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Myron Kundera
The Generals
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Posted - 2014.12.05 17:37:00 -
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*Read it with Chris Rock voice*
Number one, stay away from his f*ck*ng optimal range. Yes, it is a CQ weapon and yes it will tear you a new one if you come close to this one.
Number two, use a medium-long range weapon to engage the Breach AR user. As you can see, the optimal range of a Breach AR is pretty low (40-45m), therefore, if you use a weapon that has a higher optimal than that, you will deal 100% damage to him and he will deal less damage to you cause he will be on his effective range, which in turn reduces damage dealt.
Number three, learn how to aim. It wont matter which range you-¦re in, if you can-¦t hit a barn with your weapon of choice, you will most likely lose any engagement, at any range, with any weapon.
Number four, use common sense. "F*ck this sh*t, i-¦m gonna kill that Breach AR wielding SOB with my shield tanking suit shooting him at 10 meters". No, no, no ladies and gentlemen, you have to learn that the Breach AR was designed to keel at CQ shield tankers, so think again.
Number five. Bring you-¦re favorite homies with you on your battles. Two people deal more damage than just one, three even better, so squad up and see those pesky Breach AR users die in agony.
Hope this helps!
(Check Chris Rock video in YouTube, "How not to get your *ss kicked by the police", it-¦s very funny and accurate).
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.12.05 17:45:00 -
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I prefer the straightforward option of simply shooting them in the face until they die.
Despite many claims that the weapon grants immortality, godhood, and a number of similar perks, I have not had a problem with doing this.
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LUGMOS
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Posted - 2014.12.05 17:51:00 -
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40-45 meter optimal? CQC?
Tell me, what is the range of the CR, a medium range rifle?
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Atiim
Titans of Phoenix
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Posted - 2014.12.05 17:54:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:40-45 meter optimal? CQC?
Tell me, what is the range of the CR, a medium range rifle? 67m.
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Myron Kundera
The Generals
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Posted - 2014.12.05 17:55:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:40-45 meter optimal? CQC?
Tell me, what is the range of the CR, a medium range rifle?
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.12.05 18:48:00 -
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1, you don't have to put *ss. We can say ass.
2, I can't hit a barn with my CR... because there is no fucking barn!
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.12.05 19:08:00 -
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ALL OF MY YES
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Daddrobit
You Can Call Me Daddy
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Posted - 2014.12.05 19:18:00 -
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Myron Kundera wrote:*Read it with Chris Rock voice*
You can't tell me how to live my life!!!
*Reads it in Christopher Walkins voice instead*
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robin williams' ghost
Damaged Beyond Repair
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Posted - 2014.12.05 19:48:00 -
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Number one, shut the fu(k up |
sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.12.05 19:58:00 -
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robin williams' ghost wrote:Number one, shut the fu(k up You still are the only troll who manages to make me pity them.
You're such a disgrace to the trollkind, try with emotion, not hoping for likes.
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Ku Shala
The Generals
1039
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Posted - 2014.12.05 20:17:00 -
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RR or BrAR that is the question that shouldnt be thats the hate not how many people use it that its easier to use a cqc for range can kill armour targets at 70 m with ease
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LUGMOS
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Posted - 2014.12.05 20:19:00 -
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Atiim wrote:LUGMOS wrote:40-45 meter optimal? CQC?
Tell me, what is the range of the CR, a medium range rifle? 67m. Hmm... I still stick to my idea that breach SHOULD be >20m...
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THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.12.05 20:47:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I prefer the straightforward option of simply shooting them in the face until they die.
Despite many claims that the weapon grants immortality, godhood, and a number of similar perks, I have not had a problem with doing this. I mean, I dropped a 40 bomb in a match where my pretty competent squad was bitching the entire time about scouts and heavies.
BrAR and Flaylock combo is broken as ****. I shouldn't be able to go 42-3 in a 350 HP suit.
More like Titans of Penis amirite?
Come play a better game.
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Mejt0
Fat'Kids are Hard to Kidnap
557
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Posted - 2014.12.05 21:21:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I prefer the straightforward option of simply shooting them in the face until they die.
