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Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1112	Posted - 2014.11.23 04:54:00 - [1] - Quote Specced into caldari scout for precision- CCP: gets taken away and given to Gallante and Amarr Fine, at least I can scan people from far. CCP: Makes it so you cannot scan a heavy standing right behind you when cloak activated. Fine, I'll live with it, I can still defend my self when I accidentally run into some one. CCP: Add the delay to cloak so when a cloak user runs into a player he cannot defend himself. Thanks CCP- You made scouts in general blind so now they run into herds of players because they don't know where the F they are going, then you made it so that there is 1 sec delay (1sec is equivalent to 450 damage from average weapon, and 800 damage from an HMG) so now they cannot defend themselves when they accidentally run into a pile of reds. It makes perfect sense that a caldari scout (The king of scans) cannot scan a mofo heavy 3m behind him even with 2.5 million SP invested into the suit itself and another 1 million into range extenders. Request: Give us back one of our balls. You took two and now we have none. Either give us back passive scans while cloaked or remove the delay. P.S. the delay was an attempt to nerf shotgun, but it went in the other direction. CCP: Shotgun is OP, let's nerf the cloak. # CCP logic. Chocolate Juice
gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 395	Posted - 2014.11.23 04:58:00 - [2] - Quote The caldari scout is a great assault suit as I recall. Just tank shields, blap, cover, blap. Oh yeah strafe, and regen in between there. You don't need to use the cloak... Gallente scout, heavy, logi, and assault Eternal Can I haz ur isk?
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1112	Posted - 2014.11.23 05:00:00 - [3] - Quote gustavo acosta wrote: The caldari scout is a great assault suit as I recall. Just tank shields, blap, cover, blap. Oh yeah strafe, and regen in between there. You don't need to use the cloak... Caldari scout is no longer meant to be used as a scout. They nefred the scout aspect and now everybody is using it brick tanked and a few still taking advantage of the OP shotgun. Chocolate Juice
Jynx'D Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 55	Posted - 2014.11.23 05:01:00 - [4] - Quote The scan I believe isn't a 360 one, you only get some of that scan from behind. If you want a better 360 scan you need to either put mods on to increase range or equip a scanner. also heavies with proper SP investment can get under your passive scans.
Lynn Beck Delta Vanguard 6 2293	Posted - 2014.11.23 05:02:00 - [5] - Quote Tip: Only use the cloak in bursts, or to traverse wide open terrain. Example: Rings map, by A, you scan an entire squad by B, and on the other end of that walkway overlooking A. Go on road behind A and sneak behind group across B (cloak) and toss a mote, then either cloak up where you have visual of the remote, or rely on passive scans uncloaked, then detonate, and quickly hack A, uncloaking on your way to A, then either recloaking(to keep the guys who will come back to across A from spotting you(thus making them trot over to try and find you, buying more time) or stay uncloaked so a knifer/shotgunner doesn't kill you before you see them. Even with LV5 MInja, I fit a basic cloak and full EWAR with 1 damp/range and twin precision, on my quafe. SCOUTS are far from dead/UP, Assault-Lite on the other hand, if stacking HP and relying on base stats/cloak for their Scoutliness, well then no duh they're going to die/be UP, as you're supposed to play to your frame's strong suit, not throw all your fitting space to shore up your weaknesses. General John Ripper -BAM! I'm Emeril Lagasse. This message was approved by the 'Nobody Loved You' Foundation'
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4846	Posted - 2014.11.23 05:02:00 - [6] - Quote Lol shared passive scans. Work with one other scout in the squad and it's EZ mode 514 all over again. Founder & CEO Fatal Absolution Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought Strive. No mattter what
gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 395	Posted - 2014.11.23 05:03:00 - [7] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: gustavo acosta wrote: The caldari scout is a great assault suit as I recall. Just tank shields, blap, cover, blap. Oh yeah strafe, and regen in between there. You don't need to use the cloak... Caldari scout is no longer meant to be used as a scout. They nefred the scout aspect and now everybody is using it brick tanked and a few still taking advantage of the OP shotgun. >says shotgun is op >hasn't tried the shotgun on any other suit besides the scout(cloaked apparently) Maybe you're right, we should nerf the caldari scout to force them into the terrible scouts they are! #burnitalldown Gallente scout, heavy, logi, and assault Eternal Can I haz ur isk?
