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BL4CKST4R Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 3426	Posted - 2014.12.08 00:12:00 - [1] - Quote The idea is to take the current assault and make them into the "1" version of assault suits and then releasing a more racial tank specialized assault and branding it the "2" assault. For example for the Caldari, the Ck.2 assault would be one that sacrifices armor for an equal amount of shields. For the gallente the gk.2 will sacrifice more shields and shield repair for armor and armor repair. The amarr will sacrifice shields and shield rep for more armor. Minmatar will sacrifice both armor and shields for better repair systems and speed. The 0 brand models should be reserved for EWAR specialized assault suits, if ans when more specializations are released. For those that don't know in beta there was just the Caldari assault and two variants of it, the vk.1 and the vk.2. The vk.1 was a armor and shields but slightly more specialized in armor usage, while the vk.2 was specialized in shield usage and wa amazing. supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 118	Posted - 2014.12.08 00:48:00 - [2] - Quote Not bad. I remember. Old times 48th Special Operations Force. "Alone, we are lethal, but as a team, we dominate"
THE-PIMP-NAMED-SLICKBACK Direct Action Resources 255	Posted - 2014.12.08 02:31:00 - [3] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: The idea is to take the current assault and make them into the "1" version of assault suits and then releasing a more racial tank specialized assault and branding it the "2" assault. For example for the Caldari, the Ck.2 assault would be one that sacrifices armor for an equal amount of shields. For the gallente the gk.2 will sacrifice more shields and shield repair for armor and armor repair. The amarr will sacrifice shields and shield rep for more armor. Minmatar will sacrifice both armor and shields for better repair systems and speed. The 0 brand models should be reserved for EWAR specialized assault suits, if ans when more specializations are released. For those that don't know in beta there was just the Caldari assault and two variants of it, the vk.1 and the vk.2. The vk.1 was a armor and shields but slightly more specialized in armor usage, while the vk.2 was specialized in shield usage and wa amazing. "Amazing" lol. Back then people had a singular perception of those type 2's/vk1's, they sucked cause you couldn't dual tank. That aside I would like to see the return of racial based tank suits, more dropsuit diversity is always nice. The One And Only
Racro 01 Arifistan 501st Knights of Leanbox 463	Posted - 2014.12.08 02:37:00 - [4] - Quote I rember my gall scout type 2 and type b. think its set up was something like. 2 highs. at type 2. 3 at type b 3 lows at type 2 4 at type b 1 light weapon slot. no grenades. no sidearm 2 equipment slots. 2 equipment slots. if only this was how current scout layouts looked. and its hp was above average but still enough to take a beating. *Elite Gallenten Soldier*
Cat Merc Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 13570	Posted - 2014.12.08 04:29:00 - [5] - Quote Oh god, why did you have to activate my nostalgia senses? YOU MONSTER?! Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++
Cat Merc Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 13570	Posted - 2014.12.08 04:30:00 - [6] - Quote THE-PIMP-NAMED-SLICKBACK wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: The idea is to take the current assault and make them into the "1" version of assault suits and then releasing a more racial tank specialized assault and branding it the "2" assault. For example for the Caldari, the Ck.2 assault would be one that sacrifices armor for an equal amount of shields. For the gallente the gk.2 will sacrifice more shields and shield repair for armor and armor repair. The amarr will sacrifice shields and shield rep for more armor. Minmatar will sacrifice both armor and shields for better repair systems and speed. The 0 brand models should be reserved for EWAR specialized assault suits, if ans when more specializations are released. For those that don't know in beta there was just the Caldari assault and two variants of it, the vk.1 and the vk.2. The vk.1 was a armor and shields but slightly more specialized in armor usage, while the vk.2 was specialized in shield usage and wa amazing. "Amazing" lol. Back then people had a singular perception of those type 2's/vk1's, they sucked cause you couldn't dual tank. That aside I would like to see the return of racial based tank suits, more dropsuit diversity is always nice. Really? I strictly remember everyone and their mother using those, barely touching the vk0. They were quicker, and you got more shields than you sacrificed armor, so it was a win win. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3844	Posted - 2014.12.08 05:01:00 - [7] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: THE-PIMP-NAMED-SLICKBACK wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: The idea is to take the current assault and make them into the "1" version of assault suits and then releasing a more racial tank specialized assault and branding it the "2" assault. For example for the Caldari, the Ck.2 assault would be one that sacrifices armor for an equal amount of shields. For the gallente the gk.2 will sacrifice more shields and shield repair for armor and armor repair. The amarr will sacrifice shields and shield rep for more armor. Minmatar will sacrifice both armor and shields for better repair systems and speed. The 0 brand models should be reserved for EWAR specialized assault suits, if ans when more specializations are released. For those that don't know in beta there was just the Caldari assault and two variants of it, the vk.1 and the vk.2. The vk.1 was a armor and shields but slightly more specialized in armor usage, while the vk.2 was specialized in shield usage and wa amazing. "Amazing" lol. Back then people had a singular perception of those type 2's/vk1's, they sucked cause you couldn't dual tank. That aside I would like to see the return of racial based tank suits, more dropsuit diversity is always nice. Really? I strictly remember everyone and their mother using those, barely touching the vk0. They were quicker, and you got more shields than you sacrificed armor, so it was a win win. Pretty much. I think they had marginally better resources with a shift to more shielding which was king at the time. The Type 2 scouts were interesting though, no sidearm and 2 equipment if I remember? Hotfix Delta Sentinel eHP Calcs
THE-PIMP-NAMED-SLICKBACK Direct Action Resources 255	Posted - 2014.12.08 05:16:00 - [8] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: THE-PIMP-NAMED-SLICKBACK wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: The idea is to take the current assault and make them into the "1" version of assault suits and then releasing a more racial tank specialized assault and branding it the "2" assault. For example for the Caldari, the Ck.2 assault would be one that sacrifices armor for an equal amount of shields. For the gallente the gk.2 will sacrifice more shields and shield repair for armor and armor repair. The amarr will sacrifice shields and shield rep for more armor. Minmatar will sacrifice both armor and shields for better repair systems and speed. The 0 brand models should be reserved for EWAR specialized assault suits, if ans when more specializations are released. For those that don't know in beta there was just the Caldari assault and two variants of it, the vk.1 and the vk.2. The vk.1 was a armor and shields but slightly more specialized in armor usage, while the vk.2 was specialized in shield usage and wa amazing. "Amazing" lol. Back then people had a singular perception of those type 2's/vk1's, they sucked cause you couldn't dual tank. That aside I would like to see the return of racial based tank suits, more dropsuit diversity is always nice. Really? I strictly remember everyone and their mother using those, barely touching the vk0. They were quicker, and you got more shields than you sacrificed armor, so it was a win win. Maybe you're right who knows, I was a scrub back then anyway. I used to get pissy back then when people wrecked my 400/400 vk0 in like 3 seconds. Really wish they would bring back the old soundtrack though, having the music get dramatic the second you got into combat really helped with the immersion. The One And Only
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2857	Posted - 2014.12.08 06:51:00 - [9] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Really? I strictly remember everyone and their mother using those, barely touching the vk0. They were quicker, and you got more shields than you sacrificed armor, so it was a win win. Yup, most top players used them, including CasanovaX before his vanishing act as well as protoman. As for the previous comment mentioning the old soundtrack, hell yes. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
BL4CKST4R Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 3433	Posted - 2014.12.08 07:18:00 - [10] - Quote Editted OP with a spreadsheet. Changed my mind on renaming the 0 brand suits to 1 since it would be a lot of work along with adding the 2 brand suits, so instead the 0 brand suits will remain what we have and then the 1 brand suits will have the more specialized tank. supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 398	Posted - 2014.12.08 07:55:00 - [11] - Quote Hmm I really love these suits, more specialised in their side (shield or amor). All of them seems good except the mk.0/mk.1 which are illogical IMO. I think the delays should be reduced on the mk.0 as it's the shield one, and the mk.1 have the mk.0 delays as it's the armor one. The mk.1 could have a little armor rep buff to balance it and make it an interesting armor specialised dual tanked suit. Assault, Logi, Scout, Heavy.. What do you need?
