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Devilish Killzone wrote:

Bahirae Serugiusu wrote:

Devilish Killzone wrote:

Robocop Junior wrote:

I bet he is the kind of tanker that blows up my LAV for those free points rather than shooting me who is trying to forge then drives off to kill non AVers lol

Wonderful! I love getting harassed by keyboard warriors. Keep on typing for the good of your ego! You must be really good at this game if I would rather shoot a non-Aver than a FG (or you aren't a threat). I know it's hard to understand, but Tanks take skill points to use, therefore I expect balancing for AV/Vehicles/etc. like the rest of the stuff in the game. I do not wish my tank was the most OP thing in the game. I just wish FREE installations were a bit less powerful.

They aren't powerful. An undamaged Madrugar takes around 4 shots with a Railgun to kill that is unless they don't have a Armor hardener or anything equipped, 3 for a Sica. Keep your distance and use some CAUTION (its a hard concept for tankers to understand) and they won't get a hit on you. I've seen Prototype Railgun Gunnlogis with a damage mod rip through Installations like its no ones business. And I've used a Sica with a Militia Railgun and killed Installations also pretty easily not as quickly but still not a single hit on me.

12,000 HP is not powerful... Santa is also real. Pigs can fly. I eat cereal for dinner.

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Devilish Killzone Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 3	Posted - 2014.12.13 00:42:00 - [1] - Quote My Madrugar cost 464,085 ISK. It comes with 1,200 shield and 4000 armor. I have it fitted with an 80 GJ Ion Cannon. The red berry on the other team has an installation. I has 2,000 shield and 10,000 armor and cost 0 ISK. It also 3 shots my Madrugar. I lose 464,085 ISK to a free installation that has more than double my HP... Hmmm, you hink we could dumb down he installations to 6,000-7,000 total HP? I'd rather not lose my expensive tank to free installations so often. *"Jumping feet first into hell is not my job. Making sure it's full when I get there is."*
Operative 1174 Uuali The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 170	Posted - 2014.12.13 00:55:00 - [2] - Quote The hell with that! Now CCP has every excuse to stick it in AVers faces and amp tanks back up to their former rebalanced glory. No excuse infantry. Now you have God mode installations. If you can't make use of those it is not the tanker's fault. I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15827	Posted - 2014.12.13 00:57:00 - [3] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: The hell with that! Now CCP has every excuse to stick it in AVers faces and amp tanks back up to their former rebalanced glory. No excuse infantry. Now you have God mode installations. If you can't make use of those it is not the tanker's fault. 2500 Shields and 6030 Armour. I also think it would be cool if turrets were indestructible but when their HP was gone they defaulted back to neutral and went into a 3-5 min reinforcement timer. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
Anatha Amelana Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 5	Posted - 2014.12.13 01:21:00 - [4] - Quote I don't know what Installation you are going against. Takes 4-5 shots from a Rail Turret to kill a Madrugar thats well fitted. Plus put a Proto Railgun and a Damage Mod on and the Turrets down before it can even turn to shoot back. I will not hesitate when the test of Faith finds me, for only the strongest conviction will open the gates of paradise.
