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Moochie Cricket
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.01 00:52:00 -
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Is there any way we can get a transport dropship that is the exact same as an ADS except without the ability to fit any turrets and have a max capacity of 4 passengers? The added agility and speed could actually make a pure transport pilot viable. Not having to fit 2 turrets to have 4 passengers would free up a lot of pg and cpu that pilots could use for extra tank.
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Hector Carson
THE DESOLATION OF EDEN
95
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Posted - 2014.12.01 02:50:00 -
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Don't put turrets on the regular dropships and BLAMO you have your transport ship.
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Moochie Cricket
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
849
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Posted - 2014.12.01 12:26:00 -
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Hector Carson wrote:Don't put turrets on the regular dropships and BLAMO you have your transport ship.
That can only transport 2 people...
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Toobar Zoobar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
27
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Posted - 2014.12.01 12:54:00 -
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Moochie Cricket wrote:Hector Carson wrote:Don't put turrets on the regular dropships and BLAMO you have your transport ship. That can only transport 2 people...
The hell you talkin about?
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Moochie Cricket
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
850
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Posted - 2014.12.01 13:11:00 -
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Toobar Zoobar wrote:Moochie Cricket wrote:Hector Carson wrote:Don't put turrets on the regular dropships and BLAMO you have your transport ship. That can only transport 2 people... The hell you talkin about?
Assault Dropships.
I want their speed and agility to transport mercs without the need to fit side/front turrets. Both to increase potential tank (better modules can be fit because turrets would not be taking up cpu/pg) and to remove any offensive capabilities in order to balance it. However, right now you can only transport 2 people without side turrets and you are forced to fit a front turret.
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DUST Fiend
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
15326
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Posted - 2014.12.01 14:41:00 -
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All I hear are cheap effective suicide ships :/
No thanks
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Moochie Cricket
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
854
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Posted - 2014.12.01 15:50:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:All I hear are cheap effective suicide ships :/
No thanks
We already have that. Just fit an ADS with a standard turret.
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2633
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Posted - 2014.12.01 18:28:00 -
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An AB'd DS is just about a agile as an un-AB'd ADS. Without turrets a DS can hold 4 passangers. Add preferred defenses. Shake well and bake on high for 45mins-1hr.
Poof, ideal transport ship.
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Finn Colman
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
75
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Posted - 2014.12.01 18:36:00 -
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???
Um, since when could people not sit behind empty turret hardpoints?
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
5222
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Posted - 2014.12.01 18:41:00 -
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Those red dropsuis would fit the bill I think. I think they are Scout dropships or something? Name starts with a "K". They fly like an Assault Dropship, but are paper thin.
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Moochie Cricket
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
854
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Posted - 2014.12.01 18:43:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Those red dropsuis would fit the bill I think. I think they are Scout dropships or something? Name starts with a "K". They fly like an Assault Dropship, but are paper thin.
Nope. They are standard myrons, just prefitted.
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Moochie Cricket
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
854
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Posted - 2014.12.01 18:44:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:An AB'd DS is just about a agile as an un-AB'd ADS. Without turrets a DS can hold 4 passangers. Add preferred defenses. Shake well and bake on high for 45mins-1hr.
Poof, ideal transport ship.
Standard dropship with an afterburner is no where close to being as fast and agile as an ads.
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Kaeru Nayiri
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
224
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Posted - 2014.12.01 18:47:00 -
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Use an afterburner on a standard dropship. It improves agility more than anything. (Even though I personally feel it should reduce agility in favor of higher thrust, but, that's just me.) |
DUST Fiend
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
15336
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Posted - 2014.12.01 19:19:00 -
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Finn Colman wrote:???
Um, since when could people not sit behind empty turret hardpoints?
Quite a while now
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2635
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Posted - 2014.12.01 19:43:00 -
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Moochie Cricket wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:An AB'd DS is just about a agile as an un-AB'd ADS. Without turrets a DS can hold 4 passangers. Add preferred defenses. Shake well and bake on high for 45mins-1hr.
Poof, ideal transport ship. Standard dropship with an afterburner is no where close to being as fast and agile as an ads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_SjNOrHCmI&t=18s
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Moochie Cricket
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
854
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Posted - 2014.12.01 20:17:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Moochie Cricket wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:An AB'd DS is just about a agile as an un-AB'd ADS. Without turrets a DS can hold 4 passangers. Add preferred defenses. Shake well and bake on high for 45mins-1hr.
