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Middas Betancore Kirjuun Heiian 169	Posted - 2014.11.13 20:24:00 - [1] - Quote Kirjuun Heiian is a public channel for caldari fw on eve and dust 514 to congregate and play together, moderated by an eve player anyone is free to come and go as they please, though moderators reserve the right to kick abusive or disruptive players. The channel can be used to form sqds and q syncs with other caldari fw dust players Kirjuun Heiian, the corporation, works hard to co-ordinate with eve online players to bring orbital support and also works to grow the relationship between the Caldari militias In both games Add: Kirjuun Heiian to your communications overview for a caldari FW channel More information will follow Major M. Betancore Acting CEO : Kirjuun Heiian "They will pay....rivers of blood.." CEO-Kirjuun Heiian-Caldari Faction Warfare Corp Join our public chat channel. Kirjuun Heiian
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1847	Posted - 2014.11.13 20:27:00 - [2] - Quote Middas Betancore wrote: Kirjuun Heiian is a public channel for caldari fw on eve and dust 514 to congregate and play together, moderated by an eve player anyone is free to come and go as they please, though moderators reserve the right to kick abusive or disruptive players. The channel can be used to form sqds and q syncs with other caldari fw dust players Kirjuun Heiian, the corporation, works hard to co-ordinate with eve online players to bring orbital support and also works to grow the relationship between the Caldari militias In both games Add: Kirjuun Heiian to your communications overview for a caldari FW channel More information will follow Major M. Betancore Acting CEO : Kirjuun Heiian "They will pay....rivers of blood.." +1 to stomping those 4eyed gallente liers and hypocrites :P [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 19036	Posted - 2014.11.13 20:29:00 - [3] - Quote Oh hey, the terrorist state is attempting to organise again. Keyword attempting. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Currently challenging CCP Rattati for the queef
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1595	Posted - 2014.11.13 20:33:00 - [4] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Oh hey, the terrorist state is attempting to organise again. Keyword attempting. Go be stupid somewhere else thanks. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 19036	Posted - 2014.11.13 20:37:00 - [5] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Oh hey, the terrorist state is attempting to organise again. Keyword attempting. Go be stupid somewhere else thanks. It's so nice to watch you cry whenever I come into a thread. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Currently challenging CCP Rattati for the queef
Middas Betancore Kirjuun Heiian 172	Posted - 2014.11.13 20:42:00 - [6] - Quote in the light of APEX being released on the market, it was time to put forward a public announcement again. CEO-Kirjuun Heiian-Caldari Faction Warfare Corp Join our public chat channel. Kirjuun Heiian
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 19037	Posted - 2014.11.13 20:45:00 - [7] - Quote Middas Betancore wrote: in the light of APEX being released on the market, it was time to put forward a public announcement again. Yep, it'll be interesting to see if the BPOs bring in some more consistent FW players. I'm sure it'd be more successful if some of them weren't so... odd, though. I mean, Calscout with an active scanner instead of a cloak? LP stores still need a bit of tweaking to fix. I hear the missile turret in the Cal store has its value bugged as well. Hopefully we'll see some good fights cropping up anyway! You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Currently challenging CCP Rattati for the queef
Middas Betancore Kirjuun Heiian 172	Posted - 2014.11.13 20:47:00 - [8] - Quote I forsee a great resurgence of fw action soon Im calling LP store goodies for xmas Strangely last December was good season for fw too, made much isk from OB .....The Winter Wars CEO-Kirjuun Heiian-Caldari Faction Warfare Corp Join our public chat channel. Kirjuun Heiian
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1595	Posted - 2014.11.13 20:48:00 - [9] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Oh hey, the terrorist state is attempting to organise again. Keyword attempting. Go be stupid somewhere else thanks. It's so nice to watch you cry whenever I come into a thread. 'Hurp durp people tell me off when I act like an idiot, time to throw some baseless accusations around!' Shouldn't you go crawl back up kirks ass? I'm sure it's getting cold without you or the other sycophants. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 19039	Posted - 2014.11.13 20:52:00 - [10] - Quote OB strikes have always been very profitable, it's just a shame there isn't a better infrastructure in place for getting support to fights properly. This time last year was fresh out of the FW redesign and people were actually interested in it. Some things were buggy as hell (remember how orbitalling a friendly null cannon would get you kicked, even if you did no friendly damage?) but at least we didn't have 10 minute queue times. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Currently challenging CCP Rattati for the queef

