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Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.02 18:57:00 -
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I know this might be met with mixed reactions, but with the demand for more BPOs or even the chance to repurchase existing ones such as the Mercenary/Veteran/Elite Packs, I think it would awesome if CCP gave us the chance to but all the Staff Recruiter BPOs as part of a bundle.
Now I know some people might complain but you have yo remember, most of these are militia BPOs with a slight damage increase, and another is an LAV and ADV Caldari C-II Dropsuit.
I think this pack would be great for new players as it offers a variety of militia BPOs which are about on par with their starter fits, but also provide veteran's and higher SP players with an UNIQUE Adv tier beta Dropsuit that I'm sure many players would love to own, if only for the nostalgia value. I think this bundle would be a great opportunity for CCP to launch some content that many would not be able to otherwise obtain, as the recruit programme is all but obsolete now as hardly anyone uses the recruitment links we provide.
And no, you CANT have my ISK!!!
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Joel II X
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
4213
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Posted - 2014.11.02 19:04:00 -
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No. They're special.
Besides, they're militia items with like .3% improvement. |
Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
349
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Posted - 2014.11.02 19:13:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:No. They're special.
Besides, they're militia items with like .3% improvement. We'll then you won't mind people buying them then if "they're militia items", after all, what threat would they pose compared to a standard suit. And as for these BPOs being "special", I have 3 if them and the only special thing about them is how unobtainable some of them are.
These Suits and BPOs shouldnt be any more special than the Quafe suit, which originally was a Proto Gallente Scout suit ONLY, but now we have over 12 BPO variations of this type of suit. So these Staff Recruiter BPOs should be made more available to everyone.
And no, you CANT have my ISK!!!
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Joel II X
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
4213
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Posted - 2014.11.02 19:18:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Joel II X wrote:No. They're special.
Besides, they're militia items with like .3% improvement. We'll then you won't mind people buying them then if "they're militia items", after all, what threat would they pose compared to a standard suit. And as for these BPOs being "special", I have 3 if them and the only special thing about them is how unobtainable some of them are. These Suits and BPOs shouldnt be any more special than the Quafe suit, which originally was a Proto Gallente Scout suit ONLY, but now we have over 12 BPO variations of this type of suit. So these Staff Recruiter BPOs should be made more available to everyone. Except the Quafe Scout stayed proto and consumable, and making the prizes hard to obtain name them special. I'd say the Master Recruiter Assault C-II is around 10-20 times more rate than a Templar set simply because it is extremely hard to get with the only power you have of getting it is using something much more valuable than money: time. |
Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1541
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Posted - 2014.11.02 19:18:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:I know this might be met with mixed reactions, but with the demand for more BPOs or even the chance to repurchase existing ones such as the Mercenary/Veteran/Elite Packs, I think it would awesome if CCP gave us the chance to but all the Staff Recruiter BPOs as part of a bundle.
Now I know some people might complain but you have yo remember, most of these are militia BPOs with a slight damage increase, and another is an LAV and ADV Caldari C-II Dropsuit.
I think this pack would be great for new players as it offers a variety of militia BPOs which are about on par with their starter fits, but also provide veteran's and higher SP players with an UNIQUE Adv tier beta Dropsuit that I'm sure many players would love to own, if only for the nostalgia value. I think this bundle would be a great opportunity for CCP to launch some content that many would not be able to otherwise obtain, as the recruit programme is all but obsolete now as hardly anyone uses the recruitment links we provide. No. get recruiting mister billy no mates
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
349
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Posted - 2014.11.02 19:25:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Joel II X wrote:No. They're special.
Besides, they're militia items with like .3% improvement. We'll then you won't mind people buying them then if "they're militia items", after all, what threat would they pose compared to a standard suit. And as for these BPOs being "special", I have 3 if them and the only special thing about them is how unobtainable some of them are. These Suits and BPOs shouldnt be any more special than the Quafe suit, which originally was a Proto Gallente Scout suit ONLY, but now we have over 12 BPO variations of this type of suit. So these Staff Recruiter BPOs should be made more available to everyone. EDIT: The Master Recruiter Assault C-II is not an ADV Assault BPO.
Master Recruiter C-II IS an ADV tier dropsuit. The Staff Recruiter C-I is a standard tier suit, the C-II was an ADV tier.
And no, you CANT have my ISK!!!
