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Ace Boone Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 301	Posted - 2014.10.27 23:47:00 - [1] - Quote First the hacking speed bonus, then the PG/CPU buff to KinCats, the huge buffs to nova knives, the built in armor repair and MOST OF ALL THE NERF TO CAL SCOUTS ERHMAGERD yes. Thank you so much for doing so many things to make my Min scout competent at being a ninja. Getting scanned by a a quad-scanning Cal scout and blasted by his whole squad was not fun in PC, you have made my job much easier. Only loyal to the republic.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 5074	Posted - 2014.10.27 23:54:00 - [2] - Quote You are forgetting they are fixing the sprint glitch in 1.9. No more Sprint Glitch? This party is going to be off the hook!
Stevez Wingyip Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 13	Posted - 2014.10.27 23:55:00 - [3] - Quote Ace Boone wrote: First the hacking speed bonus, then the PG/CPU buff to KinCats, the huge buffs to nova knives, the built in armor repair and MOST OF ALL THE NERF TO CAL SCOUTS ERHMAGERD yes. Thank you so much for doing so many things to make my Min scout competent at being a ninja. Getting scanned by a a quad-scanning Cal scout and blasted by his whole squad was not fun in PC, you have made my job much easier. In EvE minmatar are known for their speed ;)

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 9354	Posted - 2014.10.28 00:10:00 - [4] - Quote A combination of data and quality feedback "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 7081	Posted - 2014.10.28 00:31:00 - [5] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: A combination of data and quality feedback Thank you by the way. I've mained a Min Scout since 1.1. First proto suit, and the only suit I've ever used in PC. It's great to see it back in action with a purpose. Back when Cal Scouts reigned supreme it was useless. Before that, it was outshined by the Gal scout in every aspect. So once again. Thank you. Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in! FA recruits get free officer BPO's. Enlist today. Must be a scrub to enter.
Zindorak G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1164	Posted - 2014.10.28 00:35:00 - [6] - Quote ERMAGERD CAL SCOUT NERF YAS YAS THANK YOU CCP YAS YAS YAS THANK YOU hugs Rattati Pokemon master and Tekken Lord Gk0 Scout yay :)
Lloyd Orfay Commando Perkone Caldari State 116	Posted - 2014.10.28 00:38:00 - [7] - Quote So then people have lazier ways of playing as an assassin, and have a better chance of making everyone else who doesn't want to spec into scouts just to fight scouts have less fun times. Wonderful. People that can't achieve greatness without exploitation don't deserve to exist. Enroll in scout erradication today.
xavier zor G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 116	Posted - 2014.10.28 00:40:00 - [8] - Quote Ace Boone wrote: First the hacking speed bonus, then the PG/CPU buff to KinCats, the huge buffs to nova knives, the built in armor repair and MOST OF ALL THE NERF TO CAL SCOUTS ERHMAGERD yes. Thank you so much for doing so many things to make my Min scout competent at being a ninja. Getting scanned by a a quad-scanning Cal scout and blasted by his whole squad was not fun in PC, you have made my job much easier. meh I have 2 choices to send my skill points on 1: Proto minmitar scout 2: 6 new prototype weapons The choice is HARD!! scout ck.0 here!
Aria Gomes Wirykomi Wolf Pack 646	Posted - 2014.10.28 00:42:00 - [9] - Quote Cries
Kaze Eyrou Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 787	Posted - 2014.10.28 00:42:00 - [10] - Quote I'm lost. Can someone provide a link to the Cal Scout nerf? Closed Beta Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou

Jathniel G I A N T 1208	Posted - 2014.10.28 00:49:00 - [11] - Quote Kaze Eyrou wrote: I'm lost. Can someone provide a link to the Cal Scout nerf? I too would like confirmation of this. Is this a confirmation that there is now, NO counter to dampened and/or cloaked Scouts at all? Or can we at least expect a buff to Active Scanners? It makes no sense to recognize that the cloaking device + dampening is providing a risk-free playstyle, but then nerf one of the only real counters to it. First it was just the Gal Scout that couldn't be scanned, but the Min Scout too? You're going to make a LOT of people very unhappy. Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 5080	Posted - 2014.10.28 00:51:00 - [12] - Quote Jathniel wrote: Kaze Eyrou wrote: I'm lost. Can someone provide a link to the Cal Scout nerf? I too would like confirmation of this. Is this a confirmation that there is now, NO counter to dampened and/or cloaked Scouts at all? This was in reference to the Caldari Scout's ability between Alpha and Charlie to scan both Minmatar and Amarr scouts without either having the ability to dampen enough to escape their scans. It was the changes in Charlie that are being perceived as a nerf. No more Sprint Glitch? This party is going to be off the hook!
