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Dauth Jenkins
Titans of Phoenix
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Posted - 2014.12.04 05:47:00 -
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ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Maybe we'll see the rise of more thoughtful equipment usage... Maybe we'll see the rise of mCRUs... Maybe we'll see the rise of dedicated logis...
Also, who said you can't do AV in a logi suit that has the same bandwidth? In a perfect world plcs would be used just as much as are. I'm a maxed out ads pilot no one will want to use a mcru until there's an option to kick blues out of the passenger seats.
actually, im seeing more and more MCRUs every day, and I've personally been running since 1.7. ADS arent really meant to use MCRUs, anyways.
-Sincerely
--The Dual Swarm Commando
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boba's fetta
Dead Man's Game RUST415
857
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Posted - 2014.12.04 05:56:00 -
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ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Here's an idea how about add an extra bonus to all logis. Amaar get infinite uplink bw, cal get infinite hive bw, minmatar get re bw, and gal?? Or make it so they don't lose their racial equipment no matter the suit you're in. I have both amarr and cal logi. So nothing would change for me.
As for the new meta, adapt or die I don't care which.
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brett morris518
is well hung
12
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Posted - 2014.12.04 05:59:00 -
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Dauth Jenkins wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Maybe we'll see the rise of more thoughtful equipment usage... Maybe we'll see the rise of mCRUs... Maybe we'll see the rise of dedicated logis...
Also, who said you can't do AV in a logi suit that has the same bandwidth? In a perfect world plcs would be used just as much as are. I'm a maxed out ads pilot no one will want to use a mcru until there's an option to kick blues out of the passenger seats. actually, im seeing more and more MCRUs every day, and I've personally been running since 1.7. ADS arent really meant to use MCRUs, anyways.
Yes you can still switch suits as often as you like.. The damage doesn't get transferred when u switch, the % shield and % armor does.. Otherwise, that almost dead scout that just switched into a heavy would not even be through his shields most of the time..
And thank god for the mcru... I don't care what anyone says.. I'll spawn in on them, drop a little ways away from a lightly guarded objective, and hit the ground running at over 10 m/sec in my assault suit..
And none of this answered my question about BW cost of the drop links :/ |
Vyuru
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
65
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Posted - 2014.12.04 06:37:00 -
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I don't know.
On the one hand, I agree that I have some concerns about BW and switching suits due to changing situations, AV and the like.
On the other hand, and granted, using an extreme case, I won't have to deal with 40+ uplinks spammed all around an objective by a squad of 4 (and yes I counted those blasted uplinks)
Equipment spam IS starting to become more common in pubs, I just don't know if this is the right way to go about it.
Having an AV tank fitting ready to go, and turret installations just become more important though, as that's the easiest way to get some AV out without switching suits that I can see.
I've only messed around with MCRUs until now, I might have to look into making a tough to kill LAV with a MCRU in it.
I have to double check, let's say I have one uplink out, and I switch to another suit that can still support the UL BW. The uplink is destroyed regardless isn't it? Or does it stay? |
jane stalin
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
28
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Posted - 2014.12.04 07:49:00 -
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The game will be less fun for me but more fun for others,
Currently I use a logi to spam hives and uplinks then when I die I spam my APEX sentinels So if there is droplink on the roof near the object you will get heavy spam the whole game. |
brett morris518
is well hung
12
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Posted - 2014.12.04 08:01:00 -
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Vyuru wrote:I don't know.
On the one hand, I agree that I have some concerns about BW and switching suits due to changing situations, AV and the like.
On the other hand, and granted, using an extreme case, I won't have to deal with 40+ uplinks spammed all around an objective by a squad of 4 (and yes I counted those blasted uplinks)
Equipment spam IS starting to become more common in pubs, I just don't know if this is the right way to go about it.
Having an AV tank fitting ready to go, and turret installations just become more important though, as that's the easiest way to get some AV out without switching suits that I can see.
