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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
621
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Posted - 2014.12.09 13:25:00 -
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So CCP i thought you wanted to get rid of the direction indicator on the tacnet for passive and active scans? Well seems like i still get the directional arrows where the enemy is facing while using my active scans. Well no update goes along without bugs.
Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
13085
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Posted - 2014.12.09 13:33:00 -
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Pretty sure we never said active.
Since, you know, the active scanner requires you to do something and is not a 360 degree wall hack.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
8678
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Posted - 2014.12.09 13:35:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Pretty sure we never said active.
Since, you know, the active scanner requires you to do something and is not a 360 degree wall hack.
So the best recon tool in the game is now the Gal Logi?
Born Deteis Caldari. Rejected by my Kinsman.
Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe.
Nobody messes with my family
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
5433
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Posted - 2014.12.09 13:37:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:So the best recon tool in the game is now the Gal Logi? For real! If CCP wanted to make them so good at scanning they should have given them some command bonuses with active scanners... ... ... waitaminute!
My advice to you, playa...
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Spectral Clone
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
3283
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Posted - 2014.12.09 13:38:00 -
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EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet".
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
621
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Posted - 2014.12.09 13:38:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Pretty sure we never said active.
Since, you know, the active scanner requires you to do something and is not a 360 degree wall hack.
Wait what? Awesome lol inb4 gal logi spam with 4 scanners on. Well i can certainly sit 200m away from the happening and annoy the living hell out of the opposition. You allways amaze me with your decision, In good and in bad ways that is.
Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
13093
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Posted - 2014.12.09 13:39:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Pretty sure we never said active.
Since, you know, the active scanner requires you to do something and is not a 360 degree wall hack. So the best recon tool in the game is now the Gal Logi?
define best.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
8678
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Posted - 2014.12.09 13:44:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Pretty sure we never said active.
Since, you know, the active scanner requires you to do something and is not a 360 degree wall hack. So the best recon tool in the game is now the Gal Logi? define best.
Being able to detect the vast majority of players in the game (Gal Logi scans are very difficult to dodge if you are NOT scout), along with them now also being able to share those scans with the TEAM and those scans are now more powerful than passive scans (With the arrow now included)
Literally the best recon suit in the game. Why walk over to the objective with a sneaky scout and see whats up, when you can stand 80m away and *Click* Oh there they are.
Granted, Scouts still have a role. It just isn't recon. Their role is stealth. That's it. Cloak Nerf and range amp nerf means that scouts have some severely nerfed passive scans compared to before. Hell, the LOGI is better at passive scanning than we are.
Scouts are only good for dodging scans, and finding other damped suits. They are all now assassin suits.
Born Deteis Caldari. Rejected by my Kinsman.
Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe.
Nobody messes with my family
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
623
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Posted - 2014.12.09 13:49:00 -
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1 piece of equipment is that makes it now the best recon suit and that is the Creodron flux active scanner.
Scan range: 200m
scan angle: 90 degree
scan precision on a gal. logi: 21DB
So why should i move in with a scout suit to check the situation if i can sit far away with a gal.logi and just pop scans into that direction? Scouts are dead you murdered effectively a whole class. Gotta give it to you if you do something then you do it mercyless.
Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
13099
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Posted - 2014.12.09 13:51:00 -
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Too bad we can't change the efficiency of the gallogi, it's hardcoded, apparantly.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
623
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Posted - 2014.12.09 13:52:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Too bad we can't change the efficiency of the gallogi, it's hardcoded, apparantly.
Till the next update in a couple of months then. Ah well lets just sit back and see how the community handles this before you start swinging the nerfhammer again.
Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
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Ace Boone
Capital Acquisitions LLC
549
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Posted - 2014.12.09 13:53:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Pretty sure we never said active.
Since, you know, the active scanner requires you to do something and is not a 360 degree wall hack.
lol, no wonder we keep getting all these scout nerfs. Rattati is a scout abolitionist as well.
QQ, Rattati, QQ.
Only loyal to the republic.
I'm nothing more than bittervet without a PS3.
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
13108
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Posted - 2014.12.09 14:00:00 -
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I thought it was the exact opposite 
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
8679
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Posted - 2014.12.09 14:04:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Too bad we can't change the efficiency of the gallogi, it's hardcoded, apparantly.
