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Cavani1EE7
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.28 13:51:00 -
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Also considering that we'll be able to stack boosters up to three, does anybody else feel like this is kinda too high?
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Dust User
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
904
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Posted - 2014.10.28 13:57:00 -
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I don't cap out anyways so who cares. |
Cavani1EE7
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
352
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Posted - 2014.10.28 14:02:00 -
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Dust User wrote:I don't cap out anyways so who cares.
That's why I care, because I don't cap. I don't want people to reach insane high skill points levels in a couple weeks (by using for example three omega active boosters).
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NextDark Knight
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
527
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Posted - 2014.10.28 14:05:00 -
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It's a problem... CCP should give out cap enhancers.. Where 4 times a year we get a item that lets you increase the skill cap. You can activate them when you have the time to cap out.. otherwise you can save them up. BTW, they are like neural remaps and should not be transferable in player trade.
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John Psi
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC
Steel Balls Alliance
991
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Posted - 2014.10.28 14:10:00 -
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not understood - 750k is a cap result only for 3x booster stack?
or if 3x booster stack this mean 750 x 6 as result? oO
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Harpyja
Legio DXIV
2203
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Posted - 2014.10.28 14:14:00 -
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This actually makes me realize just how much capping out is making me play. I usually cap on the Monday or Tuesday and then switch to my alt, but now, I'm not sure if I'll play more or less with an increased cap which I'll nevr hit.
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
1042
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Posted - 2014.10.28 14:18:00 -
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Are they raw, or do they have diminishing returns? The conundrum.
if booster = 1.5
is it 750k * booster *booster * booster = 2,531,250
or is it 750k * (booster + booster +booster) = 1,875,000
Omegaz
mult applied 6,000,000
add applied 2,250,000
I think these are the numbers of EXTRA Sp generated, not including base. (pretty sure the numbers in the add columns are messed up as they were done in haste)
ALSO:
Base earning is 2x SP
http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU
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Harpyja
Legio DXIV
2204
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Posted - 2014.10.28 14:36:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Are they raw, or do they have diminishing returns? The conundrum.
if booster = 1.5
is it 750k * booster *booster * booster = 2,531,250
or is it 750k * (booster + booster +booster) = 1,875,000
Omegaz
mult applied 6,000,000
add applied 2,250,000
I think these are the numbers of EXTRA Sp generated, not including base. (pretty sure the numbers in the add columns are messed up as they were done in haste)
ALSO:
Base earning is 2x SP
I thought it was mentioned that WP to SP will be essentially doubled. Knowing from past SP events, the average game with double WP SP is not even close to double the total SP earned, only because the passive SP earned makes such a large fraction of your earned SP.
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
1042
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Posted - 2014.10.28 14:38:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:
I thought it was mentioned that WP to SP will be essentially doubled. Knowing from past SP events, the average game with double WP SP is not even close to double the total SP earned, only because the passive SP earned makes such a large fraction of your earned SP.
Yes, they said doubled. They did not specify What would double.
http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU
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Crimson ShieId
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
1183
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Posted - 2014.10.28 14:48:00 -
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Wait, what's this about being able to stack boosters? 
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John Psi
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC
Steel Balls Alliance
991
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Posted - 2014.10.28 14:50:00 -
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my calculation:
1. Each omega give u 750k bonus.
2. If u have 3x omega u have 750-à3=2250k
3. 2250+750(basic cap)=3000k
so, 3kk with 3x Omega per week.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.10.28 14:52:00 -
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Your concern is unfounded.
SP Boosters don't increase how much SP you get per week, only how much SP you get per match, meaning you can stack 50 Omegas if you wanted and you'd still have a 750k cap like everyone else.
Though you would cap out very quickly.
The 1st Matari Commando
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Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
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Posted - 2014.10.28 14:53:00 -
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Cavani1EE7 wrote:Also considering that we'll be able to stack boosters up to three, does anybody else feel like this is kinda too high?
I actually like it. I dont cap out every week, but when I do, it's on Saturday, so i've got four days of gameplay getting 500SP per battle. It's a waste of my resources, I feel. It'll damn near impossible for me to cap out now, but I like the new number.
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1913 DfLo
ScReWeD uP InC
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Posted - 2014.10.28 14:54:00 -
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I usually hit the cap
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Everything Dies
LIFE IS KILLING ME
1044
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Posted - 2014.10.28 14:54:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Harpyja wrote:
I thought it was mentioned that WP to SP will be essentially doubled. Knowing from past SP events, the average game with double WP SP is not even close to double the total SP earned, only because the passive SP earned makes such a large fraction of your earned SP.
Yes, they said doubled. They did not specify What would double.
War points are being boosted into SP to (hopefully) reward active play instead of AFKing to gain passive SP, as per the patch notes.
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John Psi
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC
Steel Balls Alliance
991
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Posted - 2014.10.28 14:57:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Your concern is unfounded.
SP Boosters don't increase how much SP you get per week, only how much SP you get per match, meaning you can stack 50 Omegas if you wanted and you'd still have a 750k cap like everyone else.
Though you would cap out very quickly.
u sure?
I thought that when using omega i got cap -à2...
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
Dark Taboo
229
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Posted - 2014.10.28 15:34:00 -
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and while you complain we'll all be gaining mad sp :3
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Kalante Schiffer
YOU GOT OWNED BY A CHRONIC FAPPER
800
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Posted - 2014.10.28 15:41:00 -
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John Psi wrote:Atiim wrote:Your concern is unfounded.
