DUST Search - Soloing sucks now

DUST Fiend wrote:

RayRay James wrote:

DUST Fiend wrote:

RayRay James wrote:

DUST Fiend wrote:

Or just add in a solo only game type and be done with it.

Sure, break the entire intention of the game.

The entire intentionof the game was to battle across sprawling planets and directly impact EVE.

Adding a game type that you never have to touch won't bring this house of cards crashing down.

Except for adding another game type with so few players makes it harder for everyone to get in a game.

Suck it up solo or play as a team.

I solo play all the time, because I have a 2 year old and a wife, and I don't want to screw up a squad if I have to bail. I still get top of the leaderboard in a fair amount of matches.

Ever think player retention might go up if noobs had a mode where proto squads couldn't exist? No one cares how good you do, it's about giving players options to play in a somewhat even environment. This boosts enjoyment for those who like the game type, and in turn, boosts player count.

Ive played solo since early beta, almost exclusively. I couldn't care less. New players who get raked over the coals by qsynced proto squads...they may care.

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zzZaXxx Vengeance Unbound 649	Posted - 2014.11.11 17:42:00 - [1] - Quote Blueberries get rolled by organized squads. Matchmaking got screwed in some way by changes? Please fix it. I like soloing but this is an obvious pattern now. Please readjust Mu or something. Squads working together and pushing as a group versus a team of scattered blues with no communication is not balanced. EDIT: And I don't actually like soloing as much as squadding but often that's my only option.
Piercing Serenity PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 680	Posted - 2014.11.11 18:51:00 - [2] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: Blueberries get rolled by organized squads. Matchmaking got screwed in some way by changes? Please fix it. I like soloing but this is an obvious pattern now. Please readjust Mu or something. Squads working together and pushing as a group versus a team of scattered blues with no communication is not balanced. EDIT: And I don't actually like soloing as much as squadding but often that's my only option. This (bold) is stronger than even the best 16 uncoordinated players in the game. DUST is primarily a team-based game, and a difficult one at that. If you don't want to get rolled, squad up. If you want an easier time playing, then play an easier game. Since my corp disbanded, I have run solo exclusively. There are matches I enter where I just get ganked. But because choosing to use (or not use) the squad finder is my own choice, there is no one to blame for getting stomped but myself. Roll in a squad, use squad finder, or tough it out. You have options. Use them. Closed Beta Vet (E3 Build), Former PFBHz Best Corps Battled (Personally): Imperfects, TeamPlayers, Hellstorm
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 15016	Posted - 2014.11.11 18:54:00 - [3] - Quote Or just add in a solo only game type and be done with it. Logistics Vehicles Bitter Vet extraordinaire, vehicle specialist, sarcastic prick
1913 DfLo ScReWeD uP InC 63	Posted - 2014.11.11 18:57:00 - [4] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Or just add in a solo only game type and be done with it. That sounds fair *ScReWeD uP InC* *BPO's Link Inside*
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 4675	Posted - 2014.11.11 18:59:00 - [5] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Or just add in a solo only game type and be done with it. I would love this so hard. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 5893	Posted - 2014.11.11 19:01:00 - [6] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Or just add in a solo only game type and be done with it. It's not like this hasn't been promoted by myself and many others many times before. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
G Felix 125	Posted - 2014.11.11 19:02:00 - [7] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Or just add in a solo only game type and be done with it. This is suggested often as a cure for imbalanced matches, but the player base for DUST is already quite small, and fracturing it further would create even longer matchmaking times and mean seeing more of the same faces every fight. Imagine if queuing into every match took as long as FW matches take. The player base would shrink even further. Simply put, soloing is hard mode. That's why there's the squad finder and corporations. Dust can be frustrating. (Gò»°Gûí°)Gò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+)
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 5893	Posted - 2014.11.11 19:03:00 - [8] - Quote Piercing Serenity wrote: This (bold) is stronger than even the best 16 uncoordinated players in the game. DUST is primarily a team-based game, and a difficult one at that. Compared to other shooters Dust is definitely not the most difficult. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
RayRay James Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION 711	Posted - 2014.11.11 19:17:00 - [9] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Or just add in a solo only game type and be done with it. Sure, break the entire intention of the game.
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1110	Posted - 2014.11.11 19:23:00 - [10] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: Blueberries get rolled by organized squads. Matchmaking got screwed in some way by changes? Please fix it. I like soloing but this is an obvious pattern now. Please readjust Mu or something. Squads working together and pushing as a group versus a team of scattered blues with no communication is not balanced. EDIT: And I don't actually like soloing as much as squadding but often that's my only option. Agreed matchmaking feels far worse than before. Its like you lose a couple of matches and get stuck on the winning team then win a few and get stuck on the losing team leaving an obvious back and forth. The same even happens to some extent with squads but not to the same extremes. Rest assured tho if you win a tough match with a squad you will be up against 16 of the toughest enemies Scotty can find on the next one. We have joked many times that you would be better off afking every other match just so you do not get stuck in the pending steam roll Scotty will attempt to hand you.

DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 15018	Posted - 2014.11.11 19:25:00 - [11] - Quote RayRay James wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Or just add in a solo only game type and be done with it. Sure, break the entire intention of the game. The entire intentionof the game was to battle across sprawling planets and directly impact EVE. Adding a game type that you never have to touch won't bring this house of cards crashing down. Logistics Vehicles Bitter Vet extraordinaire, vehicle specialist, sarcastic prick
Louis Domi Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 771	Posted - 2014.11.11 19:27:00 - [12] - Quote I do ok as a solo artist, I will occasionally jump in a random squad and run logi. (solo logi is the saddest **** to me) Only thing bad about soloing is you cant get a solo OB.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5234	Posted - 2014.11.11 19:30:00 - [13] - Quote I actually do better solo. When squaded you've got the MU plus the squad "penalty". I think it's set to default to send all players out of the academy to be my teammates if I'm online. I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
RayRay James Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION 711	Posted - 2014.11.11 19:34:00 - [14] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: RayRay James wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Or just add in a solo only game type and be done with it. Sure, break the entire intention of the game. The entire intentionof the game was to battle across sprawling planets and directly impact EVE. Adding a game type that you never have to touch won't bring this house of cards crashing down. Except for adding another game type with so few players makes it harder for everyone to get in a game. Suck it up solo or play as a team. I solo play all the time, because I have a 2 year old and a wife, and I don't want to screw up a squad if I have to bail. I still get top of the leaderboard in a fair amount of matches.
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 15019	Posted - 2014.11.11 19:39:00 - [15] - Quote RayRay James wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: RayRay James wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Or just add in a solo only game type and be done with it. Sure, break the entire intention of the game. The entire intentionof the game was to battle across sprawling planets and directly impact EVE. Adding a game type that you never have to touch won't bring this house of cards crashing down. Except for adding another game type with so few players makes it harder for everyone to get in a game. Suck it up solo or play as a team. I solo play all the time, because I have a 2 year old and a wife, and I don't want to screw up a squad if I have to bail. I still get top of the leaderboard in a fair amount of matches. Ever think player retention might go up if noobs had a mode where proto squads couldn't exist? No one cares how good you do, it's about giving players options to play in a somewhat even environment. This boosts enjoyment for those who like the game type, and in turn, boosts player count. Ive played solo since early beta, almost exclusively. I couldn't care less. New players who get raked over the coals by qsynced proto squads...they may care. Logistics Vehicles Bitter Vet extraordinaire, vehicle specialist, sarcastic prick
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 4523	Posted - 2014.11.11 20:32:00 - [16] - Quote I prefer my sucking to be done solo, anyways.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 5347	Posted - 2014.11.11 20:34:00 - [17] - Quote Joel II X wrote: I prefer my sucking to be done solo, anyways. Umm <.< >.> GÇª. I don't know what to sayGÇª ummm MOAR Ladders
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 5784	Posted - 2014.11.11 20:49:00 - [18] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Joel II X wrote: I prefer my sucking to be done solo, anyways. Umm <.< >.> GÇª. I don't know what to sayGÇª ummm I wonder what ever happened to the more the merrier. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
Kaeru Nayiri OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 156	Posted - 2014.11.11 20:56:00 - [19] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: zzZaXxx wrote: Blueberries get rolled by organized squads. Matchmaking got screwed in some way by changes? Please fix it. I like soloing but this is an obvious pattern now. Please readjust Mu or something. Squads working together and pushing as a group versus a team of scattered blues with no communication is not balanced. EDIT: And I don't actually like soloing as much as squadding but often that's my only option. Agreed matchmaking feels far worse than before. Its like you lose a couple of matches and get stuck on the winning team then win a few and get stuck on the losing team leaving an obvious back and forth. The same even happens to some extent with squads but not to the same extremes. Rest assured tho if you win a tough match with a squad you will be up against 16 of the toughest enemies Scotty can find on the next one. We have joked many times that you would be better off afking every other match just so you do not get stuck in the pending steam roll Scotty will attempt to hand you. You realize MU is based on average. It doesn't change much (if at all) after a single match. This is all just in your heads.
RayRay James Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION 714	Posted - 2014.11.11 21:02:00 - [20] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: RayRay James wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: RayRay James wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Or just add in a solo only game type and be done with it. Sure, break the entire intention of the game. The entire intentionof the game was to battle across sprawling planets and directly impact EVE. Adding a game type that you never have to touch won't bring this house of cards crashing down. Except for adding another game type with so few players makes it harder for everyone to get in a game. Suck it up solo or play as a team. I solo play all the time, because I have a 2 year old and a wife, and I don't want to screw up a squad if I have to bail. I still get top of the leaderboard in a fair amount of matches. Ever think player retention might go up if noobs had a mode where proto squads couldn't exist? No one cares how good you do, it's about giving players options to play in a somewhat even environment. This boosts enjoyment for those who like the game type, and in turn, boosts player count. Ive played solo since early beta, almost exclusively. I couldn't care less. New players who get raked over the coals by qsynced proto squads...they may care. No I don't think turning off squads would increase player retention. I think it would make the forums worse and I think it would make the game worse.