No, don't misunderstand me.
This isn't exactly a bad thing, IF you want to remove scouts from being recon tools.
Think about it this way, Powerful Gal logi scans would force medium frames to DAMP to avoid them. So long as its POSSIBLE to avoid those scans, you will have med frames dampening to get under them.
Damped Med frames however, would then be targeted by scouts. They may dodge active scanners, but they can't avoid the scouts.
So if they get killed by scouts, what will they do? Their own scouts will start targeting the scouts.
See how it works? It's not necessarily BAD, but it does shift the scouts role, from "Detect the masses" to "Detect the damped"
Just some thought on this before I head out to take my chem final. Wish me luck.
Born Deteis Caldari. Rejected by my Kinsman.
Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe.
Nobody messes with my family
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
5437
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Posted - 2014.12.09 14:05:00 -
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Ace Boone wrote:lol, no wonder we keep getting all these scout nerfs. Rattati is a scout abolitionist as well. And nothing of value was lost.
My advice to you, playa...
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
VEHICLEBUSTERS Demolitions and Logistics Corp .
1512
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Posted - 2014.12.09 14:06:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Too bad we can't change the efficiency of the gallogi, it's hardcoded, apparantly.
Bout time you guys start to stand up like you've got a pair .
Stop caving in to these whiners .
It's screwing up the game .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
13108
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Posted - 2014.12.09 14:08:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:[quote=CCP Rattati]Too bad we can't change the efficiency of the gallogi, it's hardcoded, apparantly.
No, don't misunderstand me.
This isn't exactly a bad thing, IF you want to remove scouts from being recon tools.
Think about it this way, Powerful Gal logi scans would force medium frames to DAMP to avoid them. So long as its POSSIBLE to avoid those scans, you will have med frames dampening to get under them.
Damped Med frames however, would then be targeted by scouts. They may dodge active scanners, but they can't avoid the scouts.
So if they get killed by scouts, what will they do? Their own scouts will start targeting the scouts.
See how it works? It's not necessarily BAD, but it does shift the scouts role, from "Detect the masses" to "Detect the damped"
Just some thought on this before I head out to take my chem final. Wish me luck. [/quote
Good luck ;)
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
VEHICLEBUSTERS Demolitions and Logistics Corp .
1512
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Posted - 2014.12.09 14:12:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Too bad we can't change the efficiency of the gallogi, it's hardcoded, apparantly. No, don't misunderstand me. This isn't exactly a bad thing, IF you want to remove scouts from being recon tools. Think about it this way, Powerful Gal logi scans would force medium frames to DAMP to avoid them. So long as its POSSIBLE to avoid those scans, you will have med frames dampening to get under them. Damped Med frames however, would then be targeted by scouts. They may dodge active scanners, but they can't avoid the scouts. So if they get killed by scouts, what will they do? Their own scouts will start targeting the scouts. See how it works? It's not necessarily BAD, but it does shift the scouts role, from "Detect the masses" to "Detect the damped" Just some thought on this before I head out to take my chem final. Wish me luck.
Gal logi's should be targeted by scouts as well .
Someone knowing your position has nothing to do with how you handle them , ask a heavy that can't get under any scanner or the assault that plays to there role and that's slayer , they carry a scanner and if a Gal logi is equipped with all scanners then there a easy target as well as you being seen .
Most of you people that bring up these items are in a squad when you play , so I just can't understand why the biggest complainers are the one's who belong to a squad of a big corp , so there are multiple squads involved .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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JIAF-PR
148
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Posted - 2014.12.09 14:12:00 -
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I think if you want eliminate the probability of active scaner spam do them like the cloak field (only 1 for suit).
Sorry for my English;
JIAF-PR 
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m621 zma
203
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Posted - 2014.12.09 14:12:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Pretty sure we never said active.
Since, you know, the active scanner requires you to do something and is not a 360 degree wall hack.
360 degree wallhack... Hmm.. God you sound like the typical QQ forum no gun game scrub (which you are)
What you mean to say is that it is specifically another scout nerf as you take them back down the path to pointless. |
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
8755
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Posted - 2014.12.09 14:16:00 -
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m621 zma wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Pretty sure we never said active.