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
349
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Posted - 2014.11.02 19:28:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote: No. get recruiting mister billy no mates
And I suppose you have managed to recruit 100 people to this game then. Face it, 100+ people is such an unreasonable and unobtainable number that CCP might as well made it 1,000,000 Autumn instead of a Dropsuit. You can't even have 100 freinds on PSN, so how could we possibly invite that many people to play DUST514, let alone encourage them to stay past the grindfest that they face as a new recruit.
And no, you CANT have my ISK!!!
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Maken Tosch
Dust University Ivy League
10057
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Posted - 2014.11.02 19:29:00 -
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No. Get your ass out there and start recruiting, mister.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Maken Tosch
Dust University Ivy League
10057
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Posted - 2014.11.02 19:31:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote: No. get recruiting mister billy no mates
And I suppose you have managed to recruit 100 people to this game then. Face it, 100+ people is such an unreasonable and unobtainable number that CCP might as well made it 1,000,000 Autumn instead of a Dropsuit. You can't even have 100 freinds on PSN, so how could we possibly invite that many people to play DUST514, let alone encourage them to stay past the grindfest that they face as a new recruit.
After 1.9 that won't be a problem. Again, get out there and recruit.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
349
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Posted - 2014.11.02 19:35:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote: No. get recruiting mister billy no mates
And I suppose you have managed to recruit 100 people to this game then. Face it, 100+ people is such an unreasonable and unobtainable number that CCP might as well made it 1,000,000 Autumn instead of a Dropsuit. You can't even have 100 freinds on PSN, so how could we possibly invite that many people to play DUST514, let alone encourage them to stay past the grindfest that they face as a new recruit. After 1.9 that won't be a problem. Again, get out there and recruit. And how do you suppose of doing that. Buy a PS3 Capture card, and spend over a year building up a fanbase on YouTube to recruit people which would cost me more in time and money than it would to simply buy the BPOs as a bundle in the 1st place.
And no, you CANT have my ISK!!!
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Son-Of A-Gun
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
1400
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Posted - 2014.11.02 19:41:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote: No. get recruiting mister billy no mates
And I suppose you have managed to recruit 100 people to this game then. Face it, 100+ people is such an unreasonable and unobtainable number that CCP might as well made it 1,000,000 Autumn instead of a Dropsuit. You can't even have 100 freinds on PSN, so how could we possibly invite that many people to play DUST514, let alone encourage them to stay past the grindfest that they face as a new recruit.
As far as I remember, it's 50 recruits, not 100.
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
349
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Posted - 2014.11.02 19:54:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:
As far as I remember, it's 50 recruits, not 100.
50 recruits still strikes me as an unreasonable amount, only the most proactive and popular DUST514 Vloggers, which have a pretty niche and small fan base anyway, would struggle to encourage to attract that many recruits to this game.
And no, you CANT have my ISK!!!
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CoochMaster Flex
Contract Hunters
27
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Posted - 2014.11.02 19:56:00 -
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Has any one actually gotten to 10 recruits? 50 is a lot in my opinion.
CONHU still lives on.
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Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
1287
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Posted - 2014.11.02 19:58:00 -
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The day we get ADV or Proto BPOs is the day I'll put real money into the game again.
At least dropouts...that's all i'm asking.
"Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero
Skype: jaysyn.larrisen
Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
349
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Posted - 2014.11.02 20:10:00 -
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CoochMaster Flex wrote:Has any one actually gotten to 10 recruits? 50 is a lot in my opinion. I've only known 1 guy to have reached 10, but he gave up aftwr that as he said it was too difficult and tedious to constantly check up on recruits who later quit and don't respond to his messages. And I've been playing for over 2 years so I've met A LOT of players.
And no, you CANT have my ISK!!!
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
349
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Posted - 2014.11.02 20:13:00 -
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Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:The day we get ADV or Proto BPOs is the day I'll put real money into the game again.
At least dropouts...that's all i'm asking. All I know is the Master Recruiter C-II is an ADV BPO that has more shields but less armour than a standard Caldari assault suit now has. It was something like over 350 shield but only 76 armour. It's a true shield build suit.
And no, you CANT have my ISK!!!
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club
5750
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Posted - 2014.11.02 20:19:00 -
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meh, i don't give a f*ck anymore.