Middas Betancore Kirjuun Heiian 173	Posted - 2014.11.13 20:57:00 - [11] - Quote My dust standing took a frakkin beating from OB strikes, but it's interesting come out with some very cheap, fast OB ship fits If your lucky it will spawn the same system a few in a row. But so far 1billion isk profit in a month is my best CEO-Kirjuun Heiian-Caldari Faction Warfare Corp Join our public chat channel. Kirjuun Heiian
Mexxx Dust-Slayer Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 97	Posted - 2014.11.13 21:03:00 - [12] - Quote Middas Betancore wrote: I forsee a great resurgence of fw action soon Im calling LP store goodies for xmas Strangely last December was good season for fw too, made much isk from OB .....The Winter Wars I believe z platoon was born around that time.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 19039	Posted - 2014.11.13 21:03:00 - [13] - Quote Yeah, on some of the big offensives I spent over an hour running strikes in the same system sometimes. It nets bucketloads of ISK doing easy strikes like that, and when you arrive so promptly the strikes become very decisive. There's nothing quite so demoralising or crippling to your match than having your first advance vaporised while the objectives are all being gobbled up at the start. Speaking of the 'winter wars', there was also a very entertaining glitch in the early days of the OB support. Strike requests wouldn't disappear after you fired for one. So you could have your entire team split into squad leaders, then call in 16 OBs. It needed two different strikers because you can't actually lock 16 targets with a single dessie, but 16 OBs every three minutes was obscene and made some people very very rich very quickly. So you play EVE, then? Would you be up for a frig 1v1 sometime? Just a friendly duel in cheap t1 frigs or whatever, I like duelling DUSTers. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Currently challenging CCP Rattati for the queef
Jacques Cayton II Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1059	Posted - 2014.11.13 21:08:00 - [14] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Oh hey, the terrorist state is attempting to organise again. Keyword attempting. Tell me why you fight? Don't lie and say for freedom. If you truly fought for freedom you'd allow the Caldari to live the way they want without oppression. You brought the terrorist cult templis dragonaors to your front door by keeping caldari prime. So whom and why do you really fight the Caldari? Is it hate? Greed? Because the state only wants 2 things from the Federation and thats caldari prime, and peace. We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Pvt Numnutz Prophets of the Velocirapture 1958	Posted - 2014.11.13 21:13:00 - [15] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Oh hey, the terrorist state is attempting to organise again. Keyword attempting. For being so "free" you gallentians sure don't know anything about history. You sure do have a nice military industrial complex tyrant, us caldari will continue to fight for our freedom. Master Skyshark rider Kaalaka dakka tamer
Shiyou Hidiyoshi Ancient Exiles. 1074	Posted - 2014.11.13 21:22:00 - [16] - Quote When does the cult usually rallying for meetings? I need my Cal LP and are willing to help. Mustard suit will be mine for meh collection. "I don't always lock threads but when I do, I vigorously masterbait afterwards." - CCP LockingBro
Middas Betancore Kirjuun Heiian 174	Posted - 2014.11.13 21:24:00 - [17] - Quote My "unit" at that time was State SOCOM, same as Kirjuun, but was password protected. I was fc'ing on dust/EVE and dropping OB's Z 13 was one of the units strongest sqd leaders along with NINJAPIRATEROBOTZOMBIE and many others, once that went dark, Z13 formed z platoon, I joined ROFL for a bit then joined with Mina to push Kirjuun Heiian, CEO-Kirjuun Heiian-Caldari Faction Warfare Corp Join our public chat channel. Kirjuun Heiian
Shiyou Hidiyoshi Ancient Exiles. 1074	Posted - 2014.11.13 21:27:00 - [18] - Quote Middas Betancore wrote: My "unit" at that time was State SOCOM, same as Kirjuun, but was password protected. I was fc'ing on dust/EVE and dropping OB's Z 13 was one of the units strongest sqd leaders along with NINJAPIRATEROBOTZOMBIE and many others, once that went dark, Z13 formed z platoon, I joined ROFL for a bit then joined with Mina to push Kirjuun Heiian, buuuuuuuut when does the local cult rally for meetings!!!!!!!!? * sigh * Fine, I'll type it like this... Excuse me sir, when do the Cal teams usually start forming to fight? In Eve time Better? "I don't always lock threads but when I do, I vigorously masterbait afterwards." - CCP LockingBro
Middas Betancore Kirjuun Heiian 174	Posted - 2014.11.13 21:29:00 - [19] - Quote I didn't know of that glitch The eve ob target name glitch is still there, I mean to collect timestamps and data to pass onto IWS As for a frig fight, I'll get back to u on that ( pc trouble ), Navy hookbill vs Navy Comet could be sweet CEO-Kirjuun Heiian-Caldari Faction Warfare Corp Join our public chat channel. Kirjuun Heiian