Despite many claims that the weapon grants immortality, godhood, and a number of similar perks, I have not had a problem with doing this. I mean, I dropped a 40 bomb in a match where my pretty competent squad was bitching the entire time about scouts and heavies. BrAR and Flaylock combo is broken as ****. I shouldn't be able to go 42-3 in a 350 HP suit.
BrAR < ScR . ScR > lol other guns? Flaylock < meele.
Only 43 kills facing academy fresh people?
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Hyuan BubblePOP
Uber Wanabes
21
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Posted - 2014.12.05 21:27:00 -
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Myron Kundera wrote:(Check Chris Rock video in YouTube, "How not to get your *ss kicked by the police", it-¦s very funny and accurate).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8
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robin williams' ghost
Damaged Beyond Repair
191
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Posted - 2014.12.05 21:48:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:robin williams' ghost wrote:Number one, shut the fu(k up You still are the only troll who manages to make me pity them. You're such a disgrace to the trollkind, try with emotion, not hoping for likes. Ok dude, idk what your problem is, but you obviously have a hard on for me. Sorry to disappoint you but I'm not gay. Next if you had half a brain you would realize the op was essentially making a spoof thread, for lack of a better term, based on a Chris rock skit that started with, number one, stfu. I simply found it funny and made that comment to let the op know there was someone who actually got the joke. Now, that we've got that straight you need to stfu yourself and find someone else's cocck to ride |
sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.12.05 21:54:00 -
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robin williams' ghost wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:robin williams' ghost wrote:Number one, shut the fu(k up You still are the only troll who manages to make me pity them. You're such a disgrace to the trollkind, try with emotion, not hoping for likes. Ok dude, idk what your problem is, but you obviously have a hard on for me. Sorry to disappoint you but I'm not gay. Next if you had half a brain you would realize the op was essentially making a spoof thread, for lack of a better term, based on a Chris rock skit that started with, number one, stfu. I simply found it funny and made that comment to let the op know there was someone who actually got the joke. Now, that we've got that straight you need to stfu yourself and find someone else's cocck to ride You call me gay? You are older than 12 right? I recently got married to my gf I've had for 4 years so no, not gay. I realised it just a second ago, but it came off as 'Just shut the fuck up OP' the first time.
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LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
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Posted - 2014.12.05 21:57:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:THUNDERGROOVE wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I prefer the straightforward option of simply shooting them in the face until they die.
Despite many claims that the weapon grants immortality, godhood, and a number of similar perks, I have not had a problem with doing this. I mean, I dropped a 40 bomb in a match where my pretty competent squad was bitching the entire time about scouts and heavies. BrAR and Flaylock combo is broken as ****. I shouldn't be able to go 42-3 in a 350 HP suit. BrAR < ScR . ScR > lol other guns? Flaylock < meele. Only 43 kills facing academy fresh people? Lololo!
Thunder could rek you any day. Please refrain from insulting people that you've never met before and most likely have not seen their skill.
Pliz... I hate the ignorant insulations in these parts...
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robin williams' ghost
Damaged Beyond Repair
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Posted - 2014.12.05 22:02:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:robin williams' ghost wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:robin williams' ghost wrote:Number one, shut the fu(k up You still are the only troll who manages to make me pity them. You're such a disgrace to the trollkind, try with emotion, not hoping for likes. Ok dude, idk what your problem is, but you obviously have a hard on for me. Sorry to disappoint you but I'm not gay. Next if you had half a brain you would realize the op was essentially making a spoof thread, for lack of a better term, based on a Chris rock skit that started with, number one, stfu. I simply found it funny and made that comment to let the op know there was someone who actually got the joke. Now, that we've got that straight you need to stfu yourself and find someone else's cocck to ride You call me gay? You are older than 12 right? I recently got married to my gf I've had for 4 years so no, not gay. I realised it just a second ago, but it came off as 'Just shut the fuc k up OP' the first time. I called you gay cause it seems you have a little thing for me. And no I'm not 12, maybe 12x3 ish Also I do more than just come around to troll, though I admit I'm guilty of it time to time. |
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Posted - 2014.12.05 22:27:00 -
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There is always more than one way to skin a pers... cat.
