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Operative 1174 Uuali
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.11.28 07:27:00 -
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Piercing Serenity wrote:zzZaXxx wrote:Blueberries get rolled by organized squads. Matchmaking got screwed in some way by changes? Please fix it. I like soloing but this is an obvious pattern now. Please readjust Mu or something. Squads working together and pushing as a group versus a team of scattered blues with no communication is not balanced.
EDIT: And I don't actually like soloing as much as squadding but often that's my only option. This (bold) is stronger than even the best 16 uncoordinated players in the game. DUST is primarily a team-based game, and a difficult one at that. If you don't want to get rolled, squad up. If you want an easier time playing, then play an easier game. Since my corp disbanded, I have run solo exclusively. There are matches I enter where I just get ganked. But because choosing to use (or not use) the squad finder is my own choice, there is no one to blame for getting stomped but myself. Roll in a squad, use squad finder, or tough it out. You have options. Use them.
No, wrong! Team play has nothing ro do with squad makeup. You can have a team based game between two solo queued teams and then you can have a premade squad based play. A team made up of only solo can still be a team based game. Winning would therefore only depend on what the team is made up of.
I'd like to see pubs with no premades and no comms to provide the new or casual solo player with an even playing field. Then, premades will have to go against premades, woth comms and not be able to stomp for WP.
I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
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Jathniel
G I A N T
1305
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Posted - 2014.11.28 07:43:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Or just add in a solo only game type and be done with it. I would love this so hard. Quite literally everyone who solo's would use this instead. Then you would end up with squads entering games, and no solo'rs would be left to fill in the team slots. That would be the reality.
Which means every squad game is essentially....
*drum roll*
An old-school style Corp Battle!
(Maybe increase isk payout for squad-only matches a little, since they are practically guaranteed to run each other bankrupt.)
I currently solo. Occasionally, I would be joined by a fellow GIANT, but the others are playing EVE and Destiny, and everything else cept for Dust. So, I solo. I love squads! I adore them! But MOST of the time, I get into a good squad and we run numerous great matches, the moment we hit just ONE bad match, everyone disbands. Everyone flakes. We could go 10 wins, 20 wins, everyone is fine. If we suffer 1 bad loss, everyone quits.
Players take dying or losing a match way too hard and/or personally.
A solo-only or "pairs-only" mode would be a nice stepping stone for people that probably solo'd their way through the Academy.
Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
5120
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Posted - 2014.11.28 07:46:00 -
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Jathniel wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Or just add in a solo only game type and be done with it. I would love this so hard. Quite literally everyone who solo's would use this instead. Then you would end up with squads entering games, and no solo'rs would be left to fill in the team slots. That would be the reality. Which means every squad game is essentially.... *drum roll* An old-school style Corp Battle! (Maybe increase isk payout for squad-only matches a little, since they are practically guaranteed to run each other bankrupt.) I currently solo. Occasionally, I would be joined by a fellow GIANT, but the others are playing EVE and Destiny, and everything else cept for Dust. So, I solo. I love squads! I adore them! But MOST of the time, I get into a good squad and we run numerous great matches, the moment we hit just ONE bad match, everyone disbands. Everyone flakes. We could go 10 wins, 20 wins, everyone is fine. If we suffer 1 bad loss, everyone quits. Players take dying or losing a match way too hard and/or personally. A solo-only mode would help.
Rattati has hinted towards a full team mode that isn't PC. So what you are suggesting would not only break the primary game, but be entirely unnecessary.
It's my fault FA exists. Direct your rage to me.
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Jathniel
G I A N T
1305
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Posted - 2014.11.28 08:18:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:
Rattati has hinted towards a full team mode that isn't PC. So what you are suggesting would not only break the primary game, but be entirely unnecessary.
Clearly, it won't "break the primary game" if Rattati has already suggested it.
A specific solo-only mode need not break anything. Just do a filter system like the one we have now that handles Bush, Dom, and Skirm.
Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
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Clone D
Grundstein Automation
876
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Posted - 2014.11.28 12:11:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Or just add in a solo only game type and be done with it.
+1
I have always wanted this.
I cannot effectively play on a squad because when I activate voice, my system lags terribly.
When I run solo, I do really well, until I get steamrolled by a roaming squad, and they move in so quickly that there's no escape.
If a solo game type were added, I would run that EXCLUSIVELY, and I'm certain that many others would as well.
This game type would most likely become the new choice PUB type. Great for NPE, too.
ISK Trader
channel: blitz
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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
2668
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Posted - 2014.11.28 12:14:00 -
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I love difficulties! I'm now lonewolfing more than ever!!
Dust Loyalist
Greedy Bastards
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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
2668
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Posted - 2014.11.28 12:15:00 -
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Winning without difficulties = winning without glory.
Dust Loyalist
Greedy Bastards
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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
2668
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Posted - 2014.11.28 12:16:00 -
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Dat feeling
Dust Loyalist
Greedy Bastards
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Ryme Intrinseca
Dead Man's Game RUST415
2093
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Posted - 2014.11.28 13:05:00 -
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Soloing is terrible now. Used to be the case that if your team was getting stomped you could still run around and have fun. But now the teams are so unbalanced this is impossible as you immediately have the entire enemy team on you.
Meanwhile, if youre in a squad its an instant win, and hard even to find anyone to shoot at.
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
2351
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Posted - 2014.11.28 14:50:00 -
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Piercing Serenity wrote:zzZaXxx wrote:Blueberries get rolled by organized squads. Matchmaking got screwed in some way by changes? Please fix it. I like soloing but this is an obvious pattern now. Please readjust Mu or something. Squads working together and pushing as a group versus a team of scattered blues with no communication is not balanced.