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 19043	Posted - 2014.11.13 21:42:00 - [20] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Oh hey, the terrorist state is attempting to organise again. Keyword attempting. Tell me why you fight? Don't lie and say for freedom. If you truly fought for freedom you'd allow the Caldari to live the way they want without oppression. You brought the terrorist cult templis dragonaors to your front door by keeping caldari prime. So whom and why do you really fight the Caldari? Is it hate? Greed? Because the state only wants 2 things from the Federation and thats caldari prime, and peace. The Caldari state has never wanted peace. Every eruption of this bloody conflict has been catalysed by the Caldari. Once upon a time, the Gallente and Caldari lived side by side in peace. After the Gallente had brought the Caldari through a technological uplift, they became a founding member of what would eventually become the Federation. Fast forward quite a bit of time and it turns out that the Caldari are disgruntled with the Federation. Why? They don't have as big a population as other members of the democratic Federation, so they don't get as much of a seat. In their search for power, they begin building colonies in secret. Many of them. An entire empire, built in secrecy from the rest of the Federation. Then another ship stumbles across a Caldari military installation, and pandemonium. What do you expect people to think of you when they discover you've been building a military in secret? What do you expect them to do when you secede from a previously peaceful and prosperous relationship and raze a city after they discover you've built a military in secret? The Caldari state has always wanted power. The Federation was content to sit behind Tripwire and leave the Caldari alone, leading to an uneasy peace for hundreds of years. Then the Caldari broke it as they jumped supercapitals in and the most recent incarnation of the war broke out as they invaded hundreds of star systems and occupied a world with a majority Gallente population that had been Gallentean for two hundred years. Did you expect respect for your ancestral homeworld? Hypocrisy. You auctioned the ancestral homeworld of the Intaki, after brutally occupying it. So let me ask you, you who would claim to want peace. What is it that drives the State? Hate? Greed? It is both of those things. I fight for the Federation because I don't want to let a terrorist state have their way with my people. You mock our freedoms while you slave away under megacorporations, unwilling to see that the freedom we have is far greater than that in any other empire. Ours is the most diverse and free population in New Eden. We are not the Amarrians, who use slaves. We are not the Caldari, who are corporate slaves. We bankroll the Minmatar Republic because we believe people should be free to choose for themselves. The Federation does not demand mandatory military service of its people. It does not throw them away as numbers on a spreadsheet. It asks them, and they have a choice. My choice is to continue protecting those who cannot protect themselves. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Currently challenging CCP Rattati for the queef

Operative 1174 Uuali The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 67	Posted - 2014.11.13 22:16:00 - [21] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Middas Betancore wrote: in the light of APEX being released on the market, it was time to put forward a public announcement again. I'm sure it'd be more successful if some of them weren't so... odd, though. I mean, Calscout with an active scanner instead of a cloak? Yeah, imagine that! A scout acting like a scout. Pshaw! I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14575	Posted - 2014.11.13 22:31:00 - [22] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Yeah, on some of the big offensives I spent over an hour running strikes in the same system sometimes. It nets bucketloads of ISK doing easy strikes like that, and when you arrive so promptly the strikes become very decisive. There's nothing quite so demoralising or crippling to your match than having your first advance vaporised while the objectives are all being gobbled up at the start. Speaking of the 'winter wars', there was also a very entertaining glitch in the early days of the OB support. Strike requests wouldn't disappear after you fired for one. So you could have your entire team split into squad leaders, then call in 16 OBs. It needed two different strikers because you can't actually lock 16 targets with a single dessie, but 16 OBs every three minutes was obscene and made some people very very rich very quickly. So you play EVE, then? Would you be up for a frig 1v1 sometime? Just a friendly duel in cheap t1 frigs or whatever, I like duelling DUSTers. Oh now you didn't Arkena. FIGHT ME! Finally have all my Frig skills up at passable levels though if you throw a ***** AB-MWD Tristain and me *** going down. "HeGÇÖs sorry. ThatGÇÖs his sorry faceGÇª. Just keep quiet for now and maybe you'll get through this." -Kador Ouryon
