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sir RAVEN WING wrote:

Leadfoot10 wrote:

RayRay James wrote:

Hakyou Brutor wrote:

If there were no heavies I would never use my scout, honestly.

I prefer assault, but I can't even get remotely close to killing a good proto heavy with my assault before he turns around and insta melts me.

If I, of all people, can kill a proto heavy with a logi and an ACR, you can kill one with your assault

Not a good heavy, you can't. Maybe a noob or someone with little gun game...even a halfway competent heavy melts medium suits.

Your best chance as an assault/logi is to outnumber them -- or perhaps use a OKH weapon like a plasma cannon or RE.

Medium suits simply don't have enough DPS or EHP to stand a chance.

Hakyou is right, scouts are the only real counter -- or more heavies -- and that's exactly what you see in PC where everyone already knows this.

I used to be able to melt MLT - ADV heavies in seconds with my Kaal RR, protos were more of a challenge.
That ended with they nerfed it to hell.

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Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2261	Posted - 2014.11.21 18:12:00 - [31] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: If there were no scouts when you logged on tomorrow how much more fun would Dust be? I'm thinking 8 or 10 million times more fun. I'll play along... What would it do to heavies with their only real counter removed from the game? That asked, it is an interesting thought experiment that I would change slightly: What if there was no cloak tomorrow and EWAR didn't provide directional information, and heavies were nerfed a bit against other suits? I'd think we'd have a much more enjoyable game. Scouts and Heavies with the occasional logi/assault/commando shouldn't be the end game in Dust.
Zindorak G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1318	Posted - 2014.11.21 18:16:00 - [32] - Quote Sad cuz its my only proto role and i cant do pc Pokemon master and Tekken Lord Gk0 Scout yay :)
Fizzer XCIV Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 1197	Posted - 2014.11.21 18:23:00 - [33] - Quote I'd probably actually play and not just AFK some more. At least 4x more fun... Please, make my Opus pretty...
RayRay James Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION 749	Posted - 2014.11.21 18:29:00 - [34] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: If there were no heavies I would never use my scout, honestly. I prefer assault, but I can't even get remotely close to killing a good proto heavy with my assault before he turns around and insta melts me. If I, of all people, can kill a proto heavy with a logi and an ACR, you can kill one with your assault
RayRay James Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION 749	Posted - 2014.11.21 18:31:00 - [35] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: It's weird because I'm terrible at Dust and I don't mind heavies at all. I am going to quit being a baby and dampen up a Min Assault to see if it helps. But it's more than just the cloak shotguns or whatever. It's everything. The scouts are just better at everything. I'm just ready for EWAR to get balanced and I had a horrible night of Dust. I have those nights too, Thor. Sometimes you juat need to log out and put the controller down. Forcibly... repeatedly... then order a new controller.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2263	Posted - 2014.11.21 18:45:00 - [36] - Quote RayRay James wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: If there were no heavies I would never use my scout, honestly. I prefer assault, but I can't even get remotely close to killing a good proto heavy with my assault before he turns around and insta melts me. If I, of all people, can kill a proto heavy with a logi and an ACR, you can kill one with your assault Not a good heavy, you can't. Maybe a noob or someone with little gun game...even a halfway competent heavy melts medium suits. Your best chance as an assault/logi is to outnumber them -- or perhaps use a OKH weapon like a plasma cannon or RE. Medium suits simply don't have enough DPS or EHP to stand a chance.
RayRay James Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION 750	Posted - 2014.11.21 18:51:00 - [37] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: RayRay James wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: If there were no heavies I would never use my scout, honestly. I prefer assault, but I can't even get remotely close to killing a good proto heavy with my assault before he turns around and insta melts me. If I, of all people, can kill a proto heavy with a logi and an ACR, you can kill one with your assault Not a good heavy, you can't. Maybe a noob or someone with little gun game...even a halfway competent heavy melts medium suits. Your best chance as an assault/logi is to outnumber them -- or perhaps use a OKH weapon like a plasma cannon or RE. Medium suits simply don't have enough DPS or EHP to stand a chance. Hakyou is right, scouts are the only real counter -- or more heavies -- and that's exactly what you see in PC where everyone already knows this. He never qualified if the proto heavy knew what they were doing
Lonewolf Heavy Chaotic Company 169	Posted - 2014.11.21 19:00:00 - [38] - Quote I would be bored. Scouts add an interesting dynamic just like heavies. Scouts are quick, and deadly but easy to kill if you see them coming Heavies are tough, and just as deadly, but slow. Plus, as a commando I would get bored of not being able to insta melee kill scouts Sentinel/Commando
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 377	Posted - 2014.11.21 19:23:00 - [39] - Quote saxonmish wrote: like the good'ol days We've always had scouts, sure they were snipers, but we had them. I was assault then, I consider assault my origins and soon I'm going to return to my origins. *"I shall fight for my people until I can't come back."*
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 377	Posted - 2014.11.21 19:25:00 - [40] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: RayRay James wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: If there were no heavies I would never use my scout, honestly. I prefer assault, but I can't even get remotely close to killing a good proto heavy with my assault before he turns around and insta melts me. If I, of all people, can kill a proto heavy with a logi and an ACR, you can kill one with your assault Not a good heavy, you can't. Maybe a noob or someone with little gun game...even a halfway competent heavy melts medium suits. Your best chance as an assault/logi is to outnumber them -- or perhaps use a OKH weapon like a plasma cannon or RE. Medium suits simply don't have enough DPS or EHP to stand a chance. Hakyou is right, scouts are the only real counter -- or more heavies -- and that's exactly what you see in PC where everyone already knows this. I used to be able to melt MLT - ADV heavies in seconds with my Kaal RR, protos were more of a challenge. That ended with they nerfed it to hell. *"I shall fight for my people until I can't come back."*