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Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
1011
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Posted - 2014.12.06 00:34:00 -
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Myron Kundera wrote:How not to get your *ss kicked by the poli...Breach AR:
1) Have more HP than the other guy 2) Also have a Breach AR
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
1455
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Posted - 2014.12.06 00:36:00 -
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:Myron Kundera wrote:How not to get your *ss kicked by the poli...Breach AR:
1) Have more HP than the other guy 2) Also have a Breach AR FTFY Funny cuz it's true
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Helghus Resther
Heisen Republic
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Posted - 2014.12.06 00:52:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Atiim wrote:LUGMOS wrote:40-45 meter optimal? CQC?
Tell me, what is the range of the CR, a medium range rifle? 67m. Hmm... I still stick to my idea that breach SHOULD be >20m...
That'll happen. I really do wonder how you guys sit around here bitching about the Breach AR. I'm taking them out in head to head with the GK-13 with damage mods.
That's your hint to try it.
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Lloyd Orfay
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
259
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Posted - 2014.12.06 01:49:00 -
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Myron Kundera wrote:*Read it with Chris Rock voice* Number one, stay away from his f*ck*ng optimal range. Yes, it is a CQ weapon and yes it will tear you a new one if you come close to this one. Number two, use a medium-long range weapon to engage the Breach AR user. As you can see, the optimal range of a Breach AR is pretty low (40-45m), therefore, if you use a weapon that has a higher optimal than that, you will deal 100% damage to him and he will deal less damage to you cause he will be on his effective range, which in turn reduces damage dealt. Number three, learn how to aim. It wont matter which range you-¦re in, if you can-¦t hit a barn with your weapon of choice, you will most likely lose any engagement, at any range, with any weapon. Number four, use common sense. "F*ck this sh*t, i-¦m gonna kill that Breach AR wielding SOB with my shield tanking suit shooting him at 10 meters". No, no, no ladies and gentlemen, you have to learn that the Breach AR was designed to keel at CQ shield tankers, so think again. Number five. Bring you-¦re favorite homies with you on your battles. Two people deal more damage than just one, three even better, so squad up and see those pesky Breach AR users die in agony. Number six. Use same or other high alpha damage CQ weapons to eliminate the threat (Shotguns, HMG, NK, PC, RE,etc.). Hope this helps! (Check Chris Rock video in YouTube, "How not to get your *ss kicked by the police", it-¦s very funny and accurate).
- The breach AR has more than 40-45m range..... It's effective range is 74m
- Everyone knows how to aim, but compared to a keyboard and mouse, you have limitations.
- It does't matter what defense you use, the BAR is part of the high alpha damage low limitation trend of guns, it will kill anyone quite quickly.
- Even with reinforcement, a Galmando, having its impractical damage bonus, will make the BAR even more powerful and will be able to take on two people at once depending on the players
- BAR users use it to be as prepared as possible, and they will be prepared for surprise attacks. The BAR user can stay out of the sentinel's effective range and kill them with no trouble. Plasma cannons are hard to use and unless you have pre-planted RES the delay will kill you with said BAR user.
Comedy doesn't counteract the fact that a weapon is too strong.
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Imp Smash
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
457
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Posted - 2014.12.06 02:39:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:THUNDERGROOVE wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I prefer the straightforward option of simply shooting them in the face until they die.
Despite many claims that the weapon grants immortality, godhood, and a number of similar perks, I have not had a problem with doing this. I mean, I dropped a 40 bomb in a match where my pretty competent squad was bitching the entire time about scouts and heavies. BrAR and Flaylock combo is broken as ****. I shouldn't be able to go 42-3 in a 350 HP suit. BrAR < ScR . ScR > lol other guns? Flaylock < meele. Only 43 kills facing academy fresh people?
Scout suit, broken hit detection when there is lag, small hit box. You going 42-3 had nothing to do with your gun. |
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The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
163
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Posted - 2014.12.06 02:53:00 -
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Funny. Reminds me of Chris Rock's skit about when is it ok for a white person to say the N word. That was funny.
