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Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1117	Posted - 2014.11.23 06:50:00 - [1] - Quote Scouts with Cloak and Passive scans were a deadly combination so you made it so you have close to no passive scans while cloak is active. According to this logic.. Heavies with thousands of HP and highest DPS weapon in game is also a deadly combination, you should make it so when HMG is being held, heavy HP is reduced by 85% (roughly the same as cloak nerf). CCP is this fair? No, please give back scouts the thing that makes them scout. Ever since passive cloak scan nerf Scout vs Scout isn't fun. I liked it before where the man that brought the goodies (precision enhancers-dampener war) won. Now it is by chance we run into scouts, for the most part they are almost impossible to hunt down. Please, for the good of the game and scout community make EWAR a thing again. Every scout is now brick tanking because Precision enhancers and range amplifiers offer no benefit at all. I am fine with the delay except for the fact that even when you are just holding the watch and not cloaked you still have delay. Chocolate Juice
Crimson ShieId Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1413	Posted - 2014.11.23 08:11:00 - [2] - Quote Obligatory comment about needing to heal without the crutch, getting good, etc, etc... It's just so sad, isn't it? The idea that scouts might actually need to learn to scout without a cloak, or use a combination of scanning and their eyes. How dare CCP put disadvantages on a piece of equipment. Quote: No, please give back scouts the thing that makes them scout. Ever since passive cloak scan nerf Scout vs Scout isn't fun. I liked it before where the man that brought the goodies (precision enhancers-dampener war) won. Now it is by chance we run into scouts, for the most part they are almost impossible to hunt down. Don't you mean the Gallente scout who brought the dampeners and shotgun? Edit: The saddest part of this is the idea that you think the cloak makes the scout and not the playstyle or the skills of the player behind the suit. Now go home and think about what you've said, and perhaps if you're good, you can come out of the corner in a week. I want to punch.
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 997	Posted - 2014.11.23 08:14:00 - [3] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: No, please give back scouts the thing that makes them scout. Please, for the good of the game and scout community make EWAR a thing again. Every scout is now brick tanking because Precision enhancers and range amplifiers offer no benefit at all. I'm a scout. I don't use a cloak. Never have. 'Cept the ten-odd times when they first came out - trash equipment ;-) You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all. ~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
Ryme Intrinseca Dead Man's Game RUST415 2061	Posted - 2014.11.23 11:10:00 - [4] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Scouts with Cloak and Passive scans were a deadly combination so you made it so you have close to no passive scans while cloak is active. According to this logic.. Heavies with thousands of HP and highest DPS weapon in game is also a deadly combination, you should make it so when HMG is being held, heavy HP is reduced by 85% (roughly the same as cloak nerf). CCP is this fair? No, please give back scouts the thing that makes them scout. Ever since passive cloak scan nerf Scout vs Scout isn't fun. I liked it before where the man that brought the goodies (precision enhancers-dampener war) won. Now it is by chance we run into scouts, for the most part they are almost impossible to hunt down. Please, for the good of the game and scout community make EWAR a thing again. Every scout is now brick tanking because Precision enhancers and range amplifiers offer no benefit at all. I am fine with the delay except for the fact that even when you are just holding the watch and not cloaked you still have delay. Cloaked scouts are still stupidly OP and everyone knows it. Signed, Dude with three proto scout suits
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1120	Posted - 2014.11.23 14:55:00 - [5] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: Obligatory comment about needing to heal without the crutch, getting good, etc, etc... It's just so sad, isn't it? The idea that scouts might actually need to learn to scout without a cloak, or use a combination of scanning and their eyes. How dare CCP put disadvantages on a piece of equipment. Quote: No, please give back scouts the thing that makes them scout. Ever since passive cloak scan nerf Scout vs Scout isn't fun. I liked it before where the man that brought the goodies (precision enhancers-dampener war) won. Now it is by chance we run into scouts, for the most part they are almost impossible to hunt down. Don't you mean the Gallente scout who brought the dampeners and shotgun? Edit: The saddest part of this is the idea that you think the cloak makes the scout and not the playstyle or the