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![True Adamance True Adamance](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.12.13 07:05:00 -
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Anatha Amelana wrote:I don't know what Installation you are going against. Takes 4-5 shots from a Rail Turret to kill a Madrugar thats well fitted. Plus put a Proto Railgun and a Damage Mod on and the Turrets down before it can even turn to shoot back.
Why you are using a Railgun on a Maddy or damage modules for that matter is beyond. Would simply be more efficient to use a Gunnlogi.
*"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
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![Mejt0 Mejt0](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_caldari_128.jpg)
Mejt0
Fat'Kids are Hard to Kidnap
582
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Posted - 2014.12.13 11:54:00 -
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There is always a random red douchebag operateing redline rail instalation.
Pick up gunlogi [armor vehicles are wrecked instantly by everything] with 2 harderners, 1 extender and XT missiles.
Wreck those instalations at the begining of the game, collect free wp and move along.
Caldari Loyalist
Markiplier fan.
Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
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![Devilish Killzone Devilish Killzone](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Devilish Killzone
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2014.12.16 01:58:00 -
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brett morris518 wrote:I say decreased hp on installations is fine, on ONE condition.. We are finally able to deploy them from off-map support... Or where ever they fall out of the sky from.. Until then, they are fine.. Always in the same spot, not usually a threat, and pretty easy to kill with the right weapon. And once they are gone, they stay gone. What do you think those installations are there for? To destroy vehicles maybe?! So you got killed by something that's made to kill you? O.o Just be glad they don't randomly shoot at you when they are empty and have almost unlimited range like they used to. Wanna hear some real bull? My friend and I were in his ~500,000 ISK tank just this morning, killed tanks, some installations, a derp ship, then went to supply depot to recall it and change suits.. Almost got there when we both committed suicide because the tank just fell through the map and instantly turned to ashes.. We thought it was funny as hell. Moral of the story? It's a game, quit crying about it.. I'm gonna love the tears of tankers if we are ever able to drop our own installations. ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png) Wasn't crying though... Just asking for a simple 5000-6000 HP nerf. This whole player base just hates tanks, it's ridiculous. I just get AV spammed so hard it's not even fair, but I guess that's the game itself right? Oh look! A tank just killed 3 people! Everybody spam the **** out of swarms and forges! 3 swarms and 2 forges outta work? Nope! We need 5 swarms and 5 forges! On top of that I have enemy tanks and installations up my ass. That is a lot of **** to be fighting at once, especially when blueberries have no situation awareness whatsoever.
Zeke Dunevent, Emperor Averse, and Shruikan Iceeye are BAE. <3
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brett morris518
is well hung
42
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Posted - 2014.12.16 05:47:00 -
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Devilish Killzone wrote:brett morris518 wrote:I say decreased hp on installations is fine, on ONE condition.. We are finally able to deploy them from off-map support... Or where ever they fall out of the sky from.. Until then, they are fine.. Always in the same spot, not usually a threat, and pretty easy to kill with the right weapon. And once they are gone, they stay gone. What do you think those installations are there for? To destroy vehicles maybe?! So you got killed by something that's made to kill you? O.o Just be glad they don't randomly shoot at you when they are empty and have almost unlimited range like they used to. Wanna hear some real bull? My friend and I were in his ~500,000 ISK tank just this morning, killed tanks, some installations, a derp ship, then went to supply depot to recall it and change suits.. Almost got there when we both committed suicide because the tank just fell through the map and instantly turned to ashes.. We thought it was funny as hell. Moral of the story? It's a game, quit crying about it.. I'm gonna love the tears of tankers if we are ever able to drop our own installations. ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png) Wasn't crying though... Just asking for a simple 5000-6000 HP nerf. This whole player base just hates tanks, it's ridiculous. I just get AV spammed so hard it's not even fair, but I guess that's the game itself right? Oh look! A tank just killed 3 people! Everybody spam the **** out of swarms and forges! 3 swarms and 2 forges outta work? Nope! We need 5 swarms and 5 forges! On top of that I have enemy tanks and installations up my ass. That is a lot of **** to be fighting at once, especially when blueberries have no situation awareness whatsoever.
Forges and swarms?! Pshhh.. When I did my respec, I only got level 3 swarms.. And no more forge/heavy crap.. That SP can be used for something useful. Only reason I got swarms was to keep derp ships out of the area I'm in.. Tanks tho? No my friend. Why waste telling my squad to get AV out when I can do in a tank alone.. I'm sure if u have seen my posts, u will know that if I have said it once, I have said it a million times... BPO LAV, 10 ADV-CPX remotes, and BPO suit.. I just like reminding u guys that swarms and forges aren't as bad as me sneaking up on u and ramming u. So if u see my name on the opposite team, and u run tanks, watch ur back, son. |
![Kuruld Sengar Kuruld Sengar](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Kuruld Sengar
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.16 06:09:00 -
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brett morris518 wrote:Forges and swarms?! Pshhh.. When I did my respec, I only got level 3 swarms.. And no more forge/heavy crap.. That SP can be used for something useful. Only reason I got swarms was to keep derp ships out of the area I'm in.. Tanks tho? No my friend. Why waste telling my squad to get AV out when I can do in a tank alone.. I'm sure if u have seen my posts, u will know that if I have said it once, I have said it a million times... BPO LAV, 10 ADV-CPX remotes, and BPO suit.. I just like reminding u guys that swarms and forges aren't as bad as me sneaking up on u and ramming u. So if u see my name on the opposite team, and u run tanks, watch ur back, son. I think you forget that you will need a proto logi now to hold all those remotes. |
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2014.12.16 06:23:00 -
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You lost to a berry with an immobile turret.