Operative 1174 Uuali The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 55	Posted - 2014.11.11 21:13:00 - [21] - Quote Piercing Serenity wrote: zzZaXxx wrote: Blueberries get rolled by organized squads. Matchmaking got screwed in some way by changes? Please fix it. I like soloing but this is an obvious pattern now. Please readjust Mu or something. Squads working together and pushing as a group versus a team of scattered blues with no communication is not balanced. EDIT: And I don't actually like soloing as much as squadding but often that's my only option. This (bold) is stronger than even the best 16 uncoordinated players in the game. DUST is primarily a team-based game, and a difficult one at that. If you don't want to get rolled, squad up. If you want an easier time playing, then play an easier game. Since my corp disbanded, I have run solo exclusively. There are matches I enter where I just get ganked. But because choosing to use (or not use) the squad finder is my own choice, there is no one to blame for getting stomped but myself. Roll in a squad, use squad finder, or tough it out. You have options. Use them. Teamwork has nothing to do with whether the team is made up of randoms or solo and organized pre-mades. Matchmaking can be split between solo random am pre-made squads and still allow for teamwork as the advantage to winning. They are two different types and lvel of teamwork. I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui VEHICLEBUSTERS Demolitions and Logistics Corp . 1377	Posted - 2014.11.11 21:35:00 - [22] - Quote Funny that were talking about this when , Rattati ... not to long ago made a post where he talked about changes that would not segregate the solo players but here we are having this discussion and talking about how a solo game mode would break this game . I personally don't think so and that would be a good thing for the NPE and lone wolf players . Wish I had the link but it just seems like it was all a ploy . Solo play is crap and does suffer and you would find more playing solo then playing in a squad seeing as how in a pub you find a lot of players who get thrown into a match that's clearly not in a squad and or a corporation . Could it be that a squad play only mode wouldn't be as popular ???? I think that you have a lot who play this game , that's afraid of competition and that's part of the reason for proto stomping and squad stomping as well . Would be nice to see how a mode like such would be popular besides playing PC and FW . I think pubs should be nothing but random players put together , q-syncing pubs is just scrubby . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 4529	Posted - 2014.11.11 22:40:00 - [23] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Llast 326 wrote: Joel II X wrote: I prefer my sucking to be done solo, anyways. Umm <.< >.> GÇª. I don't know what to sayGÇª ummm I wonder what ever happened to the more the merrier. Have you no shame?
TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 1335	Posted - 2014.11.11 22:49:00 - [24] - Quote the squad finder is full of ppl demanding the use of mic but none of them use it for running tactics it's just mumbling and random men crying, some really bad music, a baby crying in the back ground, and every once in a while you get some semi entertaining domestic violence if your lucky. AKA Zirzo Valcyn AFKing since 2012