Since, you know, the active scanner requires you to do something and is not a 360 degree wall hack. 360 degree wallhack... Hmm.. God you sound like the typical QQ forum no gun game scrub (which you are) What you mean to say is that it is specifically another scout nerf as you take them back down the path to pointless.
You sound like a no gun-game scrub yourself.
At least Rattati is a factor, what are you?
CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
4880
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Posted - 2014.12.09 14:28:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:m621 zma wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Pretty sure we never said active.
Since, you know, the active scanner requires you to do something and is not a 360 degree wall hack. 360 degree wallhack... Hmm.. God you sound like the typical QQ forum no gun game scrub (which you are) What you mean to say is that it is specifically another scout nerf as you take them back down the path to pointless. You sound like a no gun-game scrub yourself. At least Rattati is a factor, what are you?
IKR? Oh noes I can't see everyone else and know where they are facing at all times!
Personally, I like it. The Gal logi has been useless for a long time, and it makes perfect sense that an active piece of EQ that you have to equip, turn on, and then wait for it to cool down before using it again should be more powerful than a passive "always-on" ability.
If it wasn't, WTF would anyone have invented it in the frist place? It would be like using a sextant and compass to navigate when you have a GPS sitting right next to you.
Also, lol at nobody catching on to Rattati's troll. The Gal logi's bonus is obviously not hard-coded into the game... *facepalm*
(The godfather of tactical logistics)
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Cat Merc
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
13622
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Posted - 2014.12.09 14:49:00 -
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So my ass can be detected by a scan that comes every 20 seconds for 5 seconds, and is 90 degrees?
I'll take that over 24/7 360 degrees scanning.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
6214
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Posted - 2014.12.09 14:56:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Pretty sure we never said active.
Since, you know, the active scanner requires you to do something and is not a 360 degree wall hack.
THANK YOU SUPREME GOD.
Amarr FW blue dots suck. If you suck :please go and bother Minmatar or Gallente. You'll even win some matches there.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
5707
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Posted - 2014.12.09 14:58:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:So my ass can be detected by a scan that comes every 20 seconds for 5 seconds, and is 90 degrees?
I'll take that over 24/7 360 degrees scanning.
Except it's not either/or
It's both
Gal Logi can see you with his 360-¦ scan and light you up to check which way you are facingGǪ before Gal Logi and Gal Heavy come bursting in to give you HMG hard loving.
MOAR Ladders
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Vitharr Foebane
Terminal Courtesy
Proficiency V.
2047
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Posted - 2014.12.09 15:08:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:So my ass can be detected by a scan that comes every 20 seconds for 5 seconds, and is 90 degrees?
I'll take that over 24/7 360 degrees scanning. Except it's not either/or It's both Gal Logi can see you with his 360-¦ scan and light you up to check which way you are facingGǪ before Gal Logi and Gal Heavy come bursting in to give you HMG hard loving.
whats stopping scouts from doing it? oh I know... they would rather have their Frisbee REs
Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Cat Merc
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
13624
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Posted - 2014.12.09 15:18:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:So my ass can be detected by a scan that comes every 20 seconds for 5 seconds, and is 90 degrees?
I'll take that over 24/7 360 degrees scanning. Except it's not either/or It's both Gal Logi can see you with his 360-¦ scan and light you up to check which way you are facingGǪ before Gal Logi and Gal Heavy come bursting in to give you HMG hard loving.
Scans ranges have been nerfed overall.
I have a damp fitted on my Assault.
Not even the most min maxed scouts can detect me at long range.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
8756
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Posted - 2014.12.09 16:04:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:So my ass can be detected by a scan that comes every 20 seconds for 5 seconds, and is 90 degrees?
I'll take that over 24/7 360 degrees scanning. Except it's not either/or It's both Gal Logi can see you with his 360-¦ scan and light you up to check which way you are facingGǪ before Gal Logi and Gal Heavy come bursting in to give you HMG hard loving. Scans ranges have been nerfed overall. I have a damp fitted on my Assault. Not even the most min maxed scouts can detect me at long range. Edit: It appears they can, nvm.
scruba-dub-dub
CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
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Dauth Jenkins
Titans of Phoenix
604
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Posted - 2014.12.09 16:10:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:1 piece of equipment is that makes it now the best recon suit and that is the Creodron flux active scanner.
