viktor. 13. Chet Chews. 14. TTW. 15. Parthok. 16. Kalante still plays so he's on our team Some of those players don't count....some of them were the ones that had the so-called sp advantage that guys were talking about. It's not a list of active vs inactive. But those who been around for this alleged sp advantage vs those who came late and caught in sp. Someone referred to them as "nonames." But just for the record, I still believe my list would best this 16 ;) > Check RND out here
Dust User KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1253	Posted - 2014.12.14 18:57:00 - [43] - Quote LionTurtle91 wrote: What would the cut off be to be an "Old" Player? Mhmmhhhh newer KEQ guys id put against the vets. Timbo101 as an Assault, hes been around as long as I have but didn't get the PC time till later on. He's the only guy with good enough gun game to match the talent on your list. LionsFan as ADS. DEATH SURRONDS as a Tanker, well he was VC first. Have to throw Dust User in there too since he's the best GC I've seen. That's all I can think of, this is considering skill, communication and ability to handle adversity which a lot of Old Players couldn't. Love you too, sweetness. CCP nerfed my like button again or I'd give you one.
B1ack ice Ancient Exiles. 437	Posted - 2014.12.14 19:17:00 - [44] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Well now I regret coming here. No. This is not the War Room. This is what I like to refer to as the Drama room. Where gamers of all ethnicity's, tryhards of every denomination, and scrubs of all shapes and sizes are free to cry wherever, whenever, and about whatever they like. No discrimination. If you are looking for fun times at the gay bar of video game forums, you have come to the right place my friend. Most of the people in here who talk ****... I've killed them. That's all you need to know. "Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience." -Mark Twain
sir RAVEN WING Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 1844	Posted - 2014.12.14 19:28:00 - [45] - Quote If I talked ** you could not say you have killed me. I'm not 'new' to the 'War Room', I've been floating around here for about a month now and I always make my way back to the locker room. I will leave you drowning in your own blood.** Then I will terminate your clone With a potato
B1ack ice Ancient Exiles. 437	Posted - 2014.12.14 20:01:00 - [46] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: If I talked **** you could not say you have killed me yet* I like how you put yet in there. Very diligent of you. It's only a matter of time. ;) "Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience." -Mark Twain
Immortal John Ripper 26554	Posted - 2014.12.14 20:26:00 - [47] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: If I talked **** you could not say you have killed me. I'm not 'new' to the 'War Room', I've been floating around here for about a month now and I always make my way back to the locker room. a month.. wow. You have seen alot of war room history. Definitely not new. Remember the old days when the war room was so awesome and active and the QQ and trolling were at an all time high?? Alt of Jadek. Anyone with less likes than me is not a forum warrior. Anyone with more likes than me is a forum warrior
RogueTrooper 2000AD Neckbeard Absolution 414	Posted - 2014.12.14 20:28:00 - [48] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: If I talked **** you could not say you have killed me. I'm not 'new' to the 'War Room', I've been floating around here for about a month now and I always make my way back to the locker room. They all float down here, all of them. And when you're down here with me, you'll float too. K den?. Do not try and bend the K den. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth. There is no k den.
Ace Boone Capital Acquisitions LLC 580	Posted - 2014.12.14 20:44:00 - [49] - Quote Roman837 wrote: I can name a few players that could easily be able to compete vs those players. 1, Xdestruction 2, Cavani1EE7 3, Senator Snipe 4. Jade tech. 5. Derrith. 6. Airiana 7. Yoshi 8. Solar 9. Espeon. 10. Devin Xer 11. Fusion Commander. 12. Viktor. 13. Chet Chews. 14. TTW. 15. Parthok. 16. Kalante still plays so he's on our team loldevin Only loyal to the republic. I'm nothing more than bittervet without a PS3.
