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Pvt Numnutz Prophets of the Velocirapture 2008	Posted - 2014.11.30 17:01:00 - [1] - Quote Basic breach assault rifle: 2,460 ISK 58.1 base damage per shot 415.16 DPS 36 round mag 300 total rounds No kick No charge 74m effective range 56.78 accuracy rating Kaalakiota rail rifle: 47,220 ISK 51.7 base damage per shot 397.69 DPS 42 round mag 252 total rounds LOTS of kick 0.45s charge 100m effective range 54.47 accuracy rating Why would I use my rail rifle, or any other rifle for that matter, over the breach ar? Master Skyshark rider Kaalaka dakka tamer
Ryme Intrinseca Dead Man's Game RUST415 2126	Posted - 2014.11.30 17:04:00 - [2] - Quote Range, obviously.
nicholas73 Glitched Connection 305	Posted - 2014.11.30 17:07:00 - [3] - Quote OP weapon is OP Proud member of Glitched Connection "Only idiots start a fight they can't win" - Sora (No Game No Life)
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4217	Posted - 2014.11.30 17:07:00 - [4] - Quote More damage to armor. Has a scope.
Echo 1991 Titans of Phoenix 599	Posted - 2014.11.30 17:09:00 - [5] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Basic breach assault rifle: 2,460 ISK 58.1 base damage per shot 415.16 DPS 36 round mag 300 total rounds No kick No charge 74m effective range 56.78 accuracy rating Kaalakiota rail rifle: 47,220 ISK 51.7 base damage per shot 397.69 DPS 42 round mag 252 total rounds LOTS of kick 0.45s charge 100m effective range 54.47 accuracy rating Why would I use my rail rifle, or any other rifle for that matter, over the breach ar? After 55 meters or so you lose damage rather fast. RR will still smack you at a greater range.
Henrietta Unknown Kirjuun Heiian 570	Posted - 2014.11.30 17:12:00 - [6] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: More damage to armor. Has a scope. When they're too good to need a scope...? Give the Magsex some love.
hfderrtgvcd 1390	Posted - 2014.11.30 17:22:00 - [7] - Quote The breach ar is ridiculously op. I've even seen amarr and minmatar assaults using it instead of their racial rifles. You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2208	Posted - 2014.11.30 17:29:00 - [8] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Basic breach assault rifle: 2,460 ISK 58.1 base damage per shot 415.16 DPS 36 round mag 300 total rounds No kick No charge 74m effective range 56.78 accuracy rating Kaalakiota rail rifle: 47,220 ISK 51.7 base damage per shot 397.69 DPS 42 round mag 252 total rounds LOTS of kick 0.45s charge 100m effective range 54.47 accuracy rating Why would I use my rail rifle, or any other rifle for that matter, over the breach ar? max range/effective and scope. and the fact its +10(25 @ prof 5) vs armor which helps vs all the peoplewho armor tank which is like 80% of the player base #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Ryme Intrinseca Dead Man's Game RUST415 2129	Posted - 2014.11.30 17:35:00 - [9] - Quote hfderrtgvcd wrote: The breach ar is ridiculously op. I've even seen amarr and minmatar assaults using it instead of their racial rifles. I've seen Amarr Assaults using nova knives as their main weapon, so I wouldn't use what you see in pubs as evidence of anything. A Viziam on an Amarr Assault or Sixkin on a Min Assault are probably the only two guns in the game that are better than the Creodron BrAR at present.
Vitantur Nothus Nos Nothi 802	Posted - 2014.11.30 17:41:00 - [10] - Quote Don't forget that Breach hipfire! Among the best in the game.