I've only messed around with MCRUs until now, I might have to look into making a tough to kill LAV with a MCRU in it.
I have to double check, let's say I have one uplink out, and I switch to another suit that can still support the UL BW. The uplink is destroyed regardless isn't it? Or does it stay?
It will stay.. Any equipment you deploy will stay as long as your currently deployed suit can support it. If the equipment exceeds the suit's BW, equipment will be destroyed (first to last) in the order you dropped it.. Like changing suits into smaller BW OR DROPPING MORE EQUIPMENT |
brett morris518
is well hung
12
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Posted - 2014.12.04 08:07:00 -
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jane stalin wrote:The game will be less fun for me but more fun for others,
Currently I use a logi to spam hives and uplinks then when I die I spam my APEX sentinels So if there is droplink on the roof near the object you will get heavy spam the whole game.
This is exactly why BW was introduced.. We aren't supposed to be one man armies.. Heavies don't have equipment for a reason.. This does make me wonder though... If you do drop an uplink, can u still spawn on it as a heavy, then it is destroyed? Or do u get trapped in the wormhole half way in and commit suicide? Haha!! |
jane stalin
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
28
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Posted - 2014.12.04 09:18:00 -
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I assume that as soon as you change to a fitting with a lower band width , then your equipment pops so this would happen before you deploy,
In the short term equipment spam needs to go
In the long term I want a dynamic game with giant opening doors and areas with a countdown to an orbital strike If you are a heavy that outsmarts the assaults then you engage them at close range and murder them and if the assaults outsmart you then they murder you at long range. |
brett morris518
is well hung
12
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Posted - 2014.12.04 09:30:00 -
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jane stalin wrote:I assume that as soon as you change to a fitting with a lower band width , then your equipment pops so this would happen before you deploy,
In the short term equipment spam needs to go
In the long term I want a dynamic game with giant opening doors and areas with a countdown to an orbital strike If you are a heavy that outsmarts the assaults then you engage them at close range and murder them and if the assaults outsmart you then they murder you at long range. That doesn't make sense that choosing/looking at a fitting would destroy your equipment... But, you're right, neither does being able to spawn in on a link you dropped if u can't support the BW... Guess we will find out next week :/ |
Mister Goo
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
83
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Posted - 2014.12.04 16:05:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:The rise of the Slayer Logis! Join me!
Yeah right, use the squishiest Medium suits with no useful bonus to play assault. The slayer logi died along time ago for a reason and this is not going to create a resurgence of the slayer logi.
Closed Beta Vet
Minmatar Logistics I Repair, Revive, and Replenish. Leave the slaying for Assaults and Heavies.
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Mister Goo
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
83
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Posted - 2014.12.04 16:22:00 -
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brett morris518 wrote:Here's s bigger question.... Who knows wtf BW for uplinks even is?! It's not even listed on the patch note page with the rest of the equipment!!! (Or I'm just blind)
Drop Link BW cost is 4
Link to final spreadsheet. BW cost
Closed Beta Vet
Minmatar Logistics I Repair, Revive, and Replenish. Leave the slaying for Assaults and Heavies.
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Mejt0
Fat'Kids are Hard to Kidnap
556
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Posted - 2014.12.04 16:54:00 -
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You guys just need to adapt.
I'm sure that 90% of us are starting the game with spaming Uplinks and then we slay reds in Assault/Scout suit. I'm doing it. And for good reason, i won't be able to do this after 1.10.
I'll focus on killing reds/thier links. Especially with new orbital.
Games with squad will be for sure more dynamic. Running solo now will be pain in the a$$ if your team won't put effort. That's good.
Caldari Loyalist
Markiplier fan.
Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
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ACT1ON BASTARD
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
249
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Posted - 2014.12.05 01:17:00 -
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Well damn I guess well just see how it goes. I think a better idea would have been to restrict the amount of equipment say per 10-20 meters or something like that. |
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