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Middas Betancore
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2014.11.04 05:20:00 -
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This makes me mad
Im gonna try and keep it short, rather than trying to create something new... Why not join Kirjuun and help it improve
Fc's???!! THE FRAK??!!? U NEED SOMEONE TO CONTROL A PUB FW SKIRMISH!?!!
Last December I did some FC for a few months in the dust channel , yes it helps after a fashion I was mostly sat in. Eve telling ppl what was going on, what sqds were where etc
But it ends up as me sat there for 5 hours in chat boxes...not fun
I've felt a bit disheartened about Kirjuun...I set up a corp office in eve stocked it with OB gear recruited 5 OB pilots..z platoon was kind enough to consolidate...there's all you need...yet ppl still whine instead of frakkin helping me
Im not sure what you're looking for...
But damn u for trying to fracture what we have, damn u right to hek
Edit: though I agree with Victor to an extent, yes if u don't agree with how a group operates then cool go elsewhere
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club
5775
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Posted - 2014.11.04 05:24:00 -
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Middas Betancore wrote:This makes me mad
Im gonna try and keep it short, rather than trying to create something new... Why not join Kirjuun and help it improve
Fc's???!! THE FRAK??!!? U NEED SOMEONE TO CONTROL A PUB SKIRMISH
Last December I did some FC, yes it helps after a fashion
I was mostly sat in. Eve telling ppl what was going on, what sqds were where etc
But it ends up as me sat there for 5 hours in chat boxes...not fun
I've felt a bit disheartened about Kirjuun...I set up a corp office in eve stocked it with OB gear recruited 5 OB pilots..z platoon was kind enough to consolidate...there's all you need...yet ppl still whine instead of frakkin helping me
Im not sure what you're looking for...
But damn u for trying to fracture what we have, damn u right to hek
I feel like the last two members of Kirjuun are self serving or r*tarded. So should i still join your channel and share my feelings with everyone in there or should i make my own?
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EVE 21 Day Trial
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
4428
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Posted - 2014.11.04 05:27:00 -
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jNs Vit4l wrote:Enough said i farm LP in all factions and i protostomp for the cost of an adv fitting that way i can have fun protostomping till 2.0 that legion is going to be released. PS. I never asked what you would do/dont care what you would do, you jumped into my response to this thread and said lies about my channel. I think your talking to yourself buddie.
Wow. That's a whole lot of... Stuff you're saying there.
(The godfather of tactical logistics)
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Middas Betancore
Kirjuun Heiian
131
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Posted - 2014.11.04 05:28:00 -
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Im self serving? By wanting to create a unified strong CFW militia?
Please elaborate
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
4428
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Posted - 2014.11.04 05:29:00 -
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Grr double post. Stupid internets.
(The godfather of tactical logistics)
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club
5775
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Posted - 2014.11.04 05:37:00 -
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Middas Betancore wrote:Im self serving? By wanting to create a unified strong CFW militia?
Please elaborate You want everyone to come to your FW chat with your corp name branded into it. you do not want competition, you do not want to let anyone try to make something bigger and strong. Because you feel what you have is perfect and no one can do it better. If you did not feel this way you would all for competition.
Also you are not the first Cal FW chat channel, you were made by not joining the past popular CalFW chat channel.
I was in Gal FW years ago in EVE when Gal took over all of the systems, hell my EVE character "Viktor Hadah" still has a medal for it from the gal miliita for taking over all of the FW space. This happen partly because in Gal FW there were many top dog corps able to do there own thing and carry out there own ops and team up when needed. They built up there own forces and had there own territory. While in Cal FW at the time there were like 3 corps who had names and a lot of tiny corps that were pushed down by them. Pretty much in CalFW the attitude join us or GTFO. You need competition in order to succeed you can't just say "my way is the right way so deal with it."
NEG1
EVE 21 Day Trial
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
14146
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Posted - 2014.11.04 05:42:00 -
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Gotta admit there is not as much mutual respect between Dust Milita corps and EVE Mlt corps.