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 19050	Posted - 2014.11.13 22:35:00 - [23] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Oh now you didn't Arkena. FIGHT ME! Finally have all my Frig skills up at passable levels though if you throw a ***** AB-MWD Tristain and me *** going down. Hell yeah! I'm not using a Tristan, though, I can guarantee you that much. I trust you'll be using an Amarr frig? I'll be using a Gallentean one. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Currently challenging CCP Rattati for the queef
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14576	Posted - 2014.11.13 22:41:00 - [24] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: True Adamance wrote: Oh now you didn't Arkena. FIGHT ME! Finally have all my Frig skills up at passable levels though if you throw a ***** AB-MWD Tristain and me *** going down. Hell yeah! I'm not using a Tristan, though, I can guarantee you that much. I trust you'll be using an Amarr frig? I'll be using a Gallentean one. Of course now that I finally have Advanced Weapons Upgrades to IV and a general understand of Frigate combat. We could also do Cruisers though I have no experience with them. Also are we doing T1 or T2 hulls? "HeGÇÖs sorry. ThatGÇÖs his sorry faceGÇª. Just keep quiet for now and maybe you'll get through this." -Kador Ouryon
Jacques Cayton II Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1061	Posted - 2014.11.14 00:46:00 - [25] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Oh hey, the terrorist state is attempting to organise again. Keyword attempting. Tell me why you fight? Don't lie and say for freedom. If you truly fought for freedom you'd allow the Caldari to live the way they want without oppression. You brought the terrorist cult templis dragonaors to your front door by keeping caldari prime. So whom and why do you really fight the Caldari? Is it hate? Greed? Because the state only wants 2 things from the Federation and thats caldari prime, and peace. The Caldari state has never wanted peace. Every eruption of this bloody conflict has been catalysed by the Caldari. Once upon a time, the Gallente and Caldari lived side by side in peace. After the Gallente had brought the Caldari through a technological uplift, they became a founding member of what would eventually become the Federation. Fast forward quite a bit of time and it turns out that the Caldari are disgruntled with the Federation. Why? They don't have as big a population as other members of the democratic Federation, so they don't get as much of a seat. In their search for power, they begin building colonies in secret. Many of them. An entire empire, built in secrecy from the rest of the Federation. Then another ship stumbles across a Caldari military installation, and pandemonium. What do you expect people to think of you when they discover you've been building a military in secret? What do you expect them to do when you secede from a previously peaceful and prosperous relationship and raze a city after they discover you've built a military in secret? The Caldari state has always wanted power. The Federation was content to sit behind Tripwire and leave the Caldari alone, leading to an uneasy peace for hundreds of years. Then the Caldari broke it as they jumped supercapitals in and the most recent incarnation of the war broke out as they invaded hundreds of star systems and occupied a world with a majority Gallente population that had been Gallentean for two hundred years. Did you expect respect for your ancestral homeworld? Hypocrisy. You auctioned the ancestral homeworld of the Intaki, after brutally occupying it. So let me ask you, you who would claim to want peace. What is it that drives the State? Hate? Greed? It is both of those things. I fight for the Federation because I don't want to let a terrorist state have their way with my people. You mock our freedoms while you slave away under megacorporations, unwilling to see that the freedom we have is far greater than that in any other empire. Ours is the most diverse and free population in New Eden. We are not the Amarrians, who use slaves. We are not the Caldari, who are corporate slaves. We bankroll the Minmatar Republic because we believe people should be free to choose for themselves. The Federation does not demand mandatory military service of its people. It does not throw them away as numbers on a spreadsheet. It asks them, and they have a choice. My choice is to continue protecting those who cannot protect themselves. Gallente propaganda did a number on you We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 381	Posted - 2014.11.14 00:57:00 - [26] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: We are not the Amarrians, who use slaves. We do not use slaves. Useing a slave implies we do it for ourselves. Our purpose is altruistic and moral in nature. We enslave for the sole purpose of fortifying their character. When they have grown into strong upstanding individuals we free them. We do not enslave for our own gain. We enslaves for our charge's gain. We sacrifice our time and energy for our charges. We forge them into individuals capable of making a mark on the universe. Do not mistake that.
