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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.10.28 16:35:00 -
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Bear in mind, in addition to the AUR cost, there is a secondary penalty: Only getting an 80% refund on skill book ISK. While this is not a huge penalty for newer players, as many skills cost close to a million ISK, characters with high SP will lose probably 10-20 million ISK or more in this transaction.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Pushing Charlie
Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries
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Posted - 2014.10.28 16:47:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Bear in mind, in addition to the AUR cost, there is a secondary penalty: Only getting an 80% refund on skill book ISK. While this is not a huge penalty for newer players, as many skills cost close to a million ISK, characters with high SP will lose probably 10-20 million ISK or more in this transaction.
Is it not just a refund to a single skill?
Knight Soiaire
I BELIEVE!
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
4377
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Posted - 2014.10.28 16:50:00 -
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Pushing Charlie wrote:Is it not just a refund to a single skill?
I am going to lean on the use of all plural references to skills and skillbooks in the patch notes. "Reset your skills" generally does not refer to unlearning a single skill.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.10.28 16:56:00 -
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Pay to win is things like 'golden' ammo. We do not have this thankfully in DUST therefore - not pay to win. Pay2convienience I would argue.
"Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones"
"Guns for show, Knives for a pro"
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Gentlemen's.Club
5658
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Posted - 2014.10.28 16:57:00 -
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I think a bigger comment on P2W can be made about triple stacking boosters... That's a lot of extra SP gained only by paying money. other than that i loved the new dev blog.
EVE 21 Day Trial
Selling Templar BPO's
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Grainne Maire
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.10.28 17:01:00 -
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Just to make sure everyone who complains about a CCP money grab...you do know they are a for profit organization don't you?
Kodho's really crappy, do nothing alt
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Pushing Charlie
Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries
342
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Posted - 2014.10.28 17:03:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Pushing Charlie wrote:Is it not just a refund to a single skill? I am going to lean on the use of all plural references to skills and skillbooks in the patch notes. "Reset your skills" generally does not refer to unlearning a single skill.
Lets not start acting like a bunch of twats now. Reset is a completely different thing, it removes your SP. Ye followin' me?
I was under the impression:
Respec - Every skill
Refund - A single tree / Skill
Knight Soiaire
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Kodho
Hidden Suppression
51
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Posted - 2014.10.28 17:08:00 -
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I personally have not spend a dime on this game. I have no problems with others spending to get better faster. With the new SP cap increase, you will be able to grow much faster and keep up with the money spenders. If CCP continues to show a loss on their financials for this game, it will be dropped. No profit, no game. Quit complaining.
Long Live the Scout!
Kodho
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.10.28 17:14:00 -
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Pushing Charlie wrote:I was under the impression:
Respec - Every skill
Refund - A single tree / Skill
For all intents and purposes, I think reset, respec, and refund are basically synonymous. People like to split hairs with terms sometimes, but since half the community is still asking for "respect", I think we have to stop trying that hard. ;)
It was listed as a "reset and refund". So, all skills removed, all skill points returned. Jadek's tweet may shed some light for you: https://twitter.com/JadekMenaheim/status/526081565353590784
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Cyzad4
Blackfish Corp.
426
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Posted - 2014.10.28 17:31:00 -
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Pushing Charlie wrote:Cyzad4 wrote:How is paying for a respec P2W exactly? You could skill into the FOTM instantly, as opposed to someone who would have to grind to get it. I think everyone should get one yearly refund, but you can buy an extra one for AUR each year.
Hey if someone want's to cough up actual money to continuously hop the FOTM bandwagon all the power to them, or people could just gg instead and not worry about it.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.
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Alena Ventrallis
Vengeance Unbound
RISE of LEGION
2054
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Posted - 2014.10.28 17:35:00 -
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You misunderstand what P2W is.
If CCP sold something like Officer weapons that could only be bought with Aurum, then that is P2W. P2W necessitates that the best gear is only available for real money, and that's not the case. This only takes the sp you've gotten and allows you to move it around for a fee, but it's not like they're going to sell you raw sp meaning you can buy your way into the major leagues.
Proof that Rattati/CCP do listen to the playerbase.
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Ahkhomi Cypher
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
278
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Posted - 2014.10.28 17:45:00 -
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With the cap increase i wont even need a respec.
Just keep what i have and skill into more stuff.
Plus the bad stuff i skilled into may be good stuff later.
My 5'd out breach AR for example.
Opus Arcana | TBD Ringleader
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2014.10.28 17:45:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Pushing Charlie wrote:I was under the impression:
Respec - Every skill
Refund - A single tree / Skill For all intents and purposes, I think reset, respec, and refund are basically synonymous. People like to split hairs with terms sometimes, but since half the community is still asking for "respect", I think we have to stop trying that hard. ;) It was listed as a "reset and refund". So, all skills removed, all skill points returned. Jadek's tweet may shed some light for you: https://twitter.com/JadekMenaheim/status/526081565353590784
Aye, reset was originally a "poof, no SP" while respec was "poof, no spent skills."
Soraya, I have a question. So CPM has probably known about this for a while. When you guys heard about it, what was your reaction? And, did you you just go "These are going to be some active forums..."
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
4382
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Posted - 2014.10.28 18:15:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Soraya, I have a question. So CPM has probably known about this for a while. When you guys heard about it, what was your reaction? And, did you you just go "These are going to be some active forums..."
In general, we were very excited about 1.9 as a whole. The idea with respecs was met with cautious optimism. We knew some people would love it, some people would hate it. It going for AUR should be a good compromise in being somewhat limited in how much it will be used, but available for those who really want it.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Tesfa Alem
Death by Disassociation
268
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Posted - 2014.10.28 18:26:00 -
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Pushing Charlie wrote:Cyzad4 wrote:How is paying for a respec P2W exactly? You could skill into the FOTM instantly, as opposed to someone who would have to grind to get it. I think everyone should get one yearly refund, but you can buy an extra one for AUR each year.
750,000 SP a week says i can get any FOTM in under a month. I doubt i will ever ask for a respec, i would rather just keep widening my horizons.
Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
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