Probably because we've never really been forced to by circumstance work together towards a common goal.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
1073
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Posted - 2014.11.04 05:50:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Gotta admit there is not as much mutual respect between Dust Milita corps and EVE Mlt corps.
Probably because we've never really been forced to by circumstance work together towards a common goal.
The two working well together ended with the removal of Dust being able to select districts to assist in plexing activities.
They were pushed even further apart by the current contract generation scheme which ensures Dust side can not push much past 50% making its value Eve side NOTHING.
While district selection will not be possible again some sort of mechanic that brings the two back closer would go a very long ways. There are still plenty of ways more unity could be achieved without affecting mechanics in the long run any more negatively. |
Middas Betancore
Kirjuun Heiian
131
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Posted - 2014.11.04 06:16:00 -
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I see what u mean vik, though my motivation for not desiring more channels is not out of arrogance I just want to help band ppl together, I know im not perfect, that's why id like ppl to join and help Share ideas, concepts..speak to any player that's operated with me, im not some caldari dictator
I merely think a large unified force is a good idea, ppl trying to start something new instead of trying to improve what we have seems foolish to a degree
Rather than create a new channel, why not join an existing one and share your thoughts and ideas, try and make it stronger
But then my opinion differs to yours....so im probably wrong
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
14146
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Posted - 2014.11.04 07:01:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:True Adamance wrote:Gotta admit there is not as much mutual respect between Dust Milita corps and EVE Mlt corps.
Probably because we've never really been forced to by circumstance work together towards a common goal.
The two working well together ended with the removal of Dust being able to select districts to assist in plexing activities. They were pushed even further apart by the current contract generation scheme which ensures Dust side can not push much past 50% making its value Eve side NOTHING. While district selection will not be possible again some sort of mechanic that brings the two back closer would go a very long ways. There are still plenty of ways more unity could be achieved without affecting mechanics in the long run any more negatively.
Deezy are you interested in co-inciding your weekend Sync's with ours. More people we can get on the field means more wins over the weekends. Specifically fights in Arzad that we need to try to cover.
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Middas Betancore
Kirjuun Heiian
131
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Posted - 2014.11.04 07:28:00 -
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There's another ammar offensive on dust this weekend?
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
14147
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Posted - 2014.11.04 07:45:00 -
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Middas Betancore wrote:There's another ammar offensive on dust this weekend?
There's always an offensive if we can help it.
"We will not let the enemy dictate the tempo of this war."
-Godfather Amarr
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Middas Betancore
Kirjuun Heiian
132
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Posted - 2014.11.04 07:52:00 -
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Let it not be said I do not honour our alliance, I regularly follow PIE's Templars into the fires of battle, as they sometimes stand with me in the face of federation belligerence
"May Her light guide us to victory"
*Redacted* Templar to Betancore
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
14147
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Posted - 2014.11.04 08:10:00 -
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Middas Betancore wrote:Let it not be said I do not honour our alliance, I regularly follow PIE's Templars into the fires of battle, as they sometimes stand with me in the face of federation belligerence
"May Her light guide us to victory"
*Redacted* Templar to Betancore
One day we must also return the favours. The Empress did say that what you give to the Empire the Empire that give back unto you.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1520
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Posted - 2014.11.04 08:16:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Better have 5 channels with 50 guys in each that work well together and like each other rather than one channel with 250 guys all yelling over each other and butting heads.
I'll agree with this, however it's very cherry picked and it is essentially a strawman. None of the active FW communities have that many players.
Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Here is an example of that, i think from your second paragraph you are just a bit ignorant of some of the things that happen in FW very often. Corps q sync'ing an entire 16 man team. If they take the battle seriously and have a FC that knows what they are doing your team will be in the redline making s'mores waiting for the battle to be over after the first 5 minutes will the enemy team picks of the few people trying to do something who still care. We have differing opinions that's why it is not a good idea to pile everyone into one chat. not everyone will get along.
