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Michael Epic
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:08:00 -
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Lets admit it....CCP Rattati is awesome.
The job he's doing with Dust 514? Equally as awesome.
But what about the long wanted, long awaited, long false myth of the EVE to Dust isk transfer?
I think EVE should be allowed to transfer ISK to Dust...but it should come at a cost.
100,000,000 (One hundred million) ISK in EVE = 10,000,000 (Ten Million) and so on and so fourth.
Why is this not possible? Imagine the impact it would have on Dust. It would make both games a lot more fun and being able to manage your infantry character and capsuleer character would add a new dimension to EVE and Dust.
That would be easy too...literally I think all CCP would have to do is flip a switch and it would work. What do you think?
Should EVE and Dust be able to transfer ISK? Why or why not? If you believe yes, lets get this done!
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Pokey Dravon
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:12:00 -
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Contact Gyn Wallace, he has a player run Dust<->EVE Transfer service he runs.
Edit: Zing. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=111070
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Michael Epic
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:22:00 -
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That seems like a scam, honestly. |
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:23:00 -
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Countless people have used his service, feel free to ask around if you want confirmation.
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da GAND
Bloodline Rebellion
Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:23:00 -
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Ya it's been wanted for along time but meh that'll most likely come in Legion instead.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:24:00 -
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CCP has done more things to reduce economic exchange between Dust/EVE rather then improve it. So i don't think they would be interested in this.
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:25:00 -
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Michael Epic wrote:That seems like a scam, honestly.
I've used the service and it isn't a scam.
The conversion rates he offers are exceedingly better than those offered by others that I investigated.
In the end, I chose to go with Gyn Wallace
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:27:00 -
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Michael Epic wrote:Lets admit it....CCP Rattati is awesome.
The job he's doing with Dust 514? Equally as awesome.
But what about the long wanted, long awaited, long false myth of the EVE to Dust isk transfer?
I think EVE should be allowed to transfer ISK to Dust...but it should come at a cost.
100,000,000 (One hundred million) ISK in EVE = 10,000,000 (Ten Million) and so on and so fourth.
Why is this not possible? Imagine the impact it would have on Dust. It would make both games a lot more fun and being able to manage your infantry character and capsuleer character would add a new dimension to EVE and Dust.
That would be easy too...literally I think all CCP would have to do is flip a switch and it would work. What do you think?
Should EVE and Dust be able to transfer ISK? Why or why not? If you believe yes, lets get this done!
CCP Rattati MAKE IT HAPPEN!
it used to be in game before but corps like goons and even solo entities flooded dust with BILLIONS of isk basically meaning they could afford to permarun proto and lose them and even after years they would not have run out of isk..
i am against dust isk and eve isk intermingleing at its current stage.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:27:00 -
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Believe it or not, CCP did have plans for this as part of the "10-year-plan" that was marketed by them a long time ago. The logic is that Dust would first need to stabilize its fledgling economy and then grow to become self-sustainable like Eve Online which would then allow for a player-driven secondary market. At that point, once the ISK value of both Eve Online and Dust 514 have reached an equilibrium, the ISK transfer would then safely start.
But this was a long time ago before Fanfest 2014, before Legion was announced, before Rattati took control of Dust, before everything has changed basically.
Nowadays, I don't think an Eve-to-Dust ISK transfer would be possible given the mountain of changes being made to the development of Dust. Unless of course CCP Rattati can figure something out to keep it balanced.
One more thing. CCP does have the ability to just simply switch the ability to transfer on and off between an Eve and Dust player. I saw it first hand... by accident like everyone else did back in closed beta. This was back when Dust was running on Singularity (Test Server) instead of Tranquility (Live Server) back in 2012. CCP released an update during that time that changed a lot of things but didn't realize until about the next day that Dust players were able to transfer ISK on Singularity from their Eve accounts. CCP quickly scrambled to shut it off and it resulted in countless ISK flowing into Dust which screwed up the gameplay quite a bit with players protostomping like crazy match after match.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:28:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Michael Epic wrote:Lets admit it....CCP Rattati is awesome.
The job he's doing with Dust 514? Equally as awesome.
But what about the long wanted, long awaited, long false myth of the EVE to Dust isk transfer?
I think EVE should be allowed to transfer ISK to Dust...but it should come at a cost.
