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BrotherofHavok PIanet Express Smart Deploy 100	Posted - 2014.11.23 01:33:00 - [1] - Quote If anyone has a free and easy way to post an image somewhere online so that I can give a link (without using personal info) PLEASE DO SO and I will immediately give a link with images to the ** that I'm talking about. So my corp had a pc district. Had being the correct word. Now they've been taken by a new corp that I've never even heard of before with players that I've never played against. 2 successive matches and our team agreed unanimously that it wasn't worth even showing up for the 3rd match. Now a friendly corp of ours has just come out of another match with the exact same team and corp. This time, we didn't even feel the need to complete the first ***** match! AV was useless against their ADS and I mean USELESS! ZERO DAMAGE REGISTERED! Their HMGs were able to shoot through not only cover, but also through different levels of the ground and through walls. Shotguns didn't even need to look at you to shoot and kill you with one hit and their cloaks lasted forever! A buddy of mine got killed by a Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle and the kill stats on the player showed that he had done OVER 5000 damage at a range GREATER than 300 meters away. WTF IS THAT!? That's all you can do is ask WTF!? It's not even a matter of lag, it's just straight up cheating. Sincerely, Your Multi-purpose Everything User
Immortal John Ripper 25687	Posted - 2014.11.23 01:34:00 - [2] - Quote Since Arirana is still around.... I am not going to bother helping you. nothing will be done about it. Also that sounds like lag. Delete Minmatar from the game.
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2603	Posted - 2014.11.23 01:34:00 - [3] - Quote Pics (better yet, video) or it didn't happen. Dust is there! I was real! Dear diary, Rattati senpai noticed me today~
General John Ripper 25695	Posted - 2014.11.23 01:34:00 - [4] - Quote Since Arirana is still around.... I am not going to bother helping you. nothing will be done about it. Also that sounds like lag. Delete Minmatar from the game.
G Felix 213	Posted - 2014.11.23 01:41:00 - [5] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: Since Arirana is still around.... I am not going to bother helping you. nothing will be done about it. Also that sounds like lag. Yup, this sounds like the absolutely epic lag that plagues so many PC matches. HMG's and other weapons shooting through walls is a problem in pubs and FW as well on occasion. Dust can be frustrating. (Gò»°Gûí°)Gò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+)
BrotherofHavok PIanet Express Smart Deploy 100	Posted - 2014.11.23 01:42:00 - [6] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: Since Arirana is still around.... I am not going to bother helping you. nothing will be done about it. Also that sounds like lag. Don't want help. I recognize that there is nothing that can be done... OTHER than getting CCP to check out these players and possibly start BANNING or Suspending accounts. I could potentially agree with you that maybe it was indeed lag, however, lag does not give wild numbers on the kill pages (not sure what to call it when you see who killed you with what) When Assault CRs give damage readouts of 5556 against scouts something is messed up. When scouts walk through assault mass driver shots without taking any damage its not lag. When ADS get hit by forges, Plasma cannons and even swarms, and even get battered around in the air from the impacts but take no damage once again its not lag. I want to post images, that way, if ccp has something in place the players can be monitored and checked for hacking/cheating. I've played on every server that CCP has ever put out and I've never come across these players. Maybe that's just because there are a lot of players out there and I CANNOT meet them all, or maybe its just that these players, who showed up in full proto gear and taking little to no damage, are in fact cheating their way through Dust 514. Or maybe myself and about 30 different players are just butt hurt. You never know right? Sincerely, Your Multi-purpose Everything User
Jynx'D Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 47	Posted - 2014.11.23 01:44:00 - [7] - Quote BrotherofHavok wrote: If anyone has a free and easy way to post an image somewhere online so that I can give a link (without using personal info) PLEASE DO SO and I will immediately give a link with images to the ** that I'm talking about. So my corp had a pc district. Had being the correct word. Now they've been taken by a new corp that I've never even heard of before with players that I've never played against. 2 successive matches and our team agreed unanimously that it wasn't worth even showing up for the 3rd match. Now a friendly corp of ours has just come out of another match with the exact same team and corp. This time, we didn't even feel the need to complete the first ***** match! AV was useless against their ADS and I mean USELESS! ZERO DAMAGE REGISTERED! Their HMGs were able to shoot through not only cover, but also through different levels of the ground and through walls. Shotguns didn't even need to look at you to shoot and kill you with one hit and their cloaks lasted forever! A buddy of mine got killed by a Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle and the kill stats on the player showed that he had done OVER 5000 damage at a range GREATER than 300 meters away. WTF IS THAT!? That's all you can do is ask WTF!? It's not even a matter of lag, it's just straight up cheating. I did a check - Kappa514 is the corp your accusing of cheating, right? Look at the name - it's obviously an asian corp. You should fight Nyain San back in the day - I swear to god the lag was so bad that w/e location you saw your enemy wasn't where he actually was being registered by the system. I would blue shield them all day while they insta slaughtered me, lol.
