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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.11.24 17:27:00 -
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What's the most UP scout?
My vote is for minja
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nicholas73
Glitched Connection
289
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Posted - 2014.11.24 17:28:00 -
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Minja seconded
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Makuta Miserix
DOD - Fringe Division
268
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Posted - 2014.11.24 17:30:00 -
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Minja, isn't it obvious?
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2283
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Posted - 2014.11.24 17:31:00 -
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Minmatar, no question. |

Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
13920
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Posted - 2014.11.24 17:32:00 -
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Most Underpowered?
I'd say the Jovian. That thing's been nerfed so hard it's almost as if it never existed.
The 1st Matari Commando
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Aidualc
LATINOS KILLERS CORP Dark Taboo
8
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Posted - 2014.11.24 17:35:00 -
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Minmatar - nova knives, the most OP - Gallente - Shotgun.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
5072
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Posted - 2014.11.24 17:36:00 -
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I vote to give the Min Scout more Bandwidth than other Scouts.
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
13920
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Posted - 2014.11.24 17:37:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:I vote to give the Min Scout more Bandwidth than other Scouts. Why?
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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
353
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Posted - 2014.11.24 17:41:00 -
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Minja needs some kinda damping bonus
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2014.11.24 17:57:00 -
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Henrietta Unknown
Kirjuun Heiian
528
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Posted - 2014.11.24 18:04:00 -
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Minja lows: Damps, Range, Kincats, Hax mods. No room for hP.
Minja highs: PE's (without bonuses), DMG mods (not viable), and Shields (not enough to attain Cal Scout levels).
So yeah, Minja 4 life.
Give the Magsex some love.
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Vesperz
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
159
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Posted - 2014.11.24 18:15:00 -
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Obviously the Minmatar. I respect people who run Minja, minus the cloak is even better, GAL scouts and CAL scouts? Not so much. I've specced into both in the past and they're... so damn easy it's ridiculous. It's mostly GAL/CAL I see. Not often I run into a fellow Minbro for knife duels.
...Also... don't give the Minja a dampening bonus, keep the knives and hacking. :)
"Live by honor, kill by stealth."
Gal Scout since 1.0, Min Scout since 1.1
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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
355
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Posted - 2014.11.24 18:18:00 -
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Vesperz wrote:Obviously the Minmatar. I respect people who run Minja, minus the cloak is even better, GAL scouts and CAL scouts? Not so much. I've specced into both in the past and they're... so damn easy it's ridiculous.  It's mostly GAL/CAL I see. Not often I run into a fellow Minbro for knife duels. ...Also... don't give the Minja a dampening bonus, keep the knives and hacking. :) I hate when I see a guy with knives out and I slash the air for a duel Then he shoots me.... WTF
or that random res or blue that interrupts a gentleman's duel
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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
355
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Posted - 2014.11.24 18:20:00 -
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I use minja so I have an excuse for sucking
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Vesperz
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
160
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Posted - 2014.11.24 18:24:00 -
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Bright Steel wrote:Vesperz wrote:Obviously the Minmatar. I respect people who run Minja, minus the cloak is even better, GAL scouts and CAL scouts? Not so much. I've specced into both in the past and they're... so damn easy it's ridiculous.  It's mostly GAL/CAL I see. Not often I run into a fellow Minbro for knife duels. ...Also... don't give the Minja a dampening bonus, keep the knives and hacking. :) I hate when I see a guy with knives out and I slash the air for a duel Then he shoots me.... WTF or that random res or blue that interrupts a gentleman's duel
Dirty Gal's do that I find. I haven't run into a Minmatar who has disrespected the honor code. Yet.
Also yes, there was a match in FW where my buddy and another min were going to knife duel and I was watching from the second tier platform... this amarr assault comes up next to me and begins firing at the red-dot as they're both dueling. I start punching him in the side of the head to get him to stop, he does... and watches too. My buddy lost the duel but we killed the winner anyway. Good times.
"Live by honor, kill by stealth."
Gal Scout since 1.0, Min Scout since 1.1
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shaman oga
Krullefor Organization
3303
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Posted - 2014.11.24 18:28:00 -
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Minnie, no EW and no HP.
But if EW will be balanced it will become the most powerful of all.