What you've just said here amounts to "You should have a FC because you should have an FC!" it's circular logic. Most of the people leading and gathering six man squads are more than capable of doing their own thing because almost every player is a relatively competent individual. I've hopped in to plenty of games where there were 2-4 squads that weren't communicating with each other at all vs a 16man sync and they did just fine.
Dust is not such a complicated game, that it requires one person to have there finger totally on the battle's pulse and directing all the actions of every squad.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
14148
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Posted - 2014.11.04 08:43:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Better have 5 channels with 50 guys in each that work well together and like each other rather than one channel with 250 guys all yelling over each other and butting heads. I'll agree with this, however it's very cherry picked and it is essentially a strawman. None of the active FW communities have that many players. Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Here is an example of that, i think from your second paragraph you are just a bit ignorant of some of the things that happen in FW very often. Corps q sync'ing an entire 16 man team. If they take the battle seriously and have a FC that knows what they are doing your team will be in the redline making s'mores waiting for the battle to be over after the first 5 minutes will the enemy team picks of the few people trying to do something who still care. We have differing opinions that's why it is not a good idea to pile everyone into one chat. not everyone will get along. What you've just said here amounts to "You should have a FC because you should have an FC!" it's circular logic. Most of the people leading and gathering six man squads are more than capable of doing their own thing because almost every player is a relatively competent individual. I've hopped in to plenty of games where there were 2-4 squads that weren't communicating with each other at all vs a 16man sync and they did just fine. Dust is not such a complicated game, that it requires one person to have there finger totally on the battle's pulse and directing all the actions of every squad.
I'll agree to a certain extend Mina.
Dust is not a complex game...... but in games where Aero takes a firm hand and leads the Sync....actually in games where anyone designated leader does this victory is smoother, faster, and a dozen times more efficient.
I noted during the previous weekends Q-Syncs that we lacked central command which meant I had no idea where to be in my HAV, squads were converging on one another's AO with for no reason, and we were having to flip the same objectives several times where we previously would have been able to hold all 3 or 4 with little issue.
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Stupid Blueberry
Wirykomi Wolf Pack
555
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Posted - 2014.11.04 10:42:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:The Amarr already have PIE ground control and Amarr1 The Amarr1 que syncs are a joke. Plus DuBoi is just a crappy LP farmer. Squad in PIE when possible, at least if someone from there drops OBs they might donate some LP to upgrade the ihubs.
Signature = VoM?
Chillin, waitin on Legion.
Ishukone loyalist, Caldari Scout enthusiast!
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
4429
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Posted - 2014.11.04 12:59:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Better have 5 channels with 50 guys in each that work well together and like each other rather than one channel with 250 guys all yelling over each other and butting heads. I'll agree with this, however it's very cherry picked and it is essentially a strawman. None of the active FW communities have that many players. Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Here is an example of that, i think from your second paragraph you are just a bit ignorant of some of the things that happen in FW very often. Corps q sync'ing an entire 16 man team. If they take the battle seriously and have a FC that knows what they are doing your team will be in the redline making s'mores waiting for the battle to be over after the first 5 minutes will the enemy team picks of the few people trying to do something who still care. We have differing opinions that's why it is not a good idea to pile everyone into one chat. not everyone will get along. What you've just said here amounts to "You should have a FC because you should have an FC!" it's circular logic. Most of the people leading and gathering six man squads are more than capable of doing their own thing because almost every player is a relatively competent individual. I've hopped in to plenty of games where there were 2-4 squads that weren't communicating with each other at all vs a 16man sync and they did just fine. Dust is not such a complicated game, that it requires one person to have there finger totally on the battle's pulse and directing all the actions of every squad. I'll agree to a certain extend Mina. Dust is not a complex game...... but in games where Aero takes a firm hand and leads the Sync....actually in games where anyone designated leader does this victory is smoother, faster, and a dozen times more efficient. I noted during the previous weekends Q-Syncs that we lacked central command which meant I had no idea where to be in my HAV, squads were converging on one another's AO with for no reason, and we were having to flip the same objectives several times where we previously would have been able to hold all 3 or 4 with little issue.
