Boo- Hoo CCP bokeded mah WP farm .

People may finally spawn in my dropship

:3

People may finally spawn in my dropship

:3

ain't it strange too, how the two logis (cal and amarr) who's bonus is equipment based have the lowest bandwidth? that's mind boggling. i see your point too about wep switching, but ccp also did this because equipment spam caused lag.

People may finally spawn in my dropship

:3

It seems kind of ridiculous that have tons of SP invested just to have a role you can only play for 5 minutes and then you either have to switch to repairs or stand around and do nothing. If its going to be this way mise as well just reinvest all my role dedicated SP and then get a few Faction Apex logis that take no skill and ill have them if I need them.

Why dont you keep uplinks in the third slot when you go off the rep and revive?

With a proto amarr logi you can still drop 8 live proto uplinks at once.

Advanced can drop 6 proto links

If you change out to an assault you still keep 4 proto links on the field.

I was against BW limits as welll, but seeing as i still get enough BW for my suits to keep my best links up then i'm not worried.

And if you had no interest in repping, reviving and resuuplying then, yeah, you shouldn't have become a logi. Not thats not stopping you from removing all of your equipment form a fit and using the amarr suit as a slayer. Just saying.

Imma go ahead and guess that Am and Cal logis are gonna get a bandwidth bonus for their racial equipment. Just guessing though.

Why dont you keep uplinks in the third slot when you go off the rep and revive?

With a proto amarr logi you can still drop 8 live proto uplinks at once.

Advanced can drop 6 proto links

If you change out to an assault you still keep 4 proto links on the field.

I was against BW limits as welll, but seeing as i still get enough BW for my suits to keep my best links up then i'm not worried.

And if you had no interest in repping, reviving and resuuplying then, yeah, you shouldn't have become a logi. Not thats not stopping you from removing all of your equipment form a fit and using the amarr suit as a slayer. Just saying.

You are a logi, you aren't meant to "slay". You support your team with more efficient equipment and the occasional kill assist. That's your job. If you became a logi for the K/D you are doing it incorrectly.

OP SP investments:
Caldari/Amarr logi V
Equipment of choice III - V

Sentinel V
Every HMG skill V
Scout V
SG V
Cloaks V

No way I do it for the K/D.

ain't it strange too, how the two logis (cal and amarr) who's bonus is equipment based have the lowest bandwidth? that's mind boggling. i see your point too about wep switching, but ccp also did this because equipment spam caused lag.

People may finally spawn in my dropship

:3

NO! I'm tired of spawning in only to be met with a fiery death. I rather spawn in front of a group of reds. At least I'd have the chance to fight back a little.

People may finally spawn in my dropship

:3

@OP: I'm a little confused about something. Are you suggesting you switch out of an Amarr logi suit completely after dropping the uplinks?

Because:

- if you don't, then you can put out, what, 8 uplinks at PRO? How many do you need?

- If you do, one, you're doing it wrong. That's not how the bonus works. Two, what suit are you switching to? Apparently not a logi suit, in which case I don't feel too sorry for you.

The last time a free respec was given out was when equipment was changed. it was changed so that the skill level of your racial logi suit affected the equipment stats. I got Amarr logi Lv5 and uplinks Lv5 because i wanted to be able to deliver soldiers into battle in as many numbers in as little time as I could.

As the changes stand now, Im not even allowed to put out enough uplinks to cover all the objectives on a 5 point skirm. Nevermind things like anti vehicle traps or triage nanohives. Its ridiculous that a GK.0 scout can switch to a double swarm launcher, destroy a expensive vehicle effortlessly, and then switch back to their Scout fit. Why doesn't a scout cloak have a finite amount of uses on it? How come an HMG doesnt destory itself after too many seizes? Why dont batteries/nanites run out in the scanner/repair tool?


So let us start over. Following people around and repairing them/reviving them is not what I signed up for. Infact, its a Minmatar role and all my SP would have to be reinvested just so I can have the privilege of continuing the play the game. Since people can still deploy uplinks in the GK.0 scouts and then go on cloaking and slaying, give people the chance to unsubscribe from logi.