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LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
1045
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Posted - 2014.12.06 04:32:00 -
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Helghus Resther wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Atiim wrote:LUGMOS wrote:40-45 meter optimal? CQC?
Tell me, what is the range of the CR, a medium range rifle? 67m. Hmm... I still stick to my idea that breach SHOULD be >20m... That'll happen. I really do wonder how you guys sit around here bitching about the Breach AR. I'm taking them out in head to head with the GK-13 with damage mods. That's your hint to try it. I'm not bitching... What do you think breaching is? Long range combat? It ******* common sense! You don't breach at long range!
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THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.12.06 07:11:00 -
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Imp Smash wrote: Scout suit, broken hit detection when there is lag, small hit box. You going 42-3 had nothing to do with your gun.
Considering I used of my 6 slots for ewar and one other is biotics and my suit is still slower than an average Minmatar assault with well over half the HP I'd have to disagree.
Hit detection works well on most of the weapons. Mainly, AR, ScR, CR, SMG, ScP, IoP, Flaylock. ScR is 4-5 shots and I'm dead. AR is 10. CR is three bursts. SMGs would be 15-20 shots. ScP is 5-6, Flaylock would only need a direct hit.
Don't even get me started about the HMG, which even most dedicated heavies will tell you is broken.
More like Titans of Penis amirite?
Come play a better game.
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brett morris518
is well hung
15
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Posted - 2014.12.06 09:55:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Helghus Resther wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Atiim wrote:LUGMOS wrote:40-45 meter optimal? CQC?
Tell me, what is the range of the CR, a medium range rifle? 67m. Hmm... I still stick to my idea that breach SHOULD be >20m... That'll happen. I really do wonder how you guys sit around here bitching about the Breach AR. I'm taking them out in head to head with the GK-13 with damage mods. That's your hint to try it. I'm not bitching... What do you think breaching is? Long range combat? It ******* common sense! You don't breach at long range!
So lets just have them change the name and problem solved!! Woo hoo!! |
Cat Merc
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
13548
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Posted - 2014.12.06 10:48:00 -
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20m optimal on a weapon that is only slightly better than other rifles. Yup, you guys are going to kill the weapon and turn it back into useless, GG.
Let me paint you a picture. The Breach AR has practically the same stats as the Duvolle in almost every way. >Except for hip fire accuracy and alpha damage.
The better hip fire accuracy means that the thing is deadly accurate unlike the Duvolle, and the Alpha damage gives it another advantage in certain types of engagements. Nerfing the rifle to HALF of its current optimal range would kill it.
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LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
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Posted - 2014.12.06 17:02:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:20m optimal on a weapon that is only slightly better than other rifles. Yup, you guys are going to kill the weapon and turn it back into useless, GG.
Let me paint you a picture. The Breach AR has practically the same stats as the Duvolle in almost every way. >Except for hip fire accuracy and alpha damage.
The better hip fire accuracy means that the thing is deadly accurate unlike the Duvolle, and the Alpha damage gives it another advantage in certain types of engagements. Nerfing the rifle to HALF of its current optimal range would kill it. Unless... It was retardedly good at what it is supposed to so, breaching.
Raise the damage by ~5 for every 10 meters taken off. Keep allelse the same.
And Cat Merc, do you think that under normal gameplay circumstamces, where do you think the breach outperforms the AR?
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Nirwanda Vaughns
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Posted - 2014.12.06 17:30:00 -
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BAR is pretty beasty upto about 70m tbh (with Op and SS 5) personally i'm happy to see it get the love it needed but with its current range it is slightly more powerful than it should be. if the max range was about 50m it'd help balance it out as a CQC weapon whereas atm its still kinda outclassing all the other variations because of the high damage and equivalent range of the standard AR variants. on the GalAss its an amazing weapon especially with proto suit skills too.
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Mex-0
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Posted - 2014.12.06 17:34:00 -
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....Or just wait for CCP to nerf the living daylights out of it yet again.
Meh, I give up on FW.
