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Devilish Killzone
Nyain San General Tso's Alliance
3
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Posted - 2014.12.13 00:42:00 -
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My Madrugar cost 464,085 ISK. It comes with 1,200 shield and 4000 armor. I have it fitted with an 80 GJ Ion Cannon. The red berry on the other team has an installation. I has 2,000 shield and 10,000 armor and cost 0 ISK. It also 3 shots my Madrugar. I lose 464,085 ISK to a free installation that has more than double my HP... Hmmm, you hink we could dumb down he installations to 6,000-7,000 total HP? I'd rather not lose my expensive tank to free installations so often.
"Jumping feet first into hell is not my job. Making sure it's full when I get there is."
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Operative 1174 Uuali
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
170
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Posted - 2014.12.13 00:55:00 -
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The hell with that! Now CCP has every excuse to stick it in AVers faces and amp tanks back up to their former rebalanced glory.
No excuse infantry. Now you have God mode installations. If you can't make use of those it is not the tanker's fault.
I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
15827
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Posted - 2014.12.13 00:57:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:The hell with that! Now CCP has every excuse to stick it in AVers faces and amp tanks back up to their former rebalanced glory.
No excuse infantry. Now you have God mode installations. If you can't make use of those it is not the tanker's fault.
2500 Shields and 6030 Armour.
I also think it would be cool if turrets were indestructible but when their HP was gone they defaulted back to neutral and went into a 3-5 min reinforcement timer.
*"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
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Anatha Amelana
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
5
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Posted - 2014.12.13 01:21:00 -
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I don't know what Installation you are going against. Takes 4-5 shots from a Rail Turret to kill a Madrugar thats well fitted. Plus put a Proto Railgun and a Damage Mod on and the Turrets down before it can even turn to shoot back.
I will not hesitate when the test of Faith finds me, for only the strongest conviction will open the gates of paradise.
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Bahirae Serugiusu
Vendetta Reactionary Force
363
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Posted - 2014.12.13 01:24:00 -
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Bro it takes 3 shots to kill a Sica. Plus a while ago CCP said installations weren't meant for free points...although their daily missions say otherwise.
The State will always survive.
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Robocop Junior
research lab
905
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Posted - 2014.12.13 01:39:00 -
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**** yo tank and the couch inside!
If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
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Lupus Wolf
Minmatar Republic
86
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Posted - 2014.12.13 02:25:00 -
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Devilish Killzone wrote:My Madrugar cost 464,085 ISK. It comes with 1,200 shield and 4000 armor. I have it fitted with an 80 GJ Ion Cannon. The red berry on the other team has an installation. I has 2,000 shield and 10,000 armor and cost 0 ISK. It also 3 shots my Madrugar. I lose 464,085 ISK to a free installation that has more than double my HP... Hmmm, you hink we could dumb down he installations to 6,000-7,000 total HP? I'd rather not lose my expensive tank to free installations so often. 1st of all, lol Madrugars. The only time I use armor tanks nowadays is if I know there's no AV, and i'm fighting a blaster Sica.
2nd of all, you didn't fit any plates? 4000 is the default armor HP. Without any modules, a basic railgun can 3 shot it (2 shot without shields).
3rd of all, installations should be a first priority when going into a match. I run in with my missile gunni, because it kills them in 4-4.5 volleys.
Also, memorize where the installations are. And always assume they'll start shooting at you (The AI is really buggy, but still dangerous). You never know if there's a random redberry waiting at the controls.
Redundant usernames FTW
Go home Damage Indicator, you're drunk
Good, good... let the nanites flow through you
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
2639
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Posted - 2014.12.13 02:38:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:The hell with that! Now CCP has every excuse to stick it in AVers faces and amp tanks back up to their former rebalanced glory.
No excuse infantry. Now you have God mode installations. If you can't make use of those it is not the tanker's fault.
God mode installations?
This would only make sense if all that went on in your head is "MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEME"
Don't worry, it seems to be the forum average these days. *pat*
If you have a built structure anchored in ground for defense.... OFCOURSE it will be better then a mobile platform which provides certain weaknesses and advantages to a static platform.
