DUST Search - Small Laser buff

Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote:

John Demonsbane wrote:

Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote:

John Demonsbane wrote:

You can do about 2500 HP damage before overheating on a non-Amarr suit without proficiency or damage mods.

Sure, you can do over 1000 more with the assault, but 2500 is nothing to scoff at.

Source: Me (after stealing it from Musta Tornius)

Also: if you made this a skill and added it to the Amarr assault bonus...... Twisted

You nonbelievers will all burn.

This calculation was done before the buff on lr if I recall correctly .. ( sone of these numbers came from me if I remember right ) dps us drastically higher now and early dmg ramp up is much stronger ..no one has done the math on new lr stats that i know off

It was drastically buffed in the invisible stat it has called dmg multiplier is why I told you to stop preheating John ..thanks to that change the ramp up is much faster now

http://m.imgur.com/yafK8eW

I'm not preheating as much anymore, don't worry!

BTW, the math is current, Musta Tornius and BAMM havoc tested it extensively after 1.8.

Oh well cool did they factor in damage in cqc lol ..look at you efficacy at cqc John what is it? Mines 75% I've been running lr exclusively for months n months past two days i decided to try and compete at ar ranges ..i find my field of death is 40m -120m

no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil

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PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 242	Posted - 2014.10.28 20:26:00 - [1] - Quote I love the laser rifle and have used it since beta. I saw it being used by everyone and then thrown out for the newer better guns, then buffed, and buffed again. I have prof 4, ammo 4, and am planing on getting level 5 on those. Im asking that the laser have a slight heat reduction or a skill that reduces the heat. Right now only Amarr assaults can take advantage of the heat damage increase because they can take more heat, but anyone else can't heat up the gun to get without overheating or running out of ammo. So when I'm working on a heavy's armour i have little ammo left and I'm just starting to heat up, so you can't use the laser strategically unless your an amarr assault. If there was a skill for it it could be 3% heat reduction or something so the Amarr assault still has the edge using it but its still viable for other suits. Also, please reduce the Laser ADS sensitivity its impossible to aim well, and you have to have your ads sense down for all your other guns to. 44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault (1.7) `- Open Beta Vet - 30.5mil sp -` R.I.P. Dust 514
BL4CKST4R La Muerte Eterna Dark Taboo 3236	Posted - 2014.10.28 20:38:00 - [2] - Quote PLAYSTTION wrote: I love the laser rifle and have used it since beta. I saw it being used by everyone and then thrown out for the newer better guns, then buffed, and buffed again. I have prof 4, ammo 4, and am planing on getting level 5 on those. Im asking that the laser have a slight heat reduction or a skill that reduces the heat. Right now only Amarr assaults can take advantage of the heat damage increase because they can take more heat, but anyone else can't heat up the gun to get without overheating or running out of ammo. So when I'm working on a heavy's armour i have little ammo left and I'm just starting to heat up, so you can't use the laser strategically unless your an amarr assault. If there was a skill for it it could be 3% heat reduction or something so the Amarr assault still has the edge using it but its still viable for other suits. Also, please reduce the Laser ADS sensitivity its impossible to aim well, and you have to have your ads sense down for all your other guns to. It wasn't thrown away for the newer guns it was needed because it was open as hell. supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 4298	Posted - 2014.10.28 21:10:00 - [3] - Quote You can do about 2500 HP damage before overheating on a non-Amarr suit without proficiency or damage mods. Sure, you can do over 1000 more with the assault, but 2500 is nothing to scoff at. Source: Me (after stealing it from Musta Tornius) Also: if you made this a skill and added it to the Amarr assault bonus...... You nonbelievers will all burn. (The godfather of tactical logistics)
