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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2014.12.14 13:27:00 -
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LionTurtle91 wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:
4. FizzyCandy (what was his dust ID again)
Kreayshawn Coruscanti
Fixed...thx.
And I'm not even sure if he likes me but I have to give credit where it's due. He probably gets my vote for best AR in dust
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LionTurtle91
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
314
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Posted - 2014.12.14 14:10:00 -
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What would the cut off be to be an "Old" Player?
Mhmmhhhh newer KEQ guys id put against the vets.
Timbo101 as an Assault, hes been around as long as I have but didn't get the PC time till later on.
LionsFan as ADS.
DEATH SURRONDS as a Tanker, well he was VC first.
Have to throw Dust User in there too since he's the best GC I've seen.
That's all I can think of, this is considering skill, communication and ability to handle adversity which a lot of Old Players couldn't.
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Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
3179
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Posted - 2014.12.14 14:36:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:But let's do this.....if you had to create a 16 of the best talent today that caught up in sp..who would they be? And put vthem vs a list of guys from old.
My list would be something like this (I won't put any Ahrendee guys like demz, Kono, etc cause it'll look biased)
1. Regnyum
2. Protoman
3. Reflex
4. Kalante
5. Calamity Jane
6. Annie Oakley
1. Exmaple (as a heavy)
2. Alldin Kan (as a heavy)
3. Osgr Valdez
4. Kreyshawn Corusanti
5. James5995
6. Tryhard 514
1. TheLegend
2. Kcon
3. Snugglez (I think he was around in closed beta)
4. Deranged Disaster.
That's a scary roster...and there are so many more. Is there 16 players that caught up in sp that could match this roster?
Is there? Could someone make a list of them? This would be fun to see.
God and Empress kill me, I'm a level three forum warrior.
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
646
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Posted - 2014.12.14 14:59:00 -
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I can name a few players that could easily be able to compete vs those players.
1, Xdestruction
2, Cavani1EE7
3, Senator Snipe
4. Jade tech.
5. Derrith.
6. Airiana
7. Yoshi
8. Solar
9. Espeon.
10. Devin Xer
11. Fusion Commander.
12. Viktor.
13. Chet Chews.
14. TTW.
15. Parthok.
16. Kalante still plays so he's on our team
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
646
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Posted - 2014.12.14 15:01:00 -
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If there was a 17th spot. I'd want to FC for that team lol.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
General Tso's Alliance
3909
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Posted - 2014.12.14 15:51:00 -
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When I was in TP I had like 9m sp haha that sucked. I think at the time a lot of guys had around 20+.
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Hynox Xitio
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1879
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Posted - 2014.12.14 16:00:00 -
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We're still better than GD though.
The horror! The horror!
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Fiddlestaxp
TeamPlayers
Negative-Feedback
1097
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Posted - 2014.12.14 16:35:00 -
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Shepherd Grey wrote:Ace Boone wrote:Fiddlestaxp wrote:The talent in the war room, like the talent in the game itself, is but a pale shadow of its former self. Most of those "pros" just had a lot of SP and took advantage of a ludicrously OP fits. It wasn't even really about how talented you are. I've played with a lot of the "pros" on other games like Destiny, BF or CS:GO and they just plain suck. It was easy before because of the SP gaps of players, and you could just bulldoze through a squad with the most OP weapons in the game. Those same "pros" that still play all got caught up to by a lot of the old hardcore community they used to wreck. I know from personal experience. Btw, PSN: TerrifiedPotato if anyone wants to play some BF4 or GTA V, lemme know ^ This. I watched that video ydubbs posted in another thread, talking about the "greatest vets" on both sides. Watched the entire video....guys were good AT BEST, certainly not the greatest ever. OP fits galore, no strategy, no logistics, no teamwork, total **** show. Fiddle, you were running around in a min logi with MD and got pwnt terribly. Vets lost the sp advantage, subsequently plateaued, and left due to their lack of OP in reality (some got burnt out, and other reasons, I understand). Get over it, either you're good now or you never were. We're still here, ready for the challenge....certainly not to say in any way "well, we're the best because no one else is here anymore," honestly I wish those guys were still here so we could test this theory. They were good in their respective times. Simply a judgement call based on what I've seen for 18 months. Kalante, Arirana, Espeon, etc. still running around pulling 5.0's daily - no one can argue those guys don't have talent, STILL. TO. THIS. DAY. Go into a pub blunt, many that you thought were scrubs long ago have caught up to you.