I'd agree. You don't need a particularly complex command scheme, but simply having a single person rearranging squads to get the right mix and designating map areas to different squads makes a big difference,
I run with Deezys group when there's not many people I know on PIE at the time, and while I don't exactly agree with thundergroove, it is true tha they don't have the level of organization seen in PIE. But, it's not that commonly necessary, tbh. Just having 10 people who are competent and on comms is enough to win most battles.
(The godfather of tactical logistics)
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Middas Betancore
Kirjuun Heiian
142
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Posted - 2014.11.04 13:12:00 -
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All fist shaking aside, I would like to get back into FC style commanding , honestly I just havent felt like it, RL stuff etc But once im settled in 1.9 il set aside some time That's mainly what I wanted my corp to be like, sqd leaders to help run syncs from the pub channel We'll see
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Interstellar Marine
AKIRA 2182
6
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Posted - 2014.11.04 15:58:00 -
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I'll take all valid opinions, constructive & non constructive criticisms on board
MINA Longstrike quote why do you need somebody to hold your hand through the FW process?
i don't, but i cant have the rest of you running around like headless chickens, saying? why did we loose? where's my squad? im dying too much im off to do pubs for isk
clear precise orders can offer a less risky strategy resulting most of the time loosing less battles/assets & has more chance of winning the battle than just luck alone
it keeps people happy & more willing to stay, to know there is some kind of plan other than everyone on free roam hack everything
people running around on free roam, some games are just like that and we can relax
but what happens if everyone goes to C but A,D,E,B are red and need to be taken by that time the entire enemy team is at your home objective camping your redline & you have to start all over again with no co-organization battles are made more difficult when it is not necessary, with 3-4 orders at the beginning of the match we don't put all our egg's on one basket which can result in failure
ccp said in the DUST 514 Development Update 16th October
we want to make Factional Warfare the go-to game mode for the elite veterans.
now if we get a game & trust me sometimes we do, more often now than ever we need to be ready & have practiced routines, it becomes auto pilot anyway & very simple
we can control a battle easyer with organization & is much harder to do so with kaos
To Middas Betancore
i have a lot of respect for you & what you have done and are trying to do, i was in KH since Jenza Aranda posted the FW channels way back it never worked in my opinion it lacked leadership & when a leader stepped up, a new channel was created for basically channel admin reasons,
now you are that leader just later in the dust cycle, i have helped you in the past, i will continue to help you in the future if you wish, but its better to have more than 1 room with more than 1 qsync as we did in the past
i am not trying to fracture anything, i fractured my hip in a car accident years ago its not nice, im merely trying to start fresh & form what we once had, more than 1 room with more than 1 qsync where anyone can go & expect there to be some form of structure in place
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club
5788
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Posted - 2014.11.04 16:15:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Better have 5 channels with 50 guys in each that work well together and like each other rather than one channel with 250 guys all yelling over each other and butting heads. I'll agree with this, however it's very cherry picked and it is essentially a strawman. None of the active FW communities have that many players. Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Here is an example of that, i think from your second paragraph you are just a bit ignorant of some of the things that happen in FW very often. Corps q sync'ing an entire 16 man team. If they take the battle seriously and have a FC that knows what they are doing your team will be in the redline making s'mores waiting for the battle to be over after the first 5 minutes will the enemy team picks of the few people trying to do something who still care. We have differing opinions that's why it is not a good idea to pile everyone into one chat. not everyone will get along. What you've just said here amounts to "You should have a FC because you should have an FC!" it's circular logic. Most of the people leading and gathering six man squads are more than capable of doing their own thing because almost every player is a relatively competent individual. I've hopped in to plenty of games where there were 2-4 squads that weren't communicating with each other at all vs a 16man sync and they did just fine. Dust is not such a complicated game, that it requires one person to have there finger totally on the battle's pulse and directing all the actions of every squad. No, I'm saying you should have an FC so the other team does not camp you in the redline. When one team has an FC and the other just randomly runs around doing what they think is best without much coordination the team with the FC who is actually controlling his entire team will win.
