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John Demonsbane
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Posted - 2014.11.03 19:26:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:The Amarr already have PIE ground control and Amarr1 while the soul of Caldari Fw is Kirjuun Heiaan or some weird ass name like that.
I can't speak to the Caldari channel, I guess they've been fractured on and off because dramaz or whatever.
The two Amarr channels are rather successful, don't really see a need to dilute things with multiple channels on our end. Two is more than enough.
Unless you are suggsting that this channel simply be for coordination between, say, Kirjuun and PIE, for example. In which case that might be a valid proposal.
(The godfather of tactical logistics)
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John Demonsbane
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Posted - 2014.11.03 20:12:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Joel II X wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:The Amarr already have PIE ground control and Amarr1 while the soul of Caldari Fw is Kirjuun Heiaan or some weird ass name like that. This. Why spread out your forces when you can all join one single channel? Preferably PIE if you're Amarr and Kirjuun if you're Caldari. If you want to join both, why not use both channels? Because Amarr1 (formerly Amarr123) has been around and been Q-Syncing for almost 6 months now. We have many people willing to step up and FC / SL when needed as well as plenty of orbital support. Moderation is also very active, all are welcome but any hint of being a spy or a troll will lead to an immediate ban. This also includes attempting to recruit for other factions as this is disruptive to our flow when people are going back and forth on what they are playing. I look forward to seeing a few new faces. o7
Hey, while I'm thinking about it, can we rename the channel Amarr one (or One)? Keep forgetting to suggest it in chat.
The numerical 1 bothers my aesthetic sensibilities for some reason. Just a thought.
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John Demonsbane
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Posted - 2014.11.03 20:20:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Joel II X wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:The Amarr already have PIE ground control and Amarr1 while the soul of Caldari Fw is Kirjuun Heiaan or some weird ass name like that. This. Why spread out your forces when you can all join one single channel? Preferably PIE if you're Amarr and Kirjuun if you're Caldari. If you want to join both, why not use both channels? Because Amarr1 (formerly Amarr123) has been around and been Q-Syncing for almost 6 months now. We have many people willing to step up and FC / SL when needed as well as plenty of orbital support. Moderation is also very active, all are welcome but any hint of being a spy or a troll will lead to an immediate ban. This also includes attempting to recruit for other factions as this is disruptive to our flow when people are going back and forth on what they are playing. I look forward to seeing a few new faces. o7 Hey, while I'm thinking about it, can we rename the channel Amarr one (or One)? Keep forgetting to suggest it in chat. The numerical 1 bothers my aesthetic sensibilities for some reason. Just a thought. personally i would like that name better as well but that makes it harder to share and bring in fellow amarrians who we have picked up in battle. Lol... think of it as an intelligence test for entry
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John Demonsbane
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Posted - 2014.11.04 05:27:00 -
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jNs Vit4l wrote:Enough said i farm LP in all factions and i protostomp for the cost of an adv fitting that way i can have fun protostomping till 2.0 that legion is going to be released. PS. I never asked what you would do/dont care what you would do, you jumped into my response to this thread and said lies about my channel. I think your talking to yourself buddie.
Wow. That's a whole lot of... Stuff you're saying there.
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John Demonsbane
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Posted - 2014.11.04 05:29:00 -
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Grr double post. Stupid internets.