This is common sense.
Enter your mind? And Everything should bow before a tank... Even though it makes no sense what so ever...
Tanks problems is the same as every vehicle in the game currently... They are confused to what role they even do. What purpose is there to even use a Dropship? a Tank? A Lav? Now imagine a PC?
There is no complete concept in how vehicles even work in DUST, Or how they even fit in...
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Robocop Junior
research lab
908
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Posted - 2014.12.13 02:39:00 -
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Help me guys my movable fortress has a counter! How am I supposed to lay waste to defenseless noobs!?
If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
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Bahirae Serugiusu
Vendetta Reactionary Force
364
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Posted - 2014.12.13 02:43:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:Help me guys my movable fortress has a counter! How am I supposed to lay waste to defenseless noobs!? Have you tried being out of range of the turrets and hiding near one of the billion cargo crates laying around?
The State will always survive.
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game RUST415
1710
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Posted - 2014.12.13 02:46:00 -
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dont go near them.... when i see a tank i don't go near it. its a simple strategy but it works
All Hail Legion
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
15830
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Posted - 2014.12.13 02:50:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:dont go near them.... when i see a tank i don't go near it. its a simple strategy but it works
You cannot afford not to go near turrets as they have eyes over nearly half the map.
*"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
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Robocop Junior
research lab
908
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Posted - 2014.12.13 02:52:00 -
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I bet he is the kind of tanker that blows up my LAV for those free points rather than shooting me who is trying to forge then drives off to kill non AVers lol
If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
2639
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Posted - 2014.12.13 02:54:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:I bet he is the kind of tanker that blows up my LAV for those free points rather than shooting me who is trying to forge then drives off to kill non AVers lol
Or a vet tanker who has asked for a PVE mode forever.
Then complains about some NPC turrets they have to fight each round to access parts of the map they want to go. |
axis alpha
Red Star. EoN.
405
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Posted - 2014.12.13 02:55:00 -
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Hey
Go around.
I cut you up so bad.... You gonna wish I no cut you up so bad.
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Devilish Killzone
Nyain San General Tso's Alliance
3
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Posted - 2014.12.13 03:03:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:I bet he is the kind of tanker that blows up my LAV for those free points rather than shooting me who is trying to forge then drives off to kill non AVers lol Wonderful! I love getting harassed by keyboard warriors. Keep on typing for the good of your ego! You must be really good at this game if I would rather shoot a non-Aver than a FG (or you aren't a threat). I know it's hard to understand, but Tanks take skill points to use, therefore I expect balancing for AV/Vehicles/etc. like the rest of the stuff in the game. I do not wish my tank was the most OP thing in the game. I just wish FREE installations were a bit less powerful.
"Jumping feet first into hell is not my job. Making sure it's full when I get there is."
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Bahirae Serugiusu
Vendetta Reactionary Force
364
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Posted - 2014.12.13 03:12:00 -
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Devilish Killzone wrote:Robocop Junior wrote:I bet he is the kind of tanker that blows up my LAV for those free points rather than shooting me who is trying to forge then drives off to kill non AVers lol Wonderful! I love getting harassed by keyboard warriors. Keep on typing for the good of your ego! You must be really good at this game if I would rather shoot a non-Aver than a FG (or you aren't a threat). I know it's hard to understand, but Tanks take skill points to use, therefore I expect balancing for AV/Vehicles/etc. like the rest of the stuff in the game. I do not wish my tank was the most OP thing in the game. I just wish FREE installations were a bit less powerful. They aren't powerful. An undamaged Madrugar takes around 4 shots with a Railgun to kill that is unless they don't have a Armor hardener or anything equipped, 3 for a Sica. Keep your distance and use some CAUTION (its a hard concept for tankers to understand) and they won't get a hit on you. I've seen Prototype Railgun Gunnlogis with a damage mod rip through Installations like its no ones business. And I've used a Sica with a Militia Railgun and killed Installations also pretty easily not as quickly but still not a single hit on me.
The State will always survive.
