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ACT1ON BASTARD Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 248	Posted - 2014.12.03 23:09:00 - [1] - Quote Anyone else worried about uplinks in 1.10? I'm usually the only uplinker on the team and I tend to switch to commando or heavy after my uplinks are secure. And no I'm not gonna sit in a yellow suit the whole match, its boring, so no uplinks for you.I suggest you guys at ccp lay off uplinks for a while, I think it could wreck your games spawn system . It looks like the only uplinkers now will be logis that rep( never seen a repper logi carry more than 1 set of links), assault logis if there are any left,Av logi which I'm already doing but no more switching out, and some scouts if they give up their precious res. It can work but itll be tedious, I play this game because its a game, if this uplink/bw idea fails and makes matches harder then they need to be( not in a challenging way, I mean in the sense why am I doing this, this is a game supposed to be fun), then ill move to destiny or battlefield. Also that new star wars battlefronts coming out soon.
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2264	Posted - 2014.12.03 23:11:00 - [2] - Quote ACT1ON BASTARD wrote: Anyone else worried about uplinks in 1.10? I'm usually the only uplinker on the team and I tend to switch to commando or heavy after my uplinks are secure. And no I'm not gonna sit in a yellow suit the whole match, its boring, so no uplinks for you.I suggest you guys at ccp lay off uplinks for a while, I think it could wreck your games spawn system . It looks like the only uplinkers now will be logis that rep( never seen a repper logi carry more than 1 set of links), assault logis if there are any left,Av logi which I'm already doing but no more switching out, and some scouts if they give up their precious res. It can work but itll be tedious, I play this game because its a game, if this uplink/bw idea fails and makes matches harder then they need to be( not in a challenging way, I mean in the sense why am I doing this, this is a game supposed to be fun), then ill move to destiny or battlefield. Also that new star wars battlefronts coming out soon. i usually flip to an AV role when needed.. ill be pissed when my uplinks pop #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Clone D Grundstein Automation 919	Posted - 2014.12.03 23:12:00 - [3] - Quote 1.10 Recommended Changes, Check Play Tested, No Deploying on the 9th, Check ISK Trader channel: blitz
DDx77 The Exemplars RISE of LEGION 48	Posted - 2014.12.03 23:31:00 - [4] - Quote Very worried When you change suits it would be better if you lose the items that don't fall within the current selected suits BW, not lose everything you deployed. Fixing this should make this idea tolerable As it stands losing your deployed equipment when you switch suits presents a lot of problems and frustration.
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 2185	Posted - 2014.12.03 23:33:00 - [5] - Quote Well, you won't be able to do that. Obviously. Since we haven't heard about that enough. Because doing that is a bit broken. Imagine, if you shall, that Your Sentinel just dropped all that equip. The Links, the Hives, the Triage Reps. Your 1000+ HP suit, w/ the HMG just did that. Because that's effectively what it did. It removes the sentinel's main weakness in utility, the lack of a equip, and then lets you romp around with all the equip of a logi, and the sheer strength of a Sent. If you play as a Sentinel usually, then play the sentinel w/ its weaknesses. People who play Logi have to deal w/ the lack of combat ability if they want to be a real help to their team. People who play Assaults have to stick to their strengths, and deal with their weaknesses. By allowing this gap to continue, it is offfering a route to avoid all the choice in being logi or scout or heavy, and then just throwing your hands up and saying that everybody's a logi, devalueing Legit Logis. I Live for Tears
ACT1ON BASTARD Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 248	Posted - 2014.12.03 23:35:00 - [6] - Quote Here's an idea how about add an extra bonus to all logis. Amaar get infinite uplink bw, cal get infinite hive bw, minmatar get re bw, and gal??