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2093	Posted - 2014.11.23 01:48:00 - [8] - Quote BrotherofHavok wrote: If anyone has a free and easy way to post an image somewhere online so that I can give a link (without using personal info) PLEASE DO SO and I will immediately give a link with images to the ** that I'm talking about. So my corp had a pc district. Had being the correct word. Now they've been taken by a new corp that I've never even heard of before with players that I've never played against. 2 successive matches and our team agreed unanimously that it wasn't worth even showing up for the 3rd match. Now a friendly corp of ours has just come out of another match with the exact same team and corp. This time, we didn't even feel the need to complete the first *** match! AV was useless against their ADS and I mean USELESS! ZERO DAMAGE REGISTERED! Their HMGs were able to shoot through not only cover, but also through different levels of the ground and through walls. Shotguns didn't even need to look at you to shoot and kill you with one hit and their cloaks lasted forever! A buddy of mine got killed by a Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle and the kill stats on the player showed that he had done OVER 5000 damage at a range GREATER than 300 meters away. WTF IS THAT!? That's all you can do is ask WTF!? It's not even a matter of lag, it's just straight up cheating. just use IMGUR #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]**
BrotherofHavok PIanet Express Smart Deploy 100	Posted - 2014.11.23 01:49:00 - [9] - Quote Jynx'D wrote: I did a check - Kappa514 is the corp your accusing of cheating, right? Look at the name - it's obviously an asian corp. You should fight Nyain San back in the day - I swear to god the lag was so bad that w/e location you saw your enemy wasn't where he actually was being registered by the system. I would blue shield them all day while they insta slaughtered me, lol. I did fight Nyain San back in the day and continue to do so. Even now there are "players" that "lag" the game. And once again I'm not discounting the possible lag, what I want is for these players to be checked or even possibly watched. If they've existed for a couple of weeks but are walking around in full proto gear than something is probably fishy. The past 3 weeks with the 750k might have helped I don't know, but these players... in some cases... are worse than the lag that we suffered against Nyain san during the early days of PC districts. Sincerely, Your Multi-purpose Everything User
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2093	Posted - 2014.11.23 01:49:00 - [10] - Quote Jynx'D wrote: BrotherofHavok wrote: If anyone has a free and easy way to post an image somewhere online so that I can give a link (without using personal info) PLEASE DO SO and I will immediately give a link with images to the ** that I'm talking about. So my corp had a pc district. Had being the correct word. Now they've been taken by a new corp that I've never even heard of before with players that I've never played against. 2 successive matches and our team agreed unanimously that it wasn't worth even showing up for the 3rd match. Now a friendly corp of ours has just come out of another match with the exact same team and corp. This time, we didn't even feel the need to complete the first *** match! AV was useless against their ADS and I mean USELESS! ZERO DAMAGE REGISTERED! Their HMGs were able to shoot through not only cover, but also through different levels of the ground and through walls. Shotguns didn't even need to look at you to shoot and kill you with one hit and their cloaks lasted forever! A buddy of mine got killed by a Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle and the kill stats on the player showed that he had done OVER 5000 damage at a range GREATER than 300 meters away. WTF IS THAT!? That's all you can do is ask WTF!? It's not even a matter of lag, it's just straight up cheating. I did a check - Kappa514 is the corp your accusing of cheating, right? Look at the name - it's obviously an asian corp. You should fight Nyain San back in the day - I swear to god the lag was so bad that w/e location you saw your enemy wasn't where he actually was being registered by the system. I would blue shield them all day while they insta slaughtered me, lol. that sounds like lag switches, disruping the inflow of data while keeping outflow 100% its a normal thing for console potato kiddies to do #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]**

Immortal John Ripper 25690	Posted - 2014.11.23 01:50:00 - [11] - Quote BrotherofHavok wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: Since Arirana is still around.... I am not going to bother helping you. nothing will be done about it. Also that sounds like lag. Don't want help. I recognize that there is nothing that can be done... OTHER than getting CCP to check out these players and possibly start BANNING or Suspending accounts. I could potentially agree with you that maybe it was indeed lag, however, lag does not give wild numbers on the kill pages (not sure what to call it when you see who killed you with what) When Assault CRs give damage readouts of 5556 against scouts something is messed up. When scouts walk through assault mass driver shots without taking any damage its not lag. When ADS get hit by forges, Plasma cannons and even swarms, and even get battered around in the air from the impacts but take no damage once again its not lag. I want to post images, that way, if ccp has something in place the players can be monitored and checked for hacking/cheating. I've played on every server that CCP has ever put out and I've never come across these players. Maybe that's just because there are a lot of players out there and I CANNOT meet them all, or maybe its just that these players, who showed up in full proto gear and taking little to no damage, are in fact cheating their way through Dust 514. Or maybe myself and about 30 different players are just butt hurt. You never know right? I have already tried to help. I have already tried to get CCP to ban cheaters from PC. Not just myself but alot of pc vets have tried. Nothing was done. You can try but imo it is a waste of time. I give up caring when the developers gave up caring. That is all there is too it. If you really want to bring this to CCP's attention then send in a support ticket here. http://dust514.com/community/support/ Include the name of the corp you fought and the date and time the battles took place. also www.imgur.com Go ahead and cling to your hope and go through the same frustrations that many vets have already gone through when the melee glitch existed. Delete Minmatar from the game.