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Devilish Killzone
Nyain San General Tso's Alliance
3
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Posted - 2014.12.13 03:16:00 -
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Bahirae Serugiusu wrote:Devilish Killzone wrote:Robocop Junior wrote:I bet he is the kind of tanker that blows up my LAV for those free points rather than shooting me who is trying to forge then drives off to kill non AVers lol Wonderful! I love getting harassed by keyboard warriors. Keep on typing for the good of your ego! You must be really good at this game if I would rather shoot a non-Aver than a FG (or you aren't a threat). I know it's hard to understand, but Tanks take skill points to use, therefore I expect balancing for AV/Vehicles/etc. like the rest of the stuff in the game. I do not wish my tank was the most OP thing in the game. I just wish FREE installations were a bit less powerful. They aren't powerful. An undamaged Madrugar takes around 4 shots with a Railgun to kill that is unless they don't have a Armor hardener or anything equipped, 3 for a Sica. Keep your distance and use some CAUTION (its a hard concept for tankers to understand) and they won't get a hit on you. I've seen Prototype Railgun Gunnlogis with a damage mod rip through Installations like its no ones business. And I've used a Sica with a Militia Railgun and killed Installations also pretty easily not as quickly but still not a single hit on me. 12,000 HP is not powerful... Santa is also real. Pigs can fly. I eat cereal for dinner.
"Jumping feet first into hell is not my job. Making sure it's full when I get there is."
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Robocop Junior
research lab
908
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Posted - 2014.12.13 03:19:00 -
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Get a missile tank?
If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
1927
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Posted - 2014.12.13 03:27:00 -
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Devilish Killzone wrote: 12,000 HP is not powerful... Santa is also real. Pigs can fly. I eat cereal for dinner.
They've been able to since 1919. Now, not a day goes by that I can't look up in the sky and see one going by.
[RYJC]
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Robocop Junior
research lab
910
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Posted - 2014.12.13 03:28:00 -
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That's SOME pig:D
If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
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Bahirae Serugiusu
Vendetta Reactionary Force
364
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Posted - 2014.12.13 03:29:00 -
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Devilish Killzone wrote:Bahirae Serugiusu wrote:Devilish Killzone wrote:Robocop Junior wrote:I bet he is the kind of tanker that blows up my LAV for those free points rather than shooting me who is trying to forge then drives off to kill non AVers lol Wonderful! I love getting harassed by keyboard warriors. Keep on typing for the good of your ego! You must be really good at this game if I would rather shoot a non-Aver than a FG (or you aren't a threat). I know it's hard to understand, but Tanks take skill points to use, therefore I expect balancing for AV/Vehicles/etc. like the rest of the stuff in the game. I do not wish my tank was the most OP thing in the game. I just wish FREE installations were a bit less powerful. They aren't powerful. An undamaged Madrugar takes around 4 shots with a Railgun to kill that is unless they don't have a Armor hardener or anything equipped, 3 for a Sica. Keep your distance and use some CAUTION (its a hard concept for tankers to understand) and they won't get a hit on you. I've seen Prototype Railgun Gunnlogis with a damage mod rip through Installations like its no ones business. And I've used a Sica with a Militia Railgun and killed Installations also pretty easily not as quickly but still not a single hit on me. 12,000 HP is not powerful... Santa is also real. Pigs can fly. I eat cereal for dinner. Who would have guessed a stationary turret with no mods and just a bit or armor repair but 12k Armor (weak to Rail Guns, Missiles) is able to so easily kill a Madrugar with mods and the ability to move behind cover piloted of course by a dedicated tanker.
The State will always survive.
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Devilish Killzone
Nyain San General Tso's Alliance
4
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Posted - 2014.12.13 03:32:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:Get a missile tank? Shouldn't have to spec into another turret to do 1 job. :)
"Jumping feet first into hell is not my job. Making sure it's full when I get there is."
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Bahirae Serugiusu
Vendetta Reactionary Force
364
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Posted - 2014.12.13 03:37:00 -
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Devilish Killzone wrote:Robocop Junior wrote:Get a missile tank? Shouldn't have to spec into another turret to do 1 job. :) Then get a Rail Gun and stop belly aching.
The State will always survive.