Scan range: 200m
scan angle: 90 degree
scan precision on a gal. logi: 21DB
So why should i move in with a scout suit to check the situation if i can sit far away with a gal.logi and just pop scans into that direction? Scouts are dead you murdered effectively a whole class. Gotta give it to you if you do something then you do it mercyless.
.... do you know how expensive those are? you cant just throw those things around. also the cooldown is pretty long, even on a gallogi
-Sincerely
--The Dual Swarm Commando
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Aidualc
LATINOS KILLERS CORP
Dark Taboo
18
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Posted - 2014.12.09 16:35:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:1 piece of equipment is that makes it now the best recon suit and that is the Creodron flux active scanner.
Scan range: 200m
scan angle: 90 degree
scan precision on a gal. logi: 21DB
So why should i move in with a scout suit to check the situation if i can sit far away with a gal.logi and just pop scans into that direction? Scouts are dead you murdered effectively a whole class. Gotta give it to you if you do something then you do it mercyless.
Nope.. the best scan is CreoDron Proximity Active
Scan Range: 60m
scan angle: 45 degree
scan presicion: 21db
15 sec visibility (full Logi Gal)
15sec. cool (yeah instant scanning)
And is Like : "did you see the blurry spot in the wall guys... yeah the cloacked scout with a red arrow over the head?... you can kill it !! boys !!"
Scanning 200m is just for looking a Sniper, and only in tactical position in a Planetary Conquest Battle. not for Public Contract.
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hold that
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
472
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Posted - 2014.12.09 16:51:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Too bad we can't change the efficiency of the gallogi, it's hardcoded, apparantly. No, don't misunderstand me. This isn't exactly a bad thing, IF you want to remove scouts from being recon tools. Think about it this way, Powerful Gal logi scans would force medium frames to DAMP to avoid them. So long as its POSSIBLE to avoid those scans, you will have med frames dampening to get under them. Damped Med frames however, would then be targeted by scouts. They may dodge active scanners, but they can't avoid the scouts. So if they get killed by scouts, what will they do? Their own scouts will start targeting the scouts. See how it works? It's not necessarily BAD, but it does shift the scouts role, from "Detect the masses" to "Detect the damped" Just some thought on this before I head out to take my chem final. Wish me luck. Gal logi's should be targeted by scouts as well . Someone knowing your position has nothing to do with how you handle them , ask a heavy that can't get under any scanner or the assault that plays to there role and that's slayer , they carry a scanner and if a Gal logi is equipped with all scanners then there a easy target as well as you being seen . Most of you people that bring up these items are in a squad when you play , so I just can't understand why the biggest complainers are the one's who belong to a squad of a big corp , so there are multiple squads involved .
because the biggest complainers never play support roles, they only play slayer/cloak scout roles.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
5361
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Posted - 2014.12.09 17:11:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Too bad we can't change the efficiency of the gallogi, it's hardcoded, apparantly.
Sarcasm... I have the forum Precision to detect it. 
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
8688
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Posted - 2014.12.09 17:30:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Too bad we can't change the efficiency of the gallogi, it's hardcoded, apparantly. No, don't misunderstand me. This isn't exactly a bad thing, IF you want to remove scouts from being recon tools. Think about it this way, Powerful Gal logi scans would force medium frames to DAMP to avoid them. So long as its POSSIBLE to avoid those scans, you will have med frames dampening to get under them. Damped Med frames however, would then be targeted by scouts. They may dodge active scanners, but they can't avoid the scouts. So if they get killed by scouts, what will they do? Their own scouts will start targeting the scouts. See how it works? It's not necessarily BAD, but it does shift the scouts role, from "Detect the masses" to "Detect the damped" Just some thought on this before I head out to take my chem final. Wish me luck. Gal logi's should be targeted by scouts as well . Someone knowing your position has nothing to do with how you handle them , ask a heavy that can't get under any scanner or the assault that plays to there role and that's slayer , they carry a scanner and if a Gal logi is equipped with all scanners then there a easy target as well as you being seen . Most of you people that bring up these items are in a squad when you play , so I just can't understand why the biggest complainers are the one's who belong to a squad of a big corp , so there are multiple squads involved .
Please point out any and all "complaining" in the above post.