Ace Boone Capital Acquisitions LLC 580	Posted - 2014.12.14 20:51:00 - [50] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Ace Boone wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: everyone that pc'ed had around the same amount of sp. There was no real advantage. Most of the players, if not all had proto weapons and gear. There were only a few standouts that may have mad much more than everyone else but everyone was on the same level, generally speaking. Having a proto suit isn't the equalizer in DUST. One person can have a protosuit that has 350 base eHP versus another that has 450+ base ehp due to dropsuit upgrades. That's always been DUSTs niche, is passive skills that better the vet versus the rookie. I remember those days. Getting stomped by ERA because I just didn't have enough HP, or I would get blasted by a rail on the catwalks or bombarded by a python (Sir Snugglz is talented tho) or completely wrecked by a gal logi, stacking reps with triage hives and strafing around with a double-damage modded rail rifle or BCR. I caught up to those guys and now post better or similar numbers. It's because the SP gap closed, the game got balanced and I got more experienced. You believe there wasn't a huge skill gap and all the talented players just left, I believe there was one and more talented players have showed up but have yet to be recognized. But bahh, who am I kidding, half of you will be on PS4 with me in a year or two anyways <3 ERA? The video that I linked was way before ERA existed. That was the beginning of pc.....there was no real sp gap between players then. Most of the players that "pc'ed" at the time were around since the last wipe and before. I was gonna mention getting killed by the Imperfects and others too, but I felt ERA was more relevant due to how recent it was. Only loyal to the republic. I'm nothing more than bittervet without a PS3.

Riptalis Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 132	Posted - 2014.12.14 22:17:00 - [51] - Quote I come here for the LOLZ, and most of the time I don't even know what people are talking about! Fun though Python pilot Logistics mk.0 Assault mk.0
sir RAVEN WING Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 1849	Posted - 2014.12.15 00:30:00 - [52] - Quote B1ack ice wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: If I talked **** you could not say you have killed me yet* I like how you put yet in there. Very diligent of you. It's only a matter of time. ;) I like how you added yet on there. It is easy to see that I never had yet in my sentence. It's a matter of time, yes I'm sure it is just a matter of time and server. I recently switched to the automatic server due to lag on other servers. Good luck killing me, you'll need it. Don't even try to use a heavy, I burn holes in them. Scouts die terrible bad and assault seem to be a bloody mess, of course that's from my ADV suit. You'll have a better chance against my proto (Which can run faster than my scout.) *I will leave you drowning in your own blood.* Then I will terminate your clone With a potato
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 3465	Posted - 2014.12.15 08:47:00 - [53] - Quote RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: The talent in the war room, like the talent in the game itself, is but a pale shadow of its former self. Cool story. Iv seen loads of pro dusters in other games and they are plain crap. K den. That's true... I'd not imagine most DUST players would be as good as you are at hello kitty island adventure... http://evil-guide.tripod.com/
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 3465	Posted - 2014.12.15 08:49:00 - [54] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: BLUNT SMKR wrote: Roman837 wrote: And the skill of the players in it has dramatically increased. False Not false, compared to 6 months ago there are a lot more players who can compete in PC. yeah I mean if I came back I might be able to do well in PCs now like SoTa... http://evil-guide.tripod.com/
SoTa PoP Titans of Phoenix 5371	Posted - 2014.12.15 08:59:00 - [55] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: BLUNT SMKR wrote: Roman837 wrote: And the skill of the players in it has dramatically increased. False Not false, compared to 6 months ago there are a lot more players who can compete in PC. yeah I mean if I came back I might be able to do well in PCs now like SoTa... Even if everyone quit this game and you were the last person in dust you still wouldn't be good enough to PC. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Immortal John Ripper 26592	Posted - 2014.12.15 09:20:00 - [56] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: BLUNT SMKR wrote: Roman837 wrote: And the skill of the players in it has dramatically increased. False Not false, compared to 6 months ago there are a lot more players who can compete in PC. yeah I mean if I came back I might be able to do well in PCs now like SoTa... LOL Alt of Jadek. Anyone with less likes than me is not a forum warrior. Anyone with more likes than me is a forum warrior
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Back and Forth 6444	Posted - 2014.12.15 10:35:00 - [57] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: That's my cat walk, my name is written on it. Viktor don't make me BRN-50 you again for ringing for KEQ. Also you should explain to me what happened to that Caracal the other day. When you said "I don't want to talk about it" I knew it'd be a great story. Lol I warped to a random planet and wanted to get eyes on the talwar fleet, So then i warped to the small at 100 and out of all the celestials in the system that red fleet bounces of the same planet and warp at the same range to the same plex, just did it a minute before me so when i warped to the plex at 100km i laned at 0 on top of them. I'm more of meant for range so i warped right on top of them and get rekt. ))<>(( [Event]Dust Hunger Games PC, ISK,EVE, Corp Services


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