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 6021	Posted - 2014.11.23 05:04:00 - [8] - Quote I don't understand why they took away their precision. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1112	Posted - 2014.11.23 05:06:00 - [9] - Quote gustavo acosta wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: gustavo acosta wrote: The caldari scout is a great assault suit as I recall. Just tank shields, blap, cover, blap. Oh yeah strafe, and regen in between there. You don't need to use the cloak... Caldari scout is no longer meant to be used as a scout. They nefred the scout aspect and now everybody is using it brick tanked and a few still taking advantage of the OP shotgun. >says shotgun is op >hasn't tried the shotgun on any other suit besides the scout(cloaked apparently) Maybe you're right, we should nerf the caldari scout to force them into the terrible scouts they are! #burnitalldown shotgun is to scout as HMG is to heavy. Medium frames should stick to rifles. P.S. I have a shotgun heavy and it is a monster. Chocolate Juice
Jynx'D Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 55	Posted - 2014.11.23 05:07:00 - [10] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: gustavo acosta wrote: The caldari scout is a great assault suit as I recall. Just tank shields, blap, cover, blap. Oh yeah strafe, and regen in between there. You don't need to use the cloak... Caldari scout is no longer meant to be used as a scout. They nefred the scout aspect and now everybody is using it brick tanked and a few still taking advantage of the OP shotgun. and fyi - if this is your preferred method of playing, then the natural consequence of better eyes is a weaker suit. You weren't meant to win many confrontations. You just want an OP suit. You either scan or you kill. You either cloak or you kill. You either cloak, scan, or kill. You're saying giving you two out of three of those would make things right for you. The only class who should QQ is the assaults - the commando class ****** them, as they should of had the dual wield light weapons and commandos should of never existed. Assaults can barely fulfill there role better then scouts - and tbh, with hit boxes, you're better off playing assault with a scout suit. And the shield tanking caladari scouts with RE's? Probably one of the most annoying things on the field. Especially ones walking around with those damn assault RR :(

Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1112	Posted - 2014.11.23 05:08:00 - [11] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I don't understand why they took away their precision. Caldari scouts gave up potential shield extenders (Main tank) which means they had to give up something to get something else. The Amarr scout isn't giving up crap other than shield extenders but who shield tanks a Amarr scout? That is a disgrace to the empress. Damage mods yeah but they aren't that good. AM scout main tank is in lows. All is good. Chocolate Juice
Vitantur Nothus Nos Nothi 599	Posted - 2014.11.23 05:09:00 - [12] - Quote Here's what will happen if/when your CalScout's racial bonuses are rewired to point to module efficacy instead of frame: Present CalScout (EWAR Mods :: EWAR Stats) 0 Damp, 0 Range :: 27dB, 45m <--- Beats 28dB proto scans 0 Damp, 1 Range :: 27dB, 65m 0 Damp, 2 Range :: 27dB, 91m 1 Damp, 0 Range :: 20dB, 45m <--- Beats 21dB GalLogi proto scans 1 Damp, 1 Range :: 20dB, 65m 2 Damp, 0 Range :: 16dB, 45m Post-Efficacy CalScout (EWAR Mods :: EWAR Stats) 0 Damp, 0 Range :: 32dB, 30m (Gêå +5dB, -15m) 0 Damp, 1 Range :: 32dB, 54m (Gêå +5dB, -11m) 0 Damp, 2 Range :: 32dB, 91m (Gêå +5dB) 1 Damp, 0 Range :: 22dB, 30m (Gêå +2dB, -15m) 1 Damp, 1 Range :: 22dB, 54m (Gêå +2dB, -11m) 2 Damp, 0 Range :: 16dB, 30m (Gêå -15m) Today, the HP-stacked CalScout is about as good as Assault Lite can get. Lots of perks, huge scans, solid HP, broken hitbox. If you think the CalScout is bad today, you won't very much like what's coming tomorrow.
gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 395	Posted - 2014.11.23 05:10:00 - [13] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I don't understand why they took away their precision. Caldari scouts gave up potential shield extenders (Main tank) which means they had to give up something to get something else. The Amarr scout isn't giving up crap other than shield extenders but who shield tanks a Amarr scout? That is a disgrace to the empress. Damage mods yeah but they aren't that good. AM scout main tank is in lows. All is good. No they didn't, the bonus was passive so if you wanted to shield tank you could still see any suit without damps that isn't a gal scout from good double digit range away. Not to mention the monster regen that the cal scout had/has. Edit: If I can fit a weapon on my medium suit it should be viable. Genius... Gallente scout, heavy, logi, and assault Eternal Can I haz ur isk?
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 13343	Posted - 2014.11.23 05:11:00 - [14] - Quote The tears of FOTM are delicious. My Gallente Assault approves of any tear extraction done here. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1114	Posted - 2014.11.23 05:13:00 - [15] - Quote Jynx'D wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: gustavo acosta wrote: The caldari scout is a great assault suit as I recall. Just tank shields, blap, cover, blap. Oh yeah strafe, and regen in between there. You don't need to use the cloak... Caldari scout is no longer meant to be used as a scout. They nefred the scout aspect and now everybody is using it brick tanked and a few still taking advantage of the OP shotgun. and fyi - if this is your preferred method of playing, then the natural consequence of better eyes is a weaker suit. You weren't meant to win many confrontations. You just want an OP suit. You either scan or you kill. You either cloak or you kill. You either cloak, scan, or kill. You're saying giving you two out of three of those would make things right for you. The only class who should QQ is the assaults - the commando class ****** them, as they should of had the dual wield light weapons and commandos should of never existed. Assaults can barely fulfill there role better then scouts - and tbh, with hit boxes, you're better off playing assault with a scout suit. And the shield tanking caladari scouts with RE's? Probably one of the most annoying things on the field. Especially ones walking around with those damn assault RR :( Scout seriously has no role what so ever. You can be EWAR but you don't get jack for doing EWAR. I don't see +15 intel kill assists popping up when I run ewar. EWAR isn't a viable way of profiting alone. Also, there is no reason why CCP took away passive scans from scouts. No good reason at least. It has just caused a up roar of brick tanked scouts, 70% of caldari scouts are now above 400 shields. Also commandos are sh*t compared to assault. My Caldari ADV assault can get more HP than a minmatar heavy. Chocolate Juice
Jynx'D Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 56	Posted - 2014.11.23 05:13:00 - [16] - Quote It's always fun to see a Caldari Scout cry, it's almost like watching the Caldari Logi cry it's not a slayer anymore, or the Rail Riflers that they aren't the most OP thing anymore, or Pythons complaining they can't butcher people faster then they can look up. Funny thing is - just a year ago everyone complained CCP must be Caldari Loyalist because the only things worth using were Caldari and the HMG. Lol
gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 395	Posted - 2014.11.23 05:15:00 - [17] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Scout seriously has no role what so ever. You can be EWAR but you don't get jack for doing EWAR. I don't see +15 intel kill assists popping up when I run ewar. EWAR isn't a viable way of profiting alone. Also, there is no reason why CCP took away passive scans from scouts. No good reason at least. It has just caused a up roar of brick tanked scouts, 70% of caldari scouts are now above 400 shields. Also commandos are sht compared to assault. My Caldari ADV assault can get more HP than a minmatar heavy. >says knowing exactly where and how your enemy is oriented is useless >3/10 bad QQ Gallente scout, heavy, logi, and assault Eternal Can I haz ur isk?*
Jynx'D Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 56	Posted - 2014.11.23 05:16:00 - [18] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Jynx'D wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: gustavo acosta wrote: The caldari scout is a great assault suit as I recall. Just tank shields, blap, cover, blap. Oh yeah strafe, and regen in between there. You don't need to use the cloak... Caldari scout is no longer meant to be used as a scout. They nefred the scout aspect and now everybody is using it brick tanked and a few still taking advantage of the OP shotgun. and fyi - if this is your preferred method of playing, then the natural consequence of better eyes is a weaker suit. You weren't meant to win many confrontations. You just want an OP suit. You either scan or you kill. You either cloak or you kill. You either cloak, scan, or kill. You're saying giving you two out of three of those would make things right for you. The only class who should QQ is the assaults - the commando class ****** them, as they should of had the dual wield light weapons and commandos should of never existed. Assaults can barely fulfill there role better then scouts - and tbh, with hit boxes, you're better off playing assault with a scout suit. And the shield tanking caladari scouts with RE's? Probably one of the most annoying things on the field. Especially ones walking around with those damn assault RR :( Scout seriously has no role what so ever. You can be EWAR but you don't get jack for doing EWAR. I don't see +15 intel kill assists popping up when I run ewar. EWAR isn't a viable way of profiting alone. Also, there is no reason why CCP took away passive scans from scouts. No good reason at least. It has just caused a up roar of brick tanked scouts, 70% of caldari scouts are now above 400 shields. Also commandos are sh*t compared to assault. My Caldari ADV assault can get more HP than a minmatar heavy. Passive scans I won't argue, as I agree, that was dumb. CCP really should give +5 at least to intel kills from people not in your squad as well when you do scan.