Middas Betancore Kirjuun Heiian 176	Posted - 2014.11.14 06:13:00 - [27] - Quote Kirjuun Heiian-Join Today CEO-Kirjuun Heiian-Caldari Faction Warfare Corp Join our public chat channel. Kirjuun Heiian
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 19085	Posted - 2014.11.14 07:08:00 - [28] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Gallente propaganda did a number on you You can dismiss truth as propaganda all you like, it won't change the fact that you fight for a state that has literally had a government of terrorists. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Currently challenging CCP Rattati for the queef
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 228	Posted - 2014.11.14 07:11:00 - [29] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Oh hey, the terrorist state is attempting to organise again. Keyword attempting. Tell me why you fight? Don't lie and say for freedom. If you truly fought for freedom you'd allow the Caldari to live the way they want without oppression. You brought the terrorist cult templis dragonaors to your front door by keeping caldari prime. So whom and why do you really fight the Caldari? Is it hate? Greed? Because the state only wants 2 things from the Federation and thats caldari prime, and peace. The Caldari state has never wanted peace. Every eruption of this bloody conflict has been catalysed by the Caldari. Once upon a time, the Gallente and Caldari lived side by side in peace. After the Gallente had brought the Caldari through a technological uplift, they became a founding member of what would eventually become the Federation. Fast forward quite a bit of time and it turns out that the Caldari are disgruntled with the Federation. Why? They don't have as big a population as other members of the democratic Federation, so they don't get as much of a seat. In their search for power, they begin building colonies in secret. Many of them. An entire empire, built in secrecy from the rest of the Federation. Then another ship stumbles across a Caldari military installation, and pandemonium. What do you expect people to think of you when they discover you've been building a military in secret? What do you expect them to do when you secede from a previously peaceful and prosperous relationship and raze a city after they discover you've built a military in secret? The Caldari state has always wanted power. The Federation was content to sit behind Tripwire and leave the Caldari alone, leading to an uneasy peace for hundreds of years. Then the Caldari broke it as they jumped supercapitals in and the most recent incarnation of the war broke out as they invaded hundreds of star systems and occupied a world with a majority Gallente population that had been Gallentean for two hundred years. Did you expect respect for your ancestral homeworld? Hypocrisy. You auctioned the ancestral homeworld of the Intaki, after brutally occupying it. So let me ask you, you who would claim to want peace. What is it that drives the State? Hate? Greed? It is both of those things. I fight for the Federation because I don't want to let a terrorist state have their way with my people. You mock our freedoms while you slave away under megacorporations, unwilling to see that the freedom we have is far greater than that in any other empire. Ours is the most diverse and free population in New Eden. We are not the Amarrians, who use slaves. We are not the Caldari, who are corporate slaves. We bankroll the Minmatar Republic because we believe people should be free to choose for themselves. The Federation does not demand mandatory military service of its people. It does not throw them away as numbers on a spreadsheet. It asks them, and they have a choice. My choice is to continue protecting those who cannot protect themselves. I had a change of heart, I'm allying myself with the Federation I should beat anyone who believed that... Let's start off with your claim about Caldari Prime originally being Gallente held It was inhabited by many harsh years by the Caldari before you had made note of us. We were just uniting if I remember correctly. Next our greed for power We built in secret, yes, but we did it not for power, but instead to preserve our culture. You found out and we then tried to succeed, but an extremist group bombed one of your cities killing over half a million people, and you responded with force as you had every right to. You invaded with an orbital bombardment which if I have read right would endanger countless of both sides, more innocent than anything else. We then distracted your navy for the time it took to evacuate the innocents. One of our admirals 'heroically sacrificed' himself in what you call the Hueromont Incident. Also little bonus, we had colonies and resources, not a military if I remember correctly (I'm reading the damn wiki while writing this!) Now to your question: What drives the empire? Well for one, the desire to better itself, and two, we want to be culturally pure. (We want to keep our culture pure) On to the part about us being slaves, we are not slaves, we work hard, yes we do, but working hard just makes you a stronger individual, not a slaves. We work for the future of the state not for our own personal goals. In fact we are characterized by being diligence and unselfish, hard working, and dutiful. You are selfish, we are not. We are happy to serve, and we must have soldiers. So now I ask you to stop twisting facts and mixing them with propaganda. Thank you for the time spent reading the truth. P.S I put little to no propaganda in this so do not come back at me with propaganda and say my words are propaganda. *For The State!*