EDIT: And I don't actually like soloing as much as squadding but often that's my only option. This (bold) is stronger than even the best 16 uncoordinated players in the game. DUST is primarily a team-based game, and a difficult one at that. If you don't want to get rolled, squad up. If you want an easier time playing, then play an easier game. Since my corp disbanded, I have run solo exclusively. There are matches I enter where I just get ganked. But because choosing to use (or not use) the squad finder is my own choice, there is no one to blame for getting stomped but myself. Roll in a squad, use squad finder, or tough it out. You have options. Use them. ^ This. Love the fights against organized, but insecure, proto squads, rough as they might be for a solo minmatar.
And when that shared squad vision goes, they'll be doing a little more dyin' and i'll be doing a little more dancing on their shiny corpses.
PSN: RationalSpark
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
5963
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Posted - 2014.11.28 15:17:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:Blueberries get rolled by organized squads. Matchmaking got screwed in some way by changes? Please fix it. I like soloing but this is an obvious pattern now. Please readjust Mu or something. Squads working together and pushing as a group versus a team of scattered blues with no communication is not balanced.
EDIT: And I don't actually like soloing as much as squadding but often that's my only option.
95% of the time, im running solo.
As a solo player , playing FW for me is just impossible. - Berries get stomped by corps like Prima Gallicus or Molon Labe all the time. - Stomping is so bad that 90% of the time i dont see a single blue berry on my tac net map...sometimes not even on my line of vision. - The lack of ISK payout and the lack of LP points payed for a player that sacrifices all to try to win are more than enough for me to never play FW. (well i need a squad, i'll post something about tha soon) -In pub matches, since i play skirm i have a little more chance. At least if im getting proto stomped i can take out my proto an defend at least 1 objective.
The thing is, TEAMWORK should be powerful but not OP. The problem i that in DUST 2 of WHATEVER is stronger than 1 of the ''best''.
I mean, if you run your PROTO fits , you can easily be bested by 2 MLT fits if they are working together. Sounds like its working as intended no?
So what happens when 6 players are using PROTO and running together vs a team for RANDOMS?
Exactly. PROTOSTOMP.
but all and all, meh. I dont care. I still have fun . But im poor so someone give me Iskies.
The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT....
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Powerh8er
The Rainbow Effect
561
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Posted - 2014.11.28 15:32:00 -
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
5336
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Posted - 2014.11.28 17:43:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:Piercing Serenity wrote:zzZaXxx wrote:Blueberries get rolled by organized squads. Matchmaking got screwed in some way by changes? Please fix it. I like soloing but this is an obvious pattern now. Please readjust Mu or something. Squads working together and pushing as a group versus a team of scattered blues with no communication is not balanced.
EDIT: And I don't actually like soloing as much as squadding but often that's my only option. This (bold) is stronger than even the best 16 uncoordinated players in the game. DUST is primarily a team-based game, and a difficult one at that. If you don't want to get rolled, squad up. If you want an easier time playing, then play an easier game. Since my corp disbanded, I have run solo exclusively. There are matches I enter where I just get ganked. But because choosing to use (or not use) the squad finder is my own choice, there is no one to blame for getting stomped but myself. Roll in a squad, use squad finder, or tough it out. You have options. Use them. Teamwork has nothing to do with whether the team is made up of randoms or solo and organized pre-mades. Matchmaking can be split between solo random am pre-made squads and still allow for teamwork as the advantage to winning. They are two different types and lvel of teamwork.
Reading is hard
I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
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Ku Shala
The Generals
1032
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Posted - 2014.11.28 17:55:00 -
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squads wait 5- 10 minutes to play factional why not add a filter so squads can hold to play squads in pubs or quick match
-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (Caldari Specialist)
Caldari Loyalist
*Assault -Logistics-Sentinal-Scout-Commando Allround CK-0
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Union118
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
28
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Posted - 2014.11.28 18:49:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:Blueberries get rolled by organized squads. Matchmaking got screwed in some way by changes? Please fix it. I like soloing but this is an obvious pattern now. Please readjust Mu or something. Squads working together and pushing as a group versus a team of scattered blues with no communication is not balanced.
EDIT: And I don't actually like soloing as much as squadding but often that's my only option.
I solo all the time I do just fine.
Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
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Meee One
Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki
1345
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Posted - 2014.11.28 20:04:00 -
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As awesome as a solo mode would be it would have several drawbacks: -noobs wouldn't want to get in squads or develop lasting friendships/connections because they wouldn't need to -noobs wouldn't want to get in squads because they wouldn't see the advantages of doing so -most noobs would never leave solo mode -certain suits would always have advantages because they are designed to thrive solo (scouts,assaults,sents to a degree) -certain suits would always have disadvantages because they aren't designed to thrive solo (logistics,commandos) -this would effectively reduce or remove all new logistics and commandos. -lack of noobs teaming up = lack of new vets on the competitive scene -encourages 'one man army' style play
Benefits: -removes stomps -removes the absolute need for a squad -allows casuals more freedom and greater possibility of success
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V1RONXSS
X-SENSE Security
19
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Posted - 2014.11.28 20:17:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Or just add in a solo only game type and be done with it.
Solomode ftw. do it CCP, please. I want to play the game without any comms and since we will never get pve at least give us THIS.
P.S. Great prop mate.
The "Chiki Briki v Damki" Starter Pack.
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