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Interstellar Marine
AKIRA 2182
7
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Posted - 2014.11.05 16:27:00 -
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The first day of 1.9 update went well
We lost some, we won some, all in all some great battles going down the the final clone or tick of the mcc, against some great squads/teams and corps
Thank you to all who joined and fought with or against, yesterday was a good day to live & die in dust
AKIRA FW a public channel for caldari & amarr fw
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Middas Betancore
Kirjuun Heiian
152
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Posted - 2014.11.05 17:16:00 -
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Last night I got Intel that gal were syncing in, I got my sqd and deployed, found 2 enemy sqds from blauhelme.
Entering the war barge, we find the toxic gas glitch, " OOOO NEW STUFFS", Sure enough it was one of the new 3 point layouts on toxic mood. To keep it short we all thought the map was amazing. We maintained a strong lead throughout, firstly on MCC, later on clo nes. Ending with a Caldari victory. We all had great fun. And my loot pile was good maybe 4 proto items 4 adv 4 mlt/std..good spread
I'll add ur channel and stay in touch Marine
Major M. Betancore
CEO-Kirjuun Heiian-Caldari Faction Warfare Corp
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
4437
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Posted - 2014.11.05 17:22:00 -
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No FW for me last night. CCP making it rain in pubs was too good to pass up. 8 million an hour was more than enough incentive to get me to do pubs again for a bit.
(The godfather of tactical logistics)
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Middas Betancore
Kirjuun Heiian
152
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Posted - 2014.11.05 17:27:00 -
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True after 2 hours respeccing/selling gear (respec was more tidying up, super cal purist spec, so happy) Only bothered with one FW game, all I could pull my sqd outta pubs for Totally worth it just to see the new mood/map, though my rank hardly yields much bonus LP...meh
I'll prob be running a fair bit tonight along with OS
Major M. Betancore
CEO-Kirjuun Heiian-Caldari Faction Warfare Corp
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Interstellar Marine
AKIRA 2182
7
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Posted - 2014.11.06 16:08:00 -
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I have had a chance to reflect on my first 1.9 fw post & the replies, views & opinions posted.
Im pulling the amarr side to the channel as requested & it will focus solely on caldari fw until its up and running with a hopefully with a stable amount of people looking to squad up.
(Then i can retire & join the amarr:)
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Middas Betancore
Kirjuun Heiian
156
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Posted - 2014.11.06 18:37:00 -
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Ok so my main issue is thus, last night, im in both channels and over the course of the course of the evening im coming out of battle , checking both Akira FW and Kirjuun Heiian to find there are people in one channel looking for squad, or squad members in both channels, yet unable to find each other without assistance.
Expecting every state contractor to have both channels is possible, or perhaps ppl who sqd lead to use both So either we need to raise the awareness of both channels in order to press the concept of operatives to be active in both Or to consolidate into one, needless to say im not moving my operation since I've put too much time/effort in establishing it on dust and eve. However I dont wish to sideline your efforts so soon after u begin I'll leave the decision up to u, I just wanted to raise this point with you
If what you desire are more FC's having all our assets in one place. Kirjuun is a public channel run by an eve player, so anyone can join and we can moderate against trolls Im also trying to establish a pool of players from which eve players can get OB locations, having it more active makes it more lucrative/attractive to eve players.
I have also recently been promoted to Acting CEO of Kirjuun Heiian under the foundership of Mina Longstrike, I have rented an eve office and moved our headquarters at the same station on the border of FW space, where we have a hangar facility containing fitted ships, hulls and other material necessary for orbital support.
I have recruited all the eve players I know who are willing into the corp and have begun the process of recruiting dust players, any caldari FW players are more than welcome to join, the only standard necessary being a level of common decency to other players. Training and isk support are also available upon request I also sent a help ticket and got my dust character to the corporate HQ, Onnamon 4 State Protectorate LogisticsSupport
Im also going to send a list of names to kirjuuns moderator of known and trusted users who will be able to report trolls.