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1114	Posted - 2014.11.23 05:20:00 - [19] - Quote gustavo acosta wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I don't understand why they took away their precision. Caldari scouts gave up potential shield extenders (Main tank) which means they had to give up something to get something else. The Amarr scout isn't giving up crap other than shield extenders but who shield tanks a Amarr scout? That is a disgrace to the empress. Damage mods yeah but they aren't that good. AM scout main tank is in lows. All is good. No they didn't, the bonus was passive so if you wanted to shield tank you could still see any suit without damps that isn't a gal scout from good double digit range away. Not to mention the monster regen that the cal scout had/has. Edit: If I can fit a weapon on my medium suit it should be viable. Genius... The bonus passive isn't good enough, one enhanced dampeners and every scout and their mother could get under the scans. You HAD to have a precision enhancer or two to catch those scouts which means giving up shields. The passives didn't DO the job, they helped. Now there is no reason to use Precision enhancers on a Caldari scout, you need 3 precision enhancers to catch one caldari or gallante scout with one complex dampener. Also, forget using precision enhancers, the cloak destroys the purpose of range extenders and precision enhancers. One complex range extender will get you like 1-2m more range while cloaked. Edit response: No it shouldn't without sacrifices, there are specific play styles to every suit. If you want you can go ahead and use a shotgun on an assault suit but you will have fit it like a scout with dampening, a weapon that requires you to be within 10m of an enemy cannot be fitted on a suit the enemy can see from 100m away (scanners). I can put a SG on my min assault and it is viable and I get quite a few kills with it. Chocolate Juice
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1114	Posted - 2014.11.23 05:21:00 - [20] - Quote Jynx'D wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Jynx'D wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: gustavo acosta wrote: The caldari scout is a great assault suit as I recall. Just tank shields, blap, cover, blap. Oh yeah strafe, and regen in between there. You don't need to use the cloak... Caldari scout is no longer meant to be used as a scout. They nefred the scout aspect and now everybody is using it brick tanked and a few still taking advantage of the OP shotgun. and fyi - if this is your preferred method of playing, then the natural consequence of better eyes is a weaker suit. You weren't meant to win many confrontations. You just want an OP suit. You either scan or you kill. You either cloak or you kill. You either cloak, scan, or kill. You're saying giving you two out of three of those would make things right for you. The only class who should QQ is the assaults - the commando class ****** them, as they should of had the dual wield light weapons and commandos should of never existed. Assaults can barely fulfill there role better then scouts - and tbh, with hit boxes, you're better off playing assault with a scout suit. And the shield tanking caladari scouts with RE's? Probably one of the most annoying things on the field. Especially ones walking around with those damn assault RR :( Scout seriously has no role what so ever. You can be EWAR but you don't get jack for doing EWAR. I don't see +15 intel kill assists popping up when I run ewar. EWAR isn't a viable way of profiting alone. Also, there is no reason why CCP took away passive scans from scouts. No good reason at least. It has just caused a up roar of brick tanked scouts, 70% of caldari scouts are now above 400 shields. Also commandos are sh*t compared to assault. My Caldari ADV assault can get more HP than a minmatar heavy. Passive scans I won't argue, as I agree, that was dumb. CCP really should give +5 at least to intel kills from people not in your squad as well when you do scan. +5 isn't enough, in an ambush if you had scanned every person on enemy team killed- you intel assists would add up to like 250 points which is roughly 5 kills no head shots added. IT should be like 25 points. Chocolate Juice

Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2095	Posted - 2014.11.23 05:22:00 - [21] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Specced into caldari scout for precision- CCP: gets taken away and given to Gallante and Amarr Fine, at least I can scan people from far. CCP: Makes it so you cannot scan a heavy standing right behind you when cloak activated. Fine, I'll live with it, I can still defend my self when I accidentally run into some one. CCP: Add the delay to cloak so when a cloak user runs into a player he cannot defend himself. Thanks CCP- You made scouts in general blind so now they run into herds of players because they don't know where the F they are going, then you made it so that there is 1 sec delay (1sec is equivalent to 450 damage from average weapon, and 800 damage from an HMG) so now they cannot defend themselves when they accidentally run into a pile of reds. It makes perfect sense that a caldari scout (The king of scans) cannot scan a mofo heavy 3m behind him even with 2.5 million SP invested into the suit itself and another 1 million into range extenders. Request: Give us back one of our balls. You took two and now we have none. Either give us back passive scans while cloaked or remove the delay. P.S. the delay was an attempt to nerf shotgun, but it went in the other direction. CCP: Shotgun is OP, let's nerf the cloak. # CCP logic. shotgun is fine.. however when its combiend with scout and/or cloak it becomes a problem.. the MAIN problem of the sg is scouts.. and the problem with cloak is shotgun.. ps.. Mmmm Mmmm your tears.. they are nourishment to me. #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1114	Posted - 2014.11.23 05:24:00 - [22] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Specced into caldari scout for precision- CCP: gets taken away and given to Gallante and Amarr Fine, at least I can scan people from far. CCP: Makes it so you cannot scan a heavy standing right behind you when cloak activated. Fine, I'll live with it, I can still defend my self when I accidentally run into some one. CCP: Add the delay to cloak so when a cloak user runs into a player he cannot defend himself. Thanks CCP- You made scouts in general blind so now they run into herds of players because they don't know where the F they are going, then you made it so that there is 1 sec delay (1sec is equivalent to 450 damage from average weapon, and 800 damage from an HMG) so now they cannot defend themselves when they accidentally run into a pile of reds. It makes perfect sense that a caldari scout (The king of scans) cannot scan a mofo heavy 3m behind him even with 2.5 million SP invested into the suit itself and another 1 million into range extenders. Request: Give us back one of our balls. You took two and now we have none. Either give us back passive scans while cloaked or remove the delay. P.S. the delay was an attempt to nerf shotgun, but it went in the other direction. CCP: Shotgun is OP, let's nerf the cloak. # CCP logic. shotgun is fine.. however when its combiend with scout and/or cloak it becomes a problem.. the MAIN problem of the sg is scouts.. and the problem with cloak is shotgun.. ps.. Mmmm Mmmm your tears.. they are nourishment to me. You better go see a nutritionist, I done make enough tears to nourish you. BTW, malnourished is injurious to health, go eat some bacon. Chocolate Juice
gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 395	Posted - 2014.11.23 05:33:00 - [23] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: The bonus passive isn't good enough, one enhanced dampeners and every scout and their mother could get under the scans. You HAD to have a precision enhancer or two to catch those scouts which means giving up shields. The passives didn't DO the job, they helped. Now there is no reason to use Precision enhancers on a Caldari scout, you need 3 precision enhancers to catch one caldari or gallante scout with one complex dampener. Also, forget using precision enhancers, the cloak destroys the purpose of range extenders and precision enhancers. One complex range extender will get you like 1-2m more range while cloaked. Edit response: No it shouldn't without sacrifices, there are specific play styles to every suit. If you want you can go ahead and use a shotgun on an assault suit but you will have fit it like a scout with dampening, a weapon that requires you to be within 10m of an enemy cannot be fitted on a suit the enemy can see from 100m away (scanners). I can put a SG on my min assault and it is viable and I get quite a few kills with it. You literally just said E-war isn't worth a damn, and you turn around and complain that it wasn't enough to see other undampened suits. If you have issues with the cloak and your range, then don't use it. And that's complete horsepucky about how passive passive scans didn't do the job. I calculated them myself and found that without any precision enhancers the bonus gives you as low as 27db at proto while with proto base e-war the SCOUT(excluding the gal) gets 32 base profile. Just imagine the rest of the frames with even worse base stats. "Quite a few kills" does not imply any balance, I got "Quite a few kills" with the post nerf RR. I got "Quite a few kills," with the pre-buffed plasma cannon. You're also forgetting that scouts do completely fine with rifles, without having to change their fittings, I should know. So apparently it's fine that my scout does wonders with all guns, but my assault can't do the same. #justskillintothenextfotmfoo Gallente scout, heavy, logi, and assault Eternal Can I haz ur isk?
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1116	Posted - 2014.11.23 05:51:00 - [24] - Quote gustavo acosta wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: The bonus passive isn't good enough, one enhanced dampeners and every scout and their mother could get under the scans. You HAD to have a precision enhancer or two to catch those scouts which means giving up shields. The passives didn't DO the job, they helped. Now there is no reason to use Precision enhancers on a Caldari scout, you need 3 precision enhancers to catch one caldari or gallante scout with one complex dampener. Also, forget using precision enhancers, the cloak destroys the purpose of range extenders and precision enhancers. One complex range extender will get you like 1-2m more range while cloaked. Edit response: No it shouldn't without sacrifices, there are specific play styles to every suit. If you want you can go ahead and use a shotgun on an assault suit but you will have fit it like a scout with dampening, a weapon that requires you to be within 10m of an enemy cannot be fitted on a suit the enemy can see from 100m away (scanners). I can put a SG on my min assault and it is viable and I get quite a few kills with it. You literally just said E-war isn't worth a damn, and you turn around and complain that it wasn't enough to see other undampened suits. If you have issues with the cloak and your range, then don't use it. And that's complete horsepucky about how passive passive scans didn't do the job. I calculated them myself and found that without any precision enhancers the bonus gives you as low as 27db at proto. "Quite a few kills" does not imply any balance, I got "Quite a few kills" with the post nerf RR. I got "Quite a few kills," with the pre-buffed plasma cannon. You're also forgetting that scouts do completely fine with rifles, without having to change their fittings, I should know. So apparently it's fine that my scout does wonders with all guns, but my assault can't do the same. #justskillintothenextfotmfoo EWAR was killed by cloaks but the micro-argument was about passive skills. Also, quite a few kills=I did perfectly fine with it. Also, Assault can do wonders with all guns, you are just bad. You're the type of scrub the probably tries to put a SG on a suit with no damps, no speed, no ewar. You have to learn how to fit stuff to make it worth a damn. P.S. my SG heavy actually works wonders due to the fact it can tank HP ( 950 ish) and is running 6.9 m/s and hidden from all without precision enhancers except scouts. It's a throw away fit. Some weapons suit some suits better than others. You don't normally see suits other than Amarr Assault going try hard with the ScR because ScR is better on Amarr Assault than it is on the Caldari. Just like CR is better on MinAssault than it is on other suits. Stop being a scrub. Also- with your logic-you could say stop using small blasters if you can't do good with them. Even though they are UP. With your logic, you insist on not using UP stuff. Well my logic says lets Buff the UP stuff and make actually good. Cloak right now is terrible and if you are a paperthin ewar scout you would understand. Cloak seriously needs that range back. Example: repair tools are meant to repair armor normally on heavies by logis. Imagine that when repairs are on your heavy, your total HP goes to 50%. Not only is that counter productive, it is just stupid. A heavy without a ton of HP because they equipment "made" for it is being used. This is just like scouts, scouts are meant to be scouts as in scan stuff but the equipment made for scouts is counter productive of the role. Tree the example isn't very good but with a little bit of brain power you might understand. Chocolate Juice
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 415	Posted - 2014.11.23 05:56:00 - [25] - Quote Jynx'D wrote: It's always fun to see a Caldari Scout cry, it's almost like watching the Caldari Logi cry it's not a slayer anymore, or the Rail Riflers that they aren't the most OP thing anymore, or Pythons complaining they can't butcher people faster then they can look up. Funny thing is - just a year ago everyone complained CCP must be Caldari Loyalist because the only things worth using were Caldari and the HMG. Lol I just want my RR balanced again... just less spool time. You are really losing it huh? The Caldari are the only ones without a FotM. without said FotM very little care for us and fight for the Gals, which end in us being killed repeatedly by FotMs in FW. Look, I want a balanced game, you are one person who wants the Caldari gone, or act like it at least. Tell me, if everything you have speced into was all nerfed to oblivion, would you be happy that you are using stuff that can easily be compared to the starter gear of your enemy while going up against an enemy team of pure FotMs? Look, the only left that is okay for the Caldari are the CK.0 assault and scouts. Fck the rest. Gallente have several, Amarr have one or two, and min has a few. I used a RR for a long time. First it excelled everywhere as a Long range rifle, then just in Long range like intended, now only in CQC unlike any Long range rifle should do. Anyway, last year I was fine with a Gal suit and a AR, Caldari never really dominated from my view... AND I BACKED THE FCK DOWN.