skills of the player behind the suit. Now go home and think about what you've said, and perhaps if you're good, you can come out of the corner in a week. Lol, I was thinking that when a scout is bothering my team I would put precision on and scan him. Except now I'm a 200 ehp scout that does in under half a second to everything. This is where the cloak comes in, I can hide from enemies and just hunt down the one specific scout but wait. The cloak just takes all the bonuses I got from those precision enhancers and range amps and throws it down the drain thus forcing me to run this 50k isk+ weak scout for the passives. Ok, fine I can just avoid people and hunt this scout. Oh look there he is- starts firing at 400 hp+ scout. Scout: ShT!! Me: Gatcha bish Scout: turns around and kills me in .3 seconds with his breach AR Me: This game sucks. Chocolate Juice
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1120	Posted - 2014.11.23 15:04:00 - [6] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: Obligatory comment about needing to heal without the crutch, getting good, etc, etc... It's just so sad, isn't it? The idea that scouts might actually need to learn to scout without a cloak, or use a combination of scanning and their eyes. How dare CCP put disadvantages on a piece of equipment. Quote: No, please give back scouts the thing that makes them scout. Ever since passive cloak scan nerf Scout vs Scout isn't fun. I liked it before where the man that brought the goodies (precision enhancers-dampener war) won. Now it is by chance we run into scouts, for the most part they are almost impossible to hunt down. Don't you mean the Gallente scout who brought the dampeners and shotgun? Edit: The saddest part of this is the idea that you think the cloak makes the scout and not the playstyle or the skills of the player behind the suit. Now go home and think about what you've said, and perhaps if you're good, you can come out of the corner in a week. Do you remember back when there was no cloak and nobody ran scouts? Did you ever ask yourself why? Because 300-400 hp scout suits were dead as soon as spotted. This is very true today, if scouts ran without cloak you would see a lot of them dead except for those wussies that run like cowards from any sign of danger and are on bottom of leader board Take note: Cloak made scout worth a damn no matter what you say. I used to run scout (nova knife) pre-cloak and trust me when I say It was not fun getting mowed down by people 60m away in under a .5 seconds to every weapon. The scout now had an alternative way of life. Instead of tanking every single hit point when scouts didn't have cloak. The cloak made it so you didn't have to tank and make use of scout modules like precision mods and range amps. Except CCP just nerfed that aspect/ benefit of the cloak. Now all you see are tanked ass scouts rolling around still unscannable. Chocolate Juice
Stupid Blueberry Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm 625	Posted - 2014.11.23 15:49:00 - [7] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Crimson ShieId wrote: Obligatory comment about needing to heal without the crutch, getting good, etc, etc... It's just so sad, isn't it? The idea that scouts might actually need to learn to scout without a cloak, or use a combination of scanning and their eyes. How dare CCP put disadvantages on a piece of equipment. Quote: No, please give back scouts the thing that makes them scout. Ever since passive cloak scan nerf Scout vs Scout isn't fun. I liked it before where the man that brought the goodies (precision enhancers-dampener war) won. Now it is by chance we run into scouts, for the most part they are almost impossible to hunt down. Don't you mean the Gallente scout who brought the dampeners and shotgun? Edit: The saddest part of this is the idea that you think the cloak makes the scout and not the playstyle or the skills of the player behind the suit. Now go home and think about what you've said, and perhaps if you're good, you can come out of the corner in a week. Do you remember back when there was no cloak and nobody ran scouts? Did you ever ask yourself why? Because 300-400 hp scout suits were dead as soon as spotted. This is very true today, if scouts ran without cloak you would see a lot of them dead except for those wussies that run like cowards from any sign of danger and are on bottom of leader board Take note: Cloak made scout worth a damn no matter what you say. I used to run scout (nova knife) pre-cloak and trust me when I say It was not fun getting mowed down by people 60m away in under a .5 seconds to every weapon. The scout now had an alternative way of life. Instead of tanking every single hit point when scouts didn't have cloak. The cloak made it so you didn't have to tank and make use of scout modules like precision mods and range amps. Except CCP just nerfed that aspect/ benefit of the cloak. Now all you see are tanked ass scouts rolling around still unscannable. Think you might just be a scrub. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Haajakin Kalen.