General John Ripper 25695	Posted - 2014.11.23 01:50:00 - [12] - Quote BrotherofHavok wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: Since Arirana is still around.... I am not going to bother helping you. nothing will be done about it. Also that sounds like lag. Don't want help. I recognize that there is nothing that can be done... OTHER than getting CCP to check out these players and possibly start BANNING or Suspending accounts. I could potentially agree with you that maybe it was indeed lag, however, lag does not give wild numbers on the kill pages (not sure what to call it when you see who killed you with what) When Assault CRs give damage readouts of 5556 against scouts something is messed up. When scouts walk through assault mass driver shots without taking any damage its not lag. When ADS get hit by forges, Plasma cannons and even swarms, and even get battered around in the air from the impacts but take no damage once again its not lag. I want to post images, that way, if ccp has something in place the players can be monitored and checked for hacking/cheating. I've played on every server that CCP has ever put out and I've never come across these players. Maybe that's just because there are a lot of players out there and I CANNOT meet them all, or maybe its just that these players, who showed up in full proto gear and taking little to no damage, are in fact cheating their way through Dust 514. Or maybe myself and about 30 different players are just butt hurt. You never know right? I have already tried to help. I have already tried to get CCP to ban cheaters from PC. Not just myself but alot of pc vets have tried. Nothing was done. You can try but imo it is a waste of time. I give up caring when the developers gave up caring. That is all there is too it. If you really want to bring this to CCP's attention then send in a support ticket here. http://dust514.com/community/support/ Include the name of the corp you fought and the date and time the battles took place. also www.imgur.com Go ahead and cling to your hope and go through the same frustrations that many vets have already gone through when the melee glitch existed. Delete Minmatar from the game.
BrotherofHavok PIanet Express Smart Deploy 102	Posted - 2014.11.23 01:52:00 - [13] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: BrotherofHavok wrote: If anyone has a free and easy way to post an image somewhere online so that I can give a link (without using personal info) PLEASE DO SO and I will immediately give a link with images to the ** that I'm talking about. So my corp had a pc district. Had being the correct word. Now they've been taken by a new corp that I've never even heard of before with players that I've never played against. 2 successive matches and our team agreed unanimously that it wasn't worth even showing up for the 3rd match. Now a friendly corp of ours has just come out of another match with the exact same team and corp. This time, we didn't even feel the need to complete the first ***** match! AV was useless against their ADS and I mean USELESS! ZERO DAMAGE REGISTERED! Their HMGs were able to shoot through not only cover, but also through different levels of the ground and through walls. Shotguns didn't even need to look at you to shoot and kill you with one hit and their cloaks lasted forever! A buddy of mine got killed by a Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle and the kill stats on the player showed that he had done OVER 5000 damage at a range GREATER than 300 meters away. WTF IS THAT!? That's all you can do is ask WTF!? It's not even a matter of lag, it's just straight up cheating. just use IMGUR cool thanks. Hopefully this is the right link to use. http://i.imgur.com/6qPq3ip.jpg Sincerely, Your Multi-purpose Everything User
Jynx'D Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 50	Posted - 2014.11.23 01:54:00 - [14] - Quote BrotherofHavok wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: BrotherofHavok wrote: If anyone has a free and easy way to post an image somewhere online so that I can give a link (without using personal info) PLEASE DO SO and I will immediately give a link with images to the ** that I'm talking about. So my corp had a pc district. Had being the correct word. Now they've been taken by a new corp that I've never even heard of before with players that I've never played against. 2 successive matches and our team agreed unanimously that it wasn't worth even showing up for the 3rd match. Now a friendly corp of ours has just come out of another match with the exact same team and corp. This time, we didn't even feel the need to complete the first ***** match! AV was useless against their ADS and I mean USELESS! ZERO DAMAGE REGISTERED! Their HMGs were able to shoot through not only cover, but also through different levels of the ground and through walls. Shotguns didn't even need to look at you to shoot and kill you with one hit and their cloaks lasted forever! A buddy of mine got killed by a Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle and the kill stats on the player showed that he had done OVER 5000 damage at a range GREATER than 300 meters away. WTF IS THAT!? That's all you can do is ask WTF!? It's not even a matter of lag, it's just straight up cheating. just use IMGUR cool thanks. Hopefully this is the right link to use. http://i.imgur.com/6qPq3ip.jpg Holy crap, lol. There's a few explanation of how this is possible - except, I don't think the CR can actually shoot that far w/o it's bullets disappearing - did they ever fix that? And that's one tanked out suit o.0
Arirana Ancient Exiles. 778	Posted - 2014.11.23 01:56:00 - [15] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: Since Arirana is still around.... I am not going to bother helping you. nothing will be done about it. Also that sounds like lag. Can confirm, am said cheater. Took 7 months off until I found a way to bypass the melee exploit fix, fear my elbow once again!
Jynx'D Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 50	Posted - 2014.11.23 01:57:00 - [16] - Quote Arirana wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: Since Arirana is still around.... I am not going to bother helping you. nothing will be done about it. Also that sounds like lag. Can confirm, am said cheater. Took 7 months off until I found a way to bypass the melee exploit fix, fear my elbow once again! I specced into melee because of you - the only wasted SP on my main toon, SP. Lol
Immortal John Ripper 25690	Posted - 2014.11.23 01:57:00 - [17] - Quote Arirana wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: Since Arirana is still around.... I am not going to bother helping you. nothing will be done about it. Also that sounds like lag. Can confirm, am said cheater. Took 7 months off until I found a way to bypass the melee exploit fix, fear my elbow once again! I read this, and now I need to change my underwear again..... You are the devil! Delete Minmatar from the game.
General John Ripper 25695	Posted - 2014.11.23 01:57:00 - [18] - Quote Arirana wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: Since Arirana is still around.... I am not going to bother helping you. nothing will be done about it. Also that sounds like lag. Can confirm, am said cheater. Took 7 months off until I found a way to bypass the melee exploit fix, fear my elbow once again! I read this, and now I need to change my underwear again..... You are the devil! Delete Minmatar from the game.
