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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2014.10.21 19:13:00 -
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I remember it was Logibro that posted that BPO's were going away because they "did not work how we want them to." A lot of people were of the opinion it was because it was bad for the economy to have something that never went away.
I am curious why BPO's are coming back in and "for a limited time only." What changed exactly?
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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Cody Sietz
Evzones Public.Disorder.
4080
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Posted - 2014.10.21 19:16:00 -
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Because PC ruined the economy and CCP selling a few extra BPOs will help "keep the lights on" so to speak.
No one is forcing anyone to buy a BPO, people just want them.
Good for CCP=good for players.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
880
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Posted - 2014.10.21 19:18:00 -
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Because CCP Z is going ahead with Legion Progression 1.0.
This way they get money to keep going.
:)
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Joel II X
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3950
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Posted - 2014.10.21 19:22:00 -
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Because player market isn't coming, and people like shiny. |
Nirwanda Vaughns
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Posted - 2014.10.21 19:25:00 -
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Cash grab. they need to pay some christmas bonus' to themselves
Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
proud C-II bpo owner
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club
5544
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Posted - 2014.10.21 19:26:00 -
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Because the market is no longer in the future so there is no reason to try to stabilize the economy anymore. This is my opinion.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
4641
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Posted - 2014.10.21 19:26:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I remember it was Logibro that posted that BPO's were going away because they "did not work how we want them to." A lot of people were of the opinion it was because it was bad for the economy to have something that never went away.
I am curious why BPO's are coming back in and "for a limited time only." What changed exactly? a)Passive ISK in PC wrecked the economy so badly that the impact of BPOGÇÖs is hardly noticeable.
b)We are not getting a Player to Player market in DUST.
c)All suits are going to be BPO in Legion (or included in the cost of the clone) so the BPO suits of today will simply be interchangeable skins in Legion.
d)Militia items will not be an important part of the Player to Player market in Legion.
Standard Weapon BPOGÇÖs might create a small effect on the Player to Player market in Legion, but not a really big one. People will still be buying Advanced and Proto versions.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
17417
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Posted - 2014.10.21 19:38:00 -
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1. New Team at the helm (BPO removal was done under CCP Atli, CCP Rattati is in charge now mostly. )
2. No player market in the foreseeable future so no future economy to harm.
3. Helps keeps the lights on and other things on Dust as does any other aurum purchases do.
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
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Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
151
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Posted - 2014.10.21 19:44:00 -
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Corruption destroying an economy lol who would have thought... good job scum bags grats on being isk rich... how do you like my shiny suit lol. I am a little sad that fail people with no wit were aloud to cause regression of this game at least that won't happen again.... /tear.
In my view it is how FTP mmo's (GW2, DOTA, and LOL being the best examples) make their money I am shocked it was not advanced at the first stages.
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
2036
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Posted - 2014.10.21 19:59:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:1. New Team at the helm (BPO removal was done under CCP Atli, CCP Rattati is in charge now mostly. )
2. No player market in the foreseeable future so no future economy to harm.
3. Helps keeps the lights on and other things on Dust as does any other aurum purchases do. WHO SAID YOU COULD POST?!
Guess that all makes sense. It is kind of sad when you think about it like that though; "no future economy to harm."
I am curious how they will work in Legion assuming it is a thing and things do transfer over. The Quafe suits and their eye gouging colors work for skins but others are awfully basic.
Thanks for the posts everyone.
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
5070
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Posted - 2014.10.21 20:26:00 -
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I'm not all that worried about my BPOs transferring.
I don't even care about my assets (ISK).
The only reason I've continued to buy things in Dust is their assurance that my SP will have the same impact in Legion.
I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1788
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Posted - 2014.10.21 20:42:00 -
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When I compare the amount of time and enjoyment I've gotten from the game with the amount of money I've spent, it is still a ridiculously cheap affair.
I'm happy to spend AUR to support this game, but I hope that the investment I've made will pay off with future releases of Legion. It's the lack of clarity on that last part from CCP for some time now that makes that me hesitant to purchase additional BPOs and AUR, however.
That said, the Quafe Min Assault is really tempting and I'm super excited for 1.9. |
KA24DERT
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
669
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Posted - 2014.10.21 20:53:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Because PC ruined the economy and CCP selling a few extra BPOs will help "keep the lights on" so to speak.
No one is forcing anyone to buy a BPO, people just want them.