xavier zor G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 202	Posted - 2014.11.11 23:28:00 - [25] - Quote MU level has nothing to do with this problem. Team balancing does though (which uses MU) 32 people search for a match. They all get put into the same one. A squad is in there as well. Say the whole squad collectively has an average MU of 44 (highest MU is 105.2). Team balancing will match the squad with 6 other players, could be 2 proto-stompers with 4 blueberries or 6 decent guys, to average 44. Then the rest of the players are dispersed among the 2 teams. The 6 people meant to match up with the squad play solo, don't watch each other's backs and can't plot coordinated attacks. The squad can THIS is why matches are one-sided Highest plasma cannon kill: 132 metres
Wilhelm Klingspor DUST University Ivy League 292	Posted - 2014.11.11 23:59:00 - [26] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: I do ok as a solo artist, I will occasionally jump in a random squad and run logi. (solo logi is the saddest ** to me) Only thing bad about soloing is you cant get a solo OB. Not if ratatti has is way i believe, he had some thoughts about mini ob's i think. GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ DON'T PANIC** GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui VEHICLEBUSTERS Demolitions and Logistics Corp . 1380	Posted - 2014.11.12 00:45:00 - [27] - Quote Wilhelm Klingspor wrote: Louis Domi wrote: I do ok as a solo artist, I will occasionally jump in a random squad and run logi. (solo logi is the saddest ** to me) Only thing bad about soloing is you cant get a solo OB. Not if ratatti has is way i believe, he had some thoughts about mini ob's i think. Why give a frack about OB's if the match suck , that's just a cop out .. OB's are a crutch . I was so glad for the changes instead of getting spammed by a team and their OB's while their winning . Just a sign of weakness and unreliability on their team and it's tactics IMHO . I just don't get all of this OB crying . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .**
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 6113	Posted - 2014.11.28 04:47:00 - [28] - Quote Playing solo is definitely a lot harder in 1.9 then it ever was before. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Kaze Eyrou Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1023	Posted - 2014.11.28 06:58:00 - [29] - Quote Joel II X wrote: I prefer my sucking to be done solo, anyways. Joel II X - 2014 Never forget. CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou CIO ("Proto Forum Warrior") Learning Coalition & RTG
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5120	Posted - 2014.11.28 07:09:00 - [30] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Or just add in a solo only game type and be done with it. I would love this so hard. Quite literally everyone who solo's would use this instead. Then you would end up with squads entering games, and no solo'rs would be left to fill in the team slots. That would be the reality. It's my fault FA exists. Direct your rage to me.



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