I'm just pointing out that "Scouts" are no longer a recon unit, and showing his this meta change will affect them and how they are played.
Very little complaining in there. If you read carefully, you'll even see that I'm claiming that the loss of strong scans on scouts is a good thing.
Born Deteis Caldari. Rejected by my Kinsman.
Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe.
Nobody messes with my family
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RayRay James
Titans of Phoenix
802
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Posted - 2014.12.09 17:55:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Too bad we can't change the efficiency of the gallogi, it's hardcoded, apparantly. Sarcasm... I have the forum Precision to detect it.
You must be running a Gal Logi.... |
RayRay James
Titans of Phoenix
802
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Posted - 2014.12.09 17:58:00 -
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One suit, with one particular scanner, both of which are proto, can find you.
How many of those do you think you run into in any given match?
I have both, trust me, it's not my (or anyone elses) most run suit. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
19962
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Posted - 2014.12.09 18:16:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Pretty sure we never said active.
Since, you know, the active scanner requires you to do something and is not a 360 degree wall hack.
This makes me insanely happy and is exactly what I wanted to see happen, given that active scanning is so much less powerful than passive.
The Federation is not a defined region of space, of planets, of mountains, rivers, or woods. It is a vision.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
1022
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Posted - 2014.12.09 18:46:00 -
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Aidualc wrote:Bright Cloud wrote:1 piece of equipment is that makes it now the best recon suit and that is the Creodron flux active scanner.
Scan range: 200m
scan angle: 90 degree
scan precision on a gal. logi: 21DB
So why should i move in with a scout suit to check the situation if i can sit far away with a gal.logi and just pop scans into that direction? Scouts are dead you murdered effectively a whole class. Gotta give it to you if you do something then you do it mercyless. Nope.. the best scan is CreoDron Proximity Active Scan Range: 60m scan angle: 45 degree scan presicion: 21db 15 sec visibility (full Logi Gal) 15sec. cool (yeah instant scanning) And is Like : "did you see the blurry spot in the wall guys... yeah the cloacked scout with a red arrow over the head?... you can kill it !! boys !!" Scanning 200m is just for looking a Sniper, and only in tactical position in a Planetary Conquest Battle. not for Public Contract.
so wait,
my proto cal scout, with one comp damp at 20db gets under the best active scanner system currently?
Why in the fck are scrub scouts whining again?
Looking at you Gavro, Sir Dukey, Ace Boone.
Fack it, might as well board the hype-train again. At least there's tracks this time.
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CrotchGrab 360
Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase
1629
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Posted - 2014.12.09 19:05:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Pretty sure we never said active.
Since, you know, the active scanner requires you to do something and is not a 360 degree wall hack.
want some ointment for that BURN?
This is a good way to balance things, you don't get the full benefit passively; you have to spec into something
and forego the use of a weapon to help your team, that's always how you should truly benefit from something in this game.
GG
DUST VIDEOS
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
5711
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Posted - 2014.12.09 19:20:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:So my ass can be detected by a scan that comes every 20 seconds for 5 seconds, and is 90 degrees?
I'll take that over 24/7 360 degrees scanning. Except it's not either/or It's both Gal Logi can see you with his 360-¦ scan and light you up to check which way you are facingGǪ before Gal Logi and Gal Heavy come bursting in to give you HMG hard loving. whats stopping scouts from doing it? oh I know... they would rather have their Frisbee REs
Logi has better Passive range, more slots and Gal has the Bonus to Active scanners
As to RE'sGǪ does your butt still hurt over that?
Only time I remember hitting you with RE's I..
Didn't frisbee those at you set em as a trap
lolled hard when you bounced off the ceiling
If your butt was not camped on the stairs I would not have had the time to set one bait and two covers on you.. but meh
MOAR Ladders
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
8699
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Posted - 2014.12.09 19:45:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Too bad we can't change the efficiency of the gallogi, it's hardcoded, apparantly. No, don't misunderstand me. This isn't exactly a bad thing, IF you want to remove scouts from being recon tools. Think about it this way, Powerful Gal logi scans would force medium frames to DAMP to avoid them. So long as its POSSIBLE to avoid those scans, you will have med frames dampening to get under them. Damped Med frames however, would then be targeted by scouts. They may dodge active scanners, but they can't avoid the scouts. So if they get killed by scouts, what will they do? Their own scouts will start targeting the scouts. See how it works? It's not necessarily BAD, but it does shift the scouts role, from "Detect the masses" to "Detect the damped" Just some thought on this before I head out to take my chem final. Wish me luck. Good luck ;)
Thanks!