100,000,000 (One hundred million) ISK in EVE = 10,000,000 (Ten Million) and so on and so fourth.
Why is this not possible? Imagine the impact it would have on Dust. It would make both games a lot more fun and being able to manage your infantry character and capsuleer character would add a new dimension to EVE and Dust.
That would be easy too...literally I think all CCP would have to do is flip a switch and it would work. What do you think?
Should EVE and Dust be able to transfer ISK? Why or why not? If you believe yes, lets get this done!
CCP Rattati MAKE IT HAPPEN! it used to be in game before but corps like goons and even solo entities flooded dust with BILLIONS of isk basically meaning they could afford to permarun proto and lose them and even after years they would not have run out of isk.. i am against dust isk and eve isk intermingleing at its current stage.
All of that is incorrect.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:29:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:CCP has done more things to reduce economic exchange between Dust/EVE rather then improve it. So i don't think they would be interested in this. Michael Epic wrote:That seems like a scam, honestly. I've exchanged billions of Dust/EVE ISK through Gyn Wallace.
they stopped eve to dust isk because of the massive differance in isk gain/loss in dust vs isk farm in eve.. 30 mins in eve is like 30m+ and that would be enough for like.. 50+ proto fits and most even players sit on billions of isk anyway so imagine how bad the proto stomping would be if players could afford to perma run proto?
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Pokey Dravon
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:31:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:
it used to be in game before but corps like goons and even solo entities flooded dust with BILLIONS of isk basically meaning they could afford to permarun proto and lose them and even after years they would not have run out of isk..
i am against dust isk and eve isk intermingleing at its current stage.
Lol wut? None of that ever happened.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:31:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Michael Epic wrote:Lets admit it....CCP Rattati is awesome.
The job he's doing with Dust 514? Equally as awesome.
But what about the long wanted, long awaited, long false myth of the EVE to Dust isk transfer?
I think EVE should be allowed to transfer ISK to Dust...but it should come at a cost.
100,000,000 (One hundred million) ISK in EVE = 10,000,000 (Ten Million) and so on and so fourth.
Why is this not possible? Imagine the impact it would have on Dust. It would make both games a lot more fun and being able to manage your infantry character and capsuleer character would add a new dimension to EVE and Dust.
That would be easy too...literally I think all CCP would have to do is flip a switch and it would work. What do you think?
Should EVE and Dust be able to transfer ISK? Why or why not? If you believe yes, lets get this done!
CCP Rattati MAKE IT HAPPEN! it used to be in game before but corps like goons and even solo entities flooded dust with BILLIONS of isk basically meaning they could afford to permarun proto and lose them and even after years they would not have run out of isk.. i am against dust isk and eve isk intermingleing at its current stage. All of that is incorrect. Maybe in beta, but not on the live version of tranquility.
its not. i remember players moving massive amounts of isk into dust via corp wallets but ccp stepped in and wiped wallets... dust is in great need of another wallet wipe, personal and corp.. and give it a month and proto stomping may be much lower.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:33:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:
it used to be in game before but corps like goons and even solo entities flooded dust with BILLIONS of isk basically meaning they could afford to permarun proto and lose them and even after years they would not have run out of isk..
i am against dust isk and eve isk intermingleing at its current stage.
Lol wut? None of that ever happened.
it did. players could create a corp in eve put isk into corp wallet pass lead to dust bunny, dust bunny removes isk.. hell even one of my incursion runners in eve said he moved like 3b into dust (he is a titan/titan pilot trader so he has far too much isk)
ps. this bas back when it was last possable, not this recent time.
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Pokey Dravon
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:33:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:
its not. i remember players moving massive amounts of isk into dust via corp wallets but ccp stepped in and wiped wallets... dust is in great need of another wallet wipe, personal and corp.. and give it a month and proto stomping may be much lower.
Yeah it lasted like, a day before they went in and stopped it and erased all traces of it, so it was non issue.
You don't actually read what people post do you? Current conversation services are not 1 to 1. Currently 1 Dust ISK is worth 5.5 EVE ISK, so you're looking at a 80+% conversion penalty when trading EVE ISK for DUST ISK.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
10143
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:34:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:
it used to be in game before but corps like goons and even solo entities flooded dust with BILLIONS of isk basically meaning they could afford to permarun proto and lose them and even after years they would not have run out of isk..
i am against dust isk and eve isk intermingleing at its current stage.
