Since Arirana is still around.... I am not going to bother helping you. nothing will be done about it.


Also that sounds like lag.

Since Arirana is still around.... I am not going to bother helping you. nothing will be done about it.


Also that sounds like lag.

If anyone has a free and easy way to post an image somewhere online so that I can give a link (without using personal info) PLEASE DO SO and I will immediately give a link with images to the **** that I'm talking about.

So my corp had a pc district. Had being the correct word. Now they've been taken by a new corp that I've never even heard of before with players that I've never played against. 2 successive matches and our team agreed unanimously that it wasn't worth even showing up for the 3rd match. Now a friendly corp of ours has just come out of another match with the exact same team and corp. This time, we didn't even feel the need to complete the first ******* match! AV was useless against their ADS and I mean USELESS! ZERO DAMAGE REGISTERED! Their HMGs were able to shoot through not only cover, but also through different levels of the ground and through walls. Shotguns didn't even need to look at you to shoot and kill you with one hit and their cloaks lasted forever!

A buddy of mine got killed by a Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle and the kill stats on the player showed that he had done OVER 5000 damage at a range GREATER than 300 meters away. WTF IS THAT!?

That's all you can do is ask WTF!? It's not even a matter of lag, it's just straight up cheating.

If anyone has a free and easy way to post an image somewhere online so that I can give a link (without using personal info) PLEASE DO SO and I will immediately give a link with images to the **** that I'm talking about.

So my corp had a pc district. Had being the correct word. Now they've been taken by a new corp that I've never even heard of before with players that I've never played against. 2 successive matches and our team agreed unanimously that it wasn't worth even showing up for the 3rd match. Now a friendly corp of ours has just come out of another match with the exact same team and corp. This time, we didn't even feel the need to complete the first ******* match! AV was useless against their ADS and I mean USELESS! ZERO DAMAGE REGISTERED! Their HMGs were able to shoot through not only cover, but also through different levels of the ground and through walls. Shotguns didn't even need to look at you to shoot and kill you with one hit and their cloaks lasted forever!

A buddy of mine got killed by a Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle and the kill stats on the player showed that he had done OVER 5000 damage at a range GREATER than 300 meters away. WTF IS THAT!?

That's all you can do is ask WTF!? It's not even a matter of lag, it's just straight up cheating.

I did a check - Kappa514 is the corp your accusing of cheating, right?

Look at the name - it's obviously an asian corp. You should fight Nyain San back in the day - I swear to god the lag was so bad that w/e location you saw your enemy wasn't where he actually was being registered by the system.

I would blue shield them all day while they insta slaughtered me, lol.

I did a check - Kappa514 is the corp your accusing of cheating, right?

Look at the name - it's obviously an asian corp. You should fight Nyain San back in the day - I swear to god the lag was so bad that w/e location you saw your enemy wasn't where he actually was being registered by the system.

I would blue shield them all day while they insta slaughtered me, lol.

Don't want help. I recognize that there is nothing that can be done... OTHER than getting CCP to check out these players and possibly start BANNING or Suspending accounts. I could potentially agree with you that maybe it was indeed lag, however, lag does not give wild numbers on the kill pages (not sure what to call it when you see who killed you with what) When Assault CRs give damage readouts of 5556 against scouts something is messed up. When scouts walk through assault mass driver shots without taking any damage its not lag. When ADS get hit by forges, Plasma cannons and even swarms, and even get battered around in the air from the impacts but take no damage once again its not lag.

I want to post images, that way, if ccp has something in place the players can be monitored and checked for hacking/cheating. I've played on every server that CCP has ever put out and I've never come across these players. Maybe that's just because there are a lot of players out there and I CANNOT meet them all, or maybe its just that these players, who showed up in full proto gear and taking little to no damage, are in fact cheating their way through Dust 514.

Or maybe myself and about 30 different players are just butt hurt. You never know right?

Don't want help. I recognize that there is nothing that can be done... OTHER than getting CCP to check out these players and possibly start BANNING or Suspending accounts. I could potentially agree with you that maybe it was indeed lag, however, lag does not give wild numbers on the kill pages (not sure what to call it when you see who killed you with what) When Assault CRs give damage readouts of 5556 against scouts something is messed up. When scouts walk through assault mass driver shots without taking any damage its not lag. When ADS get hit by forges, Plasma cannons and even swarms, and even get battered around in the air from the impacts but take no damage once again its not lag.

I want to post images, that way, if ccp has something in place the players can be monitored and checked for hacking/cheating. I've played on every server that CCP has ever put out and I've never come across these players. Maybe that's just because there are a lot of players out there and I CANNOT meet them all, or maybe its just that these players, who showed up in full proto gear and taking little to no damage, are in fact cheating their way through Dust 514.

Or maybe myself and about 30 different players are just butt hurt. You never know right?

just use IMGUR

cool thanks. Hopefully this is the right link to use.

http://i.imgur.com/6qPq3ip.jpg

Since Arirana is still around.... I am not going to bother helping you. nothing will be done about it.


Also that sounds like lag.

Can confirm, am said cheater.
Took 7 months off until I found a way to bypass the melee exploit fix, fear my elbow once again!

Can confirm, am said cheater.
Took 7 months off until I found a way to bypass the melee exploit fix, fear my elbow once again!

Can confirm, am said cheater.
Took 7 months off until I found a way to bypass the melee exploit fix, fear my elbow once again!

Can confirm, am said cheater.
Took 7 months off until I found a way to bypass the melee exploit fix, fear my elbow once again!

cool thanks. Hopefully this is the right link to use.

http://i.imgur.com/6qPq3ip.jpg

FALCON PUNCH!

naaaah maaaaan. He didn't just one shot punch entire squads. He did this. to entire squads, lol.

that sounds like lag switches, disruping the inflow of data while keeping outflow 100% its a normal thing for console potato kiddies to do

Huh, lookit that.

Only thing I can think of that isn't nefarious is that it was a warbarge strike that was registered as a CR, I've had it happen before. The other day I knocked an ADS outta the sky by a "militia swarm launcher" with a DAU-12 AFG in my hands.

Lag-switching requires the cheater to have game-state authority (to be the physical host) in order to work. Otherwise using one is detrimental to the switcher.

The only (purely hypothetical) way to benefit from artificial lag would be to game the serverside lag compensation in a way to make it somehow consistently decide in ways you expect and/or in your favour. This would require a serious flaw in the lag compensation system to be present, discovered and kept secret by a rather large group of players for a very long time which, though possible, is rather unlikely.

It's more likely they've either learned to operate in high ping scenarios (lead shots despite weapons being hitscan), where in closer proximity to the authoritative battle server (the matches being hosted on the asian server when you're connecting from US/EU), thus having lower ping, or both depending on the situation.

Protip: You can guesstimate your current latency by measuring the time delay between firing a gun and loosing a bullet since the former is instant while the latter requires server confirmation to update. This way you can at least tell when your client-side hit detection is going to be unrealiable (hipfire dat kitten!) and its better to lead shots even though your weapon is supposed to hit instantly.

Case in point: King Thunderbold (use html5, play at .25 speed) pings at 200-400ms in every single video I've watched. Note also how his ammo count keeps dropping in a very inconsistent manner despite him spraying the HMG full on. This is indicative of serious packet loss.

Unsurprisingly, he's been complaining about whacky hit detection on multiple occasions when the culprit is likely to sit between him and the battleserver.

This isn't going to magically fix horrible lag (check your router, traceroute to the battleservers to check for irregularities with your ISP) but it should at least help dealing with such scenarios if only by telling you when you're going to be at a clear disadvantage from the get go.