BrotherofHavok PIanet Express Smart Deploy 103	Posted - 2014.11.23 01:59:00 - [19] - Quote Arirana wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: Since Arirana is still around.... I am not going to bother helping you. nothing will be done about it. Also that sounds like lag. Can confirm, am said cheater. Took 7 months off until I found a way to bypass the melee exploit fix, fear my elbow once again! FALCON PUNCH! Sincerely, Your Multi-purpose Everything User
Arirana Ancient Exiles. 778	Posted - 2014.11.23 02:00:00 - [20] - Quote BrotherofHavok wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: BrotherofHavok wrote: If anyone has a free and easy way to post an image somewhere online so that I can give a link (without using personal info) PLEASE DO SO and I will immediately give a link with images to the ** that I'm talking about. So my corp had a pc district. Had being the correct word. Now they've been taken by a new corp that I've never even heard of before with players that I've never played against. 2 successive matches and our team agreed unanimously that it wasn't worth even showing up for the 3rd match. Now a friendly corp of ours has just come out of another match with the exact same team and corp. This time, we didn't even feel the need to complete the first ***** match! AV was useless against their ADS and I mean USELESS! ZERO DAMAGE REGISTERED! Their HMGs were able to shoot through not only cover, but also through different levels of the ground and through walls. Shotguns didn't even need to look at you to shoot and kill you with one hit and their cloaks lasted forever! A buddy of mine got killed by a Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle and the kill stats on the player showed that he had done OVER 5000 damage at a range GREATER than 300 meters away. WTF IS THAT!? That's all you can do is ask WTF!? It's not even a matter of lag, it's just straight up cheating. just use IMGUR cool thanks. Hopefully this is the right link to use. http://i.imgur.com/6qPq3ip.jpg O_O You weren't lying, looks like I have some strong competition! I hate competition just like everyone says I do!

Jynx'D Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 50	Posted - 2014.11.23 02:01:00 - [21] - Quote BrotherofHavok wrote: Arirana wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: Since Arirana is still around.... I am not going to bother helping you. nothing will be done about it. Also that sounds like lag. Can confirm, am said cheater. Took 7 months off until I found a way to bypass the melee exploit fix, fear my elbow once again! FALCON PUNCH! naaaah maaaaan. He didn't just one shot punch entire squads. He did this. to entire squads, lol.
BrotherofHavok PIanet Express Smart Deploy 103	Posted - 2014.11.23 02:04:00 - [22] - Quote Jynx'D wrote: BrotherofHavok wrote: Arirana wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: Since Arirana is still around.... I am not going to bother helping you. nothing will be done about it. Also that sounds like lag. Can confirm, am said cheater. Took 7 months off until I found a way to bypass the melee exploit fix, fear my elbow once again! FALCON PUNCH! naaaah maaaaan. He didn't just one shot punch entire squads. He did this. to entire squads, lol. I know, I was on the receiving end on more than a few of those glitched punches... and the Flaylocks.... and the mass drivers... you know what? I've been through every bit of Dusts reputable history, except for the Alpha version of course... but I came in during closed beta! And the falcon punch was a reference to what players are currently doing. Caldari suits with 4-5 mythos. Sincerely, Your Multi-purpose Everything User
gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 394	Posted - 2014.11.23 02:14:00 - [23] - Quote Those KAPPA.514 guys really rustle my jimmies. Gallente scout, heavy, logi, and assault Eternal Can I haz ur isk?
Daddrobit You Can Call Me Daddy 999	Posted - 2014.11.23 02:48:00 - [24] - Quote BrotherofHavok wrote: http://i.imgur.com/6qPq3ip.jpg Huh, lookit that. Only thing I can think of that isn't nefarious is that it was a warbarge strike that was registered as a CR, I've had it happen before. The other day I knocked an ADS outta the sky by a "militia swarm launcher" with a DAU-12 AFG in my hands. O.G. Pink Fluffy Bunny
Malkai Inos Any Given Day 1576	Posted - 2014.11.23 03:01:00 - [25] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: that sounds like lag switches, disruping the inflow of data while keeping outflow 100% its a normal thing for console potato kiddies to do Lag-switching requires the cheater to have game-state authority (to be the physical host) in order to work. Otherwise using one is detrimental to the switcher. The only (purely hypothetical) way to benefit from artificial lag would be to game the serverside lag compensation in a way to make it somehow consistently decide in ways you expect and/or in your favour. This would require a serious flaw in the lag compensation system to be present, discovered and kept secret by a rather large group of players for a very long time which, though possible, is rather unlikely. It's more likely they've either learned to operate in high ping scenarios (lead shots despite weapons being hitscan), where in closer proximity to the authoritative battle server (the matches being hosted on the asian server when you're connecting from US/EU), thus having lower ping, or both depending on the situation. Protip: You can guesstimate your current latency by measuring the time delay between firing a gun and loosing a bullet since the former is instant while the latter requires server confirmation to update. This way you can at least tell when your client-side hit detection is going to be unrealiable (hipfire dat kitten!) and its better to lead shots even though your weapon is supposed to hit instantly. Case in point: King Thunderbold (use html5, play at .25 speed) pings at 200-400ms in every single video I've watched. Note also how his ammo count keeps dropping in a very inconsistent manner despite him spraying the HMG full on. This is indicative of serious packet loss. Unsurprisingly, he's been complaining about whacky hit detection on multiple occasions when the culprit is likely to sit between him and the battleserver. This isn't going to magically fix horrible lag (check your router, traceroute to the battleservers to check for irregularities with your ISP) but it should at least help dealing with such scenarios if only by telling you when you're going to be at a clear disadvantage from the get go. You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
BrotherofHavok PIanet Express Smart Deploy 106	Posted - 2014.11.23 03:02:00 - [26] - Quote Daddrobit wrote: BrotherofHavok wrote: http://i.imgur.com/6qPq3ip.jpg Huh, lookit that. Only thing I can think of that isn't nefarious is that it was a warbarge strike that was registered as a CR, I've had it happen before. The other day I knocked an ADS outta the sky by a "militia swarm launcher" with a DAU-12 AFG in my hands. No OB was called in during that match of that image. Sincerely, Your Multi-purpose Everything User