Ryme Intrinseca Dead Man's Game RUST415 2130	Posted - 2014.11.30 17:46:00 - [11] - Quote Vitantur Nothus wrote: Don't forget that Breach hipfire! Among the best in the game. Breach AR has the same 'yep, you're dead' certainty about the hipfire as the CR, ACR, etc. IMHO what separates it from those weapons is the monster amount of damage in the clip.
NextDark Knight Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 654	Posted - 2014.11.30 17:53:00 - [12] - Quote Just don't use the rail riffle.. I could never understand why there was so much hate for the rail riffle until I figured out my shield suit was immune to the damage. Guess all the armor users wanted a crutch.. Fing Cry Hards Over 60+ Million SP and full proto in all Caldari Suits. Dust just won't die on PS3/Xbox. Dustin since 6/29/2012
BIoody 619 D3ATH C4RD 25	Posted - 2014.11.30 17:53:00 - [13] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Basic breach assault rifle: 2,460 ISK 58.1 base damage per shot 415.16 DPS 36 round mag 300 total rounds No kick No charge 74m effective range 56.78 accuracy rating Kaalakiota rail rifle: 47,220 ISK 51.7 base damage per shot 397.69 DPS 42 round mag 252 total rounds LOTS of kick 0.45s charge 100m effective range 54.47 accuracy rating Why would I use my rail rifle, or any other rifle for that matter, over the breach ar? The breach assault rifle has the high on damage n low on range but the Kaalakiota Rail Rifle has the range cause of that scope either way its going be hell of a gun fight Gellente Region = Freedom Fighters {STD} Breach Assault + Red Dot = +50 SkillPoints Over 9,999,999,999
Pvt Numnutz Prophets of the Velocirapture 2011	Posted - 2014.11.30 18:06:00 - [14] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: max range/effective and scope. and the fact its +10(25 @ prof 5) vs armor which helps vs all the peoplewho armor tank which is like 80% of the player base Keep in mind this is a standard breach compared to a proto RR Master Skyshark rider Kaalaka dakka tamer
Myron Kundera The Generals 119	Posted - 2014.12.01 16:50:00 - [15] - Quote RR has a scope. Biggest effective range of all rifles and does armor damage. RR was the "god gun" for a while but got recently nerfed because of that. When i-¦m in a CQ map i use the Breach AR, when i-¦m in a open map i still use RR. Both weapons have a pourpose in the game, one to kill close, one to kill at range. A Standard RR will own a Creo Breach if you try to engage at the RR optimal, which is way out of the Breach optimal. "Greed, the forgotten mental disease" "Spray and pray makes my day" "Will use proto gear in self defense"
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 5989	Posted - 2014.12.01 16:53:00 - [16] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Why would I use my rail rifle, or any other rifle for that matter, over the breach ar? Range + Damage profile. (coming from someone who has used Breach AR for a LONG time and now uses RR) ( i prefer hitting people's armor than shields....) Amarrian Born. State Patriot.
Bright Steel Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 408	Posted - 2014.12.01 16:57:00 - [17] - Quote Since the breach got buffed I know when ever I get killed by, what sounds like two or three shots( think lag makes it worse for me) it's always a breach AR. The Best Worst game you can't stop playing..... DUST
Bright Steel Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 408	Posted - 2014.12.01 17:05:00 - [18] - Quote What's the rang on the breach? The Best Worst game you can't stop playing..... DUST
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 477	Posted - 2014.12.01 17:05:00 - [19] - Quote Right now, the breqch AR is a scout killer, they rely on shields and rarely armor tank. That being said i feel very confident in my dual tanked winmatar assult/BK42. Breaches can eat up my shileds by i will destroy armor suits at close range, breach or no. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 5994	Posted - 2014.12.01 18:25:00 - [20] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: Right now, the breqch AR is a scout killer, they rely on shields and rarely armor tank. That being said i feel very confident in my dual tanked winmatar assult/BK42. Breaches can eat up my shileds by i will destroy armor suits at close range, breach or no. I use Rail Rifle/ Flaylock for Armor. Flux for shields. Checkmate. Amarrian Born. State Patriot.

BL4CKST4R La Muerte Eterna Dark Taboo 3375	Posted - 2014.12.01 18:30:00 - [21] - Quote Because your using effective range to gage how useful the weapon is, try using optimal range which is 40M vs 71M.... at 74 meters (the AR's effective range) it does 124 DPS while the Rail is doing close to 397.69 DPS. So please stop providing misleading information. With that being said its obvious why one is more accurate than the other, because one is meant for short range and one isn't... supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
Henrietta Unknown Kirjuun Heiian 573	Posted - 2014.12.01 23:40:00 - [22] - Quote Those CQC objectives...of course the Breach shines, you need it to take an objective! Rarely do I see a letter exposed to RR's in the open. Give the Magsex some love.
ImIvan 58	Posted - 2014.12.02 00:16:00 - [23] - Quote The assault rifle should shred up close, not the breach. The breach is pretty much a buffed version of the assault rifle -.- Buff the AR and nerf the BAR a bit Why must you use prototypes?
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 442	Posted - 2014.12.02 00:31:00 - [24] - Quote Range. By miles. Darn near double.....


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