Poof, ideal transport ship. Standard dropship with an afterburner is no where close to being as fast and agile as an ads. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_SjNOrHCmI&t=18s
Coming from the pilot who doesn't use active modules because they are too much to mess with...
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Atiim
Titans of Phoenix
14068
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Posted - 2014.12.01 20:22:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Those red dropsuis would fit the bill I think. I think they are Scout dropships or something? Name starts with a "K". They fly like an Assault Dropship, but are paper thin.
The Kaalakiota Recon Dropships?
Those are simply Vipers but re-skinned and pre-fitted.
The 1st Matari Commando
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Finn Colman
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
76
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Posted - 2014.12.01 20:28:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Finn Colman wrote:???
Um, since when could people not sit behind empty turret hardpoints? Quite a while now
That is pretty ridiculous, and illogical.
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2635
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Posted - 2014.12.01 20:29:00 -
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Moochie Cricket wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Moochie Cricket wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:An AB'd DS is just about a agile as an un-AB'd ADS. Without turrets a DS can hold 4 passangers. Add preferred defenses. Shake well and bake on high for 45mins-1hr.
Poof, ideal transport ship. Standard dropship with an afterburner is no where close to being as fast and agile as an ads. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_SjNOrHCmI&t=18s Coming from the pilot who doesn't use active modules because they are too much to mess with...
Perhaps so... though I don't see how it's relevant.
Seriously though, standard DSs are agile enough and tanky enough to survive reasonable AV if fitted correctly (if you ask nicely I may share a few with you). The only real problem is the hardener animation that blocks gunner's view (making it hard to fight back against AV).
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2636
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Posted - 2014.12.01 20:32:00 -
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Finn Colman wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Finn Colman wrote:???
Um, since when could people not sit behind empty turret hardpoints? Quite a while now That is pretty ridiculous, and illogical.
I've asked for "seat" modules that take the place of the turret for an extra seat (for a small cost).
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Moochie Cricket
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
854
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Posted - 2014.12.01 20:35:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Moochie Cricket wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Moochie Cricket wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:An AB'd DS is just about a agile as an un-AB'd ADS. Without turrets a DS can hold 4 passangers. Add preferred defenses. Shake well and bake on high for 45mins-1hr.
Poof, ideal transport ship. Standard dropship with an afterburner is no where close to being as fast and agile as an ads. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_SjNOrHCmI&t=18s Coming from the pilot who doesn't use active modules because they are too much to mess with... Perhaps so... though I don't see how it's relevant. Seriously though, standard DSs are agile enough and tanky enough to survive reasonable AV if fitted correctly (if you ask nicely I may share a few with you). The only real problem is the hardener animation that blocks gunner's view (making it hard to fight back against AV).
Do you mainly fly gallente? I never do, so maybe that is why we have different opinions.
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Kaeru Nayiri
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
224
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Posted - 2014.12.01 20:44:00 -
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Currently the Myron (caldari) is indestructible. If you want to sacrifice some tank for agility, use an afterburner. It will have as much agility as a Python, or even more.
A Python is a flying coffin.
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2636
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Posted - 2014.12.01 21:06:00 -
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Moochie Cricket wrote:-Snip-
Not a big fan of the Gallente DS model. I prefer Caldari, though I have a few Incubus fits for certain situations and Grimnses fits for fun.
The Myron flies a lot better than the Grimnses, and it can field a pretty nice take on top of it. Only real draw backs are the few utility high slots (one is always used for an AB, so if you want to use a mCRU/scanner/etc. you only get 2 slots for your primary tank), and the shield hardener animation (as above, obstructs gunners vision).
Here are some fits I've tried:
Dual Booster Myron: you can mess with the meta levels of all the mods and sacrifice only a bit on performance. This fit is a psudo-active tank that relies on the boosters ability to kick-start regen. By doing it at the right times (between reloads for example), you can boost the 900 hp plus natural regen for a few seconds. Not to mention the huge buffer and lack of hardeners to help the gunner. If you want two gunners, just lower the booster to advanced, same boost amount, but slightly longer down time. Personally, I think its the best fit for Myron gunships.
mCRU Python: this is if you want to use a Python as a transport ship (also a special gift to me from Rattati, check my signature). It's not too tanky, so you need to be conservative with the situations you put it into.
Active Grimsnes: Just a theory-craft fit I came up with. I haven't tried it out personally, but it seems decent. After initial hit, rep back shields and turn on hardener. Has about 4.6k armor ehp and reps at 250ehp/s, hardened with proto turret.
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