G Felix 216	Posted - 2014.11.23 04:31:00 - [27] - Quote Malkai Inos wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: that sounds like lag switches, disruping the inflow of data while keeping outflow 100% its a normal thing for console potato kiddies to do Lag-switching requires the cheater to have game-state authority (to be the physical host) in order to work. Otherwise using one is detrimental to the switcher. The only (purely hypothetical) way to benefit from artificial lag would be to game the serverside lag compensation in a way to make it somehow consistently decide in ways you expect and/or in your favour. This would require a serious flaw in the lag compensation system to be present, discovered and kept secret by a rather large group of players for a very long time which, though possible, is rather unlikely. It's more likely they've either learned to operate in high ping scenarios (lead shots despite weapons being hitscan), where in closer proximity to the authoritative battle server (the matches being hosted on the asian server when you're connecting from US/EU), thus having lower ping, or both depending on the situation. Protip: You can guesstimate your current latency by measuring the time delay between firing a gun and loosing a bullet since the former is instant while the latter requires server confirmation to update. This way you can at least tell when your client-side hit detection is going to be unrealiable (hipfire dat kitten!) and its better to lead shots even though your weapon is supposed to hit instantly. Case in point: King Thunderbold (use html5, play at .25 speed) pings at 200-400ms in every single video I've watched. Note also how his ammo count keeps dropping in a very inconsistent manner despite him spraying the HMG full on. This is indicative of serious packet loss. Unsurprisingly, he's been complaining about whacky hit detection on multiple occasions when the culprit is likely to sit between him and the battleserver. This isn't going to magically fix horrible lag (check your router, traceroute to the battleservers to check for irregularities with your ISP) but it should at least help dealing with such scenarios if only by telling you when you're going to be at a clear disadvantage from the get go. This is really thorough, and full of great insight. Thanks. It's nice to learn there's actually a reason hipfire seems to remain effective when lag gets worse. Dust can be frustrating. (Gò»°Gûí°)Gò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+)
Hakyou Brutor Titans of Phoenix 1638	Posted - 2014.11.23 04:39:00 - [28] - Quote I'm assuming your buddy was in an ADS. Things like this happen often. When the ADS is falling from the sky, if it is shot by anything it will say that what it was being shot at while it was falling killed it rather than what had actually killed it. Knight Soiaire = my bae
Her Chosen Grade No.2 65	Posted - 2014.11.23 06:12:00 - [29] - Quote I believe the OP. KAPPA does not have a peachy reputation. Havok and Planet Express are honest players. He explained about an entire match where strange and impossible things where happening. Only an OB could do 5000 damage past 300m. CCP could easily cross reference the game and see if the guy in the picture was even a squad lead, and ever called in an OB. 1.9 has been coming with problems, but more so than ever has more evidence of cheating been being brought to life on these forums.
Mr Machine Guns 931	Posted - 2014.11.23 06:25:00 - [30] - Quote lol heavy with a light weapon in a pc

CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1920	Posted - 2014.11.23 06:42:00 - [31] - Quote BrotherofHavok wrote: So my corp had a pc district. Had being the correct word. Now they've been taken by a new corp that I've never even heard of before with players that I've never played against. 2 successive matches and our team agreed unanimously that it wasn't worth even showing up for the 3rd match. Now a friendly corp of ours has just come out of another match with the exact same team and corp. This time, we didn't even feel the need to complete the first ******* match! AV was useless against their ADS and I mean USELESS! ZERO DAMAGE REGISTERED! Their HMGs were able to shoot through not only cover, but also through different levels of the ground and through walls. Shotguns didn't even need to look at you to shoot and kill you with one hit and their cloaks lasted forever! A buddy of mine got killed by a Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle and the kill stats on the player showed that he had done OVER 5000 damage at a range GREATER than 300 meters away. WTF IS THAT!? That's all you can do is ask WTF!? It's not even a matter of lag, it's just straight up cheating. EDIT: http://i.imgur.com/6qPq3ip.jpg LOL i see you have encountered the dreaded laggy corporation known as KAPPA. what ever you do don't let that japanese corp take your district because they will change the timer to the no PC zone. no one wants to do PC with them ever because its a full blown lag festival. KEQ diplomat/ lolromansboat cost more then your whole village
gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 397	Posted - 2014.11.23 06:45:00 - [32] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: BrotherofHavok wrote: So my corp had a pc district. Had being the correct word. Now they've been taken by a new corp that I've never even heard of before with players that I've never played against. 2 successive matches and our team agreed unanimously that it wasn't worth even showing up for the 3rd match. Now a friendly corp of ours has just come out of another match with the exact same team and corp. This time, we didn't even feel the need to complete the first ***** match! AV was useless against their ADS and I mean USELESS! ZERO DAMAGE REGISTERED! Their HMGs were able to shoot through not only cover, but also through different levels of the ground and through walls. Shotguns didn't even need to look at you to shoot and kill you with one hit and their cloaks lasted forever! A buddy of mine got killed by a Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle and the kill stats on the player showed that he had done OVER 5000 damage at a range GREATER than 300 meters away. WTF IS THAT!? That's all you can do is ask WTF!? It's not even a matter of lag, it's just straight up cheating. EDIT: http://i.imgur.com/6qPq3ip.jpg LOL i see you have encountered the dreaded laggy corporation known as KAPPA. what ever you do don't let that japanese corp take your district because they will change the timer to the no PC zone. no one wants to do PC with them ever because its a full blown lag festival. ^^^They are the worst Gallente scout, heavy, logi, and assault Eternal Can I haz ur isk?**
calvin b Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 2262	Posted - 2014.11.23 07:04:00 - [33] - Quote The players and corp is most likely CCP. They rigged the game and are currently using god mode. They do so, so they can control the game and once Legion comes out you will see what their objective was. Can the other voices in other peoples minds hear my voices in my head????