Clone D Grundstein Automation 919	Posted - 2014.12.03 23:36:00 - [7] - Quote DDx77 wrote: Very worried When you change suits it would be better if you lose the items that don't fall within the current selected suits BW, not lose everything you deployed. Fixing this should make this idea tolerable As it stands losing your deployed equipment when you switch suits presents a lot of problems and frustration. You will only loose the items that are outside of the bandwidth threshold of the newly selected dropsuit in the order that they were dropped, FIFO. ISK Trader channel: blitz
ACT1ON BASTARD Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 248	Posted - 2014.12.03 23:38:00 - [8] - Quote ACT1ON BASTARD wrote: Here's an idea how about add an extra bonus to all logis. Amaar get infinite uplink bw, cal get infinite hive bw, minmatar get re bw, and gal?? Or make it so they don't lose their racial equipment no matter the suit you're in.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 5309	Posted - 2014.12.03 23:39:00 - [9] - Quote You should only worry about bandwidth if you are a logi tourist who swaps fittings so you can farm WP's in a sentinel or SG scout fitting My advice to you, playa...
ACT1ON BASTARD Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 248	Posted - 2014.12.03 23:42:00 - [10] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: You should only worry about bandwidth if you are a logi tourist who swaps fittings so you can farm WP's in a sentinel or SG scout fitting How about keeping a match alive, so matches I've gone into w 0 uplinks on the map.

Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 2186	Posted - 2014.12.04 00:00:00 - [11] - Quote ACT1ON BASTARD wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: You should only worry about bandwidth if you are a logi tourist who swaps fittings so you can farm WP's in a sentinel or SG scout fitting How about keeping a match alive, so matches I've gone into w 0 uplinks on the map. Then run anything other then a sentinel. They have equipment slots as well. Use them. I Live for Tears
Mejt0 Fat'Kids are Hard to Kidnap 553	Posted - 2014.12.04 00:01:00 - [12] - Quote The answer is simple. No more muli roles at the same time after 1.10 [at the same time.] Right now, people spam [everywhere they only can] EQ and then switch suits to Assault/Heavy/Scout. It's a game based on teamplay. You should not provide logistical support at the same time of wrecking enemies with HMG/SG etc. You need to choose what role u want to fulfill. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 372	Posted - 2014.12.04 00:12:00 - [13] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: You should only worry about bandwidth if you are a logi tourist who swaps fittings so you can farm WP's in a sentinel or SG scout fitting You are stupid to think so. And I'm sure you never played as a usefull logi in Dust. If I put uplinks with my AmLogi, and then there's a tank approaching, I'm switching to my AV scout in order to destroy it. And many people switches to AV this way as it's not a viable full match tactic. Now with the BW system who will want to pop that tank? Knowing that you'll lose the precious uplinks everyone needs? Another exemple: If you want to put proxies on the road and then switch to uplinks, how do you? You'll make these proxies disapear if you plant the uplinks! Who will destroy this tank that you never had to care about before? Again: When I put uplinks, my suit isn't made for battle. So I have to switch to my assault suits if I want to survive and keep beeing usefull for my teammates. But now if I do so, the uplinks will disappear! So what's the solution? SlayerLogi? I didn't skill into 2 different proto assault suits to keep playing the assault role with a logi because the new mechanic of the BW is broken! Moreover, Logis are not made for assaulting anymore, so forcing me to use them as assault suit is absolutely wrong. You guys should think before talking trash about things you obviously don't know and say "olol you tourist". As el Operator said "A solution that creates more problems than it solves isn't a solution." Take out all forms of scans and you'll see how great Dust can be. Scrubs will cry, good players will love it.