You have no idea how bad the mass driver was at that point in the game's lifespan :/. I did get rocked K/D wise, but considering that's what I needed to do to try to help win the game, I don't think you really know what you are talking about. If I had to die 15 times to finally get a good spawn point in the city, I would do that every time. You weren't there. They were great shooters. Markof was probably their least talented guy there, and he was decent at worst.
OP fits? Has anything changed even slightly in that regard? FOTM 514.
No strategy? IMPs were notorious for having no strategy. My team was cobbled together by Quickgloves...
No Logistics? I may have been a terrible shot, but I was a fantastic logi at that point. I didn't belong in that match, but there was a reason why I was there.
No teamwork? You should have seen Cubs AO/CJ doing work on the outside points in those games. Admittedly, IMPs kinda sucked at large team battles, but if they could ever make it into a series of 3v3s or 2v2s, they would usually kick ass.
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RogueTrooper 2000AD
Neckbeard Absolution
406
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Posted - 2014.12.14 16:47:00 -
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Fiddlestaxp wrote:Shepherd Grey wrote:Ace Boone wrote:Fiddlestaxp wrote:The talent in the war room, like the talent in the game itself, is but a pale shadow of its former self. Most of those "pros" just had a lot of SP and took advantage of a ludicrously OP fits. It wasn't even really about how talented you are. I've played with a lot of the "pros" on other games like Destiny, BF or CS:GO and they just plain suck. It was easy before because of the SP gaps of players, and you could just bulldoze through a squad with the most OP weapons in the game. Those same "pros" that still play all got caught up to by a lot of the old hardcore community they used to wreck. I know from personal experience. Btw, PSN: TerrifiedPotato if anyone wants to play some BF4 or GTA V, lemme know ^ This. I watched that video ydubbs posted in another thread, talking about the "greatest vets" on both sides. Watched the entire video....guys were good AT BEST, certainly not the greatest ever. OP fits galore, no strategy, no logistics, no teamwork, total **** show. Fiddle, you were running around in a min logi with MD and got pwnt terribly. Vets lost the sp advantage, subsequently plateaued, and left due to their lack of OP in reality (some got burnt out, and other reasons, I understand). Get over it, either you're good now or you never were. We're still here, ready for the challenge....certainly not to say in any way "well, we're the best because no one else is here anymore," honestly I wish those guys were still here so we could test this theory. They were good in their respective times. Simply a judgement call based on what I've seen for 18 months. Kalante, Arirana, Espeon, etc. still running around pulling 5.0's daily - no one can argue those guys don't have talent, STILL. TO. THIS. DAY. Go into a pub blunt, many that you thought were scrubs long ago have caught up to you. You have no idea how bad the mass driver was at that point in the game's lifespan :/. I did get rocked K/D wise, but considering that's what I needed to do to try to help win the game, I don't think you really know what you are talking about. If I had to die 15 times to finally get a good spawn point in the city, I would do that every time. You weren't there. They were great shooters. Markof was probably their least talented guy there, and he was decent at worst. OP fits? Has anything changed even slightly in that regard? FOTM 514. No strategy? IMPs were notorious for having no strategy. My team was cobbled together by Quickgloves... No Logistics? I may have been a terrible shot, but I was a fantastic logi at that point. I didn't belong in that match, but there was a reason why I was there. No teamwork? You should have seen Cubs AO/CJ doing work on the outside points in those games. Admittedly, IMPs kinda sucked at large team battles, but if they could ever make it into a series of 3v3s or 2v2s, they would usually kick ass. Ill agree that Kalante and Espeon are both quite talented. You at least know something.
The MD has always been good. Maybe it was just you who didn't realise how bad you was back then?.
K den.
Do not try and bend the K den. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth.
There is no k den.
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Fiddlestaxp
TeamPlayers
Negative-Feedback
1097
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Posted - 2014.12.14 17:03:00 -
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RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:
The MD has always been good. Maybe it was just you who didn't realise how bad you was back then?.
K den.
Incorrect. They nerfed the splash radius and damage of the mass driver significantly with Uprising 1.0. There were maybe 5 guys in all of PC that used it. Only thing less used was the laser rifle. And maybe the scrambler rifle, because it didn't exist yet.
It was bad. Bad enough that I didn't bother with skilling into it after the post uprising respec. I took kin cats to 5 over rank 4 mass driver and it was the right call. |
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RogueTrooper 2000AD
Neckbeard Absolution
408
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Posted - 2014.12.14 17:08:00 -
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Fiddlestaxp wrote:RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:
The MD has always been good. Maybe it was just you who didn't realise how bad you was back then?.
K den.
Incorrect. They nerfed the splash radius and damage of the mass driver significantly with Uprising 1.0. There were maybe 5 guys in all of PC that used it. Only thing less used was the laser rifle. And maybe the scrambler rifle, because it didn't exist yet.