calvin b Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 2262	Posted - 2014.11.23 07:07:00 - [34] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: BrotherofHavok wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: Since Arirana is still around.... I am not going to bother helping you. nothing will be done about it. Also that sounds like lag. Don't want help. I recognize that there is nothing that can be done... OTHER than getting CCP to check out these players and possibly start BANNING or Suspending accounts. I could potentially agree with you that maybe it was indeed lag, however, lag does not give wild numbers on the kill pages (not sure what to call it when you see who killed you with what) When Assault CRs give damage readouts of 5556 against scouts something is messed up. When scouts walk through assault mass driver shots without taking any damage its not lag. When ADS get hit by forges, Plasma cannons and even swarms, and even get battered around in the air from the impacts but take no damage once again its not lag. I want to post images, that way, if ccp has something in place the players can be monitored and checked for hacking/cheating. I've played on every server that CCP has ever put out and I've never come across these players. Maybe that's just because there are a lot of players out there and I CANNOT meet them all, or maybe its just that these players, who showed up in full proto gear and taking little to no damage, are in fact cheating their way through Dust 514. Or maybe myself and about 30 different players are just butt hurt. You never know right? I have already tried to help. I have already tried to get CCP to ban cheaters from PC. Not just myself but alot of pc vets have tried. Nothing was done. You can try but imo it is a waste of time. I give up caring when the developers gave up caring. That is all there is too it. If you really want to bring this to CCP's attention then send in a support ticket here. http://dust514.com/community/support/ Include the name of the corp you fought and the date and time the battles took place. also www.imgur.com Go ahead and cling to your hope and go through the same frustrations that many vets have already gone through when the melee glitch existed. I still think about that BS once in a while. One hit and your dead, there was no way to defend yourself. They ran Kin Cats and fist, it was absolute BS, Can the other voices in other peoples minds hear my voices in my head????
gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 399	Posted - 2014.11.23 07:11:00 - [35] - Quote calvin b wrote: The players and corp is most likely CCP. They rigged the game and are currently using god mode. They do so, so they can control the game and once Legion comes out you will see what their objective was. CCP Guy 6:All right guys, we need to make a profit let's make a game based off EVE and it's an Fps. CCP Guy 2:Great Idea Bill! CCP Guy 36:Wait I want to be cool and play this game too. CCP Guy 12:He's right we should also play this game, and give ourselves god mode. That'll definitly help make a profit, and make us look KoOL. CCP Guy that Approves Stuff:Totally lets do it, so we can be cool CCP: Gallente scout, heavy, logi, and assault Eternal Can I haz ur isk?
Dust User KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1094	Posted - 2014.11.23 08:05:00 - [36] - Quote gustavo acosta wrote: CUSE TOWN333 wrote: LOL i see you have encountered the dreaded laggy corporation known as KAPPA. what ever you do don't let that japanese corp take your district because they will change the timer to the no PC zone. no one wants to do PC with them ever because its a full blown lag festival. ^^^They are the worst All of this. I always dread when the battle finder lights up with these guys.
Izlare Lenix Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION 1129	Posted - 2014.11.23 08:33:00 - [37] - Quote I only know one dude from kappa and that is Bell Gator. He is almost impossible to kill. I have shot him with almost every weapon in the game and most times he takes no damage. I have seen him walk through mass driver rounds, grenades, fluxes and even REs without taking damage. Yet his SCR with modded controller always does prefect damage to the players he shoots. He almost always has around a 12 k/d because most of the time damage doesn't seem to register properly on him. I am not saying he might be doing something to cause this. All I am saying is players in the Asian region seem to always have an unfair advantage over other regions when it comes to lag and hit detection. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 997	Posted - 2014.11.23 08:36:00 - [38] - Quote Her Chosen wrote: Only an OB could do 5000 damage past 300m. Remote explosives planted on a vehicle could, could they not? You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all. ~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 400	Posted - 2014.11.23 08:48:00 - [39] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Her Chosen wrote: Only an OB could do 5000 damage past 300m. Remote explosives planted on a vehicle could, could they not? Not if you're a scout (apparently) and don't have 5000 hp to lose... Gallente scout, heavy, logi, and assault Eternal Can I haz ur isk?
