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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2014.10.27 01:59:00 -
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I sight the following as my evidence for Dust having 3rd person as an option.
I believe the evidence speaks for itself.
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Lost Apollo
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.10.27 02:32:00 -
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I think I've said it a hundred times, dust 514 needs a third person action
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.10.27 02:40:00 -
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As cool as this would be, it would be very unfair to Nova Knife and Shotgun users.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
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Posted - 2014.10.27 02:42:00 -
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Atiim wrote:As cool as this would be, it would be very unfair to Nova Knife and Shotgun users. How? It would allow them a greater field of vision to better predict the direction of enemies. I can't see anything but good coming from this.
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1982
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Posted - 2014.10.27 04:54:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Atiim wrote:As cool as this would be, it would be very unfair to Nova Knife and Shotgun users. How? It would allow them a greater field of vision to better predict the direction of enemies.
Isn't that part of the problem inherent in this idea though. The limited 1st person perspective of this game is part of what generates a connection to your character. I am my merc and all that. By making it a 3rd person game not only to you create a situation where players have unnaturally large field of vision but you also disassociate the player from their character. This would be awful in the sense that I would loose the connection that makes every action I take so visceral and meaningful.
I for one am truly opposed to 3rd person views becoming a part of this game. It looks like there are plenty of other games which include 3rd person elements. Why aren't you playing those if you like the experience so much?
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Vicious Minotaur
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Posted - 2014.10.27 05:17:00 -
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I have always preferred First-Person action over that of Third-Person.
The second DUST gets Third-Person (with regards to infantry) is the second I am done with DUST. Third-Person would make my preferred POV irrevocably irrelevant. The two cannot coexist in a competitive/tactical PVP game. Those who use First-Person would always be at a disadvantage.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
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Posted - 2014.10.27 09:33:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Atiim wrote:As cool as this would be, it would be very unfair to Nova Knife and Shotgun users. How? It would allow them a greater field of vision to better predict the direction of enemies. Isn't that part of the problem inherent in this idea though. The limited 1st person perspective of this game is part of what generates a connection to your character. I am my merc and all that. By making it a 3rd person game not only to you create a situation where players have unnaturally large field of vision but you also disassociate the player from their character. This would be awful in the sense that I would loose the connection that makes every action I take so visceral and meaningful. I for one am truly opposed to 3rd person views becoming a part of this game. It looks like there are plenty of other games which include 3rd person elements. Why aren't you playing those if you like the experience so much? Cause I like Dust. Also I'm proposing an option not a forced setting. If you wanted to keep first person you could and it would be fine
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2014.10.27 09:36:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:I have always preferred First-Person action over that of Third-Person.
The second DUST gets Third-Person (with regards to infantry) is the second I am done with DUST. Third-Person would make my preferred POV irrevocably irrelevant. The two cannot coexist in a competitive/tactical PVP game. Those who use First-Person would always be at a disadvantage. This is not true. I cite all four of the Star Wars: Battlefront Games where both coexisted and people did not complain about either being OP.
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Vicious Minotaur
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Posted - 2014.10.27 10:00:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:I have always preferred First-Person action over that of Third-Person.
The second DUST gets Third-Person (with regards to infantry) is the second I am done with DUST. Third-Person would make my preferred POV irrevocably irrelevant. The two cannot coexist in a competitive/tactical PVP game. Those who use First-Person would always be at a disadvantage. This is not true. I cite all four of the Star Wars: Battlefront Games where both coexisted and people did not complain about either being OP.
I hardly consider SW:Battlefront a competitive/tactical PVP game. Disclamer: When I think of a competitive/tactical PVP game, I immediately think: CS1.6.
When I played the game (just the first one), it felt like a rather laid back, casual arcady shooter. And never mind that those games had both perspectives from the get-go. (and even then, using First-Person would still put you at a disadvantage)
Different game, different playerbase, different atmosphere, different stakes.
You are comparing apples to head lice.
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Black Squggulle
Eternal Beings Dark Taboo
23
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Posted - 2014.10.27 10:38:00 -
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How about Remote explosives while hacking objectives..and if dust will be 3rd person...it would be likely unfair for shotgun and knives user as some guys said
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
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Posted - 2014.10.27 18:54:00 -
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Black Squggulle wrote:How about Remote explosives while hacking objectives..and if dust will be 3rd person...it would be likely unfair for shotgun and knives user as some guys said Most people don't notice remote explosives even when they're looking straight at it so I doubt there would be much of a difference. Shotgun and Knife users would also get a huge benefit from being able to see more.
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2014.10.27 18:56:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:I have always preferred First-Person action over that of Third-Person.