EVE 21 Day Trial
Selling Templar BPO's
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Maken Tosch
Dust University Ivy League
10057
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Posted - 2014.11.02 20:20:00 -
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Again, this will not be a problem -- at least less of a problem -- after 1.9 due to the series of changes that appears to be favorable to new players. And those recruiter BPO items are suppose to be for those who are good at recruiting and should be rewarded. Rewards should never be purchased.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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CoochMaster Flex
Contract Hunters
27
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Posted - 2014.11.02 20:22:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:CoochMaster Flex wrote:Has any one actually gotten to 10 recruits? 50 is a lot in my opinion. I've only known 1 guy to have reached 10, but he gave up aftwr that as he said it was too difficult and tedious to constantly check up on recruits who later quit and don't respond to his messages. And I've been playing for over 2 years so I've met A LOT of players. I think they should reduce the number of recruits because not a lot of people even hit 5 recruits. Just saying
CONHU still lives on.
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
349
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Posted - 2014.11.02 20:25:00 -
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CoochMaster Flex wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:CoochMaster Flex wrote:Has any one actually gotten to 10 recruits? 50 is a lot in my opinion. I've only known 1 guy to have reached 10, but he gave up aftwr that as he said it was too difficult and tedious to constantly check up on recruits who later quit and don't respond to his messages. And I've been playing for over 2 years so I've met A LOT of players. I think they should reduce the number of recruits because not a lot of people even hit 5 recruits. Just saying
Anything past 25 is unreasonable IMO, as well as unrealistic. It would take a heck of a long time just to hit that many people, so I think a reduction is the least CCP should do, and it'd be even better if we can buy them.
And no, you CANT have my ISK!!!
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Immortal John Ripper
25495
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Posted - 2014.11.02 20:27:00 -
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no and it is not going to happen. It takes away and ruins the incentive for you to invite your friends to join. Game needs to grow. What they need to do is buff the recruitment system, give it more incentive and make it easier for us to advertise this feature for our friends.
I have been diagnosed with "TED" - Taco Eating Disorder.
I can't stop eating tacos.
Best Disorder Ever
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
349
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Posted - 2014.11.02 20:27:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Again, this will not be a problem -- at least less of a problem -- after 1.9 due to the series of changes that appears to be favorable to new players. And those recruiter BPO items are suppose to be for those who are good at recruiting and should be rewarded. Rewards should never be purchased.
Different people support this game in different ways. I support this game financially. I can garauntee I've spent more on this game than 50 casual players who I've recruited ever will. I've spent nearly $600 on this game, so where is my reward for being a loyal and dedicated player.
And no, you CANT have my ISK!!!
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General John Ripper
25496
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Posted - 2014.11.02 20:27:00 -
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no and it is not going to happen. It takes away and ruins the incentive for you to invite your friends to join. Game needs to grow. What they need to do is buff the recruitment system, give it more incentive and make it easier for us to advertise this feature for our friends. Also give it two way rewards if you sign up with a recruitment link, maybe give the player joining from a friends recruitment links an extra sp booster.
I have been diagnosed with "TED" - Taco Eating Disorder.
I can't stop eating tacos.
Best Disorder Ever
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General John Ripper
25496
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Posted - 2014.11.02 20:31:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Again, this will not be a problem -- at least less of a problem -- after 1.9 due to the series of changes that appears to be favorable to new players. And those recruiter BPO items are suppose to be for those who are good at recruiting and should be rewarded. Rewards should never be purchased. Different people support this game in different ways. I support this game financially. I can garauntee I've spent more on this game than 50 casual players who I've recruited ever will. I've spent nearly $600 on this game, so where is my reward for being a loyal and dedicated player. being greedy is bad. kudos for spending money but they should make more bpos for us... not ruin and destroy the incentive for the recruitment drive. 50 casuals is 50 more casuals. believe it or not that is a good thing. Some of them may spend money so that is good too and it increases the game numbers. More people = finding matches faster. more people = greater audience reach by word of mouth. Actually I can go on and on about advantages.
Try and look at the big picture and not think of what you can get for yourself. Again thanks for supporting the game but I completely 100% disagree that players should be able to buy the recruitment rewards. They need to buff the system not dismantle it.
Also your rewards should come from titles. I believe aurum purchases increases your title rank and ingame bonuses from that.
I have been diagnosed with "TED" - Taco Eating Disorder.
I can't stop eating tacos.