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Nirwanda Vaughns
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Posted - 2014.12.06 17:37:00 -
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Mex-0 wrote:....Or just wait for CCP to nerf the living daylights out of it yet again.
yup :( which is sad because the only thing making it 'OP' is just the range. bring that down to a more reasonable CQC range and its fixed. knowing CCP it'll get its damage dropped by 90%, clip size made to about 8 and its range 15m cos all the whiners
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Summa Militum
Hidd3n Dragon
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Posted - 2014.12.06 17:42:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Atiim wrote:LUGMOS wrote:40-45 meter optimal? CQC?
Tell me, what is the range of the CR, a medium range rifle? 67m. Hmm... I still stick to my idea that breach SHOULD be >20m...
Is that a joke? |
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Posted - 2014.12.06 17:52:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:BAR is pretty beasty upto about 70m tbh (with Op and SS 5) personally i'm happy to see it get the love it needed but with its current range it is slightly more powerful than it should be. if the max range was about 50m it'd help balance it out as a CQC weapon whereas atm its still kinda outclassing all the other variations because of the high damage and equivalent range of the standard AR variants. on the GalAss its an amazing weapon especially with proto suit skills too.
Beastly up to 70 meters? I don't think so. Since I have been playing this game I have been using the Assault Rifle about 99% of the time and the majority of that time it was the Breach Assault Rifle I have been using. I have plenty of experience with this weapon.
If you get taken out at 70 meters by a Breach Assault Rifle you most likely had several people firing at you that assisted in you dying. |
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Posted - 2014.12.06 18:16:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:BAR is pretty beasty upto about 70m tbh (with Op and SS 5) personally i'm happy to see it get the love it needed but with its current range it is slightly more powerful than it should be. if the max range was about 50m it'd help balance it out as a CQC weapon whereas atm its still kinda outclassing all the other variations because of the high damage and equivalent range of the standard AR variants. on the GalAss its an amazing weapon especially with proto suit skills too. Beastly up to 70 meters? I don't think so. Since I have been playing this game I have been using the Assault Rifle about 99% of the time and the majority of that time it was the Breach Assault Rifle I have been using. I have plenty of experience with this weapon. If you get taken out at 70 meters by a Breach Assault Rifle you most likely had several people firing at you that assisted in you dying.
no i mean i'm killing people at 70m pretty easily with it, for whats supposed to be a CQC weapon anyways. i've had plenty experience myself (2 n half years) but it seems more accurate (scoped) than say my CR/ACR (both rifles at lv5 Operation and SS) at similar ranges which is slightly broken. hip fire range is fine but the scoped range needs bringing down a bit
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.12.06 18:27:00 -
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I have dropped many opponents with BrAR at more than 60m. They were always out in the open without nearby cover allowing me the opportunity to RELOAD because I couldn't get it done with one clip at that distance.
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.12.06 18:31:00 -
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Lloyd Orfay wrote: The breach AR has more than 40-45m range..... It's effective range is 74m.
The 40-45 if optimal range. After that distance every shot loses dps the farther out it goes. After 74m there is no damage. I have never had a BrAR kill at 70m or more. If the distance is longer than 65m I move in closer or move on.
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Summa Militum
Hidd3n Dragon
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Posted - 2014.12.06 18:45:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:Summa Militum wrote:Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:BAR is pretty beasty upto about 70m tbh (with Op and SS 5) personally i'm happy to see it get the love it needed but with its current range it is slightly more powerful than it should be. if the max range was about 50m it'd help balance it out as a CQC weapon whereas atm its still kinda outclassing all the other variations because of the high damage and equivalent range of the standard AR variants. on the GalAss its an amazing weapon especially with proto suit skills too. Beastly up to 70 meters? I don't think so. Since I have been playing this game I have been using the Assault Rifle about 99% of the time and the majority of that time it was the Breach Assault Rifle I have been using. I have plenty of experience with this weapon. If you get taken out at 70 meters by a Breach Assault Rifle you most likely had several people firing at you that assisted in you dying. no i mean i'm killing people at 70m pretty easily with it, for whats supposed to be a CQC weapon anyways. i've had plenty experience myself (2 n half years) but it seems more accurate (scoped) than say my CR/ACR (both rifles at lv5 Operation and SS) at similar ranges which is slightly broken. hip fire range is fine but the scoped range needs bringing down a bit
The people you are killing at such far range with the Breach Assault Rifle might just be really crappy players who do not know how to create a decent dropsuit. We should not be trying to get weapons all changed up just so we can compensate those who don't know what they are doing; those people can learn.