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1116	Posted - 2014.11.23 05:58:00 - [26] - Quote gustavo acosta wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: The bonus passive isn't good enough, one enhanced dampeners and every scout and their mother could get under the scans. You HAD to have a precision enhancer or two to catch those scouts which means giving up shields. The passives didn't DO the job, they helped. Now there is no reason to use Precision enhancers on a Caldari scout, you need 3 precision enhancers to catch one caldari or gallante scout with one complex dampener. Also, forget using precision enhancers, the cloak destroys the purpose of range extenders and precision enhancers. One complex range extender will get you like 1-2m more range while cloaked. Edit response: No it shouldn't without sacrifices, there are specific play styles to every suit. If you want you can go ahead and use a shotgun on an assault suit but you will have fit it like a scout with dampening, a weapon that requires you to be within 10m of an enemy cannot be fitted on a suit the enemy can see from 100m away (scanners). I can put a SG on my min assault and it is viable and I get quite a few kills with it. You literally just said E-war isn't worth a damn, and you turn around and complain that it wasn't enough to see other undampened suits. If you have issues with the cloak and your range, then don't use it. And that's complete horsepucky about how passive passive scans didn't do the job. I calculated them myself and found that without any precision enhancers the bonus gives you as low as 27db at proto while with proto base e-war the SCOUT(excluding the gal) gets 32 base profile. Just imagine the rest of the frames with even worse base stats. "Quite a few kills" does not imply any balance, I got "Quite a few kills" with the post nerf RR. I got "Quite a few kills," with the pre-buffed plasma cannon. You're also forgetting that scouts do completely fine with rifles, without having to change their fittings, I should know. So apparently it's fine that my scout does wonders with all guns, but my assault can't do the same. #justskillintothenextfotmfoo 2/4 scouts can beat passive scans of AM scout even though it is suppose to be the king of precision. The passive scans are their to help, not do the job. Also you are comparing that a scout meant for scans is able to scan a scout not meant for dampening. Now compare scout meant for dampening with scouts meant for precision. Dampening is much more powerful than precision. The modules are stronger and you start at 35 DB isntead of 40. Also, precison enhancers on scouts like minmatar, caldari are probably not worth the extra HP. One complex precision enhancer on your cal/min scout doesn't get you anywhere. Then again one on an Amarr scout does. The passives help in scanning not DO it. Chocolate Juice
Luna McDuffing COALICION LATINA Top Men. 110	Posted - 2014.11.23 06:07:00 - [27] - Quote Vitantur Nothus wrote: If you think the CalScout is bad today, you won't very much like what's coming tomorrow. Why? what is coming tomorrow?
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1116	Posted - 2014.11.23 06:10:00 - [28] - Quote Luna McDuffing wrote: Vitantur Nothus wrote: If you think the CalScout is bad today, you won't very much like what's coming tomorrow. Why? what is coming tomorrow? Nerfs on top of Nerfs because Assaults and non-scouts in general think scouts are still OP after they neutered us and now they are taking away our heart. Well, will you look at the time, my Minmitar Assault and Amarr heavy await. Chocolate Juice
gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 395	Posted - 2014.11.23 06:11:00 - [29] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: EWAR was killed by cloaks but the micro-argument was about passive skills. Also, quite a few kills=I did perfectly fine with it. Also, Assault can do wonders with all guns, you are just bad. You're the type of scrub the probably tries to put a SG on a suit with no damps, no speed, no ewar. You have to learn how to fit stuff to make it worth a damn. P.S. my SG heavy actually works wonders due to the fact it can tank HP ( 950 ish) and is running 6.9 m/s and hidden from all without precision enhancers except scouts. It's a throw away fit. Some weapons suit some suits better than others. You don't normally see suits other than Amarr Assault going try hard with the ScR because ScR is better on Amarr Assault than it is on the Caldari. Just like CR is better on MinAssault than it is on other suits. Stop being a scrub. Also- with your logic-you could say stop using small blasters if you can't do good with them. Even though they are UP. With your logic, you insist on not using UP stuff. Well my logic says lets Buff the UP stuff and make actually good. Cloak right now is terrible and if you are a paperthin ewar scout you would understand. Cloak seriously needs that range back. Example: repair tools are mean to repair armor normally logi heavies. Imagine that when repairs are on your heavy, your total HP goes to 50%. Not only is that counter productive, it is just stupid. A heavy without a ton of HP because they equipment "made" for it is being used. This is just like scouts, scouts are mean to be scouts as in scan stuff but the equipment made for scouts is counter productive of the role. Tree the example isn't very good but with a little bit of brain power you might understand. Like I said if you can't micromanage your cloak, then don't use it. If you're gonna use something that's apparently UP then instead of complaining how about you come up with something constructive suggestions and give concrete reasons why you think things should change. Rather than comparing a suit's capabilities to male genitalia, and saying "give me back my one of my testes i disrv it hurka durka." The reason I say the S.G. is not Op is because it doesn't work on medium suits or heavy suits on a competitive level. As long as the enemy has half a brain, which is a rarity in pubs, it'll be near impossible to run a shotgun in a frontal assault manner, or a point defense manner(i.e. their intended roles.) Of course a heavy/med frame with shotgun will kill things, but will they hold a candle to properly fit suits in their proper role, against competent players? I think not. As you've said they're only good for throwaway fits. I can use a medium frame with a shotgun, in fact I used to excel at it when the hit deteciton was awful, but that was back when all I used was throwaway starter-fits. I wouldn't mind if the cloak delay was lowered, or the range was returned, if there was good reason for it. You don't know me, you don't know what kind of scrub I am, but it's clear what kind of scrub you are. And I refuse to even attempt to read the abortion of an example you just plastered on the forums. Gallente scout, heavy, logi, and assault Eternal Can I haz ur isk?