Best Disorder Ever
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Immortal John Ripper
25496
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Posted - 2014.11.02 20:31:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Again, this will not be a problem -- at least less of a problem -- after 1.9 due to the series of changes that appears to be favorable to new players. And those recruiter BPO items are suppose to be for those who are good at recruiting and should be rewarded. Rewards should never be purchased. Different people support this game in different ways. I support this game financially. I can garauntee I've spent more on this game than 50 casual players who I've recruited ever will. I've spent nearly $600 on this game, so where is my reward for being a loyal and dedicated player. being greedy is bad. kudos for spending money but they should make more bpos for us... not ruin and destroy the incentive for the recruitment drive. 50 casuals is 50 more casuals. believe it or not that is a good thing. Some of them may spend money so that is good too and it increases the game numbers. More people = finding matches faster. more people = greater audience reach by word of mouth. Actually I can go on and on about advantages.
Try and look at the big picture and not think of what you can get for yourself. Again thanks for supporting the game but I completely 100% disagree that players should be able to buy the recruitment rewards. They need to buff the system not dismantle it.
Also your rewards should come from titles. I believe aurum purchases increases your title rank and ingame bonuses from that.
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
349
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Posted - 2014.11.02 20:37:00 -
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Immortal John Ripper wrote:no and it is not going to happen. It takes away and ruins the incentive for you to invite your friends to join. Game needs to grow. What they need to do is buff the recruitment system, give it more incentive and make it easier for us to advertise this feature for our friends. Also give it two way rewards if you sign up with a recruitment link, maybe give the player joining from a friends recruitment links an extra sp booster. Short of implementing a referral system on all currently existing accounts that have reached and exceeded over 100,000WP, which will allow you to search for the name of the Mercenary that recruited you, and allow you to give credit (or be that award 1 credit) to them for their efforts in reffering you to Dust514, I really can't see there being much else that CCP can do for this recruitment system. I've invited loads of freinds to play this game who didn't know about or forgot to use the recruitment link i sent them, and I think it's unfair that there isn't a way for them to inform CCP that this individual encouraged me to try the game, and should be awarded one clone extra to their recruitment tally because they did indirectly recruit me to the game.
And no, you CANT have my ISK!!!
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
352
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Posted - 2014.11.02 20:51:00 -
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Immortal John Ripper wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Again, this will not be a problem -- at least less of a problem -- after 1.9 due to the series of changes that appears to be favorable to new players. And those recruiter BPO items are suppose to be for those who are good at recruiting and should be rewarded. Rewards should never be purchased. Different people support this game in different ways. I support this game financially. I can garauntee I've spent more on this game than 50 casual players who I've recruited ever will. I've spent nearly $600 on this game, so where is my reward for being a loyal and dedicated player. being greedy is bad. kudos for spending money but they should make more bpos for us... not ruin and destroy the incentive for the recruitment drive. 50 casuals is 50 more casuals. believe it or not that is a good thing. Some of them may spend money so that is good too and it increases the game numbers. More people = finding matches faster. more people = greater audience reach by word of mouth. Actually I can go on and on about advantages. Try and look at the big picture and not think of what you can get for yourself. Again thanks for supporting the game but I completely 100% disagree that players should be able to buy the recruitment rewards. They need to buff the system not dismantle it. Also your rewards should come from titles. I believe aurum purchases increases your title rank and ingame bonuses from that.
Title ranks are based on an XP awarded ranking, of which, total autumn bought and spent is counted is and contributes to the XP awarded and subsequent title awarded. There should be separate titles awarded for people who reach certain milestones or achieve certain feats in game just like in COD. Why should I be recognised by the same rank/title as someone who achieved the same rank simply by having a high WP or K/D. I want people to identify me by a rank that recognises my financial contribution to the game, such as Deep pockets, Oil Baron, Russian Billionaire Oligarch, Impulse Buyer, Poor Financial Manager,
And no, you CANT have my ISK!!!
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
4215
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Posted - 2014.11.02 21:01:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:meh, i don't give a f*ck anymore. The struggles. I'm getting tired myself. |
Nirwanda Vaughns
881
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Posted - 2014.11.02 21:05:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Joel II X wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Joel II X wrote:No. They're special.