Take me for example. The Kaalakiota Rail Rifle is my kryptonite. I get killed by the Rail Rifle more than I get killed by any other gun but I don't go around saying they should nerf the Rail Rifle; I learned to run away from that damn thing and find safety.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
8560
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Posted - 2014.12.06 20:14:00 -
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Atiim wrote:LUGMOS wrote:40-45 meter optimal? CQC?
Tell me, what is the range of the CR, a medium range rifle? 67m.
Gun really shines at that range. You trash every AR suit in that range, and most scramblers as well (Since most ScR users don't know how to space and place shots. They just spam it like crazy.)
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Nirwanda Vaughns
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Summa Militum wrote:Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:Summa Militum wrote:Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:BAR is pretty beasty upto about 70m tbh (with Op and SS 5) personally i'm happy to see it get the love it needed but with its current range it is slightly more powerful than it should be. if the max range was about 50m it'd help balance it out as a CQC weapon whereas atm its still kinda outclassing all the other variations because of the high damage and equivalent range of the standard AR variants. on the GalAss its an amazing weapon especially with proto suit skills too. Beastly up to 70 meters? I don't think so. Since I have been playing this game I have been using the Assault Rifle about 99% of the time and the majority of that time it was the Breach Assault Rifle I have been using. I have plenty of experience with this weapon. If you get taken out at 70 meters by a Breach Assault Rifle you most likely had several people firing at you that assisted in you dying. no i mean i'm killing people at 70m pretty easily with it, for whats supposed to be a CQC weapon anyways. i've had plenty experience myself (2 n half years) but it seems more accurate (scoped) than say my CR/ACR (both rifles at lv5 Operation and SS) at similar ranges which is slightly broken. hip fire range is fine but the scoped range needs bringing down a bit The people you are killing at such far range with the Breach Assault Rifle might just be really crappy players who do not know how to create a decent dropsuit. We should not be trying to get weapons all changed up just so we can compensate those who don't know what they are doing; those people can learn. Take me for example. The Kaalakiota Rail Rifle is my kryptonite. I get killed by the Rail Rifle more than I get killed by any other gun but I don't go around saying they should nerf the Rail Rifle; I learned to run away from that damn thing and find safety.
they vary in suit levels and things but its still pretty easy. the BAR shouldn't be hitting that far out though, i've wanted the BAR buffed for over a year and its finally gotten into a position of being competetive in CQC that it should be but the range does need bringing down in order for more balance. the RR should have its original spool up time given back though and the kick while scoped needs reducing. the hip fire kick now is fine but when scoped its a little excessive for a rifle thats supposed to be long range. a weapon that needs some serious looking at is the LR. before it used ot be pretty useless under 30m but now i'm being killed rather quickly at ranges between 5-15m since the last changes. in its original form it had a unique role of mid-long range suppression weapon whereas now ther eisn't much of a downside to it as if someone sneaks up on you (as with sniping) its pretty effective closer range instea dof having to keep a sidearm handy for CQC. also its damage vs armour is still pretty stupid. with the damage buildup bonus it just negates the penalty to armour and cuts through even armour tanked heavies pretty easily
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.07 06:09:00 -
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Step 1: Equip Breach AR
Step 2: Use superior gun game to win all encounters
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.07 06:10:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Atiim wrote:LUGMOS wrote:40-45 meter optimal? CQC?
Tell me, what is the range of the CR, a medium range rifle? 67m. Gun really shines at that range. You trash every AR suit in that range, and most scramblers as well (Since most ScR users don't know how to space and place shots. They just spam it like crazy.) Its best at around 30 meters, cause then you can place all shots while hip firing, and can strafe too.
AR works everywhere under 70 meters cause i has 0 kick.
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