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Viktor Hadah Jr
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Posted - 2014.11.03 20:35:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Joel II X wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:The Amarr already have PIE ground control and Amarr1 while the soul of Caldari Fw is Kirjuun Heiaan or some weird ass name like that. This. Why spread out your forces when you can all join one single channel? Preferably PIE if you're Amarr and Kirjuun if you're Caldari. If you want to join both, why not use both channels? Because Amarr1 (formerly Amarr123) has been around and been Q-Syncing for almost 6 months now. We have many people willing to step up and FC / SL when needed as well as plenty of orbital support. Moderation is also very active, all are welcome but any hint of being a spy or a troll will lead to an immediate ban. This also includes attempting to recruit for other factions as this is disruptive to our flow when people are going back and forth on what they are playing. I look forward to seeing a few new faces. o7 Hey, while I'm thinking about it, can we rename the channel Amarr one (or One)? Keep forgetting to suggest it in chat. The numerical 1 bothers my aesthetic sensibilities for some reason. Just a thought. I purpose it as "Amarr Won"
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Viktor Hadah Jr
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Posted - 2014.11.04 05:12:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:With all that's said about 'nobody FC's'... you don't need a new channel to do that - in fact it's actively counterproductive to make new channels like that, people just need to step up to the plate in channels that already exist. No matter the faction.
Also, What exactly do people want from a "FC", why do you feel that a FC is so important to facwar? I mean most of the people I see in these channels I can identify as relatively competent dust players, like why do you need somebody to hold your hand through the FW process? I mean I can understand if there was a large influx of brand new players to these channels and there was some help needed herd kittens but really it seems like any one of the players in these channels are capable individuals who shouldn't need a 'FC'. Wrong!
More competition is good, people all have different tastes.
Better have 5 channels with 50 guys in each that work well together and like each other rather than one channel with 250 guys all yelling over each other and butting heads.
Here is an example of that, i think from your second paragraph you are just a bit ignorant of some of the things that happen in FW very often. Corps q sync'ing an entire 16 man team. If they take the battle seriously and have a FC that knows what they are doing your team will be in the redline making s'mores waiting for the battle to be over after the first 5 minutes will the enemy team picks of the few people trying to do something who still care. We have differing opinions that's why it is not a good idea to pile everyone into one chat. not everyone will get along.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
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Posted - 2014.11.04 05:24:00 -
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Middas Betancore wrote:This makes me mad
Im gonna try and keep it short, rather than trying to create something new... Why not join Kirjuun and help it improve
Fc's???!! THE FRAK??!!? U NEED SOMEONE TO CONTROL A PUB SKIRMISH
Last December I did some FC, yes it helps after a fashion
I was mostly sat in. Eve telling ppl what was going on, what sqds were where etc
But it ends up as me sat there for 5 hours in chat boxes...not fun
I've felt a bit disheartened about Kirjuun...I set up a corp office in eve stocked it with OB gear recruited 5 OB pilots..z platoon was kind enough to consolidate...there's all you need...yet ppl still whine instead of frakkin helping me
Im not sure what you're looking for...
But damn u for trying to fracture what we have, damn u right to hek
I feel like the last two members of Kirjuun are self serving or r*tarded. So should i still join your channel and share my feelings with everyone in there or should i make my own?
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Viktor Hadah Jr
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Posted - 2014.11.04 05:37:00 -
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Middas Betancore wrote:Im self serving? By wanting to create a unified strong CFW militia?
Please elaborate You want everyone to come to your FW chat with your corp name branded into it. you do not want competition, you do not want to let anyone try to make something bigger and strong. Because you feel what you have is perfect and no one can do it better. If you did not feel this way you would all for competition.
Also you are not the first Cal FW chat channel, you were made by not joining the past popular CalFW chat channel.
I was in Gal FW years ago in EVE when Gal took over all of the systems, hell my EVE character "Viktor Hadah" still has a medal for it from the gal miliita for taking over all of the FW space. This happen partly because in Gal FW there were many top dog corps able to do there own thing and carry out there own ops and team up when needed. They built up there own forces and had there own territory. While in Cal FW at the time there were like 3 corps who had names and a lot of tiny corps that were pushed down by them. Pretty much in CalFW the attitude join us or GTFO. You need competition in order to succeed you can't just say "my way is the right way so deal with it."
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Viktor Hadah Jr
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Posted - 2014.11.04 16:15:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Better have 5 channels with 50 guys in each that work well together and like each other rather than one channel with 250 guys all yelling over each other and butting heads. I'll agree with this, however it's very cherry picked and it is essentially a strawman. None of the active FW communities have that many players. Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Here is an example of that, i think from your second paragraph you are just a bit ignorant of some of the things that happen in FW very often. Corps q sync'ing an entire 16 man team. If they take the battle seriously and have a FC that knows what they are doing your team will be in the redline making s'mores waiting for the battle to be over after the first 5 minutes will the enemy team picks of the few people trying to do something who still care. We have differing opinions that's why it is not a good idea to pile everyone into one chat. not everyone will get along. What you've just said here amounts to "You should have a FC because you should have an FC!" it's circular logic. Most of the people leading and gathering six man squads are more than capable of doing their own thing because almost every player is a relatively competent individual. I've hopped in to plenty of games where there were 2-4 squads that weren't communicating with each other at all vs a 16man sync and they did just fine. Dust is not such a complicated game, that it requires one person to have there finger totally on the battle's pulse and directing all the actions of every squad. No, I'm saying you should have an FC so the other team does not camp you in the redline. When one team has an FC and the other just randomly runs around doing what they think is best without much coordination the team with the FC who is actually controlling his entire team will win.
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