Bahirae Serugiusu Vendetta Reactionary Force 363	Posted - 2014.12.13 01:24:00 - [5] - Quote Bro it takes 3 shots to kill a Sica. Plus a while ago CCP said installations weren't meant for free points...although their daily missions say otherwise. The State will always survive.
Robocop Junior research lab 905	Posted - 2014.12.13 01:39:00 - [6] - Quote **** yo tank and the couch inside! If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
Lupus Wolf Minmatar Republic 86	Posted - 2014.12.13 02:25:00 - [7] - Quote Devilish Killzone wrote: My Madrugar cost 464,085 ISK. It comes with 1,200 shield and 4000 armor. I have it fitted with an 80 GJ Ion Cannon. The red berry on the other team has an installation. I has 2,000 shield and 10,000 armor and cost 0 ISK. It also 3 shots my Madrugar. I lose 464,085 ISK to a free installation that has more than double my HP... Hmmm, you hink we could dumb down he installations to 6,000-7,000 total HP? I'd rather not lose my expensive tank to free installations so often. 1st of all, lol Madrugars. The only time I use armor tanks nowadays is if I know there's no AV, and i'm fighting a blaster Sica. 2nd of all, you didn't fit any plates? 4000 is the default armor HP. Without any modules, a basic railgun can 3 shot it (2 shot without shields). 3rd of all, installations should be a first priority when going into a match. I run in with my missile gunni, because it kills them in 4-4.5 volleys. Also, memorize where the installations are. And always assume they'll start shooting at you (The AI is really buggy, but still dangerous). You never know if there's a random redberry waiting at the controls. Redundant usernames FTW Go home Damage Indicator, you're drunk Good, good... let the nanites flow through you
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. 2639	Posted - 2014.12.13 02:38:00 - [8] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: The hell with that! Now CCP has every excuse to stick it in AVers faces and amp tanks back up to their former rebalanced glory. No excuse infantry. Now you have God mode installations. If you can't make use of those it is not the tanker's fault. God mode installations? This would only make sense if all that went on in your head is "MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEME" Don't worry, it seems to be the forum average these days. pat If you have a built structure anchored in ground for defense.... OFCOURSE it will be better then a mobile platform which provides certain weaknesses and advantages to a static platform. This is common sense. Enter your mind? And Everything should bow before a tank... Even though it makes no sense what so ever... Tanks problems is the same as every vehicle in the game currently... They are confused to what role they even do. What purpose is there to even use a Dropship? a Tank? A Lav? Now imagine a PC? There is no complete concept in how vehicles even work in DUST, Or how they even fit in...
Robocop Junior research lab 908	Posted - 2014.12.13 02:39:00 - [9] - Quote Help me guys my movable fortress has a counter! How am I supposed to lay waste to defenseless noobs!? If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
Bahirae Serugiusu Vendetta Reactionary Force 364	Posted - 2014.12.13 02:43:00 - [10] - Quote Robocop Junior wrote: Help me guys my movable fortress has a counter! How am I supposed to lay waste to defenseless noobs!? Have you tried being out of range of the turrets and hiding near one of the billion cargo crates laying around? The State will always survive.

ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game RUST415 1710	Posted - 2014.12.13 02:46:00 - [11] - Quote dont go near them.... when i see a tank i don't go near it. its a simple strategy but it works All Hail Legion
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15830	Posted - 2014.12.13 02:50:00 - [12] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: dont go near them.... when i see a tank i don't go near it. its a simple strategy but it works You cannot afford not to go near turrets as they have eyes over nearly half the map. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
Robocop Junior research lab 908	Posted - 2014.12.13 02:52:00 - [13] - Quote I bet he is the kind of tanker that blows up my LAV for those free points rather than shooting me who is trying to forge then drives off to kill non AVers lol If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. 2639	Posted - 2014.12.13 02:54:00 - [14] - Quote Robocop Junior wrote: I bet he is the kind of tanker that blows up my LAV for those free points rather than shooting me who is trying to forge then drives off to kill non AVers lol Or a vet tanker who has asked for a PVE mode forever. Then complains about some NPC turrets they have to fight each round to access parts of the map they want to go.
axis alpha Red Star. EoN. 405	Posted - 2014.12.13 02:55:00 - [15] - Quote Hey Go around. I cut you up so bad.... You gonna wish I no cut you up so bad.
Devilish Killzone Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 3	Posted - 2014.12.13 03:03:00 - [16] - Quote Robocop Junior wrote: I bet he is the kind of tanker that blows up my LAV for those free points rather than shooting me who is trying to forge then drives off to kill non AVers lol Wonderful! I love getting harassed by keyboard warriors. Keep on typing for the good of your ego! You must be really good at this game if I would rather shoot a non-Aver than a FG (or you aren't a threat). I know it's hard to understand, but Tanks take skill points to use, therefore I expect balancing for AV/Vehicles/etc. like the rest of the stuff in the game. I do not wish my tank was the most OP thing in the game. I just wish *FREE* installations were a bit less powerful. *"Jumping feet first into hell is not my job. Making sure it's full when I get there is."*
Bahirae Serugiusu Vendetta Reactionary Force 364	Posted - 2014.12.13 03:12:00 - [17] - Quote Devilish Killzone wrote: Robocop Junior wrote: I bet he is the kind of tanker that blows up my LAV for those free points rather than shooting me who is trying to forge then drives off to kill non AVers lol Wonderful! I love getting harassed by keyboard warriors. Keep on typing for the good of your ego! You must be really good at this game if I would rather shoot a non-Aver than a FG (or you aren't a threat). I know it's hard to understand, but Tanks take skill points to use, therefore I expect balancing for AV/Vehicles/etc. like the rest of the stuff in the game. I do not wish my tank was the most OP thing in the game. I just wish *FREE* installations were a bit less powerful. They aren't powerful. An undamaged Madrugar takes around 4 shots with a Railgun to kill that is unless they don't have a Armor hardener or anything equipped, 3 for a Sica. Keep your distance and use some CAUTION (its a hard concept for tankers to understand) and they won't get a hit on you. I've seen Prototype Railgun Gunnlogis with a damage mod rip through Installations like its no ones business. And I've used a Sica with a Militia Railgun and killed Installations also pretty easily not as quickly but still not a single hit on me. The State will always survive.
Devilish Killzone Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 3	Posted - 2014.12.13 03:16:00 - [18] - Quote Bahirae Serugiusu wrote: Devilish Killzone wrote: Robocop Junior wrote: I bet he is the kind of tanker that blows up my LAV for those free points rather than shooting me who is trying to forge then drives off to kill non AVers lol Wonderful! I love getting harassed by keyboard warriors. Keep on typing for the good of your ego! You must be really good at this game if I would rather shoot a non-Aver than a FG (or you aren't a threat). I know it's hard to understand, but Tanks take skill points to use, therefore I expect balancing for AV/Vehicles/etc. like the rest of the stuff in the game. I do not wish my tank was the most OP thing in the game. I just wish *FREE* installations were a bit less powerful. They aren't powerful. An undamaged Madrugar takes around 4 shots with a Railgun to kill that is unless they don't have a Armor hardener or anything equipped, 3 for a Sica. Keep your distance and use some CAUTION (its a hard concept for tankers to understand) and they won't get a hit on you. I've seen Prototype Railgun Gunnlogis with a damage mod rip through Installations like its no ones business. And I've used a Sica with a Militia Railgun and killed Installations also pretty easily not as quickly but still not a single hit on me. 12,000 HP is not powerful... Santa is also real. Pigs can fly. I eat cereal for dinner. *"Jumping feet first into hell is not my job. Making sure it's full when I get there is."*
Robocop Junior research lab 908	Posted - 2014.12.13 03:19:00 - [19] - Quote Get a missile tank? If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1927	Posted - 2014.12.13 03:27:00 - [20] - Quote Devilish Killzone wrote: 12,000 HP is not powerful... Santa is also real. Pigs can fly. I eat cereal for dinner. They've been able to since 1919. Now, not a day goes by that I can't look up in the sky and see one going by. [RYJC]