Besides, they're militia items with like .3% improvement. We'll then you won't mind people buying them then if "they're militia items", after all, what threat would they pose compared to a standard suit. And as for these BPOs being "special", I have 3 if them and the only special thing about them is how unobtainable some of them are. These Suits and BPOs shouldnt be any more special than the Quafe suit, which originally was a Proto Gallente Scout suit ONLY, but now we have over 12 BPO variations of this type of suit. So these Staff Recruiter BPOs should be made more available to everyone. EDIT: The Master Recruiter Assault C-II is not an ADV Assault BPO. Master Recruiter C-II IS an ADV tier dropsuit. The Staff Recruiter C-I is a standard tier suit, the C-II was an ADV tier.
trust me, the C-II is a STD suit with slightly higher PG/CPU. there are NO advv or higher BPOs they're all STD or MLT.
as for selling the Recruti stuff just work hard to get isk and bribe people to use your recruit link for alts like everyone else is trying to. too me almost 18months and near 900m ISK to pay peopel to use my link for when they wanted an alt and tbh only the C-II is anything different
Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
proud C-II bpo owner
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Son-Of A-Gun
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
1400
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Posted - 2014.11.02 21:10:00 -
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The thing that bugs me about the Staff Recruit rewards is, they're for Caldari players only: the only rewards that are really worth getting are the C-I and C-II dropsuits and the Saga LAV. I am a Gallente Specialist; how does this appeal to me in any way at all?
This is what needs to happen to the Staff Recruit and Recruit rewards:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=178727&find=unread
This is one of the things that needs to change about these rewards before I even start to give a crap. Also I have an idea about how to reach 50 recruits but they need to change the recruit tracking system to display each recruits character name and spacific progress first, before I can implement my plan. I tried to once before and my plan failed because of this.
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Nirwanda Vaughns
881
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Posted - 2014.11.02 21:26:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Again, this will not be a problem -- at least less of a problem -- after 1.9 due to the series of changes that appears to be favorable to new players. And those recruiter BPO items are suppose to be for those who are good at recruiting and should be rewarded. Rewards should never be purchased.
problem is, most peopel recruit when you already in game. some kinda system needs to be in place so you can be associated with a recruit. perhaps where the new player goes to char sheet and puts the recruit 'tag' in a 'referal code' section so mine is UHCR9V a new player i meet in local has just started, i tell him to goto char sheet and at teh bottom where it says 'Recruited by...' you put my 6 digit code in. when he/she relogs they'll receive the booster, bpos ect and they count towards your recruits. once a recruiter tag has been entered they can't enter another one.
Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
proud C-II bpo owner
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Maken Tosch
Dust University Ivy League
10057
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Posted - 2014.11.02 21:42:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Again, this will not be a problem -- at least less of a problem -- after 1.9 due to the series of changes that appears to be favorable to new players. And those recruiter BPO items are suppose to be for those who are good at recruiting and should be rewarded. Rewards should never be purchased. Different people support this game in different ways. I support this game financially. I can garauntee I've spent more on this game than 50 casual players who I've recruited ever will. I've spent nearly $600 on this game, so where is my reward for being a loyal and dedicated player.
That doesn't change my mind at all. Rewards should never be bought. Otherwise they are no longer rewards and the incentive to recruit more players is destroyed because now you can just purchase your achievements online rather than work for them. Because of this, I will never support this idea. As for Immortal John Ripper, I agree with him entirely. The recruiting system just needs to be overhauled. We need a better and more efficient way of tracking the progress of players rather than just constantly messaging players on their status. We need a more efficient way of spreading the word and making it easier for new players to be able to get the recruitment links and use them. But it doesn't have to stop there. New players will need an incentive to keep on players. The SP system in 1.9 favors new players a lot but it can only go so far because the NPE system needs to have better tutorials so that new players can gain a better understanding of what to aim for (look at Eve Online's ISIS -- Interbus Ship Identification System).
Considering that it's now more likely that we will be getting future patches in addition to hotfixes, this seems more possible now. If the above is implemented, then recruiting and tracking 50 players will become less of a chore and more of a fun experience. Which is another thing the recruiting system needs. Make it fun for new recruits and their recruiters.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Maken Tosch
Dust University Ivy League
10057
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Posted - 2014.11.02 21:44:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:The thing that bugs me about the Staff Recruit rewards is, they're for Caldari players only: the only rewards that are really worth getting are the C-I and C-II dropsuits and the Saga LAV. I am a Gallente Specialist; how does this appeal to me in any way at all? This is what needs to happen to the Staff Recruit and Recruit rewards: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=178727&find=unreadThis is one of the things that needs to change about these rewards before I even start to give a crap. Also I have an idea about how to reach 50 recruits but they need to change the recruit tracking system to display each recruits character name and spacific progress first, before I can implement my plan. I tried to once before and my plan failed because of this.