The second DUST gets Third-Person (with regards to infantry) is the second I am done with DUST. Third-Person would make my preferred POV irrevocably irrelevant. The two cannot coexist in a competitive/tactical PVP game. Those who use First-Person would always be at a disadvantage. This is not true. I cite all four of the Star Wars: Battlefront Games where both coexisted and people did not complain about either being OP. I hardly consider SW:Battlefront a competitive/tactical PVP game. Disclamer: When I think of a competitive/tactical PVP game, I immediately think: CS1.6. When I played the game (just the first one), it felt like a rather laid back, casual arcady shooter. And never mind that those games had both perspectives from the get-go. (and even then, using First-Person would still put you at a disadvantage) Different game, different playerbase, different atmosphere, different stakes. You are comparing apples to head lice.
If the gameplay of Battlefront wasn't tactical then Dust definitely isn't.
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Pokey Dravon
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Posted - 2014.10.27 19:23:00 -
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Corner camping is fun for everyone!
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
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Posted - 2014.10.27 19:57:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Corner camping is fun for everyone!
/sarcasm Because shotgun scouts and HMG heavies don't do this already.
Corner camping isn't anything that an M1 grenade won't fix. Also in all reasonable scenarios camping would actually be reduced not increased.
All issues that have been brought up so far have either been nit picky, irrelevant or simply untrue.
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Lloyd Orfay
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Posted - 2014.10.27 20:03:00 -
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Atiim wrote:As cool as this would be, it would be very unfair to Nova Knife and Shotgun users.
I don't think the field of view would be that big, and even if it was both those type of players are ruining this game. Stealth doesn't belong as a general setting in warfare. Only in occasion it does.
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Ripcord19981
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.28 01:27:00 -
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not really for this idea. I play another game on PC, face of mankind. Both 3rd person and first person are available but 1st person is obsolete and uselees because 3rd person lets u see things around the corner, aim better, more awareness, etc. This wil kill dust if introduced especially cuz CCP will now have another headache they have to handle (balancing the 2 views).
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
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Posted - 2014.10.28 01:33:00 -
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Ripcord19981 wrote:not really for this idea. I play another game on PC, face of mankind. Both 3rd person and first person are available but 1st person is obsolete and uselees because 3rd person lets u see things around the corner, aim better, more awareness, etc. This wil kill dust if introduced especially cuz CCP will now have another headache they have to handle (balancing the 2 views). What if a high amount of "momentum sway" was added in third person. Kind of like in Gears of War where your camera zooms in and rocks back and forth while travelling. You have this sway only in third person, but not in first person. Sounds more than fair.
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.28 01:55:00 -
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I'm going to have to disagree with you Aztec. No TPS.
I've never played a game that has both 1st and 3rd person where the third person players don't have an inherent advantage. It throws a wrench into balance.
GÇó3rd person allows the player to look over/around cover without exposing themselves. GÇó3rd person allows the player to see behind them and in front of them at the same time. A very strong awareness advantage. GÇó3rd person allows better "aiming down sights". Removing the actual ironsights from the screen allows for better target acquisition and tracking.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
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Posted - 2014.10.28 02:01:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote: GÇó3rd person allows better "aiming down sights". Removing the actual ironsights from the screen allows for better target acquisition and tracking.
Ironic given that people use to complain back when Dust had no iron sights.
Regardless, you fail to remember that people in first person tend to have an inherent ability to track targets better when in ADS because both sides of the screen are widely open, while 3rd person inherently has less zoom and obscures part of your view because of the body of your character model.
3rd and 1st person could be balanced, but people are simply looking at small problems instead of seeing solutions.
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Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2014.10.28 02:07:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: GÇó3rd person allows better "aiming down sights". Removing the actual ironsights from the screen allows for better target acquisition and tracking.
Ironic given that people use to complain back when Dust had no iron sights. Regardless, you fail to remember that people in first person tend to have an inherent ability to track targets better when in ADS because both sides of the screen are widely open, while 3rd person inherently has less zoom and obscures part of your view because of the body of your character model. 3rd and 1st person could be balanced, but people are simply looking at small problems instead of seeing solutions. I've played plenty of games that allow both. I'm telling you, there is no sensible way to balance them, because these advantage are incomparable. In every single game, the competitive gameplay is dominated by TPSers, to the point that people would make FPS locked lobnies so they dont have to deal with TPS shenanigans. You cannot balance around it in any way that makes any sense.
I don't meant to sound like a ****, but if you want to play a TPS, go somewhere else.
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2014.10.28 02:10:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: GÇó3rd person allows better "aiming down sights". Removing the actual ironsights from the screen allows for better target acquisition and tracking.