Lol wut? None of that ever happened.
It did happen. Not on purpose at least. It was a miscoding on the part of CCP that accidentally flipped the switch on. CCP switched it off immediately after but it was too late.
I was there.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:35:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:
its not. i remember players moving massive amounts of isk into dust via corp wallets but ccp stepped in and wiped wallets... dust is in great need of another wallet wipe, personal and corp.. and give it a month and proto stomping may be much lower.
Yeah it lasted like, a day before they went in and stopped it and erased all traces of it, so it was non issue. You don't actually read what people post do you? Current conversation services are not 1 to 1. Currently 1 Dust ISK is worth 3-4 EVE ISK, so you're looking at a 75% conversion penalty when trading EVE ISK for DUST ISK.
there will be people rich enough and have the means to transfer it themselves.
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Pokey Dravon
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:35:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:
it used to be in game before but corps like goons and even solo entities flooded dust with BILLIONS of isk basically meaning they could afford to permarun proto and lose them and even after years they would not have run out of isk..
i am against dust isk and eve isk intermingleing at its current stage.
Lol wut? None of that ever happened. It did happen. Not on purpose at least. It was a miscoding on the part of CCP that accidentally flipped the switch on. CCP switched it off immediately after but it was too late. I was there.
And then they went in an cleared all transferred ISK and assets, so there was no trace of it.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
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Gentlemen's.Club
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:35:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Michael Epic wrote:Lets admit it....CCP Rattati is awesome.
The job he's doing with Dust 514? Equally as awesome.
But what about the long wanted, long awaited, long false myth of the EVE to Dust isk transfer?
I think EVE should be allowed to transfer ISK to Dust...but it should come at a cost.
100,000,000 (One hundred million) ISK in EVE = 10,000,000 (Ten Million) and so on and so fourth.
Why is this not possible? Imagine the impact it would have on Dust. It would make both games a lot more fun and being able to manage your infantry character and capsuleer character would add a new dimension to EVE and Dust.
That would be easy too...literally I think all CCP would have to do is flip a switch and it would work. What do you think?
Should EVE and Dust be able to transfer ISK? Why or why not? If you believe yes, lets get this done!
CCP Rattati MAKE IT HAPPEN! it used to be in game before but corps like goons and even solo entities flooded dust with BILLIONS of isk basically meaning they could afford to permarun proto and lose them and even after years they would not have run out of isk.. i am against dust isk and eve isk intermingleing at its current stage. All of that is incorrect. Maybe in beta, but not on the live version of tranquility. its not. i remember players moving massive amounts of isk into dust via corp wallets but ccp stepped in and wiped wallets... dust is in great need of another wallet wipe, personal and corp.. and give it a month and proto stomping may be much lower.
A ISK wipe would give players a reason to not trust CCP. Why should people invest in this game if it can be wiped at anytime.
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Pokey Dravon
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:37:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:
its not. i remember players moving massive amounts of isk into dust via corp wallets but ccp stepped in and wiped wallets... dust is in great need of another wallet wipe, personal and corp.. and give it a month and proto stomping may be much lower.
Yeah it lasted like, a day before they went in and stopped it and erased all traces of it, so it was non issue. You don't actually read what people post do you? Current conversation services are not 1 to 1. Currently 1 Dust ISK is worth 3-4 EVE ISK, so you're looking at a 75% conversion penalty when trading EVE ISK for DUST ISK. there will be people rich enough and have the means to transfer it themselves.
Ok you're not getting this. PEOPLE ALREADY DO THIS. They trade EVE ISK for Dust ISK. The transfer between the games is live and well. I'm CEO of the corp Gyn Wallace is in lol, I talk to him all the time, I'm very well aware of how much ISK is moved between the games. It happens every day, all the time.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:38:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:
it used to be in game before but corps like goons and even solo entities flooded dust with BILLIONS of isk basically meaning they could afford to permarun proto and lose them and even after years they would not have run out of isk..
i am against dust isk and eve isk intermingleing at its current stage.
Lol wut? None of that ever happened. It did happen. Not on purpose at least. It was a miscoding on the part of CCP that accidentally flipped the switch on. CCP switched it off immediately after but it was too late. I was there. And then they went in an cleared all transferred ISK and assets, so there was no trace of it.