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 230	Posted - 2014.11.14 07:27:00 - [30] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: Gallente propaganda did a number on you You can dismiss truth as propaganda all you like, it won't change the fact that you fight for a state that has literally had a government of terrorists. (Funny how the United States is the same way, but is Democratic and not a corperate dictatorship.) Terrorists? You mean the extremist group that isn't affiliated with the governing body? *For The State!*

Jacques Cayton II Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1068	Posted - 2014.11.14 15:22:00 - [31] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: Gallente propaganda did a number on you You can dismiss truth as propaganda all you like, it won't change the fact that you fight for a state that has literally had a government of terrorists. Do you really understand what a terrorist government is? Tibus heths government was all about preserving the Caldari and getting caldari prime back. A real terrorist government would have killed every gallente on Caldari Prime and within the state. But instead were detained for their own protection. Without force we wouldn't have been able to get Caldari Prime back. Now say the roles were switched and gallente Prime was under caldari rule, but no matter how you ask their government wont hand it over. What would you do to reclaim your home? We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 19089	Posted - 2014.11.14 18:56:00 - [32] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Let's start off with your claim about Caldari Prime originally being Gallente held It was inhabited by many harsh years by the Caldari before you had made note of us. We were just uniting if I remember correctly. I never said that. I stated that for two hundred years it was a sovereign Gallente world, and the population is majority Gallente. This is entirely correct - after the first war, the planet was held by the Federation for two hundred years. There are more Gallenteans who call that planet home than Caldari. Quote: Next our greed for power We built in secret, yes, but we did it not for power, but instead to preserve our culture. You found out and we then tried to succeed, but an extremist group bombed one of your cities killing over half a million people, and you responded with force as you had every right to. You invaded with an orbital bombardment which if I have read right would endanger countless of both sides, more innocent than anything else. We then distracted your navy for the time it took to evacuate the innocents. One of our admirals 'heroically sacrificed' himself in what you call the Hueromont Incident. Also little bonus, we had colonies and resources, not a military if I remember correctly (I'm reading the damn wiki while writing this!) You did have a military. The secret colonies formed the backbone of it. It's no wonder that the Gallenteans had a collective heart attack when they stumbled across a massive secret military. Hiding colonies for 'cultural' reasons is one dubious thing, building a military force in secret is quite another. It's honestly a terrible shame that the tensions should have broken so violently. There was a real possibility of a peace settlement before Nouvelle Rouvenor. It's interesting that you should so repeatedly denounce the Templis Dragonaurs as extremists when they've literally run your government. Quote: Now to your question: What drives the empire? Well for one, the desire to better itself, and two, we want to be culturally pure. (We want to keep our culture pure) On to the part about us being slaves, we are not slaves, we work hard, yes we do, but working hard just makes you a stronger individual, not a slaves. We work for the future of the state not for our own personal goals. In fact we are characterized by being diligence and unselfish, hard working, and dutiful. You are selfish, we are not. I'm sorry, I actually had to suppress laughter while reading this. You think the megacorporations are all about the betterment of all, do you? Caldari politics are perhaps the most cut-throat, shadowy affairs of any of the empires. Your little list of values is very cute, but wildly inaccurate. The boardroom executives occupy their free time with whoring and wandering between their luxury resorts. The