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brett morris518
is well hung
37
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Posted - 2014.12.13 04:29:00 -
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I say decreased hp on installations is fine, on ONE condition.. We are finally able to deploy them from off-map support... Or where ever they fall out of the sky from.. Until then, they are fine.. Always in the same spot, not usually a threat, and pretty easy to kill with the right weapon. And once they are gone, they stay gone. What do you think those installations are there for? To destroy vehicles maybe?! So you got killed by something that's made to kill you? O.o
Just be glad they don't randomly shoot at you when they are empty and have almost unlimited range like they used to. Wanna hear some real bull? My friend and I were in his ~500,000 ISK tank just this morning, killed tanks, some installations, a derp ship, then went to supply depot to recall it and change suits.. Almost got there when we both committed suicide because the tank just fell through the map and instantly turned to ashes.. We thought it was funny as hell. Moral of the story? It's a game, quit crying about it.. I'm gonna love the tears of tankers if we are ever able to drop our own installations. |
Robocop Junior
research lab
916
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Posted - 2014.12.13 04:31:00 -
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Imagine dropping an installation ON the tank muahahahaha
If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
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brett morris518
is well hung
37
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Posted - 2014.12.13 04:38:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:Imagine dropping an installation ON the tank muahahahaha Omg I would pay to see it happen!!! Bwahahahaha !!! |
brett morris518
is well hung
37
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Posted - 2014.12.13 04:43:00 -
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brett morris518 wrote:Robocop Junior wrote:Imagine dropping an installation ON the tank muahahahaha Omg I would pay to see it happen!!! Bwahahahaha !!! It would go like this "so today I cloaked, ran up behind a tank parked on a hill, and called an installation on top of him! Then it said location not suitable for deployment." :( |
Commander Noctus
Gallente Loyalist
175
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Posted - 2014.12.13 05:08:00 -
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Yeah, sure, the original boost was ridiculous anyway. Although, I'd prefer that tanks be looked at instead. My Forge is tired of popping tanks easily.
Gallente User since Jan. 28th, 2013. Touched on every Gallente role since.
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Juno Tristan
Obscure Reference
226
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Posted - 2014.12.13 05:18:00 -
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Perhaps you would be interested my suggestion where you have to buy turrets and can actually get in them
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2496443#post2496443 |
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
15831
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Posted - 2014.12.13 07:05:00 -
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Anatha Amelana wrote:I don't know what Installation you are going against. Takes 4-5 shots from a Rail Turret to kill a Madrugar thats well fitted. Plus put a Proto Railgun and a Damage Mod on and the Turrets down before it can even turn to shoot back.
Why you are using a Railgun on a Maddy or damage modules for that matter is beyond. Would simply be more efficient to use a Gunnlogi.
*"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
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Mejt0
Fat'Kids are Hard to Kidnap
582
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Posted - 2014.12.13 11:54:00 -
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There is always a random red douchebag operateing redline rail instalation.
Pick up gunlogi [armor vehicles are wrecked instantly by everything] with 2 harderners, 1 extender and XT missiles.
Wreck those instalations at the begining of the game, collect free wp and move along.
Caldari Loyalist
Markiplier fan.
Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
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Devilish Killzone
0uter.Heaven
6
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Posted - 2014.12.16 01:58:00 -
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brett morris518 wrote:I say decreased hp on installations is fine, on ONE condition.. We are finally able to deploy them from off-map support... Or where ever they fall out of the sky from.. Until then, they are fine.. Always in the same spot, not usually a threat, and pretty easy to kill with the right weapon. And once they are gone, they stay gone. What do you think those installations are there for? To destroy vehicles maybe?! So you got killed by something that's made to kill you? O.o Just be glad they don't randomly shoot at you when they are empty and have almost unlimited range like they used to. Wanna hear some real bull? My friend and I were in his ~500,000 ISK tank just this morning, killed tanks, some installations, a derp ship, then went to supply depot to recall it and change suits.. Almost got there when we both committed suicide because the tank just fell through the map and instantly turned to ashes.. We thought it was funny as hell. Moral of the story? It's a game, quit crying about it.. I'm gonna love the tears of tankers if we are ever able to drop our own installations. Wasn't crying though... Just asking for a simple 5000-6000 HP nerf. This whole player base just hates tanks, it's ridiculous. I just get AV spammed so hard it's not even fair, but I guess that's the game itself right? Oh look! A tank just killed 3 people! Everybody spam the **** out of swarms and forges! 3 swarms and 2 forges outta work? Nope! We need 5 swarms and 5 forges! On top of that I have enemy tanks and installations up my ass. That is a lot of **** to be fighting at once, especially when blueberries have no situation awareness whatsoever.
