DUST Search - Concerning Pilot Suits !

Joseph Ridgeson wrote:

Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:

Joseph Ridgeson wrote:

Banjo Robertson wrote:

Pilot suit would go well with, dropsuit modules that effect the vehicle you are piloting!

CCP takes the current dropsuit core skills that unlock dropsuit modules, and adds in new modules in some of these categories that will be the pilot dropsuit modules which have a benefit to your vehicle.

This way, players get a benefit from their dropsuit pilot skill being higher level, and using a proto pilot suit allows them to fit more modules which have a benefit to their vehicle.

That is a nightmare waiting to happen for trying to figure out how the hell it works. CCP has had trouble saying "you can't drive this vehicle unless you have the skill" which is why it is only limited by fitting it and call it in. How do you think it will handle "Okay, he is in the tank with these skills, plus this suit, plus these modules"?

Plus, you fall into the realm of problems I listed above.

perhaps the pilot suit is going to be CCPs way of 'locking' the drivers seat of vehicles? you can only enter the pilot seat while wearing a pilot suit, and obvs you'd have to be wearing the correct pilot suit for the ship. ensure a minmatar pilot suit doesn't give a bonus to a gallente HAV. but you can still drive the vehicle. just allow LAVs to be driven by players wearign any suit.

If you are giving a bonus, you are still falling into the 3 problems that I think are likely to happen.

In this thread, I am really confused what the OP and others are asking for. The original post was along the lines of helping pilots out but it later comes out that he doesn't want the pilots jumping out with Forge Guns. If the concern is about people jumping out and running away or "ermergawd, he tots killed me with frog gun!", there are easier ways of suggesting change than bringing up an entirely new skill set that would be a complete nightmare to balance and to figure out the exact mechanics.


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Apocalyptic Destroyer KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 193	Posted - 2014.10.27 04:11:00 - [1] - Quote Will they honestly ever be coming ? Given the fact of : A) They are probably one of the easiest suits to make, a scout suit with only a sidearm and bonuses affecting things such as RoF, Cool-down Time, Maneuverability. and B) You honestly almost never survive when your ADS goes down, due to getting crushed in Mid-air. If they do come, would you make it to where you can only operate a vehicle with a Pilot suit ? Exception being an LAV. I think most of you would agree a Heavy or Tanked out Forger popping out of a tank or ADS is a no-no ? \\CPM's Are Forum Warriors// Pain is weakness leaving the body. You Underestimate Me, ADS, Tanker, Heavy, Scout
Apocalyptic Destroyer KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 194	Posted - 2014.10.27 04:28:00 - [2] - Quote Note ! You forum warriors I am not stating that every suit is easy to make ! Compare it to the other suits and it is the easiest ! \\CPM's Are Forum Warriors// Pain is weakness leaving the body. You Underestimate Me, ADS, Tanker, Heavy, Scout
Apocalyptic Destroyer KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 194	Posted - 2014.10.27 04:44:00 - [3] - Quote I'm only proposing this due to the amount of damn vehicles I kill, but the people hop out as Forgers. The bonuses can be anything really I can care less. Such as: For ADS: A) Maneuverability B) RoF Increase B) Cool-down Reduction C) Afterburner Bonuses For Tanks: A) Hardener Bonuses B) Shield Booster Bonuses C) Cool-down Bonuses D) Dispersion Decrease E) Cool-down Reduction \\CPM's Are Forum Warriors// Pain is weakness leaving the body. You Underestimate Me, ADS, Tanker, Heavy, Scout
Apocalyptic Destroyer KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 194	Posted - 2014.10.27 04:47:00 - [4] - Quote Also If and when they put in the Racial vehicles, this will add Racial Pilot suits. The only ones we could have now are Gallente & Caldari. I think it would be interesting to see Racial vehicles with Racial Pilot suits together & There would be no getting around this or exploits. \\CPM's Are Forum Warriors// Pain is weakness leaving the body. You Underestimate Me, ADS, Tanker, Heavy, Scout
Apocalyptic Destroyer KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 206	Posted - 2014.10.29 05:37:00 - [5] - Quote I wouldn't even make it to a suit where you would get it to Proto due to it not being worth anything, maybe a cheap ISK proto. But I'd like to see it at ADV only or Basic. \\CPM's Are Forum Warriors// Pain is weakness leaving the body. You Underestimate Me, ADS, Tanker, Heavy, Scout
Apocalyptic Destroyer KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 206	Posted - 2014.10.30 04:03:00 - [6] - Quote Bahirae Serugiusu wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Banjo Robertson wrote: Pilot suit would go well with, dropsuit modules that effect the vehicle you are piloting! CCP takes the current dropsuit core skills that unlock dropsuit modules, and adds in new modules in some of these categories that will be the pilot dropsuit modules which have a benefit to your vehicle. This way, players get a benefit from their dropsuit pilot skill being higher level, and using a proto pilot suit allows them to fit more modules which have a benefit to their vehicle. That is a nightmare waiting to happen for trying to figure out how the hell it works. CCP has had trouble saying "you can't drive this vehicle unless you have the skill" which is why it is only limited by fitting it and call it in. How do you think it will handle "Okay, he is in the tank with these skills, plus this suit, plus these modules"? Plus, you fall into the realm of problems I listed above. perhaps the pilot suit is going to be CCPs way of 'locking' the drivers seat of vehicles? you can only enter the pilot seat while wearing a pilot suit, and obvs you'd have to be wearing the correct pilot suit for the ship. ensure a minmatar pilot suit doesn't give a bonus to a gallente HAV. but you can still drive the vehicle. just allow LAVs to be driven by players wearign any suit. So all my Militia tanks and dropships would be useless? I think this will also balance the Militia Tanks as well ! usually 5/10 times you will get killed by someone using a Militia tank with a Proto Large Turret, and even if you kill the damn tank, you know that F@cker is going to hop out with a proto forge and take you out. \\CPM's Are Forum Warriors// Pain is weakness leaving the body. You Underestimate Me, ADS, Tanker, Heavy, Scout
Apocalyptic Destroyer KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 206	Posted - 2014.10.30 04:35:00 - [7] - Quote I literally get no input at all from any Dev, CPM, or GCM. I hope i get some kind of input for this. \\CPM's Are Forum Warriors// Pain is weakness leaving the body. You Underestimate Me, ADS, Tanker, Heavy, Scout
Apocalyptic Destroyer KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 206	Posted - 2014.10.31 03:30:00 - [8] - Quote Bump \\CPM's Are Forum Warriors// Pain is weakness leaving the body. You Underestimate Me, ADS, Tanker, Heavy, Scout
Apocalyptic Destroyer KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 206	Posted - 2014.10.31 04:38:00 - [9] - Quote I just want to end Murder forging in a tank or ADS \\CPM's Are Forum Warriors// Pain is weakness leaving the body. You Underestimate Me, ADS, Tanker, Heavy, Scout
Apocalyptic Destroyer KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 207	Posted - 2014.11.02 04:23:00 - [10] - Quote Bump \\CPM's Are Forum Warriors// Pain is weakness leaving the body. You Underestimate Me, ADS, Tanker, Heavy, Scout