Jynx'D Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 64	Posted - 2014.11.23 08:50:00 - [40] - Quote Guys, all damage your suit received before death is shown as 'damage dealt' on that board, it doesn't mean that one weapon did all that damage.

CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2565	Posted - 2014.11.23 09:28:00 - [41] - Quote LOLPC LOLCCP "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1921	Posted - 2014.11.23 10:08:00 - [42] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: LOLPC LOLCCP lolCP lolromansboat you missed some KEQ diplomat/ lolromansboat cost more then your whole village
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1542	Posted - 2014.11.23 13:04:00 - [43] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Jynx'D wrote: BrotherofHavok wrote: If anyone has a free and easy way to post an image somewhere online so that I can give a link (without using personal info) PLEASE DO SO and I will immediately give a link with images to the ** that I'm talking about. So my corp had a pc district. Had being the correct word. Now they've been taken by a new corp that I've never even heard of before with players that I've never played against. 2 successive matches and our team agreed unanimously that it wasn't worth even showing up for the 3rd match. Now a friendly corp of ours has just come out of another match with the exact same team and corp. This time, we didn't even feel the need to complete the first ***** match! AV was useless against their ADS and I mean USELESS! ZERO DAMAGE REGISTERED! Their HMGs were able to shoot through not only cover, but also through different levels of the ground and through walls. Shotguns didn't even need to look at you to shoot and kill you with one hit and their cloaks lasted forever! A buddy of mine got killed by a Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle and the kill stats on the player showed that he had done OVER 5000 damage at a range GREATER than 300 meters away. WTF IS THAT!? That's all you can do is ask WTF!? It's not even a matter of lag, it's just straight up cheating. I did a check - Kappa514 is the corp your accusing of cheating, right? Look at the name - it's obviously an asian corp. You should fight Nyain San back in the day - I swear to god the lag was so bad that w/e location you saw your enemy wasn't where he actually was being registered by the system. I would blue shield them all day while they insta slaughtered me, lol. that sounds like lag switches, disruping the inflow of data while keeping outflow 100% its a normal thing for console potato kiddies to do Haha so the people complaining about sever lag / cheaters are the ones attempting the 'lag switching' procedure and therefore only hurt themselves? That makes sense. If you try that on a server based game something like that really does happen. Not all people realise 'lag switching' does not work unless you are hosting the game. People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
CrotchGrab 360 Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase 1522	Posted - 2014.11.23 13:18:00 - [44] - Quote Even in pub matches I'm getting this strange thing on occasion whereby people will not take damage, I imagine this is the same case in PC only worse just like how lag in PC is worse than lag in pub matches. Something strange is happening lately, I don't think people are cheating; if I get this glitch every now and again it is possible that it could happen to an entire team. DUST VIDEOS
Izlare Lenix Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION 1129	Posted - 2014.11.23 14:06:00 - [45] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: Even in pub matches I'm getting this strange thing on occasion whereby people will not take damage, I imagine this is the same case in PC only worse just like how lag in PC is worse than lag in pub matches. Something strange is happening lately, I don't think people are cheating; if I get this glitch every now and again it is possible that it could happen to an entire team. I agree with this. But it seems to happen more when asian region players are playing on American server. You can shoot them all day but the damage won't register on them yet they have zero problems killing you. Add it to the list of BS CCP will never fix with this game. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
Bri Bub Eternal Beings Dark Taboo 82	Posted - 2014.11.23 14:39:00 - [46] - Quote Will the "Last District Rule" be invoked here? I see Planet Express being pretty chill about the circumstance despite their misgivings but... Do they have to outright request the rule be applied here? I was following the Last District discussion in the war room for a bit, maybe it has been scrapped for another solution... Be just and if you can't be just be arbitrary.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2400	Posted - 2014.11.23 15:03:00 - [47] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Her Chosen wrote: Only an OB could do 5000 damage past 300m. Remote explosives planted on a vehicle could, could they not? When I had explosives 3, I had a 30k damage jihad jeep. That required 2 logi suits. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Jynx'D Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 80	Posted - 2014.11.23 18:47:00 - [48] - Quote Bri Bub wrote: Will the "Last District Rule" be invoked here? I see Planet Express being pretty chill about the circumstance despite their misgivings but... Do they have to outright request the rule be applied here? I was following the Last District discussion in the war room for a bit, maybe it has been scrapped for another solution... War Room discussions confuse the General Discussion peasants.
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4858	Posted - 2014.11.23 19:07:00 - [49] - Quote BrotherofHavok wrote: So my corp had a pc district. Had being the correct word. Now they've been taken by a new corp that I've never even heard of before with players that I've never played against. 2 successive matches and our team agreed unanimously that it wasn't worth even showing up for the 3rd match. Now a friendly corp of ours has just come out of another match with the exact same team and corp. This time, we didn't even feel the need to complete the first ***** match! AV was useless against their ADS and I mean USELESS! ZERO DAMAGE REGISTERED! Their HMGs were able to shoot through not only cover, but also through different levels of the ground and through walls. Shotguns didn't even need to look at you to shoot and kill you with one hit and their cloaks lasted forever! A buddy of mine got killed by a Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle and the kill stats on the player showed that he had done OVER 5000 damage at a range GREATER than 300 meters away. WTF IS THAT!? That's all you can do is ask WTF!? It's not even a matter of lag, it's just straight up cheating. EDIT: http://i.imgur.com/6qPq3ip.jpg WTF. Make sure you send CCP match details. Time of the PC, location of the battle, all that . Kappa is composed of many Asian/Filipino and you will experience lag. But they are not invincible and I have fought matches against Kappa. They are quite capable of losing. Founder & CEO Fatal Absolution** Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought Strive. No mattter what
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 429	Posted - 2014.11.23 19:24:00 - [50] - Quote Aru, I've seen him before. My SG didn't touch his shields at 2m. He then slowly turned around and did the same amount of damage as stated in the pic... what's with all these glitches/hacks? AND I BACKED THE F*CK DOWN.