Atiim Titans of Phoenix 14104	Posted - 2014.12.04 00:33:00 - [14] - Quote Clone D wrote: 1.10 Recommended Changes, Check Play Tested, No Deploying on the 9th, Check Who told you that 1.10 wasn't play tested? The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 1015	Posted - 2014.12.04 00:44:00 - [15] - Quote Maybe we'll see the rise of more thoughtful equipment usage... Maybe we'll see the rise of mCRUs... Maybe we'll see the rise of dedicated logis... Also, who said you can't do AV in a logi suit that has the same bandwidth? Quafe Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
ACT1ON BASTARD Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 248	Posted - 2014.12.04 00:55:00 - [16] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: Maybe we'll see the rise of more thoughtful equipment usage... Maybe we'll see the rise of mCRUs... Maybe we'll see the rise of dedicated logis... Also, who said you can't do AV in a logi suit that has the same bandwidth? In a perfect world plcs would be used just as much as are. I'm a maxed out ads pilot no one will want to use a mcru until there's an option to kick blues out of the passenger seats.
Thokk Nightshade Montana Militia 713	Posted - 2014.12.04 03:35:00 - [17] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: Maybe we'll see the rise of more thoughtful equipment usage... Maybe we'll see the rise of mCRUs... Maybe we'll see the rise of dedicated logis... Also, who said you can't do AV in a logi suit that has the same bandwidth? With no sidearm you are asking to be killed. Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1554	Posted - 2014.12.04 03:48:00 - [18] - Quote The rise of the Slayer Logis! Join me! People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
Booby Tuesdays Tuesdays With Boobies 1037	Posted - 2014.12.04 04:10:00 - [19] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: The rise of the Slayer Logis! Join me! LOL, good luck with that. Half-Assed Forum Warrior / Half-Decent Commando / Damn Good Logi
Booby Tuesdays Tuesdays With Boobies 1037	Posted - 2014.12.04 04:12:00 - [20] - Quote ACT1ON BASTARD wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: You should only worry about bandwidth if you are a logi tourist who swaps fittings so you can farm WP's in a sentinel or SG scout fitting How about keeping a match alive, so matches I've gone into w 0 uplinks on the map. You can still drop 8 uplinks as a Logi. If you can't keep a match alive with 8 well placed uplinks, I don't know what to tell ya... Half-Assed Forum Warrior / Half-Decent Commando / Damn Good Logi

Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 4872	Posted - 2014.12.04 04:22:00 - [21] - Quote I think it's a positive thing, since I only use the Amarr Logistics for ULs, it'll force me to stick with it and keep the bonus since I wouldn't switch out. All of the changes coming 1.10 seem positive on paper to me.
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 457	Posted - 2014.12.04 04:22:00 - [22] - Quote I remember a time. It was long ago, during closed and open beta and the first stages of Uprising. Back then, the SP you had wasn't that big so when you choose a role, you choose that role and you had to stick with it. Back then Logi's didn't complained about not being able to be combat effective because they knew the weaknesses that came with that role. Scouts didn't complained about getting killed fast because (well yeah some did but the QQs were not that abundant) because the knew their suits were not meant for the frontlines and had to rely on infiltration and stealth tactics. Heavies, well much haven't changed. They are still slow and can take a wallop before going down. And Assaults? Well they endured. They knew they weren't the best for equipment magament, not the best to tank hits like a heavy and not fast or small enough to be sneaky and infiltrate like the scout. Back then people played the roles they choose and not complained. Now? The Dust of today has created a bunch of milk drinkers. (All of us are included) And I blame CCP too. Instead of them adding some more SP sinks for the players with a lot of life time SP. All they did was increase a few multipliers and add the atrocious and useless basic frames. Which hinder the new players more than they vets. Now we got long time running vets specced into every suit and role. Them being able to switch on to different roles on the fly by a supply depot whenever they felt like it. I am pretty sure that wasn't CCP's intent. Now almost all vets are stuck with this "I am supposed to do everything because I can" mentality and that is not healthy for the game itself. All that Bandwith does is give logi's a better role on the battlefield. Now that no suit will be able to spam equipment as freely as they are doing now, this will make logi's much more needed in the battle. And when I say Logi, I mean real tru Logi's. They guys that actually specced into the role of Logi because they like providing support for their team Not the logi's that specced into the suit because they needed it for PC or because they had more than enough SP to spare so they dumped it into a logi suit because why not? PS: Excuse my grammar and my english. Side effects of playing Dust: Emotional trauma, Anger Management issues, Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, and Depression