It seems kind of ridiculous that have tons of SP invested just to have a role you can only play for 5 minutes and then you either have to switch to repairs or stand around and do nothing. If its going to be this way mise as well just reinvest all my role dedicated SP and then get a few Faction Apex logis that take no skill and ill have them if I need them.

Also, I always put an RE on my uplinks. Now the BW cost is prohibitive which leaves my uplinks less protected.

Bullshite, you do it so that when a red shoots your link he blows up. It has nothing to do with protecting your uplinks

The last time a free respec was given out was when equipment was changed. it was changed so that the skill level of your racial logi suit affected the equipment stats. I got Amarr logi Lv5 and uplinks Lv5 because i wanted to be able to deliver soldiers into battle in as many numbers in as little time as I could.

As the changes stand now, Im not even allowed to put out enough uplinks to cover all the objectives on a 5 point skirm. Nevermind things like anti vehicle traps or triage nanohives. Its ridiculous that a GK.0 scout can switch to a double swarm launcher, destroy a expensive vehicle effortlessly, and then switch back to their Scout fit. Why doesn't a scout cloak have a finite amount of uses on it? How come an HMG doesnt destory itself after too many seizes? Why dont batteries/nanites run out in the scanner/repair tool?


So let us start over. Following people around and repairing them/reviving them is not what I signed up for. Infact, its a Minmatar role and all my SP would have to be reinvested just so I can have the privilege of continuing the play the game. Since people can still deploy uplinks in the GK.0 scouts and then go on cloaking and slaying, give people the chance to unsubscribe from logi.

It seems kind of ridiculous that have tons of SP invested just to have a role you can only play for 5 minutes and then you either have to switch to repairs or stand around and do nothing. If its going to be this way mise as well just reinvest all my role dedicated SP and then get a few Faction Apex logis that take no skill and ill have them if I need them.

People may finally spawn in my dropship

:3

This virtually kills the playstyle where dudes come in and drop uplinks all over the place in elevated areas to farm WP.

I love it. I logi on the front lines. I drop my equipment where it's needed at the point of conflict. This will not effect me at all, whatsoever.

The last time a free respec was given out was when equipment was changed. it was changed so that the skill level of your racial logi suit affected the equipment stats. I got Amarr logi Lv5 and uplinks Lv5 because i wanted to be able to deliver soldiers into battle in as many numbers in as little time as I could.

As the changes stand now, Im not even allowed to put out enough uplinks to cover all the objectives on a 5 point skirm. Nevermind things like anti vehicle traps or triage nanohives. Its ridiculous that a GK.0 scout can switch to a double swarm launcher, destroy a expensive vehicle effortlessly, and then switch back to their Scout fit. Why doesn't a scout cloak have a finite amount of uses on it? How come an HMG doesnt destory itself after too many seizes? Why dont batteries/nanites run out in the scanner/repair tool?


So let us start over. Following people around and repairing them/reviving them is not what I signed up for. Infact, its a Minmatar role and all my SP would have to be reinvested just so I can have the privilege of continuing the play the game. Since people can still deploy uplinks in the GK.0 scouts and then go on cloaking and slaying, give people the chance to unsubscribe from logi.

It seems kind of ridiculous that have tons of SP invested just to have a role you can only play for 5 minutes and then you either have to switch to repairs or stand around and do nothing. If its going to be this way mise as well just reinvest all my role dedicated SP and then get a few Faction Apex logis that take no skill and ill have them if I need them.

You play exclusively in squads and I play exclusively solo. There is a big difference there. You are close supporting 5 people you hang out with all day, im protecting the flanks of a largely uncoordinated team. There is no comparison. im setting up supply lines so that once all the uplinks within 50m of an objective are gone, my team can regroup. What you do is just play follow the leader and walk around with a squad.