Zeke Dunevent, Emperor Averse, and Shruikan Iceeye are BAE. <3
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brett morris518
is well hung
42
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Posted - 2014.12.16 05:47:00 -
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Devilish Killzone wrote:brett morris518 wrote:I say decreased hp on installations is fine, on ONE condition.. We are finally able to deploy them from off-map support... Or where ever they fall out of the sky from.. Until then, they are fine.. Always in the same spot, not usually a threat, and pretty easy to kill with the right weapon. And once they are gone, they stay gone. What do you think those installations are there for? To destroy vehicles maybe?! So you got killed by something that's made to kill you? O.o Just be glad they don't randomly shoot at you when they are empty and have almost unlimited range like they used to. Wanna hear some real bull? My friend and I were in his ~500,000 ISK tank just this morning, killed tanks, some installations, a derp ship, then went to supply depot to recall it and change suits.. Almost got there when we both committed suicide because the tank just fell through the map and instantly turned to ashes.. We thought it was funny as hell. Moral of the story? It's a game, quit crying about it.. I'm gonna love the tears of tankers if we are ever able to drop our own installations. Wasn't crying though... Just asking for a simple 5000-6000 HP nerf. This whole player base just hates tanks, it's ridiculous. I just get AV spammed so hard it's not even fair, but I guess that's the game itself right? Oh look! A tank just killed 3 people! Everybody spam the **** out of swarms and forges! 3 swarms and 2 forges outta work? Nope! We need 5 swarms and 5 forges! On top of that I have enemy tanks and installations up my ass. That is a lot of **** to be fighting at once, especially when blueberries have no situation awareness whatsoever.
Forges and swarms?! Pshhh.. When I did my respec, I only got level 3 swarms.. And no more forge/heavy crap.. That SP can be used for something useful. Only reason I got swarms was to keep derp ships out of the area I'm in.. Tanks tho? No my friend. Why waste telling my squad to get AV out when I can do in a tank alone.. I'm sure if u have seen my posts, u will know that if I have said it once, I have said it a million times... BPO LAV, 10 ADV-CPX remotes, and BPO suit.. I just like reminding u guys that swarms and forges aren't as bad as me sneaking up on u and ramming u. So if u see my name on the opposite team, and u run tanks, watch ur back, son. |
Kuruld Sengar
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
79
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Posted - 2014.12.16 06:09:00 -
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brett morris518 wrote:Forges and swarms?! Pshhh.. When I did my respec, I only got level 3 swarms.. And no more forge/heavy crap.. That SP can be used for something useful. Only reason I got swarms was to keep derp ships out of the area I'm in.. Tanks tho? No my friend. Why waste telling my squad to get AV out when I can do in a tank alone.. I'm sure if u have seen my posts, u will know that if I have said it once, I have said it a million times... BPO LAV, 10 ADV-CPX remotes, and BPO suit.. I just like reminding u guys that swarms and forges aren't as bad as me sneaking up on u and ramming u. So if u see my name on the opposite team, and u run tanks, watch ur back, son. I think you forget that you will need a proto logi now to hold all those remotes. |
Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
5094
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Posted - 2014.12.16 06:23:00 -
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You lost to a berry with an immobile turret.