Blueprint For Murder Immortal Guides 189	Posted - 2014.10.28 22:40:00 - [4] - Quote I am not complaining at all when I say this: I use the LR on an ak commando and while I have higher capacity for sustained fire do to my extra armor my LR will often over heat before then. Neither laser weapon has the capability for sustained fire (the commandos primary role?). I have no concern for the other racial suites just though I would bring this up along with the fact that the damage bonus is negligible and probably overtaken by the assault buff and even other suits do to the commandos slot restrictions. The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
The Master Race Immortal Guides 190	Posted - 2014.10.28 22:40:00 - [5] - Quote I am not complaining at all when I say this: I use the LR on an ak commando and while I have higher capacity for sustained fire do to my extra armor my LR will often over heat before then. Neither laser weapon has the capability for sustained fire (the commandos primary role?). I have no concern for the other racial suites just though I would bring this up along with the fact that the damage bonus is negligible and probably overtaken by the assault buff and even other suits do to the commandos slot restrictions. The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 242	Posted - 2014.10.29 01:21:00 - [6] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: You can do about 2500 HP damage before overheating on a non-Amarr suit without proficiency or damage mods. Sure, you can do over 1000 more with the assault, but 2500 is nothing to scoff at. Source: Me (after stealing it from Musta Tornius) Also: if you made this a skill and added it to the Amarr assault bonus...... You nonbelievers will all burn. I know it can do damage but how much is actually on target? the ads speed is impossible and its a hard gun to aim anyway. 44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault (1.7) `- Open Beta Vet - 30.5mil sp -` R.I.P. Dust 514
manboar thunder fist Dead Man's Game RUST415 182	Posted - 2014.10.29 01:54:00 - [7] - Quote Welcome to nerf amarrian weaponry 514, what you are pointing out is an issue I have raised countless times. The scr and laser are weapons in their own right and should be comparatively effective to alternative guns WITHOUT a bl**dy Amarr assault!!!! If I can use a shotgun commando why can't i use my laser tech on a scout without gimping myself! NERF SCOUTS, NERF TANKS, NERF AV, NERF ASSAULTS, NERF LOGIS, NERF HEAVIES nerf life Delta- bye bye ads, bye bye scr
PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 243	Posted - 2014.10.29 01:58:00 - [8] - Quote manboar thunder fist wrote: Welcome to nerf amarrian weaponry 514, what you are pointing out is an issue I have raised countless times. The scr and laser are weapons in their own right and should be comparatively effective to alternative guns WITHOUT a bl**dy Amarr assault!!!! If I can use a shotgun commando why can't i use my laser tech on a scout without gimping myself! Yes!!! but making them better for us non-believers makes them OP for the believers! Just put it back the way it was in beta but remove DMG mods from affecting lasers. 44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault (1.7) `- Open Beta Vet - 30.5mil sp -` R.I.P. Dust 514
manboar thunder fist Dead Man's Game RUST415 182	Posted - 2014.10.29 02:02:00 - [9] - Quote In my opinion The laser just needs more dps at 100m than the rr NERF SCOUTS, NERF TANKS, NERF AV, NERF ASSAULTS, NERF LOGIS, NERF HEAVIES nerf life Delta- bye bye ads, bye bye scr
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 302	Posted - 2014.10.29 03:16:00 - [10] - Quote You must really suck at dust if you think lr should be buffed As for speed sensitivity making aiming impossible TELL THAT TO MY HEADSHOT RATING LEARN HOW TO AIM GET GUD Cut your sensitivity down if your incapable of controlling the lr. no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 302	Posted - 2014.10.29 03:18:00 - [11] - Quote manboar thunder fist wrote: In my opinion The laser just needs more dps at 100m than the rr The lr out ranges rr and i believe it's final dps us stronger as well so there ya go If ccp buffs lr and makes me completely op and then nerfs my role to hell because scrubs with no aim QQ that they can't get gud with lr .I'm going to be upset no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 302	Posted - 2014.10.29 03:21:00 - [12] - Quote PLAYSTTION wrote: manboar thunder fist wrote: Welcome to nerf amarrian weaponry 514, what you are pointing out is an issue I have raised countless times. The scr and laser are weapons in their own right and should be comparatively effective to alternative guns WITHOUT a bl**dy Amarr assault!!!! If I can use a shotgun commando why can't i use my laser tech on a scout without gimping myself! Yes!!! but making them better for us non-believers makes them OP for the believers! Just put it back the way it was in beta but remove DMG mods from affecting lasers. Remove