The last time a free respec was given out was when equipment was changed. it was changed so that the skill level of your racial logi suit affected the equipment stats. I got Amarr logi Lv5 and uplinks Lv5 because i wanted to be able to deliver soldiers into battle in as many numbers in as little time as I could.

As the changes stand now, Im not even allowed to put out enough uplinks to cover all the objectives on a 5 point skirm. Nevermind things like anti vehicle traps or triage nanohives. Its ridiculous that a GK.0 scout can switch to a double swarm launcher, destroy a expensive vehicle effortlessly, and then switch back to their Scout fit. Why doesn't a scout cloak have a finite amount of uses on it? How come an HMG doesnt destory itself after too many seizes? Why dont batteries/nanites run out in the scanner/repair tool?


So let us start over. Following people around and repairing them/reviving them is not what I signed up for. Infact, its a Minmatar role and all my SP would have to be reinvested just so I can have the privilege of continuing the play the game. Since people can still deploy uplinks in the GK.0 scouts and then go on cloaking and slaying, give people the chance to unsubscribe from logi.

It seems kind of ridiculous that have tons of SP invested just to have a role you can only play for 5 minutes and then you either have to switch to repairs or stand around and do nothing. If its going to be this way mise as well just reinvest all my role dedicated SP and then get a few Faction Apex logis that take no skill and ill have them if I need them.

Since you asked:

Amarr Logi Lv 5
Gallente Logi Lv1
Gallente Assault Lv1 (Only for my Quafe BPO)
Caldari Commando Lv3
Gallente Commando Lv3
(No light suits, scouts, or sentinel unlocked)

HMG Lv1
SG Lv1
Uplinks Lv5
Remotes Lv5
Hives Lv4
Scanners Lv2
Rep tool Lv1

Its happened often enough that the assailant dies but the uplink remains intact. Sometimes if its on the roof, especially in Line Harvest, it will also damage/destroy the landed dropship of the dead link hunter if he parked too close. Nothing is a bigger deterrent to hunting down the other links like losing good equipment taking out the first.

It also becomes influential. After the first few enemies have lost expensive fits breaking trapped equipment with melee hits, people get alot more cautions around equipment, backing up from it and fluxing it instead of rushing in. These small hesitations can make enough of a difference in CQB to shift the fight. A deterrent can be a defense if it discourages people from going after it.

The last time a free respec was given out was when equipment was changed. it was changed so that the skill level of your racial logi suit affected the equipment stats. I got Amarr logi Lv5 and uplinks Lv5 because i wanted to be able to deliver soldiers into battle in as many numbers in as little time as I could.

As the changes stand now, Im not even allowed to put out enough uplinks to cover all the objectives on a 5 point skirm. Nevermind things like anti vehicle traps or triage nanohives. Its ridiculous that a GK.0 scout can switch to a double swarm launcher, destroy a expensive vehicle effortlessly, and then switch back to their Scout fit. Why doesn't a scout cloak have a finite amount of uses on it? How come an HMG doesnt destory itself after too many seizes? Why dont batteries/nanites run out in the scanner/repair tool?


So let us start over. Following people around and repairing them/reviving them is not what I signed up for. Infact, its a Minmatar role and all my SP would have to be reinvested just so I can have the privilege of continuing the play the game. Since people can still deploy uplinks in the GK.0 scouts and then go on cloaking and slaying, give people the chance to unsubscribe from logi.

It seems kind of ridiculous that have tons of SP invested just to have a role you can only play for 5 minutes and then you either have to switch to repairs or stand around and do nothing. If its going to be this way mise as well just reinvest all my role dedicated SP and then get a few Faction Apex logis that take no skill and ill have them if I need them.

You play exclusively in squads and I play exclusively solo. There is a big difference there. You are close supporting 5 people you hang out with all day, im protecting the flanks of a largely uncoordinated team. There is no comparison. im setting up supply lines so that once all the uplinks within 50m of an objective are gone, my team can regroup. What you do is just play follow the leader and walk around with a squad.

they still wont spawn on a **** pilot ;p

The last time a free respec was given out was when equipment was changed. it was changed so that the skill level of your racial logi suit affected the equipment stats. I got Amarr logi Lv5 and uplinks Lv5 because i wanted to be able to deliver soldiers into battle in as many numbers in as little time as I could.