Mike Ox Bigger KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 501	Posted - 2014.11.23 15:52:00 - [8] - Quote If you're scouting properly, you just use the cloak to cross open terrain/escape the enemy. I still get shot by people who are invisible, so to me the delay isn't really working. I say remove the whole thing from the game and get rid of all the Scout scrubs. The true scouts will remain and still be feared. If you're not wearing proto, you're doing it wrong.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 8192	Posted - 2014.11.23 15:53:00 - [9] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Scouts with Cloak and Passive scans were a deadly combination so you made it so you have close to no passive scans while cloak is active. According to this logic.. Heavies with thousands of HP and highest DPS weapon in game is also a deadly combination, you should make it so when HMG is being held, heavy HP is reduced by 85% (roughly the same as cloak nerf). CCP is this fair? No, please give back scouts the thing that makes them scout. Ever since passive cloak scan nerf Scout vs Scout isn't fun. I liked it before where the man that brought the goodies (precision enhancers-dampener war) won. Now it is by chance we run into scouts, for the most part they are almost impossible to hunt down. Please, for the good of the game and scout community make EWAR a thing again. Every scout is now brick tanking because Precision enhancers and range amplifiers offer no benefit at all. I am fine with the delay except for the fact that even when you are just holding the watch and not cloaked you still have delay. Cloaked scouts are still stupidly OP and everyone knows it. Signed, Dude with three proto scout suits Scouts are still stupidly OP and everyone knows it. Cloaks are not the problem here. I'm debating with others to find out the real problem, but cloaks are NOT it. You can take any decent scout, remove cloak and still watch the killfeed. Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in! FA recruits get free officer BPO's. Enlist today. Must be a scrub to enter.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 8192	Posted - 2014.11.23 15:57:00 - [10] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Crimson ShieId wrote: Obligatory comment about needing to heal without the crutch, getting good, etc, etc... It's just so sad, isn't it? The idea that scouts might actually need to learn to scout without a cloak, or use a combination of scanning and their eyes. How dare CCP put disadvantages on a piece of equipment. Quote: No, please give back scouts the thing that makes them scout. Ever since passive cloak scan nerf Scout vs Scout isn't fun. I liked it before where the man that brought the goodies (precision enhancers-dampener war) won. Now it is by chance we run into scouts, for the most part they are almost impossible to hunt down. Don't you mean the Gallente scout who brought the dampeners and shotgun? Edit: The saddest part of this is the idea that you think the cloak makes the scout and not the playstyle or the skills of the player behind the suit. Now go home and think about what you've said, and perhaps if you're good, you can come out of the corner in a week. Do you remember back when there was no cloak and nobody ran scouts? Did you ever ask yourself why? Because 300-400 hp scout suits were dead as soon as spotted. This is very true today, if scouts ran without cloak you would see a lot of them dead except for those wussies that run like cowards from any sign of danger and are on bottom of leader board Only the bad ones. I was in FA in 1.7, which was the build right before the Caldari Master Race. Long Story Short, scouts were used in PC. You typically had 1-2 per team, and their job was simple: Remove Uplinks, Kill anything that had its back to you. And it WORKED. You ran damps and speed and just ran around doing this job. TTW would post great K/Ds, and so would myself, B0R0M1R and Knight Soiare (And others, just listing the ones I remember that were active in the ERA war.) Cloaks just require you to play a LOT more conservatively, and to run from anything that sees you. Engaging from behind was standard procedure, and you HAD to stealth and speed tank. Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in! FA recruits get free officer BPO's. Enlist today. Must be a scrub to enter.