Jade Dragonis GRIM MARCH Grim Enterprises 394	Posted - 2014.12.04 04:24:00 - [23] - Quote My Scout has an uplink on it. My Mass Driver has Nanohives on it. My Heavy has a logi that provides ammo and links if needed. My Logi doesnt need a sidearm since he hides behind my heavy suit when fire comes in. Repping me as is his role. Me taking bullets as is my role. What this helps is EQ spammers. So If I throw a Flux into a room I dont get 100WP killing EQ. Some people will just have to work for thier WP's now. Follow me on Youtube
brett morris518 is well hung 12	Posted - 2014.12.04 04:38:00 - [24] - Quote Here's s bigger question.... Who knows wtf BW for uplinks even is?! It's not even listed on the patch note page with the rest of the equipment!!! (Or I'm just blind)
brett morris518 is well hung 12	Posted - 2014.12.04 04:45:00 - [25] - Quote http://dust514.com/news/2014/12/uprising-1.10-overview-patch-notes?_ga=1.180705188.227692603.1416890619
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1339	Posted - 2014.12.04 04:47:00 - [26] - Quote I don't like this solution, I think they should have just removed the ability to switch suits, but the WP ***** side of me is going to be delighted. If I dropped links I used to still worry about things like running AV, hacking stuff and killing reds but no more. I'll be in a logi suit so I'll just find the nearest heavy, of which there will be plenty, and make him near invincible. Honestly I am curious how it is going to play out. I've been wrong before. Once. Because, that's why.
brett morris518 is well hung 12	Posted - 2014.12.04 04:48:00 - [27] - Quote Really?! I find it funny that people are sitting around boo hooing about something and don't even have all the details
brett morris518 is well hung 12	Posted - 2014.12.04 04:54:00 - [28] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: I don't like this solution, I think they should have just removed the ability to switch suits, but the WP ***** side of me is going to be delighted. If I dropped links I used to still worry about things like running AV, hacking stuff and killing reds but no more. I'll be in a logi suit so I'll just find the nearest heavy, of which there will be plenty, and make him near invincible. Honestly I am curious how it is going to play out. I've been wrong before. Once. I thought about them just making it to where you can't switch suits too.. But honestly, that would be worse IMO.. At least this way, if you NEED to switch, the option is there.. Even if u have to lose deployed equipment. I hope this change will bring about better squad/team based game (like it was meant to be) people that wanna solo stomp? Find a different game or cry me a river
Thokk Nightshade Montana Militia 713	Posted - 2014.12.04 04:57:00 - [29] - Quote Do we know what the bandwidth cost for uplinks will be? I saw nanohives/re's and everything else on the overview but not the Uplink cost. Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
Jade Dragonis GRIM MARCH Grim Enterprises 394	Posted - 2014.12.04 05:42:00 - [30] - Quote brett morris518 wrote: Nothing Certain wrote: I don't like this solution, I think they should have just removed the ability to switch suits, but the WP ***** side of me is going to be delighted. If I dropped links I used to still worry about things like running AV, hacking stuff and killing reds but no more. I'll be in a logi suit so I'll just find the nearest heavy, of which there will be plenty, and make him near invincible. Honestly I am curious how it is going to play out. I've been wrong before. Once. I thought about them just making it to where you can't switch suits too.. But honestly, that would be worse IMO.. At least this way, if you NEED to switch, the option is there.. Even if u have to lose deployed equipment. I hope this change will bring about better squad/team based game (like it was meant to be) people that wanna solo stomp? Find a different game or cry me a river You can still switch suits as often as you like. BW comes into play for equipment though. Also suit switching to regain health goes away. Damage in one suit transfers to the next. Follow me on Youtube



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