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John Demonsbane
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Posted - 2014.11.04 12:59:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Better have 5 channels with 50 guys in each that work well together and like each other rather than one channel with 250 guys all yelling over each other and butting heads. I'll agree with this, however it's very cherry picked and it is essentially a strawman. None of the active FW communities have that many players. Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Here is an example of that, i think from your second paragraph you are just a bit ignorant of some of the things that happen in FW very often. Corps q sync'ing an entire 16 man team. If they take the battle seriously and have a FC that knows what they are doing your team will be in the redline making s'mores waiting for the battle to be over after the first 5 minutes will the enemy team picks of the few people trying to do something who still care. We have differing opinions that's why it is not a good idea to pile everyone into one chat. not everyone will get along. What you've just said here amounts to "You should have a FC because you should have an FC!" it's circular logic. Most of the people leading and gathering six man squads are more than capable of doing their own thing because almost every player is a relatively competent individual. I've hopped in to plenty of games where there were 2-4 squads that weren't communicating with each other at all vs a 16man sync and they did just fine. Dust is not such a complicated game, that it requires one person to have there finger totally on the battle's pulse and directing all the actions of every squad. I'll agree to a certain extend Mina. Dust is not a complex game...... but in games where Aero takes a firm hand and leads the Sync....actually in games where anyone designated leader does this victory is smoother, faster, and a dozen times more efficient. I noted during the previous weekends Q-Syncs that we lacked central command which meant I had no idea where to be in my HAV, squads were converging on one another's AO with for no reason, and we were having to flip the same objectives several times where we previously would have been able to hold all 3 or 4 with little issue.
I'd agree. You don't need a particularly complex command scheme, but simply having a single person rearranging squads to get the right mix and designating map areas to different squads makes a big difference,
I run with Deezys group when there's not many people I know on PIE at the time, and while I don't exactly agree with thundergroove, it is true tha they don't have the level of organization seen in PIE. But, it's not that commonly necessary, tbh. Just having 10 people who are competent and on comms is enough to win most battles.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
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Posted - 2014.11.05 17:22:00 -
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No FW for me last night. CCP making it rain in pubs was too good to pass up. 8 million an hour was more than enough incentive to get me to do pubs again for a bit.
(The godfather of tactical logistics)
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
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Posted - 2014.11.07 05:34:00 -
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Middas Betancore wrote:Ok so my main issue is thus, last night, im in both channels and over the course of the course of the evening im coming out of battle , checking both Akira FW and Kirjuun Heiian to find there are people in one channel looking for squad, or squad members in both channels, yet unable to find each other without assistance.
Expecting every state contractor to have both channels is possible, or perhaps ppl who sqd lead to use both So either we need to raise the awareness of both channels in order to press the concept of operatives to be active in both Or to consolidate into one, needless to say im not moving my operation since I've put too much time/effort in establishing it on dust and eve. However I dont wish to sideline your efforts so soon after u begin I'll leave the decision up to u, I just wanted to raise this point with you
If what you desire are more FC's having all our assets in one place will make it easier for FC's to recruit and co-ordinate operatives. Kirjuun is a public channel run by an eve player, so anyone can join and we can moderate against trolls Im also trying to establish a pool of players from which eve players can get OB locations, having it more active makes it more lucrative/attractive to eve players.
I have also recently been promoted to Acting CEO of Kirjuun Heiian under the foundership of Mina Longstrike, I have rented an eve office and moved our headquarters at the same station on the border of FW space, where we have a hangar facility containing fitted ships, hulls and other material necessary for orbital support.
I have recruited all the eve players I know who are willing into the corp and have begun the process of recruiting dust players, any caldari FW players are more than welcome to join, the only standard necessary being a level of common decency to other players. Training and isk support are also available upon request I also sent a help ticket and got my dust character to the corporate HQ, Onnamon 4 State Protectorate LogisticsSupport
Im also going to send a list of names to kirjuuns moderator of known and trusted users who will be able to report trolls.
Your decision is your own, but Kirjuun Heiian will be there if you need it Thank you all for your time and efforts on and off the battlefield
Major M. Betancore Acting CEO Kirjuun Heiian Since the eve pilots are the ones with the most to lose, one suggestion would be to put all the trusted loyalists/FCs/squad leads in one channel (KH makes the most sense) with the eve pilots. Have the other for general use, this insulates the pilots from spies as you wouldn't have to broadcast the battle location in a channel with a lot of people you may not know well.
Just a thought if you are having issues reconciling the channels.
(The godfather of tactical logistics)
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