As the changes stand now, Im not even allowed to put out enough uplinks to cover all the objectives on a 5 point skirm. Nevermind things like anti vehicle traps or triage nanohives. Its ridiculous that a GK.0 scout can switch to a double swarm launcher, destroy a expensive vehicle effortlessly, and then switch back to their Scout fit. Why doesn't a scout cloak have a finite amount of uses on it? How come an HMG doesnt destory itself after too many seizes? Why dont batteries/nanites run out in the scanner/repair tool?


So let us start over. Following people around and repairing them/reviving them is not what I signed up for. Infact, its a Minmatar role and all my SP would have to be reinvested just so I can have the privilege of continuing the play the game. Since people can still deploy uplinks in the GK.0 scouts and then go on cloaking and slaying, give people the chance to unsubscribe from logi.

It seems kind of ridiculous that have tons of SP invested just to have a role you can only play for 5 minutes and then you either have to switch to repairs or stand around and do nothing. If its going to be this way mise as well just reinvest all my role dedicated SP and then get a few Faction Apex logis that take no skill and ill have them if I need them.

youve never spawned in my myron then. the only people that die are the idiots AFKing in the passenger seats. Any pilot running a MCRU should focus on transporting troops to lightly guarded objectives, and providing limited support. if i land outside the objective building and you dont get out, then im going to assume you dont mind dying a fiery death. People should know to jump out as soon as i land on the ground.

.... but yea, after saying all this, there are people out there who just stick a mcru on a viper and try to farm WPs.

Its pretty great when random Blueberries start to trust your dropship and decide to spawn in it over and over. ive even had people jump out, secure the objective, and then jump back in, all without any voice coms. Its quickly becoming my favorite way to play the game.

You play exclusively in squads and I play exclusively solo. There is a big difference there. You are close supporting 5 people you hang out with all day, im protecting the flanks of a largely uncoordinated team. There is no comparison. im setting up supply lines so that once all the uplinks within 50m of an objective are gone, my team can regroup. What you do is just play follow the leader and walk around with a squad.

ain't it strange too, how the two logis (cal and amarr) who's bonus is equipment based have the lowest bandwidth? that's mind boggling. i see your point too about wep switching, but ccp also did this because equipment spam caused lag.

you think you deserve a respec because you, as a logi, should be able to have YOUR uplinks, across all 5 objectives??

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You both play the same game, but perhaps you should simply ignore his 2nd sentence and focus on the first.

Equipment spamming was a problem. Logis farming WP by laying out a dozen or more uplinks, often in high places effectively assuring snipers have good and useless positions to snipe from, while killing FPS, and submarining your chance for the win is what Thor was complaining about -- and rightfully so.

You will simply have to be more thoughtful in where you place your uplink/equipment.
Don't like it? QQ, adapt, or respec -- the choice is yours....Leadfoot.

p.s. "What you do is just play follow the leader and walk around with a squad. " I loled at that. You have no clue.

CCP is doing the right thing nerfing the solo play style. People are much more likely to stick around and spend money if they are involved socially.

Solo will still be viable, it just won't be as prevalent (hopefully).

I think this is going to take some major tweaking and I'm nit sure it is going to work out. Proxies will be gone if you have to choose between any other equipment and them. Forgers will be hurting as you can no longer drop a hive in one suit and then come back as a forger. Heavy/logi duos will be everywhere making the heavy HMH situation worse.

I think the better way to fix equipment spam is just remove the ability to switch suits. The only real spam problem is when guys throw out every version if links and hives because they can switch suits to do it. Just remove it, it would also stop the invincible changing suit exploit and it would help balance swarm/vehicle balance because AV would have to be dedicated AV, not switch hitters.So much good for so little a change instead of so much change to keep a little good.