I agree with this. The rewards for the recruiter should be based on the race of recruiter. If you are an Amarrian recruiter you should be rewarded with Amarrian gear because you are more likely to be using Amarrian gear anyways because of your race. It could also be set to be chosen by the player. If you're an Amarr player but like Caldari stuff, you should be able to pick that.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
353
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Posted - 2014.11.02 21:47:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Again, this will not be a problem -- at least less of a problem -- after 1.9 due to the series of changes that appears to be favorable to new players. And those recruiter BPO items are suppose to be for those who are good at recruiting and should be rewarded. Rewards should never be purchased. problem is, most peopel recruit when you already in game. some kinda system needs to be in place so you can be associated with a recruit. perhaps where the new player goes to char sheet and puts the recruit 'tag' in a 'referal code' section so mine is UHCR9V a new player i meet in local has just started, i tell him to goto char sheet and at teh bottom where it says 'Recruited by...' you put my 6 digit code in. when he/she relogs they'll receive the booster, bpos ect and they count towards your recruits. once a recruiter tag has been entered they can't enter another one.
That sounds like an OK idea, but CCP need to take note.
And no, you CANT have my ISK!!!
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Nirwanda Vaughns
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Posted - 2014.11.02 21:48:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Again, this will not be a problem -- at least less of a problem -- after 1.9 due to the series of changes that appears to be favorable to new players. And those recruiter BPO items are suppose to be for those who are good at recruiting and should be rewarded. Rewards should never be purchased. Different people support this game in different ways. I support this game financially. I can garauntee I've spent more on this game than 50 casual players who I've recruited ever will. I've spent nearly $600 on this game, so where is my reward for being a loyal and dedicated player. That doesn't change my mind at all. Rewards should never be bought. Otherwise they are no longer rewards and the incentive to recruit more players is destroyed because now you can just purchase your achievements online rather than work for them. Because of this, I will never support this idea. As for Immortal John Ripper, I agree with him entirely. The recruiting system just needs to be overhauled. We need a better and more efficient way of tracking the progress of players rather than just constantly messaging players on their status. We need a more efficient way of spreading the word and making it easier for new players to be able to get the recruitment links and use them. But it doesn't have to stop there. New players will need an incentive to keep on players. The SP system in 1.9 favors new players a lot but it can only go so far because the NPE system needs to have better tutorials so that new players can gain a better understanding of what to aim for (look at Eve Online's ISIS -- Interbus Ship Identification System). Considering that it's now more likely that we will be getting future patches in addition to hotfixes, this seems more possible now. If the above is implemented, then recruiting and tracking 50 players will become less of a chore and more of a fun experience. Which is another thing the recruiting system needs. Make it fun for new recruits and their recruiters.
for the NPE i've batted about the idea of sec status options fo rpub matches (limiting what gear canbe used based of sec system) or perhaps an Academy+ basically its a game mode that anyone can go into but you can only use MLT/STD gear. this allows vets to go in with new recruits without them coming up against so much proto stomping corps and it will lessen the harsh reality of proper pub matches til they get the hang of the game because as nice as the new match making is, it still throws you up against some high ranking players even as newer players.
hoenstly one of the most eyeopening experiences you can have as a vet is making a brand new character up (gallente is even worse) and running with a group of 5 friends also doing the same. the game as a new player just isn't fun. they die A LOT! and as much as we can say HTFU, someone isn't going to stick with a game they don't enjoy and they'll goto BF/Destiny/CoD and so our playerbase dwindles.
Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
proud C-II bpo owner
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Maken Tosch
Dust University Ivy League
10057
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Posted - 2014.11.02 21:52:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Again, this will not be a problem -- at least less of a problem -- after 1.9 due to the series of changes that appears to be favorable to new players. And those recruiter BPO items are suppose to be for those who are good at recruiting and should be rewarded. Rewards should never be purchased. problem is, most peopel recruit when you already in game. some kinda system needs to be in place so you can be associated with a recruit. perhaps where the new player goes to char sheet and puts the recruit 'tag' in a 'referal code' section so mine is UHCR9V a new player i meet in local has just started, i tell him to goto char sheet and at teh bottom where it says 'Recruited by...' you put my 6 digit code in. when he/she relogs they'll receive the booster, bpos ect and they count towards your recruits. once a recruiter tag has been entered they can't enter another one.