Ah you mean because one guy with an md couldn't clear out 8 people in 3 shots so everyone ran to the next best thing?.
So you couldn't just yolo Rambo anymore with it, it was significantly nerfed?.
K den.
Do not try and bend the K den. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth.
There is no k den.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
3572
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Posted - 2014.12.14 18:41:00 -
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Roman837 wrote:I can name a few players that could easily be able to compete vs those players.
1, Xdestruction
2, Cavani1EE7
3, Senator Snipe
4. Jade tech.
5. Derrith.
6. Airiana
7. Yoshi
8. Solar
9. Espeon.
10. Devin Xer
11. Fusion Commander.
12. Viktor.
13. Chet Chews.
14. TTW.
15. Parthok.
16. Kalante still plays so he's on our team
Some of those players don't count....some of them were the ones that had the so-called sp advantage that guys were talking about. It's not a list of active vs inactive. But those who been around for this alleged sp advantage vs those who came late and caught in sp. Someone referred to them as "nonames."
But just for the record, I still believe my list would best this 16 ;)
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Dust User
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
1253
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Posted - 2014.12.14 18:57:00 -
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LionTurtle91 wrote:What would the cut off be to be an "Old" Player?
Mhmmhhhh newer KEQ guys id put against the vets.
Timbo101 as an Assault, hes been around as long as I have but didn't get the PC time till later on. He's the only guy with good enough gun game to match the talent on your list.
LionsFan as ADS.
DEATH SURRONDS as a Tanker, well he was VC first.
Have to throw Dust User in there too since he's the best GC I've seen.
That's all I can think of, this is considering skill, communication and ability to handle adversity which a lot of Old Players couldn't.
Love you too, sweetness.
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B1ack ice
Ancient Exiles.
437
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Posted - 2014.12.14 19:17:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Well now I regret coming here.
No. This is not the War Room. This is what I like to refer to as the Drama room. Where gamers of all ethnicity's, tryhards of every denomination, and scrubs of all shapes and sizes are free to cry wherever, whenever, and about whatever they like. No discrimination. If you are looking for fun times at the gay bar of video game forums, you have come to the right place my friend. Most of the people in here who talk ****... I've killed them. That's all you need to know.
"Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience." -Mark Twain
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sir RAVEN WING
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
1844
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Posted - 2014.12.14 19:28:00 -
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If I talked **** you could not say you have killed me.
I'm not 'new' to the 'War Room', I've been floating around here for about a month now and I always make my way back to the locker room.
I will leave you drowning in your own blood.
Then I will terminate your clone
With a potato
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B1ack ice
Ancient Exiles.
437
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Posted - 2014.12.14 20:01:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:If I talked **** you could not say you have killed me yet*
I like how you put yet in there. Very diligent of you. It's only a matter of time. ;)
"Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience." -Mark Twain
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Immortal John Ripper
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Posted - 2014.12.14 20:26:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:If I talked **** you could not say you have killed me.
I'm not 'new' to the 'War Room', I've been floating around here for about a month now and I always make my way back to the locker room.
a month.. wow. You have seen alot of war room history. Definitely not new. Remember the old days when the war room was so awesome and active and the QQ and trolling were at an all time high??
Alt of Jadek.
Anyone with less likes than me is not a forum warrior. Anyone with more likes than me is a forum warrior
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RogueTrooper 2000AD
Neckbeard Absolution
414
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Posted - 2014.12.14 20:28:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:If I talked **** you could not say you have killed me.
I'm not 'new' to the 'War Room', I've been floating around here for about a month now and I always make my way back to the locker room.
They all float down here, all of them.
And when you're down here with me, you'll float too.
K den?.
Do not try and bend the K den. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth.
There is no k den.
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Ace Boone
Capital Acquisitions LLC
580
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Posted - 2014.12.14 20:44:00 -
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Roman837 wrote:I can name a few players that could easily be able to compete vs those players.
1, Xdestruction
2, Cavani1EE7
3, Senator Snipe
4. Jade tech.
5. Derrith.
6. Airiana
7. Yoshi
8. Solar
9. Espeon.
10. Devin Xer
11. Fusion Commander.
12. Viktor.
13. Chet Chews.
14. TTW.
15. Parthok.
16. Kalante still plays so he's on our team
loldevin
Only loyal to the republic.
I'm nothing more than bittervet without a PS3.
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Ace Boone
Capital Acquisitions LLC
580
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Posted - 2014.12.14 20:51:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Ace Boone wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:
everyone that pc'ed had around the same amount of sp. There was no real advantage. Most of the players, if not all had proto weapons and gear. There were only a few standouts that may have mad much more than everyone else but everyone was on the same level, generally speaking.