I'm fairly certain I rocked it, and I also found out I got a 92% on my Chem Lab Final that I took earlier.
Great way to reward myself today, with 1.10 Dust for a few hours.
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KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.12.09 19:50:00 -
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Dauth Jenkins wrote:
.... do you know how expensive those are? you cant just throw those things around.
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Sergeant Sazu
Kitties of Doom
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Posted - 2014.12.09 20:20:00 -
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Dust User wrote:Dauth Jenkins wrote:
.... do you know how expensive those are? you cant just throw those things around.
lolpoors
lolrich players that don't share their mountains of ISK and tell us to get good while they steamroll pubs in proto; subsequently making it kinda hard to "get good".
Disclaimer: Making a generalized statement, not presumtuously pointing fingers.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.12.09 20:36:00 -
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1. Would love to seek the active scanner efficacy be effected by base suit stats.
2. Would love to see various actions light you up on scanner such as sprinting; Idump; shooting and the loudest of all active scanning.
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Dust User
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.12.09 20:44:00 -
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Sergeant Sazu wrote:Dust User wrote:Dauth Jenkins wrote:
.... do you know how expensive those are? you cant just throw those things around.
lolpoors lolrich players that don't share their mountains of ISK and tell us to get good while they steamroll pubs in proto; subsequently making it kinda hard to "get good". Disclaimer: Making a generalized statement, not presumtuously pointing fingers.
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Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
1270
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Posted - 2014.12.09 20:45:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Pretty sure we never said active.
Since, you know, the active scanner requires you to do something and is not a 360 degree wall hack. So the best recon tool in the game is now the Gal Logi?
2.5 million sp worth of scout not as good as a gal logi with 4 scanners.
Chocolate Juice
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Aidualc
LATINOS KILLERS CORP
Dark Taboo
18
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Posted - 2014.12.09 20:51:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Aidualc wrote:Bright Cloud wrote:1 piece of equipment is that makes it now the best recon suit and that is the Creodron flux active scanner.
Scan range: 200m
scan angle: 90 degree
scan precision on a gal. logi: 21DB
So why should i move in with a scout suit to check the situation if i can sit far away with a gal.logi and just pop scans into that direction? Scouts are dead you murdered effectively a whole class. Gotta give it to you if you do something then you do it mercyless. Nope.. the best scan is CreoDron Proximity Active Scan Range: 60m scan angle: 45 degree scan presicion: 21db 15 sec visibility (full Logi Gal) 15sec. cool (yeah instant scanning) And is Like : "did you see the blurry spot in the wall guys... yeah the cloacked scout with a red arrow over the head?... you can kill it !! boys !!" Scanning 200m is just for looking a Sniper, and only in tactical position in a Planetary Conquest Battle. not for Public Contract. so wait, my proto cal scout, with one comp damp at 20db gets under the best active scanner system currently? Why in the fck are scrub scouts whining again? Looking at you Gavro, Sir Dukey, Ace Boone.
Nop, Duvolle Focused Active Scanner gets 15db
Only Gallente scout + 3 Complex Dampers is barely "safe", because didn-¦t appair in the radar, but the scan message said : "Some error", and you know that maybe a scout cloacked is nerby....
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Sergeant Sazu
Kitties of Doom
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Posted - 2014.12.09 20:59:00 -
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Dust User wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:Dust User wrote:Dauth Jenkins wrote:
.... do you know how expensive those are? you cant just throw those things around.
lolpoors lolrich players that don't share their mountains of ISK and tell us to get good while they steamroll pubs in proto; subsequently making it kinda hard to "get good". Disclaimer: Making a generalized statement, not presumtuously pointing fingers. lolpubs
So sorry that I don't chase the meta and earn the respect of PC corps.
So sorry that I don't Q sync into FW.
Pubs are where I'll be most of the time. It's my only choice by elimination.