That seems to make sense. I like the idea of recruiting already-existing players. But there needs to be a certain limit. If the player you are looking to recruit happens to be over six months to a year old for some reason but the player doesn't know anything about how Dust works still, you shouldn't be able to recruit that player because he/she should've known by now how to play much of the game during the entire time unless he/she happens to be one of those players who just create an alt and put it on stasis while it matures in Lifetime SP.
However, if the player is relatively new like probably less than a month old, then you should be able to recruit that player for obvious reasons.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Nirwanda Vaughns
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Posted - 2014.11.02 22:01:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Again, this will not be a problem -- at least less of a problem -- after 1.9 due to the series of changes that appears to be favorable to new players. And those recruiter BPO items are suppose to be for those who are good at recruiting and should be rewarded. Rewards should never be purchased. problem is, most peopel recruit when you already in game. some kinda system needs to be in place so you can be associated with a recruit. perhaps where the new player goes to char sheet and puts the recruit 'tag' in a 'referal code' section so mine is UHCR9V a new player i meet in local has just started, i tell him to goto char sheet and at teh bottom where it says 'Recruited by...' you put my 6 digit code in. when he/she relogs they'll receive the booster, bpos ect and they count towards your recruits. once a recruiter tag has been entered they can't enter another one. That seems to make sense. I like the idea of recruiting already-existing players. But there needs to be a certain limit. If the player you are looking to recruit happens to be over six months to a year old for some reason but the player doesn't know anything about how Dust works still, you shouldn't be able to recruit that player because he/she should've known by now how to play much of the game during the entire time unless he/she happens to be one of those players who just create an alt and put it on stasis while it matures in Lifetime SP. However, if the player is relatively new like probably less than a month old, then you should be able to recruit that player for obvious reasons.
yeah deffo, they have to be less than 30-60days old. plus it'd be a good way of enticing them into you rcorp too as they'd get teh 7day booster as well as the bpos
Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
proud C-II bpo owner
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Maken Tosch
Dust University Ivy League
10058
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Posted - 2014.11.02 23:02:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Again, this will not be a problem -- at least less of a problem -- after 1.9 due to the series of changes that appears to be favorable to new players. And those recruiter BPO items are suppose to be for those who are good at recruiting and should be rewarded. Rewards should never be purchased. problem is, most peopel recruit when you already in game. some kinda system needs to be in place so you can be associated with a recruit. perhaps where the new player goes to char sheet and puts the recruit 'tag' in a 'referal code' section so mine is UHCR9V a new player i meet in local has just started, i tell him to goto char sheet and at teh bottom where it says 'Recruited by...' you put my 6 digit code in. when he/she relogs they'll receive the booster, bpos ect and they count towards your recruits. once a recruiter tag has been entered they can't enter another one. That seems to make sense. I like the idea of recruiting already-existing players. But there needs to be a certain limit. If the player you are looking to recruit happens to be over six months to a year old for some reason but the player doesn't know anything about how Dust works still, you shouldn't be able to recruit that player because he/she should've known by now how to play much of the game during the entire time unless he/she happens to be one of those players who just create an alt and put it on stasis while it matures in Lifetime SP. However, if the player is relatively new like probably less than a month old, then you should be able to recruit that player for obvious reasons. yeah deffo, they have to be less than 30-60days old. plus it'd be a good way of enticing them into you rcorp too as they'd get teh 7day booster as well as the bpos
It would be great for the likes of D-UNI and finally get the corp active again.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
2624
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Posted - 2014.11.02 23:07:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote: No. get recruiting mister billy no mates
And I suppose you have managed to recruit 100 people to this game then. Face it, 100+ people is such an unreasonable and unobtainable number that CCP might as well made it 1,000,000 Autumn instead of a Dropsuit. You can't even have 100 freinds on PSN, so how could we possibly invite that many people to play DUST514, let alone encourage them to stay past the grindfest that they face as a new recruit.
Those of us with EVE connections have done so using our corp mates ;)
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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