Lloyd Orfay Kinsho Swords Caldari State 232	Posted - 2014.11.23 06:13:00 - [30] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Specced into caldari scout for precision- CCP: gets taken away and given to Gallante and Amarr Fine, at least I can scan people from far. CCP: Makes it so you cannot scan a heavy standing right behind you when cloak activated. Fine, I'll live with it, I can still defend my self when I accidentally run into some one. CCP: Add the delay to cloak so when a cloak user runs into a player he cannot defend himself. Thanks CCP- You made scouts in general blind so now they run into herds of players because they don't know where the F they are going, then you made it so that there is 1 sec delay (1sec is equivalent to 450 damage from average weapon, and 800 damage from an HMG) so now they cannot defend themselves when they accidentally run into a pile of reds. It makes perfect sense that a caldari scout (The king of scans) cannot scan a mofo heavy 3m behind him even with 2.5 million SP invested into the suit itself and another 1 million into range extenders. Request: Give us back one of our balls. You took two and now we have none. Either give us back passive scans while cloaked or remove the delay. P.S. the delay was an attempt to nerf shotgun, but it went in the other direction. CCP: Shotgun is OP, let's nerf the cloak. # CCP logic. Shotgun and scouts don't belong as they are, so either way the users of both can't complain(Unless if they didn't spec into them for selfish and exploitative reasons like 99% of people who use them do.) Months of AV and scout abuse, still nothing being done about it.

Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1116	Posted - 2014.11.23 06:14:00 - [31] - Quote gustavo acosta wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: EWAR was killed by cloaks but the micro-argument was about passive skills. Also, quite a few kills=I did perfectly fine with it. Also, Assault can do wonders with all guns, you are just bad. You're the type of scrub the probably tries to put a SG on a suit with no damps, no speed, no ewar. You have to learn how to fit stuff to make it worth a damn. P.S. my SG heavy actually works wonders due to the fact it can tank HP ( 950 ish) and is running 6.9 m/s and hidden from all without precision enhancers except scouts. It's a throw away fit. Some weapons suit some suits better than others. You don't normally see suits other than Amarr Assault going try hard with the ScR because ScR is better on Amarr Assault than it is on the Caldari. Just like CR is better on MinAssault than it is on other suits. Stop being a scrub. Also- with your logic-you could say stop using small blasters if you can't do good with them. Even though they are UP. With your logic, you insist on not using UP stuff. Well my logic says lets Buff the UP stuff and make actually good. Cloak right now is terrible and if you are a paperthin ewar scout you would understand. Cloak seriously needs that range back. Example: repair tools are mean to repair armor normally logi heavies. Imagine that when repairs are on your heavy, your total HP goes to 50%. Not only is that counter productive, it is just stupid. A heavy without a ton of HP because they equipment "made" for it is being used. This is just like scouts, scouts are mean to be scouts as in scan stuff but the equipment made for scouts is counter productive of the role. Tree the example isn't very good but with a little bit of brain power you might understand. Like I said if you can't micromanage your cloak, then don't use it. If you're gonna use something that's apparently UP then instead of complaining how about you come up with something constructive suggestions and give concrete reasons why you think things should change. Rather than comparing a suit's capabilities to male genitalia, and saying "give me back my one of my testes i disrv it hurka durka." The reason I say the S.G. is not Op is because it doesn't work on medium suits or heavy suits on a competitive level. As long as the enemy has half a brain, which is a rarity in pubs, it'll be near impossible to run a shotgun in a frontal assault manner, or a point defense manner(i.e. their intended roles.) Of course a heavy/med frame with shotgun will kill things, but will they hold a candle to properly fit suits in their proper role, against competent players? I think not. As you've said they're only good for throwaway fits. I can use a medium frame with a shotgun, in fact I used to excel at it when the hit deteciton was awful, but that was back when all I used was throwaway starter-fits. I wouldn't mind if the cloak delay was lowered, or the range was returned, if there was good reason for it. You don't know me, you don't know what kind of scrub I am, but it's clear what kind of scrub you are. And I refuse to even attempt to read the abortion of an example you just plastered on the forums. Well, you never had a good reason to take away they range, I can live with the delay. Give me back one and I'll be happy, preferably the range because they is what a scout is for. There is no point in using EWAR mods when range with a cloak is like 2. Chocolate Juice
gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 395	Posted - 2014.11.23 06:26:00 - [32] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: 2/4 scouts can beat passive scans of AM scout even though it is suppose to be the king of precision. The passive scans are their to help, not do the job. Also you are comparing that a scout meant for scans is able to scan a scout not meant for dampening. Now compare scout meant for dampening with scouts meant for precision. Dampening is much more powerful than precision. The modules are stronger and you start at 35 DB isntead of 40. Also, precison enhancers on scouts like minmatar, caldari are probably not worth the extra HP. One complex precision enhancer on your cal/min scout doesn't get you anywhere. Then again one on an Amarr scout does. The passives help in scanning not DO it. Edit: without and bonuses your normal non AM scout precision is 36. just like a normal non caldari/gal scout DB is 32. Dampening wins. Now a AM scout precision is at 27 DB while gal/cal scout DB is at 26.7 which means he is under the AM scout still, no modules (AM scout needs a precision enhancer to be able to scan gal/cal scout while cal/gal scout need nothing) . Now with one complex damp the cal/gal scout is now at 20DB and one complex precision on AM scout is 21.6 DB and AM scout still needs one more module to scan gal/cal scout. This over all means, the Dampener to scan ratio for cal/gal scout is 1:2, for every one dampener, the opponent needs two precisions to pick him up. Get good, come back again. E-war values are rounded up genius. But you are correct in saying that the gal/cal scouts beat the amarr in base stats. In reality, tactically speaking it is better to know where almost all your enemies than to be invisible. Why? Because if I can see the entire enemy team I have an easier time looking for and dispatching the enemy. If the gal/cal scout could not get under the passive scans of the amarr then the amarr scout would be OP because it would have no counter, whereas a gal/cal scout could easily be dispatched by simply keeping an eye out for them. Other than those 2 exceptions, every other suit has to sacrifice a considerable amount of slots outside of their intended role, in order to even try countering an amarr scout, and I'm glad it's not a cal scout because the number of high slots would make it impossible for every other suit(excluding) in the game to avoid the passive scans. Gallente scout, heavy, logi, and assault Eternal Can I haz ur isk?