damage mods from effecting lr...why ? Makes 0 sense because they effect every gun in the game. Your ideas are terrible if you dont like the lr stop using otherwise u should end your meaningless qq..lr is borderline op and does need a buff because it sucks in YOUR hands no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 302	Posted - 2014.10.29 03:24:00 - [13] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: You can do about 2500 HP damage before overheating on a non-Amarr suit without proficiency or damage mods. Sure, you can do over 1000 more with the assault, but 2500 is nothing to scoff at. Source: Me (after stealing it from Musta Tornius) Also: if you made this a skill and added it to the Amarr assault bonus...... You nonbelievers will all burn. This calculation was done before the buff on lr if I recall correctly .. ( sone of these numbers came from me if I remember right ) dps us drastically higher now and early dmg ramp up is much stronger ..no one has done the math on new lr stats that i know off It was drastically buffed in the invisible stat it has called dmg multiplier is why I told you to stop preheating John ..thanks to that change the ramp up is much faster now http://m.imgur.com/yafK8eW no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 4309	Posted - 2014.10.29 03:33:00 - [14] - Quote Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: You can do about 2500 HP damage before overheating on a non-Amarr suit without proficiency or damage mods. Sure, you can do over 1000 more with the assault, but 2500 is nothing to scoff at. Source: Me (after stealing it from Musta Tornius) Also: if you made this a skill and added it to the Amarr assault bonus...... You nonbelievers will all burn. This calculation was done before the buff on lr if I recall correctly .. ( sone of these numbers came from me if I remember right ) dps us drastically higher now and early dmg ramp up is much stronger ..no one has done the math on new lr stats that i know off It was drastically buffed in the invisible stat it has called dmg multiplier is why I told you to stop preheating John ..thanks to that change the ramp up is much faster now http://m.imgur.com/yafK8eW I'm not preheating as much anymore, don't worry! BTW, the math is current, Musta Tornius and BAMM havoc tested it extensively after 1.8. (The godfather of tactical logistics)
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 302	Posted - 2014.10.29 04:10:00 - [15] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: You can do about 2500 HP damage before overheating on a non-Amarr suit without proficiency or damage mods. Sure, you can do over 1000 more with the assault, but 2500 is nothing to scoff at. Source: Me (after stealing it from Musta Tornius) Also: if you made this a skill and added it to the Amarr assault bonus...... You nonbelievers will all burn. This calculation was done before the buff on lr if I recall correctly .. ( sone of these numbers came from me if I remember right ) dps us drastically higher now and early dmg ramp up is much stronger ..no one has done the math on new lr stats that i know off It was drastically buffed in the invisible stat it has called dmg multiplier is why I told you to stop preheating John ..thanks to that change the ramp up is much faster now http://m.imgur.com/yafK8eW I'm not preheating as much anymore, don't worry! BTW, the math is current, Musta Tornius and BAMM havoc tested it extensively after 1.8. Oh well cool did they factor in damage in cqc lol ..look at you efficacy at cqc John what is it? Mines 75% I've been running lr exclusively for months n months past two days i decided to try and compete at ar ranges ..i find my field of death is 40m -120m no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 302	Posted - 2014.10.29 04:32:00 - [16] - Quote Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: You can do about 2500 HP damage before overheating on a non-Amarr suit without proficiency or damage mods. Sure, you can do over 1000 more with the assault, but 2500 is nothing to scoff at. Source: Me (after stealing it from Musta Tornius) Also: if you made this a skill and added it to the Amarr assault bonus...... You nonbelievers will all burn. This calculation was done before the buff on lr if I recall correctly .. ( sone of these numbers came from me if I remember right ) dps us drastically higher now and early dmg ramp up is much stronger ..no one has done the math on new lr stats that i know off It was drastically buffed in the invisible stat it has called dmg multiplier is why I told you to stop preheating John ..thanks to that change the ramp up is much faster now http://m.imgur.com/yafK8eW I'm not preheating as much anymore, don't worry! BTW, the math is current, Musta Tornius and BAMM havoc tested it extensively after 1.8. Oh well cool did they factor in damage in cqc lol ..look at you efficacy at cqc John what is it? Mines 75% I've been running lr exclusively for months n months past two days i decided to try and compete at ar ranges ..i find my field of death is 40m -120m The gentleman's weapon lol o lobe u John n u even gave me a shout out gg..I'm sick atm n drunk ignore my spellin no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