BrotherofHavok PIanet Express Smart Deploy 108	Posted - 2014.11.25 23:04:00 - [51] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: I'm assuming your buddy was in an ADS. Things like this happen often. When the ADS is falling from the sky, if it is shot by anything it will say that what it was being shot at while it was falling killed it rather than what had actually killed it. no to the ADS Sincerely, Your Multi-purpose Everything User
BrotherofHavok PIanet Express Smart Deploy 108	Posted - 2014.11.25 23:08:00 - [52] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: BrotherofHavok wrote: So my corp had a pc district. Had being the correct word. Now they've been taken by a new corp that I've never even heard of before with players that I've never played against. 2 successive matches and our team agreed unanimously that it wasn't worth even showing up for the 3rd match. Now a friendly corp of ours has just come out of another match with the exact same team and corp. This time, we didn't even feel the need to complete the first ******* match! AV was useless against their ADS and I mean USELESS! ZERO DAMAGE REGISTERED! Their HMGs were able to shoot through not only cover, but also through different levels of the ground and through walls. Shotguns didn't even need to look at you to shoot and kill you with one hit and their cloaks lasted forever! A buddy of mine got killed by a Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle and the kill stats on the player showed that he had done OVER 5000 damage at a range GREATER than 300 meters away. WTF IS THAT!? That's all you can do is ask WTF!? It's not even a matter of lag, it's just straight up cheating. EDIT: http://i.imgur.com/6qPq3ip.jpg LOL i see you have encountered the dreaded laggy corporation known as KAPPA. what ever you do don't let that japanese corp take your district because they will change the timer to the no PC zone. no one wants to do PC with them ever because its a full blown lag festival. unfortunately the second they attack you it's pretty much over. Been in several PC's for other friendly corps and basically the second we see them and play for a little bit it becomes apparent that either the enemy team is lagging the game out of existence or they're cheating. Several times I swear i've been sniped through buildings. It's like they're taking advantage of several things in the game that would cut down on lag (no scope having things disappear from view but then when you zoom in they reappear). Their corp districts are growing and there's not really much my corp can do about it. Sincerely, Your Multi-purpose Everything User
BrotherofHavok PIanet Express Smart Deploy 108	Posted - 2014.11.25 23:11:00 - [53] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: I only know one dude from kappa and that is Bell Gator. He is almost impossible to kill. I have shot him with almost every weapon in the game and most times he takes no damage. I have seen him walk through mass driver rounds, grenades, fluxes and even REs without taking damage. Yet his SCR with modded controller always does prefect damage to the players he shoots. He almost always has around a 12 k/d because most of the time damage doesn't seem to register properly on him. I am not saying he might be doing something to cause this. All I am saying is players in the Asian region seem to always have an unfair advantage over other regions when it comes to lag and hit detection. Yeah, one of their cal scouts was walking around like a sentinel weighted down with armor plates and couldn't be hit during a match. Literally walked through mass driver shots, even the ones that detonated on his chest. Swapped to an assault variant, same problem. Sincerely, Your Multi-purpose Everything User
BrotherofHavok PIanet Express Smart Deploy 108	Posted - 2014.11.25 23:17:00 - [54] - Quote Bri Bub wrote: Will the "Last District Rule" be invoked here? I see Planet Express being pretty chill about the circumstance despite their misgivings but... Do they have to outright request the rule be applied here? I was following the Last District discussion in the war room for a bit, maybe it has been scrapped for another solution... Sorry but i'm not familiar with the "Last District Rule" can you please explain what that is? Sincerely, Your Multi-purpose Everything User
Ahkhomi Cypher Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 441	Posted - 2014.11.25 23:22:00 - [55] - Quote PC vs Kappa is pure fukkery. Would not recommend. 1 star Seriously Opus Arcana \| TBD Ringleader Hi
emm kay G0DS AM0NG MEN 223	Posted - 2014.11.25 23:29:00 - [56] - Quote If the packets aren't recieved in X ms, the server moves on. baaad way to run TQ. CCP should be beaten with a stick for using that. There is a reason you never see me in battle. it's because I see you first.
Bri Bub Eternal Beings Dark Taboo 84	Posted - 2014.11.26 01:18:00 - [57] - Quote BrotherofHavok wrote: Bri Bub wrote: Will the "Last District Rule" be invoked here? I see Planet Express being pretty chill about the circumstance despite their misgivings but... Do they have to outright request the rule be applied here? I was following the Last District discussion in the war room for a bit, maybe it has been scrapped for another solution... Sorry but i'm not familiar with the "Last District Rule" can you please explain what that is? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=181263&find=unread Be just and if you can't be just be arbitrary.


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