Take a moment to think about that. |
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brett morris518
is well hung
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Posted - 2014.12.16 06:28:00 -
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Kuruld Sengar wrote:brett morris518 wrote:Forges and swarms?! Pshhh.. When I did my respec, I only got level 3 swarms.. And no more forge/heavy crap.. That SP can be used for something useful. Only reason I got swarms was to keep derp ships out of the area I'm in.. Tanks tho? No my friend. Why waste telling my squad to get AV out when I can do in a tank alone.. I'm sure if u have seen my posts, u will know that if I have said it once, I have said it a million times... BPO LAV, 10 ADV-CPX remotes, and BPO suit.. I just like reminding u guys that swarms and forges aren't as bad as me sneaking up on u and ramming u. So if u see my name on the opposite team, and u run tanks, watch ur back, son. I think you forget that you will need a proto logi now to hold all those remotes. Oh yeah... :(
Oh wait, u mean my apex suit? :P |
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LAVALLOIS Nash
QcGOLD
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Posted - 2014.12.16 06:31:00 -
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Devilish Killzone wrote:Oh look! A tank just killed 3 people! Everybody spam the **** out of swarms and forges! 3 swarms and 2 forges outta work? Nope! We need 5 swarms and 5 forges!
You do realize that when you kill people, they often spawn back in AV fits just to exact revenge. Every person you kill potentially adds an AV fit to the area. |
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brett morris518
is well hung
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Posted - 2014.12.16 06:34:00 -
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brett morris518 wrote:Kuruld Sengar wrote:brett morris518 wrote:Forges and swarms?! Pshhh.. When I did my respec, I only got level 3 swarms.. And no more forge/heavy crap.. That SP can be used for something useful. Only reason I got swarms was to keep derp ships out of the area I'm in.. Tanks tho? No my friend. Why waste telling my squad to get AV out when I can do in a tank alone.. I'm sure if u have seen my posts, u will know that if I have said it once, I have said it a million times... BPO LAV, 10 ADV-CPX remotes, and BPO suit.. I just like reminding u guys that swarms and forges aren't as bad as me sneaking up on u and ramming u. So if u see my name on the opposite team, and u run tanks, watch ur back, son. I think you forget that you will need a proto logi now to hold all those remotes. Oh yeah... :( Oh wait, u mean change into my apex suit? :P Yea I know.. Hella broken |
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Timtron Victory
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.12.16 06:39:00 -
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Before CCP added the indicator when deploying vehicles more than a few people have dropped tanks on themselves. I remember a guy way back in 1.6 or so who dropped a tank on himself during a gun fight with me. I hacked it and went my merry way haha
Proud Christian
Jesus Loves You
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
R 0 N 1 N
1069
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Posted - 2014.12.16 07:45:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:There is always a random red douchebag operateing redline rail instalation.
lol. What are you saying? Tankers should be allowed to drive around without taking fire? Or is it if the red fires from the redline you don't like? They nerfed the range ya know.
I think you would drum up the same sentiment if you said "There is always a random red douchebag driving around in a tank killing random blues"
You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all.
~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
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![True Adamance True Adamance](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.12.16 08:21:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Mejt0 wrote:There is always a random red douchebag operateing redline rail instalation. lol. What are you saying? Tankers should be allowed to drive around without taking fire? Or is it if the red fires from the redline you don't like? They nerfed the range ya know. I think you would drum up the same sentiment if you said "There is always a random red douchebag driving around in a tank killing random blues"
No no no...... he is not saying that. That's damn poor strawmanning anyway.
What I think the OP is suggesting is that currently Installation have arguably too much eHP for a free fixed emplacement that Infantry Players rarely value or bother to defend.
These turrets become arbitrary distractions on the field because of their numbers, access to HAV accessible locations, and TTK again an possibly manned emplacement with Tank like eHP that has not been paid for with either ISK or SP in addition to the powerful AV players can already field.
What would be nice to see is a reduction in the eHP of these installations so that ADS can have the opportunity to engage them, and so that for a free installation I have something to do.
Now one suggestion that I have made is that Turrets are indestructible so that an HAV or ADS can nullify the threat of one but never actually remove it from the field. Instead the turret reverts to neutral ownership and enters a Reinforcement Timer which counts down before the turret can be used again.
This way if a vehicle is not careful it could find itself under fire from a turret it previously thought its had Reinforced.
*"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
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