Jathniel G I A N T 1208	Posted - 2014.10.28 00:56:00 - [13] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Jathniel wrote: Kaze Eyrou wrote: I'm lost. Can someone provide a link to the Cal Scout nerf? I too would like confirmation of this. Is this a confirmation that there is now, NO counter to dampened and/or cloaked Scouts at all? This was in reference to the Caldari Scout's ability between Alpha and Charlie to scan both Minmatar and Amarr scouts without either having the ability to dampen enough to escape their scans. It was the changes in Charlie that are being perceived as a nerf. So, the Cal Scout wasn't nerfed, but the Min and Amarr scouts profile has been reduced? I don't see how this helps anything, overall. This balances scouts against each other, but does nothing but increase the amount of Scouts that are going to plague everything. At this point, the only way to get any semblance of balance vs. the other suits, is to buff logi precision bonuses with active scanners. Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 5080	Posted - 2014.10.28 00:58:00 - [14] - Quote xavier zor wrote: Ace Boone wrote: First the hacking speed bonus, then the PG/CPU buff to KinCats, the huge buffs to nova knives, the built in armor repair and MOST OF ALL THE NERF TO CAL SCOUTS ERHMAGERD yes. Thank you so much for doing so many things to make my Min scout competent at being a ninja. Getting scanned by a a quad-scanning Cal scout and blasted by his whole squad was not fun in PC, you have made my job much easier. meh I have 2 choices to send my skill points on 1: Proto minmitar scout 2: 6 new prototype weapons The choice is HARD!! Ask yourself, how often would you use all those weapons? I have just recently, after having 25 mil SP or so, been skilling into a broader weapon base than I had previously. The reality is, I still tend to use the same weapons that I did before, and I use them for 80-90 percent of my gameplay, circumstances depending. All the additional weaponry did was give me more versatility when coming across different circumstances. At the same time, I use my Minmatar suit 95% of the time, aside from the 5% I use my Commando, which I JUST started doing within the past month. Before that, I was pretty much running Minja 100% of the time. The additional weaponry and whatnot has been sometimes helpful, other times for just ***** and giggles. You will earn skill bonuses for getting to level 5 even if you don't run proto suits, and if you are like how I was and wore that suit all the time, I got the most benefit from skilling into my pro minja. No more Sprint Glitch? This party is going to be off the hook!
Kaze Eyrou Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 788	Posted - 2014.10.28 00:58:00 - [15] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Jathniel wrote: Kaze Eyrou wrote: I'm lost. Can someone provide a link to the Cal Scout nerf? I too would like confirmation of this. Is this a confirmation that there is now, NO counter to dampened and/or cloaked Scouts at all? This was in reference to the Caldari Scout's ability between Alpha and Charlie to scan both Minmatar and Amarr scouts without either having the ability to dampen enough to escape their scans. It was the changes in Charlie that are being perceived as a nerf. Ooohhh! Ok. I thought OP was referencing something I had overlooked in what we have now in terms of Caldari Scout's ability to passive scan in the recent iteration. In the mean time, I think I'm going to stab myself into someone's Nova Knives for that last run-on sentence. Thanks for clearing that up. Closed Beta Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
Kaze Eyrou Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 789	Posted - 2014.10.28 01:01:00 - [16] - Quote Jathniel wrote: At this point, the only way to get any semblance of balance vs. the other suits, is to buff logi precision bonuses with active scanners. *LONG GASP* Closed Beta Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 5081	Posted - 2014.10.28 01:01:00 - [17] - Quote Jathniel wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Jathniel wrote: Kaze Eyrou wrote: I'm lost. Can someone provide a link to the Cal Scout nerf? I too would like confirmation of this. Is this a confirmation that there is now, NO counter to dampened and/or cloaked Scouts at all? This was in reference to the Caldari Scout's ability between Alpha and Charlie to scan both Minmatar and Amarr scouts without either having the ability to dampen enough to escape their scans. It was the changes in Charlie that are being perceived as a nerf. So, the Cal Scout wasn't nerfed, but