Apocalyptic Destroyer KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 207	Posted - 2014.11.02 04:25:00 - [11] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Banjo Robertson wrote: Pilot suit would go well with, dropsuit modules that effect the vehicle you are piloting! CCP takes the current dropsuit core skills that unlock dropsuit modules, and adds in new modules in some of these categories that will be the pilot dropsuit modules which have a benefit to your vehicle. This way, players get a benefit from their dropsuit pilot skill being higher level, and using a proto pilot suit allows them to fit more modules which have a benefit to their vehicle. That is a nightmare waiting to happen for trying to figure out how the hell it works. CCP has had trouble saying "you can't drive this vehicle unless you have the skill" which is why it is only limited by fitting it and call it in. How do you think it will handle "Okay, he is in the tank with these skills, plus this suit, plus these modules"? Plus, you fall into the realm of problems I listed above. perhaps the pilot suit is going to be CCPs way of 'locking' the drivers seat of vehicles? you can only enter the pilot seat while wearing a pilot suit, and obvs you'd have to be wearing the correct pilot suit for the ship. ensure a minmatar pilot suit doesn't give a bonus to a gallente HAV. but you can still drive the vehicle. just allow LAVs to be driven by players wearign any suit. If you are giving a bonus, you are still falling into the 3 problems that I think are likely to happen. In this thread, I am really confused what the OP and others are asking for. The original post was along the lines of helping pilots out but it later comes out that he doesn't want the pilots jumping out with Forge Guns. If the concern is about people jumping out and running away or "ermergawd, he tots killed me with frog gun!", there are easier ways of suggesting change than bringing up an entirely new skill set that would be a complete nightmare to balance and to figure out the exact mechanics. It's helping out both in a Sense, I'm coming up with an aspect that gives mainly the ADS Pilots an actual belonging in the Game and probably tankers to. Even though most tankers are Heavies. \\CPM's Are Forum Warriors// Pain is weakness leaving the body. You Underestimate Me, ADS, Tanker, Heavy, Scout
Apocalyptic Destroyer KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 209	Posted - 2014.11.02 05:20:00 - [12] - Quote A Pilot suit would not keep you from dying. the Pilot Suit is only there as I am seeing it is to use your Vehicles, hence not being able to operate a Vehicle without the Desired Pilot suit and also to stop Heavies or AV pooping out of a Vehicle. The Only vehicle not needing a Pilot Suit would have to be the LAV. This, I just thought of would stop another problem, which is vehicles being stolen such as an ADS, DS or Tank. Amarrian In Disguise.. Pain is weakness leaving the body. You Underestimate Me, ADS, Tanker, Heavy, Scout, Logi
Apocalyptic Destroyer KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 210	Posted - 2014.11.02 23:28:00 - [13] - Quote Bump Amarrian In Disguise.. Pain is weakness leaving the body. You Underestimate Me, ADS, Tanker, Heavy, Scout, Logi
Apocalyptic Destroyer KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 214	Posted - 2014.11.04 15:21:00 - [14] - Quote Exactly my point.... Now if there was only a Dev around.. Amarrian In Disguise.. Pain is weakness leaving the body. You Underestimate Me, ADS, Tanker, Heavy, Scout, Logi
Apocalyptic Destroyer KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 214	Posted - 2014.11.06 06:43:00 - [15] - Quote Bump Amarrian In Disguise.. Pain is weakness leaving the body. You Underestimate Me, ADS, Tanker, Heavy, Scout, Logi