Buying a respect for air is no were near pay to win in any way. Ps2 is buying a item in a gam and it stronger than a item you can buy with in game currency. This is just helping people who make mistakes fix this mistakes.

How is paying for a respec P2W exactly?

How is this a pay-to-win?!?

Look at a traditional MMO. Most of these games will allow you to change your skills around. Changing your skills only changes your play style. It does not give you a distinct advantage. It does not give you better gear than what you can buy with ISK... Your argument is invalid, your logic unfounded.

Pay to win would be like hanging out BPO's of prototype level. Or giving an item, of any type, that is better than the prototype gear. You guys need to calm down...

Yeah its common practice in MMOs, but that doesn't change the fact that it gives someone who is willing to spend money an advantage. P2W doesn't just come in the form of assets or abilities, and being able to switch up skills at a moment's notice without penalty as opposed to someone who has to spend weeks to get that same skill is a HUGE advantage.

Of course I'm assuming the worst here, CCP could cap it's uses.

Yeah its common practice in MMOs, but that doesn't change the fact that it gives someone who is willing to spend money an advantage. P2W doesn't just come in the form of assets or abilities. Being able to switch up skills at a moment's notice without penalty as opposed to someone who has to spend weeks to get that same skill is a HUGE advantage.

Of course I'm assuming the worst here, CCP could cap it's uses.

As long as it is expensive enough to prevent abuse I'm all for it. I think it needs to cost somewhere around 75k aurum.

It isn't pay to win because if you keep respeccing, you'll keep losing ISK, you only get 80% from skill books and it resets everything in the tree. Yes players with billions won't be affected but most vets have saved up tons of SP so they could just get the suit anyway and + no suit is OP atm

As long as it is expensive enough to prevent abuse I'm all for it. I think it needs to cost somewhere around 75k aurum.

Yep, terrible change and a very clear statement that CCP will change their polices instantly without informing us. They stated a year ago or so that they will NOT BE DOING ANY MORE RESPECS. And now, by allowing them, we are going to have flavour of the month 100% in most matches.

I'm quite tired of this same argument being posted time and time again.

So, what if CCP stated a year ago that they wouldn't be doing any more respecs? They stated many things in the past that never came to be or they had gone back on. Are you really going to hold this against them? They're a company providing a service which they hope to turn a profit from. The addition of purchasable respecs is nothing more than a smart business move that will ultimately help CCP in continuing to provide this service to its consumers.

Additionally, please stop this "FOTM" bullshit already. What fit of the month could possibly be left for anyone who has been here at least half a year? If players are not skilled into Scouts, then I can guarantee you they at the very least have a Heavy. If players are not skilled into the Combat Rifle, I can guarantee you that they have at least a few points into the Rail Rifle.

This "FOTM" crap needs to go. There is no possible way for it to worsen past this point. Everyone has everything and in order to stay relevant and competitive, they resort to what works best.

I'm sitting on a nice amount of SP with all necessary core and passive skills fully upgraded. I have several suits that I am able to wear at Proto level along with 90% of all infantry weapons up to at least operations five. I have what I need to stay relevant. However, unlike you and so many others, I am not opposed to the idea of respecs. I may not need one, but I will purchase and use one just because it will be available.

Will I lose out on ISK? Yes. Will I waste my time by redistributing all points into the same exact skills? Of course, but in the end this is really my way of saying "thanks" to CCP for their efforts in trying to stay relevant to not only my interests, but the interests of many more who have waited for the opprtunity to fix and amend the mistakes they have made early on in their Dust careers.

How much is that when it comes to real world money??

Refunds and Resets only purchasable through AUR. Hm. Can we get more details of this system, can you do it whenever or is there a limit?

Refunds and Resets only purchasable through AUR. Hm. Can we get more details of this system, can you do it whenever or is there a limit?

The trick to making F2P games is to be on the edge of P2W... without falling off.

I don't believe this is pay to win. This is pay to undo mistakes, and it has an additional ISK penalty associated with it as well.

I think it will probably be cost prohibitive for most to respec every time the meta changes.

Bear in mind, in addition to the AUR cost, there is a secondary penalty: Only getting an 80% refund on skill book ISK. While this is not a huge penalty for newer players, as many skills cost close to a million ISK, characters with high SP will lose probably 10-20 million ISK or more in this transaction.

Is it not just a refund to a single skill?

I am going to lean on the use of all plural references to skills and skillbooks in the patch notes. "Reset your skills" generally does not refer to unlearning a single skill.

I was under the impression:

Respec - Every skill
Refund - A single tree / Skill

You could skill into the FOTM instantly, as opposed to someone who would have to grind to get it. I think everyone should get one yearly refund, but you can buy an extra one for AUR each year.

For all intents and purposes, I think reset, respec, and refund are basically synonymous. People like to split hairs with terms sometimes, but since half the community is still asking for "respect", I think we have to stop trying that hard. ;)

It was listed as a "reset and refund". So, all skills removed, all skill points returned. Jadek's tweet may shed some light for you: https://twitter.com/JadekMenaheim/status/526081565353590784

Soraya, I have a question. So CPM has probably known about this for a while. When you guys heard about it, what was your reaction? And, did you you just go "These are going to be some active forums..."

You could skill into the FOTM instantly, as opposed to someone who would have to grind to get it. I think everyone should get one yearly refund, but you can buy an extra one for AUR each year.