the Min and Amarr scouts profile has been reduced? I don't see how this helps anything, overall. This balances scouts against each other, but does nothing but increase the amount of Scouts that are going to plague everything. At this point, the only way to get any semblance of balance vs. the other suits, is to buff logi precision bonuses with active scanners. The Cal Scout bonus was changed from Precision and Range to Range and Dampening. This was perceived by many to be a nerf, but that is a matter of perspective and not of fact. Since a scanned scout is a dead scout, that change was the difference between Minjas and Amarr scouts being viable versus suicidal. There are other ways of creating balance then screwing with EWAR balance of scouts. EWAR is not everything, there are many other components of the game, and adjustments can be made. And really, until EWAR can become something other than binary, those adjustments are the best solution. Edit: If anything, the Gal Logi bonus is throwing off the EWAR balance for medium frames as well, as scouts had to have lower profiles just to beat it, which means less dampened scouts are more dampened than if the Gal Logi bonus didn't exist. That makes it harder for medium frames to pick up undampened and lightly dampened scouts, though it is still possible for them to do so. No more Sprint Glitch? This party is going to be off the hook!
Jathniel G I A N T 1208	Posted - 2014.10.28 05:20:00 - [18] - Quote Kaze Eyrou wrote: Edit: No wait, that wouldn't work. Had an idea. With some bouncing around of theory-think and brainstorm-testing, it wouldn't work and doesn't make sense anyways. Carry on. No, please don't stop there. I'd love to hear what you have in mind. We've made more Scouts viable, and viable means invisible... and invisible means invincible. So if defeating Scout dampening is not an option, where is the counter? No logi active scanner bonus? No increased glow during sprinting? This is going to create one of the ugliest metas I've seen in this game in a while, if we don't come up with something for players other than "watch your back". Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 5100	Posted - 2014.10.28 06:08:00 - [19] - Quote Jathniel wrote: Kaze Eyrou wrote: Edit: No wait, that wouldn't work. Had an idea. With some bouncing around of theory-think and brainstorm-testing, it wouldn't work and doesn't make sense anyways. Carry on. No, please don't stop there. I'd love to hear what you have in mind. We've made more Scouts viable, and viable means invisible... and invisible means invincible. So if defeating Scout dampening is not an option, where is the counter? No logi active scanner bonus? No increased glow during sprinting? This is going to create one of the ugliest metas I've seen in this game in a while, if we don't come up with something for players other than "watch your back". Cloaked scouts are less visible, not invisible. They can still be seen, especially when they move. In order to be tacnet invisible, they must make HP sacrifices, especially those that are not Gallente. MDs and PLCs easily beat scouts because they don't even require the accuracy with splash damage, and can be used on any frame. There have been numerous suggestions that don't simply require people to "watch their back," although that should really be an option. Its just as common sense as people saying, "Don't run headlong into heavies." At this stage of the game, Assaults can tank enough to survive shotgun blasts, and will have time to retaliate in kind. The only thing they don't have enough HP to beat are knives, which merely require constant movement (which you should be doing anyways because of snipers). While there are issues, scouts aren't nearly as OP as you are making them out to be, and exaggerating problems don't help further discussion. No more Sprint Glitch? This party is going to be off the hook!
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1393	Posted - 2014.10.28 07:02:00 - [20] - Quote Ace Boone wrote: First the hacking speed bonus, then the PG/CPU buff to KinCats, the huge buffs to nova knives, the built in armor repair and MOST OF ALL THE NERF TO CAL SCOUTS ERHMAGERD yes. Thank you so much for doing so many things to make my Min scout competent at being a ninja. Getting scanned by a a quad-scanning Cal scout and blasted by his whole squad was not fun in PC, you have made my job much easier. minmatar scout isnt OP like those scouts with Ewar bonuses.. its just a Shank n sprint n hack kinda suit. [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]



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