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1116	Posted - 2014.11.23 06:32:00 - [33] - Quote gustavo acosta wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: 2/4 scouts can beat passive scans of AM scout even though it is suppose to be the king of precision. The passive scans are their to help, not do the job. Also you are comparing that a scout meant for scans is able to scan a scout not meant for dampening. Now compare scout meant for dampening with scouts meant for precision. Dampening is much more powerful than precision. The modules are stronger and you start at 35 DB isntead of 40. Also, precison enhancers on scouts like minmatar, caldari are probably not worth the extra HP. One complex precision enhancer on your cal/min scout doesn't get you anywhere. Then again one on an Amarr scout does. The passives help in scanning not DO it. Edit: without and bonuses your normal non AM scout precision is 36. just like a normal non caldari/gal scout DB is 32. Dampening wins. Now a AM scout precision is at 27 DB while gal/cal scout DB is at 26.7 which means he is under the AM scout still, no modules (AM scout needs a precision enhancer to be able to scan gal/cal scout while cal/gal scout need nothing) . Now with one complex damp the cal/gal scout is now at 20DB and one complex precision on AM scout is 21.6 DB and AM scout still needs one more module to scan gal/cal scout. This over all means, the Dampener to scan ratio for cal/gal scout is 1:2, for every one dampener, the opponent needs two precisions to pick him up. Get good, come back again. E-war values are rounded up genius. But you are correct in saying that the gal/cal scouts beat the amarr in base stats. In reality, tactically speaking it is better to know where almost all your enemies than to be invisible. Why? Because if I can see the entire enemy team I have an easier time looking for and dispatching the enemy. If the gal/cal scout could not get under the passive scans of the amarr then the amarr scout would be OP because it would have no counter, whereas a gal/cal scout could easily be dispatched by simply keeping an eye out for them. Other than those 2 exceptions, every other suit has to sacrifice a considerable amount of slots outside of their intended role, in order to even try countering an amarr scout, and I'm glad it's not a cal scout because the number of high slots would make it impossible for every other suit(excluding) in the game to avoid the passive scans. true, but I loved seeing 210-300 shield caldari scouts that burned infront of ScP instead now we see 453 shield cal scouts. Am scout hasn't changed much except that it literally makes no sacrifice to get that precision so low. Gal scout makes sacrifice to get damps. It's the problem with Armor tanking suits. They don't have a variety of mods for highs and can use it on what ever they please. Am scout can still have a lot of armor (well over 500) and 18 reps per sec at the price of dampening but who needs that when you have super scans. Chocolate Juice
Jynx'D Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 59	Posted - 2014.11.23 06:39:00 - [34] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Jynx'D wrote: It's always fun to see a Caldari Scout cry, it's almost like watching the Caldari Logi cry it's not a slayer anymore, or the Rail Riflers that they aren't the most OP thing anymore, or Pythons complaining they can't butcher people faster then they can look up. Funny thing is - just a year ago everyone complained CCP must be Caldari Loyalist because the only things worth using were Caldari and the HMG. Lol I just want my RR balanced again... just less spool time. You are really losing it huh? The Caldari are the only ones without a FotM. without said FotM very little care for us and fight for the Gals, which end in us being killed repeatedly by FotMs in FW. Look, I want a balanced game, you are one person who wants the Caldari gone, or act like it at least. Tell me, if everything you have speced into was all nerfed to oblivion, would you be happy that you are using stuff that can easily be compared to the starter gear of your enemy while going up against an enemy team of pure FotMs? Look, the only left that is okay for the Caldari are the CK.0 assault and scouts. F*ck the rest. Gallente have several, Amarr have one or two, and min has a few. I used a RR for a long time. First it excelled everywhere as a Long range rifle, then just in Long range like intended, now only in CQC unlike any Long range rifle should do. Anyway, last year I was fine with a Gal suit and a AR, Caldari never really dominated from my view... Uhm, can you stop talking as if I said anything against you or Caldari I enjoy the tears of all the races but Amarr equally. It's a fact Caldari have had a TON of FOTM's in the past few years - hell, the closed beta was nothing but people spamming shield suits, guess which suit that would be today? I don't hate caldari - I hate ignorant General Discussion peasants. And as for being 'nerfed into oblivion' Are you new to Dust 514? We've all been nerfed into oblivion at one point or another. And RR are arguably more balanced now then they ever have been - you're a mid range to long range weapon that dominates even lasers, stop getting close lol Sept that assault RR - I CQC with that beast all the time <3
Pvt Numnutz Prophets of the Velocirapture 1994	Posted - 2014.11.23 10:03:00 - [35] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: CCP: Add the delay to cloak so when a cloak user runs into a player he cannot defend himself. Yeah this is outrageous! When a scout encounters an assault or heavy suit it should have a good chance of winning against them! Instead of running away like an actual scout would! Master Skyshark rider Kaalaka dakka tamer