folks at Ishukone are the only people from the State I would believe capable of the values on your list - they have some fine people. Naturally, that resulted in them getting put under pressure by the Provists. To claim that your people are not selfish is wildly inaccurate. What is it that drives a man from the foundries to assassinating political rivals and ruling with an iron fist? Sure as hell wasn't a desire for the greater good. Heth was a lunatic, and the State's actions for the past few years have reflected that. His bloody legacy is a long way from being cleared up. Quote: We are happy to serve, and we must have soldiers. So now I ask you to stop twisting facts and mixing them with propaganda. Thank you for the time spent reading the truth. P.S I put little to no propaganda in this so do not come back at me with propaganda and say my words are propaganda. No matter how much you claim that your words are purely fact and not propaganda, that does not make them so. Twisting facts? I challenge you to find factual inaccuracies. The only ones you've attempted so far are due to your misunderstandings. Quote: Do you really understand what a terrorist government is? Tibus heths government was all about preserving the Caldari and getting caldari prime back. A real terrorist government would have killed every gallente on Caldari Prime and within the state. But instead were detained for their own protection. Without force we wouldn't have been able to get Caldari Prime back. Now say the roles were switched and gallente Prime was under caldari rule, but no matter how you ask their government wont hand it over. What would you do to reclaim your home? Tibus Heth's government was the harshest rule in New Eden, and I include the Empire in that assessment. The Templis Dragonaurs, who you keep claiming were just an edge extremist group, comprised a significant portion of your government. You literally had terrorists in your government, reignited an age old war as the aggressors, and threatened the glassing of billions while beginning a military crackdown on a majority Gallentean population. How, exactly, is that not terrorism? Do you consider it justified because Caldari Prime was your home? Do you believe that people should show respect because of that? When you took the Intaki homeworld, you auctioned it. And you expect people to respect a claim outdated by centuries to a world that doesn't even have that many of your people on it? The people there rioted when you invaded their planet and started martial law. The people who actually lived there never wanted you there. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Currently challenging CCP Rattati for the queef
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 4543	Posted - 2014.11.14 19:48:00 - [33] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: We are not the Amarrians, who use the word slaves. Ftfy. The difference is semantics, though outright torture is generally frowned upon... by the Amarr. (The godfather of tactical logistics)
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 259	Posted - 2014.11.14 20:40:00 - [34] - Quote @Ark I'm no fan of Tibus Heth, he was a lunatic. I help myself justify helping the Gallente in Caldari Prime a bit by reminding myself that Tibus Heth was who he was. Also, my apologies, I misunderstood you. I'm sorry, what? I must have been listening to a lot of (CCP's) Propaganda to ignore the obvious, My apologies again. Wait, back up and explain when the Dragonaurs is aligned with our government. Is it like the Black Eagles being connected to your government (Who kills innocents, kidnaps innocents and tortures innocents. 'for the greater good') or do you know? I never said anything about the Megacorporation, I was talking about the Soldiers and the Civilians. Yes, Heth was a dog that needs to be put down, sadly he may be alive. (Another failure on the Feds part?) We did what? why? I... Damn it. (Lol in IGS, Raven happens to be Intaki and Civire) Okay, fine we have a great deal of bad, but you can not say the same. As of your challenge, give me a second (Where did you find the part about the Intaki homeworld?) I'll have answers soon. *For The State!*
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 19093	Posted - 2014.11.14 20:42:00 - [35] - Quote The Templis Dragonaurs backed Heth's rule. The Intaki homeworld debacle is a few years old now, luckily it was liberated by Gallente forces before much could happen. I suggest you read thoroughly up on the lore instead of bring the wiki up for arguments, though. I guarantee you that you'll get a much better picture of things. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Currently challenging CCP Rattati for the queef
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 259	Posted - 2014.11.14 20:53:00 - [36] - Quote Yes, okay. Gallente Tyuui... *For The State!*