BAMM HAVOC Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 580	Posted - 2014.10.29 04:42:00 - [17] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: the math is current, Musta Tornius and BAMM HAVOC tested it extensively after 1.8. Grit_Breather, Musta Tornius, BigPapasmurf and G_Torq did the math and crunched the numbers I was the lab rat getting shot at to prove them. . But thanks for the shout out dude. If you need a reference to these performance figures have a look here all weapons, suits and gear are covered, its what I use to build my heavy suits and it bloody works ... unlike others YOU TUBES BEERCANATER PLUS BACON !
Lloyd Orfay Commando Perkone Caldari State 130	Posted - 2014.10.29 06:36:00 - [18] - Quote If anything the laser rifle needs inaccuracy, slightly moe effective range and the sensitivity changed to a reasonable level. I was thinking for it to have an effect where it's very very inaccurate but the longer you hold the trigger the more precise the beam becomes. A bit reasonable, as with Amarr suits, proto, or other circumstancs the weapon razes teams down. People that can't achieve greatness without exploitation don't deserve to exist. Enroll in scout erradication today.
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 302	Posted - 2014.10.29 11:14:00 - [19] - Quote Apparently lr doesn't even warrant being tracked by ccp with all the other battle rifles ...i remove my arguments go ahead fight to make mortedeamor op ..my gun deserves more respect than that ccp. it saddens me that so few recognize The power of the lr no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 303	Posted - 2014.10.29 11:30:00 - [20] - Quote Lloyd Orfay wrote: A bit reasonable, as with Amarr suits, proto, or other circumstancs the weapon razes teams down. Muwahahahaaha Yet it isn't considered a general use rifle ..not even worth tracking clearly it could be buffed not nerfed no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
Racro 01 Arifistan 501st Knights of Leanbox 440	Posted - 2014.10.29 11:39:00 - [21] - Quote i have no problem using my viziam on my gall assault. *Elite Gallenten Soldier*
PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 243	Posted - 2014.10.29 11:58:00 - [22] - Quote Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: i have no problem using my viziam on my gall assault. Yea me to. Prof 4 and damage mods does all the work tho, not the heat. 44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault (1.7) `- Open Beta Vet - 30.5mil sp -` R.I.P. Dust 514
PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 243	Posted - 2014.10.29 11:59:00 - [23] - Quote Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: You must really suck at dust if you think lr should be buffed As for speed sensitivity making aiming impossible TELL THAT TO MY HEADSHOT RATING LEARN HOW TO AIM GET GUD Cut your sensitivity down if your incapable of controlling the lr. have you tried the lasers ads speed? Its way to sensitive so you turn your sensitivity down then you can aim with your other guns 44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault (1.7) `- Open Beta Vet - 30.5mil sp -` R.I.P. Dust 514
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 303	Posted - 2014.10.29 12:05:00 - [24] - Quote PLAYSTTION wrote: Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: You must really suck at dust if you think lr should be buffed As for speed sensitivity making aiming impossible TELL THAT TO MY HEADSHOT RATING LEARN HOW TO AIM GET GUD Cut your sensitivity down if your incapable of controlling the lr. have you tried the lasers ads speed? Its way to sensitive so you turn your sensitivity down then you can aim with your other guns Seriously look at my sig ..of course I've tried it ..i just did 3 matches with it it's MY MAIN KILLING TOOL ..I've broken 70 kills with mlt lr ..I've broken 55 flawlessly with standard assault LR ..lol I've been assaulting with lr since it came out i know how sensitive it is no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 305	Posted - 2014.10.29 12:09:00 - [25] - Quote I'm half blind so I have my settings a bit low anyway but.. I don't use