SP Boosters don't increase how much SP you get per week, only how much SP you get per match, meaning you can stack 50 Omegas if you wanted and you'd still have a 750k cap like everyone else.
Though you would cap out very quickly. u sure? I thought that when using omega i got cap -à2... ....
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
2182
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Posted - 2014.10.28 15:46:00 -
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Currently as it stands.
190k ish cap or so then there after a maximum of 1k SP per battle. + your passive SP that is a constant.
Using regular active booster from Wednesday after downtime you can increase your theoretical 'cap' to 285k-ish.
Using an omega active booster from Wednesday after DT you go up to 380k -ish.
So I don't know exactly how this new cap of 750k is going to work. Quite possibly it is a HARD cap where you can either reach it slowly with 0 boosters or reach it really fast with a couple of boosters running. I'm not sure on that part though.
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Dust User
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
904
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Posted - 2014.10.28 15:46:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:and while you complain we'll all be gaining mad sp :3
And while you gain your mad SP in pubs we will be playing PC.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.10.28 15:46:00 -
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John Psi wrote:
u sure?
I thought that when using omega i got cap -à2...
Read the description:
Quote:Boosters are biomechanical grafts designed to stimulate nerve growth and neurotransmitter activity, temporarily increasing cognitive processes. The graft will degrade over time until it is completely absorbed by the body and ceases to function.
Active Boosters add a percentage bonus to the number of skill points earned per match. They do not increase the number of skill points remaining in the active skill pool.
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Kalante Schiffer
YOU GOT OWNED BY A CHRONIC FAPPER
803
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Posted - 2014.10.28 15:51:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Currently as it stands.
190k ish cap or so then there after a maximum of 1k SP per battle. + your passive SP that is a constant.
Using regular active booster from Wednesday after downtime you can increase your theoretical 'cap' to 285k-ish.
Using an omega active booster from Wednesday after DT you go up to 380k -ish.
So I don't know exactly how this new cap of 750k is going to work. Quite possibly it is a HARD cap where you can either reach it slowly with 0 boosters or reach it really fast with a couple of boosters running. I'm not sure on that part though. hitting the cap is going to take a while thats for sure, maybe thats why they implemented the stacking.
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Atiim
13195
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Posted - 2014.10.28 15:55:00 -
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Kalante Schiffer wrote:the cap is going to take a while thats for sure, maybe thats why they implemented the stacking.
The SP obtained per match will be increasing, along with the new "Loyalty Rank" system which also increases how much SP you obtain per match.
It'll take a bit longer, but I'm sure it won't be too much.
The 1st Matari Commando
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John Psi
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC
Steel Balls Alliance
991
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Posted - 2014.10.28 15:57:00 -
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Atiim wrote:John Psi wrote:
u sure?
I thought that when using omega i got cap -à2...
Read the description: Quote:Boosters are biomechanical grafts designed to stimulate nerve growth and neurotransmitter activity, temporarily increasing cognitive processes. The graft will degrade over time until it is completely absorbed by the body and ceases to function.
Active Boosters add a percentage bonus to the number of skill points earned per match. They do not increase the number of skill points remaining in the active skill pool.
fact: current cap is 196k, if u using omega, u got 196x2=392k sp.
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Atiim
13195
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Posted - 2014.10.28 15:59:00 -
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John Psi wrote:
fact: current cap is 196k, if u using omega, u got 196x2=392k sp.
Source?
The 1st Matari Commando
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John Psi
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC
Steel Balls Alliance
991
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Posted - 2014.10.28 16:04:00 -
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Atiim wrote:John Psi wrote:
fact: current cap is 196k, if u using omega, u got 196x2=392k sp.
Source?
lol, my 55kk sp and common sense.
The use of (omega) boosters is not intended to rapidly reach the upper limit of week cap.
Using (omega) boosters designed for doubling week cap (by bonus from booster).
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
43
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Posted - 2014.10.28 16:21:00 -
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Atiim wrote:John Psi wrote:
fact: current cap is 196k, if u using omega, u got 196x2=392k sp.
Source?
It does effectively increase your cap. When you finish a match, notice how the SP is taken from your cap and the booster bonus is not. This means you are getting either 50% or 100% on top of your cap. And it is something I am also concerned about when stacking.
Don't worry, much like the amarr and gallente scoit description, it is wrong. |
Duke Noobiam
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
231
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Posted - 2014.10.28 16:33:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Your concern is unfounded.
SP Boosters don't increase how much SP you get per week, only how much SP you get per match, meaning you can stack 50 Omegas if you wanted and you'd still have a 750k cap like everyone else.
Though you would cap out very quickly.
This is not how active boosters work. They do increase your weekly total, look at how much your available SP changes after a match. It only goes down by the base amount you earned, the booster SP is extra SP added to this.
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Duke Noobiam
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
231
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Posted - 2014.10.28 16:37:00 -
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Hopefully, this is just a result of a poorly written release note and that the actual hard cap including stacked boosters is 750000.
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
1043
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Posted - 2014.10.28 17:11:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Your concern is unfounded.
SP Boosters don't increase how much SP you get per week, only how much SP you get per match, meaning you can stack 50 Omegas if you wanted and you'd still have a 750k cap like everyone else.
Though you would cap out very quickly.
When was this change implemented? Last time I used a booster I was given all of the base SP + the boosted Extra SP.
As you quoted prior, the boosters do not affect the cap of BASE SP. It says nothing about the boost being counted toward the cap.
http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU
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