BL4CKST4R Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 3435	Posted - 2014.12.08 08:00:00 - [12] - Quote Sequal Rise wrote: Hmm I really love these suits, more specialised in their side (shield or amor). All of them seems good except the mk.0/mk.1 which are illogical IMO. I think the delays should be reduced on the mk.0 as it's the shield one, and the mk.1 have the mk.0 delays as it's the armor one. The mk.1 could have a little armor rep buff to balance it and make it an interesting armor specialised dual tanked suit. I cant do anything with the mk.0 since that is the standard suit. The mk.1 I made it a shield tanked suit, as the mk.0 is a dual tanked suit. Minmatar are predominantly speed and shield tanked, so for the shield tanked mk.1 speed was slightly reduced (still fastest assault suit) and delays were reduced and shield increased, since this suit now focuses on shields with a heavy shield tank, and some regulators the mk.1 suit would be amazing with some kin catz. supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 398	Posted - 2014.12.08 08:09:00 - [13] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: Sequal Rise wrote: Hmm I really love these suits, more specialised in their side (shield or amor). All of them seems good except the mk.0/mk.1 which are illogical IMO. I think the delays should be reduced on the mk.0 as it's the shield one, and the mk.1 have the mk.0 delays as it's the armor one. The mk.1 could have a little armor rep buff to balance it and make it an interesting armor specialised dual tanked suit. I cant do anything with the mk.0 since that is the standard suit. The mk.1 I made it a shield tanked suit, as the mk.0 is a dual tanked suit. Minmatar are predominantly speed and shield tanked, so for the shield tanked mk.1 speed was slightly reduced (still fastest assault suit) and delays were reduced and shield increased, since this suit now focuses on shields with a heavy shield tank, and some regulators the mk.1 suit would be amazing with some kin catz. Did you update the spreadsheet? It's not what I see on it ^^ It's written that you gave a armor buff on it instead of a Shield buff. And then there's another version.. Could you clear this? Thanks :) Assault, Logi, Scout, Heavy.. What do you need?
BL4CKST4R Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 3435	Posted - 2014.12.08 08:14:00 - [14] - Quote Sequal Rise wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: Sequal Rise wrote: Hmm I really love these suits, more specialised in their side (shield or amor). All of them seems good except the mk.0/mk.1 which are illogical IMO. I think the delays should be reduced on the mk.0 as it's the shield one, and the mk.1 have the mk.0 delays as it's the armor one. The mk.1 could have a little armor rep buff to balance it and make it an interesting armor specialised dual tanked suit. I cant do anything with the mk.0 since that is the standard suit. The mk.1 I made it a shield tanked suit, as the mk.0 is a dual tanked suit. Minmatar are predominantly speed and shield tanked, so for the shield tanked mk.1 speed was slightly reduced (still fastest assault suit) and delays were reduced and shield increased, since this suit now focuses on shields with a heavy shield tank, and some regulators the mk.1 suit would be amazing with some kin catz. Did you update the spreadsheet? It's not what I see on it ^^ It's written that you gave a armor buff on it instead of a Shield buff. And then there's another version.. Could you clear this? Thanks :) Ooops I see my mistake I reversed the values for armor and shields on accident, fixed now :) supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
Killer's Coys Prima Gallicus 182	Posted - 2014.12.08 11:44:00 - [15] - Quote I really like this idea! And add a skill in the tree after racial suits Something like 1) Caldari medium frame 2) Caldari assault 3) Caldari specialized assault I imagine the things like that : The "vk.0" have the same slots (*) as the traditional assaults, they just have a specific specialization (in the sheet) The vk.0 will not me much better than the traditional assault, but give them a great advantage in their side (armor or shield) In this way, a Caldari Assault vk.0 would be an amazing shield tanker, but can't make dual tanking (yeah some days ago I've seen a Caldari Assault with 450 hp armor... So sad...) And this thing would give to the veterans an other thing to skill into. But not make them better than traditional assault dropsuit, I think, is better. just SPECIALIZATION. (*) and change the PG/CPU. For example a Caldari Assault vk.0 should have more cpu and less pg than the ck.0 assault. Thoughts? Like a dream
BL4CKST4R Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 3436	Posted - 2014.12.08 12:22:00 - [16] - Quote Killer's Coys wrote: I really like this idea! And add a skill in the tree after racial suits Something like 1) Caldari medium frame 2) Caldari assault 3) Caldari specialized assault I imagine the things like that : The "vk.0" have the same slots (*) as the traditional assaults, they just have a specific specialization (in the sheet) The vk.0 will not me much better than the traditional assault, but give them a great advantage in their side (armor or shield) In this way, a Caldari Assault vk.0 would be an amazing shield tanker, but can't make dual tanking (yeah some days ago I've seen a Caldari Assault with 450 hp armor... So sad...) And this thing would give to the veterans an other thing to skill into. But not make them better than traditional assault dropsuit, I think, is better. just SPECIALIZATION. (*) and change the PG/CPU. For example a Caldari Assault vk.0 should have more cpu and less pg than the ck.0 assault. Thoughts? Well that's more for type II suits, these suits do not sacrifice nor gain anything over the regular suits so the idea was to have these be released alongside regular suits. supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