Having a proto suit isn't the equalizer in DUST. One person can have a protosuit that has 350 base eHP versus another that has 450+ base ehp due to dropsuit upgrades. That's always been DUSTs niche, is passive skills that better the vet versus the rookie. I remember those days. Getting stomped by ERA because I just didn't have enough HP, or I would get blasted by a rail on the catwalks or bombarded by a python (Sir Snugglz is talented tho) or completely wrecked by a gal logi, stacking reps with triage hives and strafing around with a double-damage modded rail rifle or BCR. I caught up to those guys and now post better or similar numbers. It's because the SP gap closed, the game got balanced and I got more experienced. You believe there wasn't a huge skill gap and all the talented players just left, I believe there was one and more talented players have showed up but have yet to be recognized. But bahh, who am I kidding, half of you will be on PS4 with me in a year or two anyways <3 ERA? The video that I linked was way before ERA existed. That was the beginning of pc.....there was no real sp gap between players then. Most of the players that "pc'ed" at the time were around since the last wipe and before.
I was gonna mention getting killed by the Imperfects and others too, but I felt ERA was more relevant due to how recent it was.
Only loyal to the republic.
I'm nothing more than bittervet without a PS3.
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Riptalis
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
132
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Posted - 2014.12.14 22:17:00 -
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I come here for the LOLZ, and most of the time I don't even know what people are talking about! Fun though
Python pilot
Logistics mk.0
Assault mk.0
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sir RAVEN WING
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
1849
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Posted - 2014.12.15 00:30:00 -
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B1ack ice wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:If I talked **** you could not say you have killed me yet* I like how you put yet in there. Very diligent of you. It's only a matter of time. ;)
I like how you added yet on there.
It is easy to see that I never had yet in my sentence.
It's a matter of time, yes I'm sure it is just a matter of time and server.
I recently switched to the automatic server due to lag on other servers. Good luck killing me, you'll need it.
Don't even try to use a heavy, I burn holes in them. Scouts die terrible bad and assault seem to be a bloody mess, of course that's from my ADV suit. You'll have a better chance against my proto (Which can run faster than my scout.)
I will leave you drowning in your own blood.
Then I will terminate your clone
With a potato
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
3465
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Posted - 2014.12.15 08:47:00 -
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RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:Fiddlestaxp wrote:The talent in the war room, like the talent in the game itself, is but a pale shadow of its former self. Cool story. Iv seen loads of pro dusters in other games and they are plain crap. K den.
That's true... I'd not imagine most DUST players would be as good as you are at hello kitty island adventure...
http://evil-guide.tripod.com/
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
3465
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Posted - 2014.12.15 08:49:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:BLUNT SMKR wrote:Roman837 wrote: And the skill of the players in it has dramatically increased. False Not false, compared to 6 months ago there are a lot more players who can compete in PC.
yeah I mean if I came back I might be able to do well in PCs now like SoTa...
http://evil-guide.tripod.com/
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SoTa PoP
Titans of Phoenix
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Posted - 2014.12.15 08:59:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:BLUNT SMKR wrote:Roman837 wrote: And the skill of the players in it has dramatically increased. False Not false, compared to 6 months ago there are a lot more players who can compete in PC. yeah I mean if I came back I might be able to do well in PCs now like SoTa...
Even if everyone quit this game and you were the last person in dust you still wouldn't be good enough to PC.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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Immortal John Ripper
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Posted - 2014.12.15 09:20:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:BLUNT SMKR wrote:Roman837 wrote: And the skill of the players in it has dramatically increased. False Not false, compared to 6 months ago there are a lot more players who can compete in PC. yeah I mean if I came back I might be able to do well in PCs now like SoTa...
LOL
Alt of Jadek.
Anyone with less likes than me is not a forum warrior. Anyone with more likes than me is a forum warrior
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Back and Forth
6444
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Posted - 2014.12.15 10:35:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:That's my cat walk, my name is written on it.  Viktor don't make me BRN-50 you again for ringing for KEQ. Also you should explain to me what happened to that Caracal the other day. When you said "I don't want to talk about it" I knew it'd be a great story.
Lol
I warped to a random planet and wanted to get eyes on the talwar fleet, So then i warped to the small at 100 and out of all the celestials in the system that red fleet bounces of the same planet and warp at the same range to the same plex, just did it a minute before me so when i warped to the plex at 100km i laned at 0 on top of them. I'm more of meant for range so i warped right on top of them and get rekt.
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