Take a moment to think about that. |
brett morris518
is well hung
42
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Posted - 2014.12.16 06:28:00 -
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Kuruld Sengar wrote:brett morris518 wrote:Forges and swarms?! Pshhh.. When I did my respec, I only got level 3 swarms.. And no more forge/heavy crap.. That SP can be used for something useful. Only reason I got swarms was to keep derp ships out of the area I'm in.. Tanks tho? No my friend. Why waste telling my squad to get AV out when I can do in a tank alone.. I'm sure if u have seen my posts, u will know that if I have said it once, I have said it a million times... BPO LAV, 10 ADV-CPX remotes, and BPO suit.. I just like reminding u guys that swarms and forges aren't as bad as me sneaking up on u and ramming u. So if u see my name on the opposite team, and u run tanks, watch ur back, son. I think you forget that you will need a proto logi now to hold all those remotes. Oh yeah... :(
Oh wait, u mean my apex suit? :P |
LAVALLOIS Nash
QcGOLD
344
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Posted - 2014.12.16 06:31:00 -
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Devilish Killzone wrote:Oh look! A tank just killed 3 people! Everybody spam the **** out of swarms and forges! 3 swarms and 2 forges outta work? Nope! We need 5 swarms and 5 forges!
You do realize that when you kill people, they often spawn back in AV fits just to exact revenge. Every person you kill potentially adds an AV fit to the area. |
brett morris518
is well hung
44
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Posted - 2014.12.16 06:34:00 -
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brett morris518 wrote:Kuruld Sengar wrote:brett morris518 wrote:Forges and swarms?! Pshhh.. When I did my respec, I only got level 3 swarms.. And no more forge/heavy crap.. That SP can be used for something useful. Only reason I got swarms was to keep derp ships out of the area I'm in.. Tanks tho? No my friend. Why waste telling my squad to get AV out when I can do in a tank alone.. I'm sure if u have seen my posts, u will know that if I have said it once, I have said it a million times... BPO LAV, 10 ADV-CPX remotes, and BPO suit.. I just like reminding u guys that swarms and forges aren't as bad as me sneaking up on u and ramming u. So if u see my name on the opposite team, and u run tanks, watch ur back, son. I think you forget that you will need a proto logi now to hold all those remotes. Oh yeah... :( Oh wait, u mean change into my apex suit? :P Yea I know.. Hella broken |
Timtron Victory
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
100
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Posted - 2014.12.16 06:39:00 -
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Before CCP added the indicator when deploying vehicles more than a few people have dropped tanks on themselves. I remember a guy way back in 1.6 or so who dropped a tank on himself during a gun fight with me. I hacked it and went my merry way haha
Proud Christian
Jesus Loves You
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
R 0 N 1 N
1069
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Posted - 2014.12.16 07:45:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:There is always a random red douchebag operateing redline rail instalation.
lol. What are you saying? Tankers should be allowed to drive around without taking fire? Or is it if the red fires from the redline you don't like? They nerfed the range ya know.
I think you would drum up the same sentiment if you said "There is always a random red douchebag driving around in a tank killing random blues"
You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all.
~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
15966
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Posted - 2014.12.16 08:21:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Mejt0 wrote:There is always a random red douchebag operateing redline rail instalation. lol. What are you saying? Tankers should be allowed to drive around without taking fire? Or is it if the red fires from the redline you don't like? They nerfed the range ya know. I think you would drum up the same sentiment if you said "There is always a random red douchebag driving around in a tank killing random blues"
No no no...... he is not saying that. That's damn poor strawmanning anyway.
What I think the OP is suggesting is that currently Installation have arguably too much eHP for a free fixed emplacement that Infantry Players rarely value or bother to defend.
These turrets become arbitrary distractions on the field because of their numbers, access to HAV accessible locations, and TTK again an possibly manned emplacement with Tank like eHP that has not been paid for with either ISK or SP in addition to the powerful AV players can already field.
What would be nice to see is a reduction in the eHP of these installations so that ADS can have the opportunity to engage them, and so that for a free installation I have something to do.
Now one suggestion that I have made is that Turrets are indestructible so that an HAV or ADS can nullify the threat of one but never actually remove it from the field. Instead the turret reverts to neutral ownership and enters a Reinforcement Timer which counts down before the turret can be used again.
This way if a vehicle is not careful it could find itself under fire from a turret it previously thought its had Reinforced.
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