Killer's Coys Prima Gallicus 182	Posted - 2014.12.08 13:07:00 - [17] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: Killer's Coys wrote: I really like this idea! And add a skill in the tree after racial suits Something like 1) Caldari medium frame 2) Caldari assault 3) Caldari specialized assault I imagine the things like that : The "vk.0" have the same slots (*) as the traditional assaults, they just have a specific specialization (in the sheet) The vk.0 will not me much better than the traditional assault, but give them a great advantage in their side (armor or shield) In this way, a Caldari Assault vk.0 would be an amazing shield tanker, but can't make dual tanking (yeah some days ago I've seen a Caldari Assault with 450 hp armor... So sad...) And this thing would give to the veterans an other thing to skill into. But not make them better than traditional assault dropsuit, I think, is better. just SPECIALIZATION. (*) and change the PG/CPU. For example a Caldari Assault vk.0 should have more cpu and less pg than the ck.0 assault. Thoughts? Well that's more for type II suits, these suits do not sacrifice nor gain anything over the regular suits so the idea was to have these be released alongside regular suits. Ho okk I didn't understood :p So the idea is to put those suits with the traditional dropsuit? At the same rank? Like a dream
BL4CKST4R Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 3436	Posted - 2014.12.08 13:11:00 - [18] - Quote Killer's Coys wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: Killer's Coys wrote: I really like this idea! And add a skill in the tree after racial suits Something like 1) Caldari medium frame 2) Caldari assault 3) Caldari specialized assault I imagine the things like that : The "vk.0" have the same slots (*) as the traditional assaults, they just have a specific specialization (in the sheet) The vk.0 will not me much better than the traditional assault, but give them a great advantage in their side (armor or shield) In this way, a Caldari Assault vk.0 would be an amazing shield tanker, but can't make dual tanking (yeah some days ago I've seen a Caldari Assault with 450 hp armor... So sad...) And this thing would give to the veterans an other thing to skill into. But not make them better than traditional assault dropsuit, I think, is better. just SPECIALIZATION. (*) and change the PG/CPU. For example a Caldari Assault vk.0 should have more cpu and less pg than the ck.0 assault. Thoughts? Well that's more for type II suits, these suits do not sacrifice nor gain anything over the regular suits so the idea was to have these be released alongside regular suits. Ho okk I didn't understood :p So the idea is to put those suits with the traditional dropsuit? At the same rank? Yep, although now I don't remember if I got the naming right because I remember a type a suit and a type b suit gonna have to do research lol. Regardless, the way they were setup you unlocked a new suit every level, so you unlocked the proto vk type b at level 4 and the type a at level 5 iirc. supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
BL4CKST4R Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 3436	Posted - 2014.12.08 13:29:00 - [19] - Quote Ok so I made some mistakes with my wording because I personally forgot the naming structure of the original suits. At standard level we had: Type-I (armor) Type-II (shields) Advanced: A-series (armor) B-series (shields) Proto: Vk.0 (armor) Vk.1 (shields) My mistake was that I was using vk.1 and vk.2 and that's because I was thinking of the type one and type 2 suits cuz I was a noob and didn't have proto back then :) supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 400	Posted - 2014.12.09 06:47:00 - [20] - Quote Bump, I love the idea! Assault, Logi, Scout, Heavy.. What do you need?

Zindorak G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1392	Posted - 2014.12.09 12:40:00 - [21] - Quote Yas Amarr Assault with 1200 Armor is naow possible Pokemon master and Tekken Lord Give me da iskiez Gk0 Scout yay :)
BL4CKST4R Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 3442	Posted - 2014.12.09 12:49:00 - [22] - Quote Zindorak wrote: Yas Amarr Assault with 1200 Armor is naow possible Loses even more speed to achieve that though supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 1297	Posted - 2014.12.09 14:18:00 - [23] - Quote never seen this but they seem useless. they dont really offer anything significan to warrant theyre introduction. did they have different bonuses? like how a sacrilege has different bonuses from a zealot? otherwise the only difference is a small number of hp. bonuses need to be built into suits then this could work have 1 amarr assault as is with the laser buff and a damage buff. or have the other assault with the laser buff and a tank buff for armor resistances. could be cool. Don't vote for iron wolf saber. Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.


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