Mike Ox Bigger KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 502	Posted - 2014.11.23 16:01:00 - [11] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Do you remember back when there was no cloak and nobody ran scouts? Did you ever ask yourself why? Because 300-400 hp scout suits were dead as soon as spotted. This is very true today, if scouts ran without cloak you would see a lot of them dead except for those wussies that run like cowards from any sign of danger and are on bottom of leader board Take note: Cloak made scout worth a damn no matter what you say. I used to run scout (nova knife) pre-cloak and trust me when I say It was not fun getting mowed down by people 60m away in under a .5 seconds to every weapon. The scout now had an alternative way of life. Instead of tanking every single hit point when scouts didn't have cloak. The cloak made it so you didn't have to tank and make use of scout modules like precision mods and range amps. Except CCP just nerfed that aspect/ benefit of the cloak. Now all you see are tanked ass scouts rolling around still unscannable. There's a huge difference in those times, almost too many to explain. Basically armor plates were 40, 60, 85 not what they currently are, so tanking was harder. Speed was pretty much all you had and it really didn't help much. They didn't have as many slots as they do now. EWAR was no where near as strong. They had a lower precision but the range of an assault. Two equipment slots now, small hit box and quick regen shields. The suits are OP without a cloak. I run a scout with no cloak and regularly go 20-3 or similar in pub matches. It's so OP I don't even like running it until I get shotgunned a few times, I stick to my Assault because I like a challenge. If you're not wearing proto, you're doing it wrong.
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 2131	Posted - 2014.11.23 16:09:00 - [12] - Quote Invisible people appearing mystically behind you and O-2HKing you is not the same as a heavy. One you can't fight back till it's happened, the other you can fight back against, albeit you need friends. Keep QQing about it. I live for it. I Live for Tears
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V. 1980	Posted - 2014.11.23 16:14:00 - [13] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Scouts with Cloak and Passive scans were a deadly combination so you made it so you have close to no passive scans while cloak is active. According to this logic.. Heavies with thousands of HP and highest DPS weapon in game is also a deadly combination, you should make it so when HMG is being held, heavy HP is reduced by 85% (roughly the same as cloak nerf). CCP is this fair? No, please give back scouts the thing that makes them scout. Ever since passive cloak scan nerf Scout vs Scout isn't fun. I liked it before where the man that brought the goodies (precision enhancers-dampener war) won. Now it is by chance we run into scouts, for the most part they are almost impossible to hunt down. Please, for the good of the game and scout community make EWAR a thing again. Every scout is now brick tanking because Precision enhancers and range amplifiers offer no benefit at all. I am fine with the delay except for the fact that even when you are just holding the watch and not cloaked you still have delay. so you want a cloak for "scouting" fine then keep your range and precision add a 5+ second firing delay so that if you in your stupidity get caught you are guaranteed to die Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command 859	Posted - 2014.11.23 16:20:00 - [14] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Do you remember back when there was no cloak and nobody ran scouts? Did you ever ask yourself why? Because 300-400 hp scout suits were dead as soon as spotted. This is very true today, if scouts ran without cloak you would see a lot of them dead except for those wussies that run like cowards from any sign of danger and are on bottom of leader board I used to run an adv GalScout with a GEK in the 6 months before 1.8 dropped. That suit single-handedly took my KDR from ~1.8 to 3.0. And I'm not an above-average player at all. I actually kinda suck. eWar is just that powerful.