Robocop Junior research lab 910	Posted - 2014.12.13 03:28:00 - [21] - Quote That's SOME pig:D If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
Bahirae Serugiusu Vendetta Reactionary Force 364	Posted - 2014.12.13 03:29:00 - [22] - Quote Devilish Killzone wrote: Bahirae Serugiusu wrote: Devilish Killzone wrote: Robocop Junior wrote: I bet he is the kind of tanker that blows up my LAV for those free points rather than shooting me who is trying to forge then drives off to kill non AVers lol Wonderful! I love getting harassed by keyboard warriors. Keep on typing for the good of your ego! You must be really good at this game if I would rather shoot a non-Aver than a FG (or you aren't a threat). I know it's hard to understand, but Tanks take skill points to use, therefore I expect balancing for AV/Vehicles/etc. like the rest of the stuff in the game. I do not wish my tank was the most OP thing in the game. I just wish *FREE* installations were a bit less powerful. They aren't powerful. An undamaged Madrugar takes around 4 shots with a Railgun to kill that is unless they don't have a Armor hardener or anything equipped, 3 for a Sica. Keep your distance and use some CAUTION (its a hard concept for tankers to understand) and they won't get a hit on you. I've seen Prototype Railgun Gunnlogis with a damage mod rip through Installations like its no ones business. And I've used a Sica with a Militia Railgun and killed Installations also pretty easily not as quickly but still not a single hit on me. 12,000 HP is not powerful... Santa is also real. Pigs can fly. I eat cereal for dinner. Who would have guessed a stationary turret with no mods and just a bit or armor repair but 12k Armor (weak to Rail Guns, Missiles) is able to so easily kill a Madrugar with mods and the ability to move behind cover piloted of course by a dedicated tanker. The State will always survive.
Devilish Killzone Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 4	Posted - 2014.12.13 03:32:00 - [23] - Quote Robocop Junior wrote: Get a missile tank? Shouldn't have to spec into another turret to do 1 job. :) *"Jumping feet first into hell is not my job. Making sure it's full when I get there is."*
Bahirae Serugiusu Vendetta Reactionary Force 364	Posted - 2014.12.13 03:37:00 - [24] - Quote Devilish Killzone wrote: Robocop Junior wrote: Get a missile tank? Shouldn't have to spec into another turret to do 1 job. :) Then get a Rail Gun and stop belly aching. The State will always survive.
brett morris518 is well hung 37	Posted - 2014.12.13 04:29:00 - [25] - Quote I say decreased hp on installations is fine, on ONE condition.. We are finally able to deploy them from off-map support... Or where ever they fall out of the sky from.. Until then, they are fine.. Always in the same spot, not usually a threat, and pretty easy to kill with the right weapon. And once they are gone, they stay gone. What do you think those installations are there for? To destroy vehicles maybe?! So you got killed by something that's made to kill you? O.o Just be glad they don't randomly shoot at you when they are empty and have almost unlimited range like they used to. Wanna hear some real bull? My friend and I were in his ~500,000 ISK tank just this morning, killed tanks, some installations, a derp ship, then went to supply depot to recall it and change suits.. Almost got there when we both committed suicide because the tank just fell through the map and instantly turned to ashes.. We thought it was funny as hell. Moral of the story? It's a game, quit crying about it.. I'm gonna love the tears of tankers if we are ever able to drop our own installations.
Robocop Junior research lab 916	Posted - 2014.12.13 04:31:00 - [26] - Quote Imagine dropping an installation ON the tank muahahahaha If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
brett morris518 is well hung 37	Posted - 2014.12.13 04:38:00 - [27] - Quote Robocop Junior wrote: Imagine dropping an installation ON the tank muahahahaha Omg I would pay to see it happen!!! Bwahahahaha !!!
brett morris518 is well hung 37	Posted - 2014.12.13 04:43:00 - [28] - Quote brett morris518 wrote: Robocop Junior wrote: Imagine dropping an installation ON the tank muahahahaha Omg I would pay to see it happen!!! Bwahahahaha !!! It would go like this "so today I cloaked, ran up behind a tank parked on a hill, and called an installation on top of him! Then it said location not suitable for deployment." :(
Commander Noctus Gallente Loyalist 175	Posted - 2014.12.13 05:08:00 - [29] - Quote Yeah, sure, the original boost was ridiculous anyway. Although, I'd prefer that tanks be looked at instead. My Forge is tired of popping tanks easily. Gallente User since Jan. 28th, 2013. Touched on every Gallente role since.
Juno Tristan Obscure Reference 226	Posted - 2014.12.13 05:18:00 - [30] - Quote Perhaps you would be interested my suggestion where you have to buy turrets and can actually get in them https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2496443#post2496443



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