Situational awareness also known as passive scan.
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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
1846
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Posted - 2014.11.24 18:41:00 -
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Judging by what I see in matches it must be the Amarr as it's almost as rare as Tonberry Sentinels.
Bright Steel wrote: I hate when I see a guy with knives out and I slash the air for a duel Then he shoots me.... WTF
or that random res or blue that interrupts a gentleman's duel
This ain't the 17th century, if you want to duel then get off the battlefield.
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2614
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Posted - 2014.11.24 18:43:00 -
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Going against the grain here, but I'm kind of tired of everyone complaining that the Min scout has no EWAR (specifically dampening).
It can dampen just as well as every other scout (i.e. Get under even bonused Duvoll Focused scans). Precision is worthless on everything but Amarr and it has plenty of lows to focus on range of that's what you're after.
There may be a valid argument for more fitting room (I personally haven't tried fitting one), but people complaining that they can't have damps+KinCats+whatever, to me, seem just to want to fit everything no problem instead of give-and-take.
I'll admit that it's probably the most underpowered scout though.
I'm almost tempted to skill into it just to see.
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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
356
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Posted - 2014.11.24 18:49:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:Judging by what I see in matches it must be the Amarr as it's almost as rare as Tonberry Sentinels. Bright Steel wrote: I hate when I see a guy with knives out and I slash the air for a duel Then he shoots me.... WTF
or that random res or blue that interrupts a gentleman's duel
This ain't the 17th century, if you want to duel then get off the battlefield. ^ if I could take your likes I would 
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Vesperz
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
161
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Posted - 2014.11.24 18:53:00 -
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Bright Steel wrote:Thumb Green wrote:Judging by what I see in matches it must be the Amarr as it's almost as rare as Tonberry Sentinels. Bright Steel wrote: I hate when I see a guy with knives out and I slash the air for a duel Then he shoots me.... WTF
or that random res or blue that interrupts a gentleman's duel
This ain't the 17th century, if you want to duel then get off the battlefield. ^ if I could take your likes I would 
Do one better, you see him in a match, pull out the knives. 
"Live by honor, kill by stealth."
Gal Scout since 1.0, Min Scout since 1.1
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Mike Ox Bigger
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
512
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Posted - 2014.11.24 18:54:00 -
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This UP suit you speak up, the Minja, I've seen some people do amazing things with these suits. Never underestimate the power of speed and nova's :)
Worst scout by far is Amarr.
If you're not wearing proto, you're doing it wrong.
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Henrietta Unknown
Kirjuun Heiian
528
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Posted - 2014.11.24 18:55:00 -
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And just how hard is it to fit a cloak on a Minja than on other scouts of equal skill level?
Without gimping the suit?
Give the Magsex some love.
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
5940
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Posted - 2014.11.24 18:57:00 -
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Bright Steel wrote:What's the most UP scout?
My vote is for minja
I vote...
Mimja.
Although i must admit, all Scouts are powerful in their specific fields...
The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT....
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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
1847
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Posted - 2014.11.24 19:22:00 -
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Vesperz wrote:Bright Steel wrote:Thumb Green wrote:Judging by what I see in matches it must be the Amarr as it's almost as rare as Tonberry Sentinels. Bright Steel wrote: I hate when I see a guy with knives out and I slash the air for a duel Then he shoots me.... WTF
or that random res or blue that interrupts a gentleman's duel
This ain't the 17th century, if you want to duel then get off the battlefield. ^ if I could take your likes I would  Do one better, you see him in a match, pull out the knives.  I'll shoot him in the face, then I'll knife his body to make sure he stays dead.
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Mike Ox Bigger
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
516
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Posted - 2014.11.24 19:44:00 -
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Henrietta Unknown wrote:And just how hard is it to fit a cloak on a Minja than on other scouts of equal skill level?
Without gimping the suit?
I don't know, I'm hardcore and don't use one.
If you're not wearing proto, you're doing it wrong.
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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
698
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Posted - 2014.11.24 19:58:00 -
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5 months, I ran exclusively the Min Scout.