Duke Noobiam The-Devil's-Rejects 266	Posted - 2014.11.23 16:52:00 - [15] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Scouts with Cloak and Passive scans were a deadly combination so you made it so you have close to no passive scans while cloak is active. According to this logic.. Heavies with thousands of HP and highest DPS weapon in game is also a deadly combination, you should make it so when HMG is being held, heavy HP is reduced by 85% (roughly the same as cloak nerf). CCP is this fair? No, please give back scouts the thing that makes them scout. Ever since passive cloak scan nerf Scout vs Scout isn't fun. I liked it before where the man that brought the goodies (precision enhancers-dampener war) won. Now it is by chance we run into scouts, for the most part they are almost impossible to hunt down. Please, for the good of the game and scout community make EWAR a thing again. Every scout is now brick tanking because Precision enhancers and range amplifiers offer no benefit at all. I am fine with the delay except for the fact that even when you are just holding the watch and not cloaked you still have delay. You're a scrub, you need to work on your situational awareness. BPO dropsuits owned: Sever M-1 logi, Quafe M-1 assault, Quafe M-1 scout, Raven C-1 assault, Dragonfly G-1 scout
Crimson ShieId Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1415	Posted - 2014.11.23 16:54:00 - [16] - Quote Quote: Lol, I was thinking that when a scout is bothering my team I would put precision on and scan him. Except now I'm a 200 ehp scout that does in under half a second to everything. This is where the cloak comes in, I can hide from enemies and just hunt down the one specific scout but wait. The cloak just takes all the bonuses I got from those precision enhancers and range amps and throws it down the drain thus forcing me to run this 50k isk+ weak scout for the passives. Ok, fine I can just avoid people and hunt this scout. Oh look there he is- starts firing at 400 hp+ scout. Scout: ShT!! Me: Gatcha bish Scout: turns around and kills me in .3 seconds with his breach AR Me: This game sucks. Points back to Gallente scouts I might argue alongside you if it wasn't for the ability of these guys to remain completely off the radar. If you're doing it right though, you never engage a target that you know you can't win against. Caldari scouts are generally a no-no unless you're using a ScR or can get a headshot with a bolt or scrambler pistol. That's the thing about scouts, you have to chose your engagements wisely. You don't go after a proto heavy who's constantly checking his six, you go after the idiot with no situational awareness. Don't forget to pick your targets according to your weapon. Don't be going after Caldari with ACR's, and don't go after an Amarr heavy when all you have is a GEK. And back to your 400EHP scout, on the chance that you do come across one and they're not dampened enough to evade your scans, just wait, follow them... and strike when they least expect it, preferably after they've engaged a blueberry. Moody demonstrates this idea nicely. I want to punch.
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1126	Posted - 2014.11.23 18:21:00 - [17] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Invisible people appearing mystically behind you and O-2HKing you is not the same as a heavy. One you can't fight back till it's happened, the other you can fight back against, albeit you need friends. Keep QQing about it. I live for it. That is a shotgun problem. Chocolate Juice
ROMULUS H3X research lab 226	Posted - 2014.11.23 19:43:00 - [18] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Scouts with Cloak and Passive scans were a deadly combination so you made it so you have close to no passive scans while cloak is active. According to this logic.. Heavies with thousands of HP and highest DPS weapon in game is also a deadly combination, you should make it so when HMG is being held, heavy HP is reduced by 85% (roughly the same as cloak nerf). CCP is this fair? No, please give back scouts the thing that makes them scout. Ever since passive cloak scan nerf Scout vs Scout isn't fun. I liked it before where the man that brought the goodies (precision enhancers-dampener war) won. Now it is by chance we run into scouts, for the most part they are almost impossible to hunt down. Please, for the good of the game and scout community make EWAR a thing again. Every scout is now brick tanking because Precision enhancers and range amplifiers offer no benefit at all. I am fine with the delay except for the fact that even when you are just holding the watch and not cloaked you still have delay. Nope. You can still fire while cloaked so let's fix that first.... FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS PLASMA/PISTOL/PUNCH ALL OF YOU PUNKS GET HUMILIATED AFTER LUNCH!