right analog to aim I use my strafe for small aiming adjustments my arms for large adjustment Try it Set ur lr right over someone's head .cook it and take a step back..bam headshot death touch You see four people all with rr at 8pm away hopscotch it from one go another as they move behind cover first two will prolly make it to cover safely but the next 3 will die the last so fast it'll be instantaneous I'll check my sensitivity settings sec .. I run 35 35 ads 40 40 normally I'm a blind pothead yet I have over 70 lifetime and at least a quarter of that is lr. no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 4129	Posted - 2014.10.29 12:21:00 - [26] - Quote drop three damage mods on a viziam. Watch people shriek like little girls who just went into their first haunted house. It's that simple. The STD/ADV are kinda meh. the proto lasers are death incarnate. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1543	Posted - 2014.10.29 12:34:00 - [27] - Quote if I am not mistaken laser adds 0.8 damage per continous shot fired. on amarr assault you can fire for ~6.3 seconds with it, couple it with 3 damage mods and melt the universe. after 2 seconds, the dps is already very powerful and you will be able to kill very fast. after 3-4 seconds a short stream into the head and target usually instantly drops. the weapon does not really need a buff, it is very powerful at long range.
Orber Gen Academy Inferno E-R-A 220	Posted - 2014.10.29 12:41:00 - [28] - Quote PLAYSTTION wrote: I love the laser rifle and have used it since beta. I saw it being used by everyone and then thrown out for the newer better guns, then buffed, and buffed again. I have prof 4, ammo 4, and am planing on getting level 5 on those. Im asking that the laser have a slight heat reduction or a skill that reduces the heat. Right now only Amarr assaults can take advantage of the heat damage increase because they can take more heat, but anyone else can't heat up the gun to get without overheating or running out of ammo. So when I'm working on a heavy's armour i have little ammo left and I'm just starting to heat up, so you can't use the laser strategically unless your an amarr assault. If there was a skill for it it could be 3% heat reduction or something so the Amarr assault still has the edge using it but its still viable for other suits. Also, please reduce the Laser ADS sensitivity its impossible to aim well, and you have to have your ads sense down for all your other guns to. Laser is just perfect now. Laser is my main weapon, It requires some skill, and this is great.
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 306	Posted - 2014.10.29 13:00:00 - [29] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: drop three damage mods on a viziam. Watch people shriek like little girls who just went into their first haunted house. It's that simple. The STD/ADV are kinda meh. the proto lasers are death incarnate. They are all death with skill I've posted plenty of nasty stomps in mlt lr even more cruel with advanced ..The proto is a machine of death .. The adv is the best to run consistently like all adv gear Number one tip to people who are learning to run lr..run mlt with proto assault skills best training suit is like this mlt lr 1 comp dmg mod 1 enhanced dmg mod adv suit max skills 2 complex reps 2 enhanced plates mlt lr has 80 round clip so you over heat at round 0 helps enforce instinctive trigger control will lower the chances of overheating ...builds that instinctive line here us where i overheat ..eye balling a clip us easier than eye balling 4/5 of a clip no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 4314	Posted - 2014.10.29 15:23:00 - [30] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: if I am not mistaken laser adds 0.8 damage per continous shot fired. on amarr assault you can fire for ~6.3 seconds with it, couple it with 3 damage mods and melt the universe. after 2 seconds, the dps is already very powerful and you will be able to kill very fast. after 3-4 seconds a short stream into the head and target usually instantly drops. the weapon does not really need a buff, it is very powerful at long range. It's not a flat 0.8 anymore, it changes with the tier. It's now 0.91 at STD, 1.04 at PRO. I'm not sure what it is at ADV, somewhere in the middle, obviously. You can do just fine with the lower tiers if you do it right. The Amarr assault bonus makes a bigger difference than going up a level, afaik, though admittedly I've never done the full calculations. (Morte, you need to get yourself a Templar LR and stop slumming it with that MLT nonsense, btw!) (The godfather of tactical logistics)

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