Crimson ShieId Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1405	Posted - 2014.11.21 19:30:00 - [41] - Quote Oh, yay. Everyone switches to sentinels. At least scouts usually die in one punch, though I suppose the fat people are easy to catch and beat down... Meh, maybe for a few days. It'd actually be interesting to have it done with each class in turn, perhaps even in pairs, see how the game feels with certain things removed. I want to punch.
Banjo Robertson Random Gunz RISE of LEGION 321	Posted - 2014.11.21 19:34:00 - [42] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: If there were no scouts when you logged on tomorrow how much more fun would Dust be? I'm thinking 8 or 10 million times more fun. there would just be more heavy suits in battles making the game even less fun.
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 13332	Posted - 2014.11.21 19:48:00 - [43] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: If there were no scouts when you logged on tomorrow how much more fun would Dust be? I'm thinking 8 or 10 million times more fun. I'm thinking about 1.2x more fun. The lack of scouts will just add more heavies. If you remove heavies, the same result will happen only in reverse. If BOTH are removed, then it becomes over 9000x more fun for me. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2263	Posted - 2014.11.21 20:18:00 - [44] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: RayRay James wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: If there were no heavies I would never use my scout, honestly. I prefer assault, but I can't even get remotely close to killing a good proto heavy with my assault before he turns around and insta melts me. If I, of all people, can kill a proto heavy with a logi and an ACR, you can kill one with your assault Not a good heavy, you can't. Maybe a noob or someone with little gun game...even a halfway competent heavy melts medium suits. Your best chance as an assault/logi is to outnumber them -- or perhaps use a OKH weapon like a plasma cannon or RE. Medium suits simply don't have enough DPS or EHP to stand a chance. Hakyou is right, scouts are the only real counter -- or more heavies -- and that's exactly what you see in PC where everyone already knows this. I used to be able to melt MLT - ADV heavies in seconds with my Kaal RR, protos were more of a challenge. That ended with they nerfed it to hell. With what suit? Certainly not a scout or a medium suit -- unless the heavy is bad. Really bad. Like running between the bridge map outside points bad. In virtually any encounter within its range, the heavies double EHP and DPS melts your suit, and it's not even a contest in a STD or ADV suit much less a proto, in my experience.


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