Mejt0 Kinsho Swords Caldari State 520	Posted - 2014.11.23 11:24:00 - [36] - Quote Caldari scout is still good. But those 450shields are down after few bursts of any gun. Especialy ScR/AR (often used). Most used scout is still gallente cough scum cough PS. If they will add movement pentaly for shield extenders, then goodbye caldari. My amarr buddy will replace you for a while. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2268	Posted - 2014.11.23 11:52:00 - [37] - Quote Kind of glad i never specced into Cal scout. Cause all i hear is complaints about them. If you dont like it dont run it. So is it OP or UP? PSN Sil4ntChaozz *Specialist Low SP Player [SMG CR SR NK SCP/Mk.0&Gk.0]* Not well-known not unknown
Mejt0 Twoja Stara Company 520	Posted - 2014.11.23 14:05:00 - [38] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Kind of glad i never specced into Cal scout. Cause all i hear is complaints about them. If you dont like it dont run it. So is it OP or UP? Same as rest. IMO proto caldari scout (on female) looks nice. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
Cavani1EE7 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 554	Posted - 2014.11.23 14:43:00 - [39] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Specced into caldari scout for precision- CCP: gets taken away and given to Gallante and Amarr Fine, at least I can scan people from far. CCP: Makes it so you cannot scan a heavy standing right behind you when cloak activated. Fine, I'll live with it, I can still defend my self when I accidentally run into some one. CCP: Add the delay to cloak so when a cloak user runs into a player he cannot defend himself. Thanks CCP- You made scouts in general blind so now they run into herds of players because they don't know where the F they are going, then you made it so that there is 1 sec delay (1sec is equivalent to 450 damage from average weapon, and 800 damage from an HMG) so now they cannot defend themselves when they accidentally run into a pile of reds. It makes perfect sense that a caldari scout (The king of scans) cannot scan a mofo heavy 3m behind him even with 2.5 million SP invested into the suit itself and another 1 million into range extenders. Request: Give us back one of our balls. You took two and now we have none. Either give us back passive scans while cloaked or remove the delay. P.S. the delay was an attempt to nerf shotgun, but it went in the other direction. CCP: Shotgun is OP, let's nerf the cloak. # CCP logic. Yuck scans, shotgun, cloack and whatnot. Just shield tank it, put a adv/comp kin cat, a comp. dampener and NKs with an AR/CR. That's the best way you could use a cal scout, aside of double tanking it. Take a bow
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1119	Posted - 2014.11.23 14:44:00 - [40] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Kind of glad i never specced into Cal scout. Cause all i hear is complaints about them. If you dont like it dont run it. So is it OP or UP? It needs hit box fixed but it isn't OP or UP at all. It is a good scout except the cloak is UP. There was no reason for CCP to take passives away while cloaked. Not only is that counter productive from the scout role but it almost completely destroyed the purpose of precision enhancers and range amps. Caldari scout bonus is just sh*t now. 50% more range at level 5 down the drain when you cloak up. Ever since this terrible nerf hit I went ahead and tanked all my Caldari scouts ti 453 shields. I use to run 308 shield scouts when precision enhancers were worth it. I also removed range amp and replaced it with complex ferroscales. Chocolate Juice

Her Chosen Grade No.2 65	Posted - 2014.11.23 16:16:00 - [41] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Lol shared passive scans. Work with one other scout in the squad and it's EZ mode 514 all over again. You mean to say building a proper squad and using teamwork is easy mode? Funny, I thought that's how the game was supposed to be played. Easy mode is Scouts can't be detected by Medium and Heavy Frames at all. Of course you'd know what easy mode is, you spec'd Caldari Scout and more recently Amarr for easy-mode. Why are you CPM again besides having your corp vote you in?
Cody Sietz Random Gunz RISE of LEGION 4128	Posted - 2014.11.23 16:19:00 - [42] - Quote At least the your scout didn't lose his reps and damps only to be built into every other scoot. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Duke Noobiam The-Devil's-Rejects 265	Posted - 2014.11.23 16:30:00 - [43] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Specced into caldari scout for precision- CCP: gets taken away and given to Gallante and Amarr Fine, at least I can scan people from far. CCP: Makes it so you cannot scan a heavy standing right behind you when cloak activated. Fine, I'll live with it, I can still defend my self when I accidentally run into some one. CCP: Add the delay to cloak so when a cloak user runs into a player he cannot defend himself. Thanks CCP- You made scouts in general blind so now they run into herds of players because they don't know where the F they are going, then you made it so that there is 1 sec delay (1sec is equivalent to 450 damage from average weapon, and 800 damage from an HMG) so now they cannot defend themselves when they accidentally run into a pile of reds. It makes perfect sense that a caldari scout (The king of scans) cannot scan a mofo heavy 3m behind him even with 2.5 million SP invested into the suit itself and another 1 million into range extenders. Request: Give us back one of our balls. You took two and now we have none. Either give us back passive scans while cloaked or remove the delay. P.S. the delay was an attempt to nerf shotgun, but it went in the other direction. CCP: Shotgun is OP, let's nerf the cloak. # CCP logic. You're a scrub, you need to work on your situational awareness. BPO dropsuits owned: Sever M-1 logi, Quafe M-1 assault, Quafe M-1 scout, Raven C-1 assault, Dragonfly G-1 scout
Henrietta Unknown Kirjuun Heiian 521	Posted - 2014.11.23 17:42:00 - [44] - Quote Duke Noobiam wrote: You're a scrub, you need to work on your situational awareness. So you've never been stabbed or shotgunned before from behind or beside? Give the Magsex some love.


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