Ironic given that people use to complain back when Dust had no iron sights. Regardless, you fail to remember that people in first person tend to have an inherent ability to track targets better when in ADS because both sides of the screen are widely open, while 3rd person inherently has less zoom and obscures part of your view because of the body of your character model. 3rd and 1st person could be balanced, but people are simply looking at small problems instead of seeing solutions. I've played plenty of games that allow both. I'm telling you, there is no sensible way to balance them, because these advantage are incomparable. In every single game, the competitive gameplay is dominated by TPSers, to the point that people would make FPS locked lobnies so they dont have to deal with TPS shenanigans. You cannot balance around it in any way that makes any sense. I don't meant to sound like a ****, but if you want to play a TPS, go somewhere else. Solutions, the name of the game is solutions. You can't overcome an obstacle if you never try.
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.28 02:13:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: GÇó3rd person allows better "aiming down sights". Removing the actual ironsights from the screen allows for better target acquisition and tracking.
Ironic given that people use to complain back when Dust had no iron sights. Regardless, you fail to remember that people in first person tend to have an inherent ability to track targets better when in ADS because both sides of the screen are widely open, while 3rd person inherently has less zoom and obscures part of your view because of the body of your character model. 3rd and 1st person could be balanced, but people are simply looking at small problems instead of seeing solutions. I've played plenty of games that allow both. I'm telling you, there is no sensible way to balance them, because these advantage are incomparable. In every single game, the competitive gameplay is dominated by TPSers, to the point that people would make FPS locked lobnies so they dont have to deal with TPS shenanigans. You cannot balance around it in any way that makes any sense. I don't meant to sound like a ****, but if you want to play a TPS, go somewhere else. Solutions, the name of the game is solutions. You can't overcome an obstacle if you never try.
Why create an obstacle in the first place, where there isn't one? The game doesn't need their like you say it does. You just want it.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
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Posted - 2014.10.28 02:18:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Why create an obstacle in the first place, where there isn't one? The game doesn't need their like you say it does. You just want it. Of course I want it. I used the word need as an exaggeration in a way of saying "this is so awesome how can we not have it: you need to include it OMG ".
So yeah, it's a feature that I would like to see I'm this game and that I truly believe could be included in this game in a balanced fashion.
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Vicious Minotaur
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Posted - 2014.10.28 04:06:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:
If the gameplay of Battlefront wasn't tactical then Dust definitely isn't.
I don't recall explicitly stating that Battlefront wasn't at all tactical. But technicalities and irrelevant labels aside:
No matter how you slice it, DUST is currently an FPS, which as you know, stands for First-Person Shooter. The POV is directly tied to the genre that this game is in.
Allow for Third-Person, and the game is changed fundamentally. It ceases to be an FPS.
Changing DUST fundamentally this late into the game with the amount of resources available is nothing short of foolhardy. If you want third person in an EVE infantry shooter, go over to LEGION GD and try to get those mute and secretive devs to tackle the fundamental balance problems associated with FP/TP. They have the manpower and maybe the resources to do it, and the game is not even in Alpha; changes are much easier for a game the earlier it is in development.
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Samuel Zelik
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Posted - 2014.10.28 04:12:00 -
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I think an integrated 3rd person mode might be a nice touch/feature, but Dust should remain primarily an FPS.
- You can route your visor to a small, deployable Drone that follows you around behind your shoulder(s).
- You can deploy a (rechargeable?) Nano-Drone (indestructible) that will let you view in 3rd person for a short period of time.
One feature I really like from Ghost Recon: Phantoms is moving in 3rd person, but ADS in first person. This might be cool along with the Drone-camera integration.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
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Posted - 2014.10.28 10:32:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:
If the gameplay of Battlefront wasn't tactical then Dust definitely isn't.
I don't recall explicitly stating that Battlefront wasn't at all tactical. But technicalities and irrelevant labels aside: No matter how you slice it, DUST is currently an FPS, which as you know, stands for First-Person Shooter. The POV is directly tied to the genre that this game is in. Allow for Third-Person, and the game is changed fundamentally. It ceases to be an FPS. Changing DUST fundamentally this late into the game with the amount of resources available is nothing short of foolhardy. If you want third person in an EVE infantry shooter, go over to LEGION GD and try to get those mute and secretive devs to tackle the fundamental balance problems associated with FP/TP. They have the manpower and maybe the resources to do it, and the game is not even in Alpha; changes are much easier for a game the earlier it is in development. Already did ;)
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2014.10.28 10:33:00 -
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Samuel Zelik wrote:I think an integrated 3rd person mode might be a nice touch/feature, but Dust should remain primarily an FPS.