Sylwester Dziewiecki Interregnum. 437	Posted - 2014.11.23 21:33:00 - [19] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Crimson ShieId wrote: Obligatory comment about needing to heal without the crutch, getting good, etc, etc... It's just so sad, isn't it? The idea that scouts might actually need to learn to scout without a cloak, or use a combination of scanning and their eyes. How dare CCP put disadvantages on a piece of equipment. Quote: No, please give back scouts the thing that makes them scout. Ever since passive cloak scan nerf Scout vs Scout isn't fun. I liked it before where the man that brought the goodies (precision enhancers-dampener war) won. Now it is by chance we run into scouts, for the most part they are almost impossible to hunt down. Don't you mean the Gallente scout who brought the dampeners and shotgun? Edit: The saddest part of this is the idea that you think the cloak makes the scout and not the playstyle or the skills of the player behind the suit. Now go home and think about what you've said, and perhaps if you're good, you can come out of the corner in a week. Do you remember back when there was no cloak and nobody ran scouts? Did you ever ask yourself why? Because 300-400 hp scout suits were dead as soon as spotted. This is very true today, if scouts ran without cloak you would see a lot of them dead except for those wussies that run like cowards from any sign of danger and are on bottom of leader board Only the bad ones. I was in FA in 1.7, which was the build right before the Caldari Master Race. Long Story Short, scouts were used in PC. You typically had 1-2 per team, and their job was simple: Remove Uplinks, Kill anything that had its back to you. And it WORKED. You ran damps and speed and just ran around doing this job. TTW would post great K/Ds, and so would myself, B0R0M1R and Knight Soiare (And others, just listing the ones I remember that were active in the ERA war.) Cloaks just require you to play a LOT more conservatively, and to run from anything that sees you. Engaging from behind was standard procedure, and you HAD to stealth and speed tank. Correct me if I'm wrong, but did we had 360* passive scan back then or just 60*, because it is giant difference. Before cloak introduction and scout balance I had no problems with 'lurking in the shadows', and in good locations with tide corridors I was able to kill entire squads of players.. Gallente Speed Scout. EVE side of me: Nosum Hseebnrido
Sylwester Dziewiecki Interregnum. 437	Posted - 2014.11.23 21:41:00 - [20] - Quote Mike Ox Bigger wrote: There's a huge difference in those times, almost too many to explain. Basically armor plates were 40, 60, 85 not what they currently are, so tanking was harder. Speed was pretty much all you had and it really didn't help much. They didn't have as many slots as they do now. EWAR was no where near as strong. They had a lower precision but the range of an assault. Two equipment slots now, small hit box and quick regen shields. The suits are OP without a cloak. I run a scout with no cloak and regularly go 20-3 or similar in pub matches. It's so OP I don't even like running it until I get shotgunned a few times, I stick to my Assault because I like a challenge. Gk.0 have basic 80 shields and two high slots, with usually are used for precision when you run without cloak... so, thank you for your feedback, next time try to be more specific, because you referring to specific racial suit - caldari - and put opinion about scouts as whole with is harmful. Gallente Speed Scout. EVE side of me: Nosum Hseebnrido

Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 245	Posted - 2014.11.23 21:46:00 - [21] - Quote Hey, if they give me my splash damage resistance so I can live through those hilariously ridiculous remotes and something done to those God forsaken shotguns, I don't care how they buff your scout >.> G.L.O.R.Y solider, Heavy, Assault, Logi... I got what you need yo ;D
Sylwester Dziewiecki Interregnum. 437	Posted - 2014.11.23 22:18:00 - [22] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: Hey, if they give me my splash damage resistance so I can live through those hilariously ridiculous remotes and something done to those God forsaken shotguns, I don't care how they buff your scout >.> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=181691&find=unread You can fight over here for being able to detect RE. Gallente Speed Scout. EVE side of me: Nosum Hseebnrido
Crimson ShieId Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1416	Posted - 2014.11.23 22:34:00 - [23] - Quote Quote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but did we had 360* passive scan back then or just 60*, because it is giant difference. Before cloak introduction and scout balance I had no problems with 'lurking in the shadows', and in good locations with tide corridors I was able to kill entire squads of players.. Yes, we did indeed, but very few people used them. The scan range was a bit lower then at base, but only by a small amount. I had a Min scout with about 40 meters of scan range, and because of the lack of scouts, I usually didn't even have to fit a precision enhancer to see everyone with that range. Gallente scouts could supposedly get around 100 meters with their bonus, so... yea. It was definitely still there, it just wasn't common. I want to punch.
maluble Art.of.Death VP Gaming Alliance 182	Posted - 2014.11.24 00:02:00 - [24] - Quote Take away shotgun and scout qq is halfed.


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