Some of the players did try to be clever about it by turning all of their ISK into assets so that CCP won't be able to take away their ISK. But then CCP put those players into negative wallets spanning hundreds of millions of ISK.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1635
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:39:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Michael Epic wrote:Lets admit it....CCP Rattati is awesome.
The job he's doing with Dust 514? Equally as awesome.
But what about the long wanted, long awaited, long false myth of the EVE to Dust isk transfer?
I think EVE should be allowed to transfer ISK to Dust...but it should come at a cost.
100,000,000 (One hundred million) ISK in EVE = 10,000,000 (Ten Million) and so on and so fourth.
Why is this not possible? Imagine the impact it would have on Dust. It would make both games a lot more fun and being able to manage your infantry character and capsuleer character would add a new dimension to EVE and Dust.
That would be easy too...literally I think all CCP would have to do is flip a switch and it would work. What do you think?
Should EVE and Dust be able to transfer ISK? Why or why not? If you believe yes, lets get this done!
CCP Rattati MAKE IT HAPPEN! it used to be in game before but corps like goons and even solo entities flooded dust with BILLIONS of isk basically meaning they could afford to permarun proto and lose them and even after years they would not have run out of isk.. i am against dust isk and eve isk intermingleing at its current stage. All of that is incorrect. Maybe in beta, but not on the live version of tranquility. its not. i remember players moving massive amounts of isk into dust via corp wallets but ccp stepped in and wiped wallets... dust is in great need of another wallet wipe, personal and corp.. and give it a month and proto stomping may be much lower. A ISK wipe would give players a reason to not trust CCP. Why should people invest in this game if it can be wiped at anytime.
because TOS and EULA gives CCP the right to. it would not effect AUR or the BPOs they baught with real money.
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Pokey Dravon
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:40:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:
it used to be in game before but corps like goons and even solo entities flooded dust with BILLIONS of isk basically meaning they could afford to permarun proto and lose them and even after years they would not have run out of isk..
i am against dust isk and eve isk intermingleing at its current stage.
Lol wut? None of that ever happened. It did happen. Not on purpose at least. It was a miscoding on the part of CCP that accidentally flipped the switch on. CCP switched it off immediately after but it was too late. I was there. And then they went in an cleared all transferred ISK and assets, so there was no trace of it. Some of the players did try to be clever about it by turning all of their ISK into assets so that CCP won't be able to take away their ISK. But then CCP put those players into negative wallets spanning hundreds of millions of ISK.
Ah yes, that's right. They just subtracted the amount of ISK directly. You could keep the assets but were basically screwed if you wanted to buy anything.
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Leither Yiltron
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:40:00 -
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Michael Epic wrote:
But what about the long wanted, long awaited, long false myth of the EVE to Dust isk transfer?
You got off on the wrong stop in your time machine. The year is 2014, not 2011.
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Michael Epic
Event Horizon Allocution
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:42:00 -
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I understand the things you guys are saying....but why no bridge?
Ok...say no isk transfers. Fine. Why not let EVE pilots BUILD Dust gear? Think about it.
Get blueprint for Advanced rail rifle, invent it into Prototype variant....
Mine, manufacture dropsuits the same as ships...
EVEN IF there shouldn't be an ISK transfer...there should be some way besides dropping orbitals EVE pilots can assist Dust mercs and vice versa
The games of EVE and Dust are like an entire world and it shouldn't be impossible for one to help the other...its frustrating as crap, honestly. |
Viktor Hadah Jr
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:42:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:
it used to be in game before but corps like goons and even solo entities flooded dust with BILLIONS of isk basically meaning they could afford to permarun proto and lose them and even after years they would not have run out of isk..
i am against dust isk and eve isk intermingleing at its current stage.
All of that is incorrect. Maybe in beta, but not on the live version of tranquility. its not. i remember players moving massive amounts of isk into dust via corp wallets but ccp stepped in and wiped wallets... dust is in great need of another wallet wipe, personal and corp.. and give it a month and proto stomping may be much lower. A ISK wipe would give players a reason to not trust CCP. Why should people invest in this game if it can be wiped at anytime. because TOS and EULA gives CCP the right to. it would not effect AUR or the BPOs they baught with real money.