- You can route your visor to a small, deployable Drone that follows you around behind your shoulder(s).
- You can deploy a (rechargeable?) Nano-Drone (indestructible) that will let you view in 3rd person for a short period of time.
One feature I really like from Ghost Recon: Phantoms is moving in 3rd person, but ADS in first person. This might be cool along with the Drone-camera integration. I dig it.
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Mobius Wyvern
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.10.28 12:56:00 -
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/me sees people who didn't play Planetside (the first one)
>Run down narrow corridor till you find a corner >Stand behind corner >Switch to 3rd Person >Look down hallway while completely invisible to anyone coming toward you >Pull out Shotgun >Win everything ever
This will never not be a bad idea, alright? There is no possible reason why a third person view should be implemented. Hell, I'd support removing 3rd person from vehicles if they'd put in some workable first-person views for Dropships.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.10.28 16:55:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:/me sees people who didn't play Planetside (the first one)
>Run down narrow corridor till you find a corner >Stand behind corner >Switch to 3rd Person >Look down hallway while completely invisible to anyone coming toward you >Pull out Shotgun >Win everything ever
This will never not be a bad idea, alright? There is no possible reason why a third person view should be implemented. Hell, I'd support removing 3rd person from vehicles if they'd put in some workable first-person views for Dropships.
And this is why I don't play TPS games.
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2014.10.28 17:00:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:/me sees people who didn't play Planetside (the first one)
>Run down narrow corridor till you find a corner >Stand behind corner >Switch to 3rd Person >Look down hallway while completely invisible to anyone coming toward you >Pull out Shotgun >Win everything ever
This will never not be a bad idea, alright? There is no possible reason why a third person view should be implemented. Hell, I'd support removing 3rd person from vehicles if they'd put in some workable first-person views for Dropships. And this is why I don't play TPS games. Just make it so that you can only look at what your player is directly looking at and set the camera to show only the upper torso of the player.
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Kaze Eyrou
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.28 19:34:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:/me sees people who didn't play Planetside (the first one)
>Run down narrow corridor till you find a corner >Stand behind corner >Switch to 3rd Person >Look down hallway while completely invisible to anyone coming toward you >Pull out Shotgun >Win everything ever
This will never not be a bad idea, alright? There is no possible reason why a third person view should be implemented. Hell, I'd support removing 3rd person from vehicles if they'd put in some workable first-person views for Dropships. And this is why I don't play TPS games. Just make it so that you can only look at what your player is directly looking at and set the camera to show only the upper torso of the player. Or we could make it to where when you are an infantry, you only have 1st person.
To go back momentarily to your first post you mention some games:
- Gears of War - Star Wars: Battlefront - Uncharted - Max Payne 3 - Ghost Recon: Future Soldier
All of these games are third-person shooters and have no ability to transfer to first person. You are comparing TPS to a FPS, and is a bad analogy as well as a bad comparison.
The ONLY exception is Modern Warfare 2 which had a separate lobby for this and wasn't populated at all (the most I ever saw was 100 players). This idea would be ultimately scrapped in future games and Call of Duty continues to be a FPS. Successor games would be purely FPS with no TPS gameplay.
Dust has a TPV with vehicles and that's really all it needs. (There are some earlier in the thread that argue against that, but that's another argument for a different thread.)
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PLAYSTTION
GamersForChrist
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Posted - 2014.10.29 01:46:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I sight the following as my evidence for Dust having 3rd person as an option. I believe the evidence speaks for itself.
If anyone believes that 3rd person is inherently unfair, than the following could be put in place as a token of balance: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: What if a high amount of "momentum sway" was added in third person. Kind of like in Gears of War where your camera zooms in and rocks back and forth while travelling. You have this sway only in third person, but not in first person. Sounds more than fair.
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Ripcord19981
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
668
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Posted - 2014.10.29 02:41:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:/me sees people who didn't play Planetside (the first one)
>Run down narrow corridor till you find a corner >Stand behind corner >Switch to 3rd Person >Look down hallway while completely invisible to anyone coming toward you >Pull out Shotgun >Win everything ever
This will never not be a bad idea, alright? There is no possible reason why a third person view should be implemented. Hell, I'd support removing 3rd person from vehicles if they'd put in some workable first-person views for Dropships. kinda wat i thought about it. It would be cool, but easily exploitable and just additional headaches.
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Auris Lionesse
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.29 03:07:00 -
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would be cool if it was a module on the suit. to offer different fields of view and perspectives. then we could add in my blind echolocation vision mode for sneaking around.