Your decision is your own, but Kirjuun Heiian will be there if you need it Thank you all for your time and efforts on and off the battlefield
Major M. Betancore Acting CEO Kirjuun Heiian
CEO-Kirjuun Heiian-Caldari Faction Warfare Corp
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
4449
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Posted - 2014.11.07 05:34:00 -
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Middas Betancore wrote:Ok so my main issue is thus, last night, im in both channels and over the course of the course of the evening im coming out of battle , checking both Akira FW and Kirjuun Heiian to find there are people in one channel looking for squad, or squad members in both channels, yet unable to find each other without assistance.
Expecting every state contractor to have both channels is possible, or perhaps ppl who sqd lead to use both So either we need to raise the awareness of both channels in order to press the concept of operatives to be active in both Or to consolidate into one, needless to say im not moving my operation since I've put too much time/effort in establishing it on dust and eve. However I dont wish to sideline your efforts so soon after u begin I'll leave the decision up to u, I just wanted to raise this point with you
If what you desire are more FC's having all our assets in one place will make it easier for FC's to recruit and co-ordinate operatives. Kirjuun is a public channel run by an eve player, so anyone can join and we can moderate against trolls Im also trying to establish a pool of players from which eve players can get OB locations, having it more active makes it more lucrative/attractive to eve players.
I have also recently been promoted to Acting CEO of Kirjuun Heiian under the foundership of Mina Longstrike, I have rented an eve office and moved our headquarters at the same station on the border of FW space, where we have a hangar facility containing fitted ships, hulls and other material necessary for orbital support.
I have recruited all the eve players I know who are willing into the corp and have begun the process of recruiting dust players, any caldari FW players are more than welcome to join, the only standard necessary being a level of common decency to other players. Training and isk support are also available upon request I also sent a help ticket and got my dust character to the corporate HQ, Onnamon 4 State Protectorate LogisticsSupport
Im also going to send a list of names to kirjuuns moderator of known and trusted users who will be able to report trolls.
Your decision is your own, but Kirjuun Heiian will be there if you need it Thank you all for your time and efforts on and off the battlefield
Major M. Betancore Acting CEO Kirjuun Heiian Since the eve pilots are the ones with the most to lose, one suggestion would be to put all the trusted loyalists/FCs/squad leads in one channel (KH makes the most sense) with the eve pilots. Have the other for general use, this insulates the pilots from spies as you wouldn't have to broadcast the battle location in a channel with a lot of people you may not know well.
Just a thought if you are having issues reconciling the channels.
(The godfather of tactical logistics)
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Middas Betancore
Kirjuun Heiian
158
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Posted - 2014.11.07 06:32:00 -
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From my experience dealing with EVE OB pilots is they aren't very bothered by spies. Also if handled correctly security risks in FW pub channels can be mitigated by simply asking if an eve player is available to support, then mailing the location directly to the pilot . Lets not forget, once connected to a district an enemy team of 16 players knows exactly where the pilot is in the galaxy within. 10km... PIE has no major issues with dropping OB via public channels, I myself have done so periodically for about over a year, maintaining great isk efficiency from FW OB
I could always use more pilots and sqd leaders in the channel. Ppl are still dragging their feet a little when it comes to organised FW
It's tricky, a lot of player groups conduct themselves separately to FW channels, such as corp sqds dipping into FW contracts purely for quick easy LP. Not to mention the persistent undercurrent of "elite" splinter groups
It'll get there though, FW syncing/ co ordinating can be very fun, it just takes a certain mass of localised activity before it really gets going, plus eve has a lot of other activities which are more engaging than Orbital strikes so having pilots available isn't easy
My main highlight has always been one night last winter 5 full sqds deployed accross 3 districts with 4 eve pilots providing orbital support
These things can happen/work, it just takes patience, tolerance and co-operation Im gonna try and FC more regulary..that's my say for now
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