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Ace Boone
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Posted - 2014.12.13 17:54:00 -
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Fiddlestaxp wrote:The talent in the war room, like the talent in the game itself, is but a pale shadow of its former self.
Most of those "pros" just had a lot of SP and took advantage of a ludicrously OP fits. It wasn't even really about how talented you are.
I've played with a lot of the "pros" on other games like Destiny, BF or CS:GO and they just plain suck. It was easy before because of the SP gaps of players, and you could just bulldoze through a squad with the most OP weapons in the game.
Those same "pros" that still play all got caught up to by a lot of the old hardcore community they used to wreck. I know from personal experience.
Btw, PSN: TerrifiedPotato
if anyone wants to play some BF4 or GTA V, lemme know
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I'm nothing more than bittervet without a PS3.
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Ace Boone
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Posted - 2014.12.14 00:43:00 -
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Shepherd Grey wrote:Ace Boone wrote:Fiddlestaxp wrote:The talent in the war room, like the talent in the game itself, is but a pale shadow of its former self. Most of those "pros" just had a lot of SP and took advantage of a ludicrously OP fits. It wasn't even really about how talented you are. I've played with a lot of the "pros" on other games like Destiny, BF or CS:GO and they just plain suck. It was easy before because of the SP gaps of players, and you could just bulldoze through a squad with the most OP weapons in the game. Those same "pros" that still play all got caught up to by a lot of the old hardcore community they used to wreck. I know from personal experience. Btw, PSN: TerrifiedPotato if anyone wants to play some BF4 or GTA V, lemme know ^ This. I watched that video ydubbs posted in another thread, talking about the "greatest vets" on both sides. Watched the entire video....guys were good AT BEST, certainly not the greatest ever. OP fits galore, no strategy, no logistics, no teamwork, total **** show. Fiddle, you were running around in a min logi with MD and got pwnt terribly. Vets lost the sp advantage, subsequently plateaued, and left due to their lack of OP in reality (some got burnt out, and other reasons, I understand). Get over it, either you're good now or you never were. We're still here, ready for the challenge....certainly not to say in any way "well, we're the best because no one else is here anymore," honestly I wish those guys were still here so we could test this theory. They were good in their respective times. Simply a judgement call based on what I've seen for 18 months. Kalante, Arirana, Espeon, etc. still running around pulling 5.0's daily - no one can argue those guys don't have talent, STILL. TO. THIS. DAY. Go into a pub blunt, many that you thought were scrubs long ago have caught up to you.
The SP advantage is gone, the go-to OP fit is gone, and the real pros are still posting awesome numbers but the SP-crutch users are all gone.
The whole hardcore community is pretty much leveled at this point. There are some standouts, there are some better teams, but when it boils down to it, it's about experience more than anything.
and tell reget to send me that PS3!!!
Only loyal to the republic.
I'm nothing more than bittervet without a PS3.
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Ace Boone
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Posted - 2014.12.14 06:46:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:
everyone that pc'ed had around the same amount of sp. There was no real advantage. Most of the players, if not all had proto weapons and gear. There were only a few standouts that may have mad much more than everyone else but everyone was on the same level, generally speaking.
Having a proto suit isn't the equalizer in DUST. One person can have a protosuit that has 350 base eHP versus another that has 450+ base ehp due to dropsuit upgrades. That's always been DUSTs niche, is passive skills that better the vet versus the rookie.
I remember those days. Getting stomped by ERA because I just didn't have enough HP, or I would get blasted by a rail on the catwalks or bombarded by a python (Sir Snugglz is talented tho) or completely wrecked by a gal logi, stacking reps with triage hives and strafing around with a double-damage modded rail rifle or BCR.
I caught up to those guys and now post better or similar numbers. It's because the SP gap closed, the game got balanced and I got more experienced. You believe there wasn't a huge skill gap and all the talented players just left, I believe there was one and more talented players have showed up but have yet to be recognized.
But bahh, who am I kidding, half of you will be on PS4 with me in a year or two anyways <3
Only loyal to the republic.
I'm nothing more than bittervet without a PS3.
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Ace Boone
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Posted - 2014.12.14 06:48:00 -
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STB 4 LIFE wrote: Roman...I would be willing to bet the title to my car, that if you put the best of Dust today, against the best of Dust past, that the old vets would smmmaaaassshhh these noobs. There still noobs, they just have more skills to be noobier. lol.
Like right now? They'd be rusty as sh*t.
I mean, 2 months of getting back into it maybe, but the game has changed.
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I'm nothing more than bittervet without a PS3.
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Ace Boone
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Posted - 2014.12.14 20:44:00 -
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Roman837 wrote:I can name a few players that could easily be able to compete vs those players.
1, Xdestruction
2, Cavani1EE7
3, Senator Snipe
4. Jade tech.
5. Derrith.
6. Airiana
7. Yoshi
8. Solar
9. Espeon.
10. Devin Xer
11. Fusion Commander.
12. Viktor.
13. Chet Chews.
14. TTW.
15. Parthok.
16. Kalante still plays so he's on our team
loldevin
Only loyal to the republic.
I'm nothing more than bittervet without a PS3.
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Ace Boone
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Posted - 2014.12.14 20:51:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Ace Boone wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:
everyone that pc'ed had around the same amount of sp. There was no real advantage. Most of the players, if not all had proto weapons and gear. There were only a few standouts that may have mad much more than everyone else but everyone was on the same level, generally speaking.
Having a proto suit isn't the equalizer in DUST. One person can have a protosuit that has 350 base eHP versus another that has 450+ base ehp due to dropsuit upgrades. That's always been DUSTs niche, is passive skills that better the vet versus the rookie. I remember those days. Getting stomped by ERA because I just didn't have enough HP, or I would get blasted by a rail on the catwalks or bombarded by a python (Sir Snugglz is talented tho) or completely wrecked by a gal logi, stacking reps with triage hives and strafing around with a double-damage modded rail rifle or BCR. I caught up to those guys and now post better or similar numbers. It's because the SP gap closed, the game got balanced and I got more experienced. You believe there wasn't a huge skill gap and all the talented players just left, I believe there was one and more talented players have showed up but have yet to be recognized. But bahh, who am I kidding, half of you will be on PS4 with me in a year or two anyways <3 ERA? The video that I linked was way before ERA existed. That was the beginning of pc.....there was no real sp gap between players then. Most of the players that "pc'ed" at the time were around since the last wipe and before.
I was gonna mention getting killed by the Imperfects and others too, but I felt ERA was more relevant due to how recent it was.
Only loyal to the republic.
I'm nothing more than bittervet without a PS3.
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