5 MONTHS
You may have heard that I recently specced into Gal Scout, and it really puts into perspective how bad the Min Scout really is. The Min Scout doesn't have enough PG, the bonuses are pathetic, and it's paper-thin. Everything the Min Scout can do, the Gal Scout can do pretty much 10x better. A Gal Scout - or even an Amarr Scout - can achieve similar hacking speeds, AND be better dampened in the Gal Scout's case, and the Amarr Scout can still have top-notch precision.
For knifing? Well, the Gal Scout can achieve similar speeds, whilst having similar EHP, and having a lower profile. And the extra damage from the Min Scout isn't that useful really - you could just do a follow-up slash with any other scout before the red even realises.
IMO, it goes:
Gal Scout Amarr Scout Cal Scout Min Scout
The Min Scout is seriously UP.
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Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
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Vesperz
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
165
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Posted - 2014.11.24 20:00:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:Henrietta Unknown wrote:And just how hard is it to fit a cloak on a Minja than on other scouts of equal skill level?
Without gimping the suit? I don't know, I'm hardcore and don't use one.
That's the way brother!
"Live by honor, kill by stealth."
Gal Scout since 1.0, Min Scout since 1.1
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Vesperz
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
165
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Posted - 2014.11.24 20:08:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:5 months, I ran exclusively the Min Scout.
5 MONTHS
You may have heard that I recently specced into Gal Scout, and it really puts into perspective how bad the Min Scout really is. The Min Scout doesn't have enough PG, the bonuses are pathetic, and it's paper-thin. Everything the Min Scout can do, the Gal Scout can do pretty much 10x better. A Gal Scout - or even an Amarr Scout - can achieve similar hacking speeds, AND be better dampened in the Gal Scout's case, and the Amarr Scout can still have top-notch precision.
For knifing? Well, the Gal Scout can achieve similar speeds, whilst having similar EHP, and having a lower profile. And the extra damage from the Min Scout isn't that useful really - you could just do a follow-up slash with any other scout before the red even realises.
IMO, it goes:
Gal Scout Amarr Scout Cal Scout Min Scout
The Min Scout is seriously UP.
I do enjoy beating other scouts with the underdog suit of suits. I've been running my ADV min scout with a basic mass driver and an SMG, 2 cmplx kincats and a nanohive with fluxnades. I'm a turbo fast bomber. 
"Live by honor, kill by stealth."
Gal Scout since 1.0, Min Scout since 1.1
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Mike Ox Bigger
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
518
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Posted - 2014.11.24 20:22:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:5 months, I ran exclusively the Min Scout.
5 MONTHS
You may have heard that I recently specced into Gal Scout, and it really puts into perspective how bad the Min Scout really is. The Min Scout doesn't have enough PG, the bonuses are pathetic, and it's paper-thin. Everything the Min Scout can do, the Gal Scout can do pretty much 10x better. A Gal Scout - or even an Amarr Scout - can achieve similar hacking speeds, AND be better dampened in the Gal Scout's case, and the Amarr Scout can still have top-notch precision.
For knifing? Well, the Gal Scout can achieve similar speeds, whilst having similar EHP, and having a lower profile. And the extra damage from the Min Scout isn't that useful really - you could just do a follow-up slash with any other scout before the red even realises.
IMO, it goes:
Gal Scout Amarr Scout Cal Scout Min Scout
The Min Scout is seriously UP.
I saw one of your other posts where you said you only have level 3 in Dampening. I'm not sure what you were doing for those five months but surely you should have maxed out your EWAR by then. EWAR is what truly makes you a bad ass scout. If you don't have dampening I bet you don't have the precision or range maxed either.
Get those skills maxed, get your complex kin cats and then run with the Minja. It's like a whole new world.
EDIT: My Rankings 1. Cal Sout 2. Gal Scout 3. Min Scout 4. Am Scout
I've had all four of them proto'd at one time or another so this comes from experience.
If you're not wearing proto, you're doing it wrong.
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Ace Boone
Capital Acquisitions LLC
400
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Posted - 2014.11.24 20:28:00 -
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The minmitar or Amarr.
The amarr is terribly slow, and it's bonus is pretty bad to me. Especially since scouts can avoid it anyways and active scanners are way better than passive.
Minmitar has a unique bonus, but it's pretty squishy. It's also fast, which is a plus, but it's hard to fit.
It was hard to slay in a min scout, but goddamnit it was satisfying.
Only loyal to the republic.
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