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 19093	Posted - 2014.11.14 20:56:00 - [37] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Yes, okay. Gallente Tyuui... Baka. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Currently challenging CCP Rattati for the queef
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 259	Posted - 2014.11.14 21:19:00 - [38] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Yes, okay. Gallente Tyuui... Baka. Kim vanni? *Pal'Ahm kim kama'Ahm*
Middas Betancore Kirjuun Heiian 179	Posted - 2014.11.17 04:32:00 - [39] - Quote Resigned my post at Kirjuun Heiian, done with any further attempt of "leadership/organisation" of CFW Blame/Claim what you like, it's mainly a "people thing" Channel is still open for those that wanna use it Moderator is: Darnoch Naari Good luck, have fun Mercenary for hire
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 297	Posted - 2014.11.17 04:39:00 - [40] - Quote Middas Betancore wrote: Resigned my post at Kirjuun Heiian, done with any further attempt of "leadership/organisation" of CFW Blame/Claim what you like, it's mainly a "people thing" Channel is still open for those that wanna use it Moderator is: Darnoch Naari Good luck, have fun Such a shame... Good luck on your future endeavors unless they are against the state (your sig) Who happens to be the CEO now? *Love your enemy for he toughens you.* *Love your state for it protects you* *Love your work*

MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1628	Posted - 2014.11.17 04:43:00 - [41] - Quote I will be resuming as CEO in the interim. KH will remain taxless and open for people who want to join Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 8486	Posted - 2014.11.17 04:45:00 - [42] - Quote Middas Betancore wrote: Resigned my post at Kirjuun Heiian, done with any further attempt of "leadership/organisation" of CFW Blame/Claim what you like, it's mainly a "people thing" I tried for about a year... Channel is still open for those that wanna use it Moderator is: Darnoch Naari Good luck, have fun The biggest hindrance to the Caldari's success in FW in themselves I've noticed. I as hopping you guys got over this when Z platoon started fading away but I guess a new problem has arised. Oh well.... The Gallente Train is still truckin'! CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
Middas Betancore Kirjuun Heiian 179	Posted - 2014.11.17 04:48:00 - [43] - Quote Z platoon kinda just splintered, AKIRA is the new face, still the same poor attitudes Mercenary for hire
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 298	Posted - 2014.11.17 04:50:00 - [44] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Middas Betancore wrote: Resigned my post at Kirjuun Heiian, done with any further attempt of "leadership/organisation" of CFW Blame/Claim what you like, it's mainly a "people thing" I tried for about a year... Channel is still open for those that wanna use it Moderator is: Darnoch Naari Good luck, have fun The biggest hindrance to the Caldari's success in FW in themselves I've noticed. I was hoping you guys got over this when Z platoon started fading away but I guess a new problem has arisen. 1, FTFY 2, You seem happy... 3, I'm not sure what you were implying with the train bit, but I'd highly appreciate it if you refrain from insulting anyone/The Caldari. *Love your enemy for he toughens you.* *Love your state for it protects you* *Love your work*
jNs Vit4l Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION 54	Posted - 2014.11.17 05:25:00 - [45] - Quote Middas Betancore wrote: Z platoon kinda just splintered, AKIRA is the new face, still the same poor attitudes Im sure someone or someones will try some kinda leadership thing Just was no fun at all, burning away game time arguing with childish and intolerable...people Sucks cos PIE seems to work so well, not to be...at least not for me Il most likely still play caldari as it's still my character /End words/rant Lol, what are you talking about. Z Platoon 13 is up and running everyday. As far as the "burning away game time arguing with childish people", hmm I bet you weren't in z platoon with all the '"old" veteran player qsyncs. "God, grand me the serenity to accept the things that I cannot change and the courage to change the things that I can"
Middas Betancore Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 179	Posted - 2014.11.17 05:36:00 - [46] - Quote The one thing soooo many forget, is z platoon came from what I created before it, not gonna argue about the denials etc The players in z were mostly a huge headache, a handful of ppl I got on with Meh either way, most of the time im getting vexed over peoples unwarranted attitude problems, not worth it Just frak it, im done, no big deal Mercenary for hire
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 4560	Posted - 2014.11.17 05:40:00 - [47] - Quote The 2 posts about kinda reinforce what Kirk is saying to an extent, I'm afraid. The empire is always willing to help your cause but certainly a house divided will always fall. (The godfather of tactical logistics)


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