Yeah it does, i'm not sure what your point is.
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Pokey Dravon
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:43:00 -
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Michael Epic wrote:I understand the things you guys are saying....but why no bridge?
Ok...say no isk transfers. Fine. Why not let EVE pilots BUILD Dust gear? Think about it.
Get blueprint for Advanced rail rifle, invent it into Prototype variant....
Mine, manufacture dropsuits the same as ships...
EVEN IF there shouldn't be an ISK transfer...there should be some way besides dropping orbitals EVE pilots can assist Dust mercs and vice versa
The games of EVE and Dust are like an entire world and it shouldn't be impossible for one to help the other...its frustrating as crap, honestly.
Will never happen for Dust. Maybe Legion, hopefully.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:44:00 -
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Michael Epic wrote:I understand the things you guys are saying....but why no bridge?
Ok...say no isk transfers. Fine. Why not let EVE pilots BUILD Dust gear? Think about it.
Get blueprint for Advanced rail rifle, invent it into Prototype variant....
Mine, manufacture dropsuits the same as ships...
EVEN IF there shouldn't be an ISK transfer...there should be some way besides dropping orbitals EVE pilots can assist Dust mercs and vice versa
The games of EVE and Dust are like an entire world and it shouldn't be impossible for one to help the other...its frustrating as crap, honestly.
I'm wondering why we don't have all the vehicles is frustrating not having a full game.
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Michael Epic
Event Horizon Allocution
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:45:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Michael Epic wrote:I understand the things you guys are saying....but why no bridge?
Ok...say no isk transfers. Fine. Why not let EVE pilots BUILD Dust gear? Think about it.
Get blueprint for Advanced rail rifle, invent it into Prototype variant....
Mine, manufacture dropsuits the same as ships...
EVEN IF there shouldn't be an ISK transfer...there should be some way besides dropping orbitals EVE pilots can assist Dust mercs and vice versa
The games of EVE and Dust are like an entire world and it shouldn't be impossible for one to help the other...its frustrating as crap, honestly. Will never happen for Dust. Maybe Legion, hopefully.
But we can buy dropsuits and weapons in EVE. What's the point of that? Is there some way to GIVE the assets to your Dust character? That would be wicked bad ass |
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:58:00 -
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Michael Epic wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Michael Epic wrote:I understand the things you guys are saying....but why no bridge?
Ok...say no isk transfers. Fine. Why not let EVE pilots BUILD Dust gear? Think about it.
Get blueprint for Advanced rail rifle, invent it into Prototype variant....
Mine, manufacture dropsuits the same as ships...
EVEN IF there shouldn't be an ISK transfer...there should be some way besides dropping orbitals EVE pilots can assist Dust mercs and vice versa
The games of EVE and Dust are like an entire world and it shouldn't be impossible for one to help the other...its frustrating as crap, honestly. Will never happen for Dust. Maybe Legion, hopefully. But we can buy dropsuits and weapons in EVE. What's the point of that? Is there some way to GIVE the assets to your Dust character? That would be wicked bad ass
Because of the issues spoken about in this thread. If an EVE player buys assets and transfers them to a Dust character, its basically the same as direct ISK transfer. Meaning you could buy A LOT more suits in EVE with the same time investment in Dust, thus creating an imbalance. Hell I fire volleys of missiles every couple seconds that cost more than most of my dropsuit fits. Even in manufacturing you have issues.
Take mining for example, in EVE you're mining at a rate where you gather materials to make a starship. The amount of materials needed to produce a dropsuit are infinitesimally smaller, which means the time needed to gather the materials and create it is also equally shorter. I mean when I mine Im gathering thousands of cubic meters worth of material every hour.... imagine how many dropsuits I could make with that material. And for what, an hour of mindless 'work'? Dust items simply cannot be made via traditional means without overly saturating Dust with assets.
Also that being said, Dust mercs make and spend so little money compared to what EVE players do, that even buying the items from them....they would make so little money that it wouldn't be worth their time to do so. So now you have a player run manufacturing system...that isn't lucrative to those making the items...so they wont do it. That being said, a traditional EVE manufacturing scheme simply isnGÇÖt compatible with Dust/Legion. There needs to be a significantly different way that these goods are produced for it work. So no, it's not impossible, but its far from easy or simple to do.
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