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sir RAVEN WING
Mors Effera
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Posted - 2014.10.31 17:26:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I sight the following as my evidence for Dust having 3rd person as an option. I believe the evidence speaks for itself.
If anyone believes that 3rd person is inherently unfair, than the following could be put in place as a token of balance: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: What if a high amount of "momentum sway" was added in third person. Kind of like in Gears of War where your camera zooms in and rocks back and forth while travelling. You have this sway only in third person, but not in first person. Sounds more than fair.
I would like to just say how much I would like this, but it would be unfair to those in first person. Let's just drop this Aztec, at least until there is 'private match' in the game.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
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Posted - 2014.10.31 17:34:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I sight the following as my evidence for Dust having 3rd person as an option. I believe the evidence speaks for itself.
If anyone believes that 3rd person is inherently unfair, than the following could be put in place as a token of balance: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: What if a high amount of "momentum sway" was added in third person. Kind of like in Gears of War where your camera zooms in and rocks back and forth while travelling. You have this sway only in third person, but not in first person. Sounds more than fair.
I would like to just say how much I would like this, but it would be unfair to those in first person. Let's just drop this Aztec, at least until there is 'private match' in the game. The World isn't ready for 3rd person. Just like they weren't ready for white jeans
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2014.10.31 17:38:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I sight the following as my evidence for Dust having 3rd person as an option. I believe the evidence speaks for itself.
If anyone believes that 3rd person is inherently unfair, than the following could be put in place as a token of balance: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: What if a high amount of "momentum sway" was added in third person. Kind of like in Gears of War where your camera zooms in and rocks back and forth while travelling. You have this sway only in third person, but not in first person. Sounds more than fair.
I would like to just say how much I would like this, but it would be unfair to those in first person. Let's just drop this Aztec, at least until there is 'private match' in the game. The World isn't ready for 3rd person. Just like they weren't ready for white jeans Dust may never be ready for those
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Maken Tosch
Dust University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.10.31 17:43:00 -
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I will only support this under the condition that the third person view is strictly an option AND must be through the eyes of a personal drone that can be destroyed by the opposing player.
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Hector Carson
BLACK MAGES INC.
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Posted - 2014.10.31 17:48:00 -
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Make 1st person and 3rd person optional
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sir RAVEN WING
Mors Effera
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Posted - 2014.10.31 18:02:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:I will only support this under the condition that the third person view is strictly an option AND must be through the eyes of a personal drone that can be destroyed by the opposing player. This may save the idea!
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el OPERATOR
Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.31 18:16:00 -
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Signed, I like it. Third-person view option. +1
MGO2 was third person with a first-person ADS option and that game was fantastic. Will it allow better corner camping and stealth tactical gameplay? Yep. Does having a wider peripheral vision allow for better combating of corner camping and stealth tactical gameplay? Yep.
Besides, wtf is the point in having a fancy suit if I only get to see it in the mq?
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Lazer Fo Cused
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.31 18:27:00 -
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1. Nope
2. MGO2 i played alot and that was 3rd person but it helped that the game was made around the 3rd person and also every game was 3rd person to begin with
3. DUST is an FPS, 3rd person generally offers nothing apart from vehicles 3a. If you mention about vehicles having 3rd person then the battlefield game also has 3rd person for vehicles as does planetside |
Maken Tosch
Dust University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.10.31 18:42:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I will only support this under the condition that the third person view is strictly an option AND must be through the eyes of a personal drone that can be destroyed by the opposing player. This may save the idea!
Let it be known that this is my ONLY condition and it is non-negotiable. This also fits in with the Eve Online lore where capsuleers have camera drones to see their ships. The difference here is that camera drones in Dust are destructible.
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TechMechMeds
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.10.31 20:40:00 -
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Iv asked for this as well and its been done right in other games where its more over the shoulder so you don't gain any fov advantage. You can swap between first and third person with no fov advantage at all, you just see your avatar.
Trust me it has and can be done so their is no fov advantage.
From a dev point of view, I know its not hard at all to implement as it just requires POV tweaks.
Try not to think literally of third person but more over the shoulder, it has and can be done.
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Maken Tosch
Dust University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.10.31 21:25:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Iv asked for this as well and its been done right in other games where its more over the shoulder so you don't gain any fov advantage. You can swap between first and third person with no fov advantage at all, you just see your avatar.
Trust me it has and can be done so their is no fov advantage.
From a dev point of view, I know its not hard at all to implement as it just requires POV tweaks.
Try not to think literally of third person but more over the shoulder, it has and can be done.
Only so long as it's from the point of view of a drone I can shoot at.
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