It'd be nice if we had our corp battles back. >_>
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RayRay James
Titans of Phoenix
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Posted - 2014.12.09 21:39:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Pretty sure we never said active.
Since, you know, the active scanner requires you to do something and is not a 360 degree wall hack. So the best recon tool in the game is now the Gal Logi? 2.5 million sp worth of scout not as good as a gal logi with 4 scanners.
damn, someone who has to invest in a proto suit and a proto scanner and spend more isk per loss can scan you (IF they bother using the suit), your life is so hard.
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
3525
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Posted - 2014.12.09 21:54:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Pretty sure we never said active.
Since, you know, the active scanner requires you to do something and is not a 360 degree wall hack. So the best recon tool in the game is now the Gal Logi? 2.5 million sp worth of scout not as good as a gal logi with 4 scanners.
What's the point in mentioning the SP? The gallogi costs just as much as a scout in terms of sp.
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roblox098
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
26
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Posted - 2014.12.09 22:13:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:I thought it was the exact opposite
I 10\/3 5(0/_/75
i also love leet
Scout ck.0 and mk.0
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
6230
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Posted - 2014.12.09 22:20:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Pretty sure we never said active.
Since, you know, the active scanner requires you to do something and is not a 360 degree wall hack. So the best recon tool in the game is now the Gal Logi? 2.5 million sp worth of scout not as good as a gal logi with 4 scanners. What's the point in mentioning the SP? The gallogi costs just as much as a scout in terms of sp.
Not to mention a Gal Logi with 4 Scanners IS a ridiculously EXPENSIVE (and dumb) fit. SPECIALLY with 4 proto Scanners XD
Amarr Logi, Scout, Assault , Sentinel and soon Commando. Check MY loyalty Empress o7
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gustavo acosta
Capital Acquisitions LLC
General Tso's Alliance
564
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Posted - 2014.12.09 22:54:00 -
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1.10 Patch notes wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Pretty sure we never said active.
Since, you know, the active scanner requires you to do something and is not a 360 degree wall hack. * Enemy orientation has been removed from all scan results.
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Posted - 2014.12.09 23:07:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:So the best recon tool in the game is now the Gal Logi? 2.5 million sp worth of scout not as good as a gal logi with 4 scanners. What's the point in mentioning the SP? The gallogi costs just as much as a scout in terms of sp.
Not to mention a Gal Logi with 4 Scanners IS a ridiculously EXPENSIVE (and dumb) fit. SPECIALLY with 4 proto Scanners XD
But it is possible to use (it's like a scout would equip 2 cloak field), my thinking is
Quote: if you want eliminate the probability of active scanner spam do them like the cloak field (only 1 for suit).
or not restrict scouts to only 1 fields for suit because that is also a ridiculous fitting.
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Meee One
Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki
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Posted - 2014.12.10 00:35:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Pretty sure we never said active.
Since, you know, the active scanner requires you to do something and is not a 360 degree wall hack. So the best recon tool in the game is now the Gal Logi? define best. Being able to detect the vast majority of players in the game (Gal Logi scans are very difficult to dodge if you are NOT scout), along with them now also being able to share those scans with the TEAM and those scans are now more powerful than passive scans (With the arrow now included) Literally the best recon suit in the game. Why walk over to the objective with a sneaky scout and see whats up, when you can stand 80m away and *Click* Oh there they are. Granted, Scouts still have a role. It just isn't recon. Their role is stealth. That's it. Cloak Nerf and range amp nerf means that scouts have some severely nerfed passive scans compared to before. Hell, the LOGI is better at passive scanning than we are. Scouts are only good for dodging scans, and finding other damped suits. They are all now assassin suits.
Have you read the suit descriptions?
They are supposed to be assassins.
Not scan masters,not light assaults,assassins.
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Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.10 00:52:00 -
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RayRay James wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Pretty sure we never said active.
Since, you know, the active scanner requires you to do something and is not a 360 degree wall hack. So the best recon tool in the game is now the Gal Logi? 2.5 million sp worth of scout not as good as a gal logi with 4 scanners. damn, someone who has to invest in a proto suit and a proto scanner and spend more isk per loss can scan you (IF they bother using the suit), your life is so hard.
You act like scouts don't spend sp in ewar modules. Bish please, come back with a better argument.
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