Good for CCP=good for players. Tell me more about how people fighting in PC and burning suits in all out wars ruins the economy, while an item that prints INFINITE free suits is good for the economy. |
Son-Of A-Gun
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
1334
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Posted - 2014.10.21 20:54:00 -
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Somebody finally had that logic light bulb go off above their head "ohhhh, I get it now; four races and only one race get to use an assault BPO and the same goes for heavy, logi and scout. Wow that really is unfair. what were we thinking?.
To their credit though it only took them over a year to have this epiphany.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club
5550
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Posted - 2014.10.21 20:59:00 -
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KA24DERT wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Because PC ruined the economy and CCP selling a few extra BPOs will help "keep the lights on" so to speak.
No one is forcing anyone to buy a BPO, people just want them.
Good for CCP=good for players. Tell me more about how people fighting in PC and burning suits in all out wars ruins the economy, while an item that prints INFINITE free suits is good for the economy. All out war and pc in the same sentence. Lol
Ether way just because there is one thing breaking the economy does not excuse the introduction of another thing just to pile onto the problem. Fix the f*cking thing breaking the economy!
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
17419
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Posted - 2014.10.21 20:59:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:1. New Team at the helm (BPO removal was done under CCP Atli, CCP Rattati is in charge now mostly. )
2. No player market in the foreseeable future so no future economy to harm.
3. Helps keeps the lights on and other things on Dust as does any other aurum purchases do. WHO SAID YOU COULD POST?! Guess that all makes sense. It is kind of sad when you think about it like that though; "no future economy to harm." I am curious how they will work in Legion assuming it is a thing and things do transfer over. The Quafe suits and their eye gouging colors work for skins but others are awfully basic. Thanks for the posts everyone.
Well that is pretty much the reality; we don't know what is transferring over to legion and we know that we can have more of a clean slate when it comes to items as well. CCP last time they updated us wanted to make suits bpos anyways (essentially making the suits more you and less of an object so you would care enough to actually get it painted and the sorts) and shifting the economy of loss and risk over to the items.
I do know that if legion becomes a game and they do the whole transfer thing they are intending to protect investments in terms of time and money. How what when why and who is all still up in the air mind you.
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
\\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
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Cody Sietz
Evzones Public.Disorder.
4082
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Posted - 2014.10.21 21:03:00 -
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KA24DERT wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Because PC ruined the economy and CCP selling a few extra BPOs will help "keep the lights on" so to speak.
No one is forcing anyone to buy a BPO, people just want them.
Good for CCP=good for players. Tell me more about how people fighting in PC and burning suits in all out wars ruins the economy, while an item that prints INFINITE free suits is good for the economy. Well, I'd say the TRILLIONS OF isk that now exist making it so people can run Proto 24/7 in pubs broke the economy.
Not the suits weapons or mods that cost between 300-1500 isk each.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
17420
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Posted - 2014.10.21 21:29:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:When I compare the amount of time and enjoyment I've gotten from the game with the amount of money I've spent, it is still a ridiculously cheap affair.
I'm happy to spend AUR to support this game, but I hope that the investment I've made will pay off with future releases of Legion. It's the lack of clarity on that last part from CCP for some time now that makes that me hesitant to purchase additional BPOs and AUR, however.
That said, the Quafe Min Assault is really tempting and I'm super excited for 1.9.
They are naught for long though make your decision or regret for a time.
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
\\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
4317
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Posted - 2014.10.21 21:32:00 -
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As people have said above, they're incredibly popular things people want, cosmetic suits are the biggest sellers in successful free-to-play games, and there isn't an economy to really hurt, so no reason not to bring them back.
As far as where the cash goes, it does pay to keep the lights on. It also pays the devs working on the game. Honest truth is: CCP making money on DUST is good for DUST players.
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OMFGZOMBIESRUN
841
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Posted - 2014.10.21 21:38:00 -
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CCP are trying to milk as much money from the player base as possible whilst we get to beta test some of the new maps they've made for legion. |
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OMFGZOMBIESRUN
841
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Posted - 2014.10.21 21:40:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:KA24DERT wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Because PC ruined the economy and CCP selling a few extra BPOs will help "keep the lights on" so to speak.
No one is forcing anyone to buy a BPO, people just want them.
Good for CCP=good for players. Tell me more about how people fighting in PC and burning suits in all out wars ruins the economy, while an item that prints INFINITE free suits is good for the economy. Well, I'd say the TRILLIONS OF isk that now exist making it so people can run Proto 24/7 in pubs broke the economy. Not the suits weapons or mods that cost between 300-1500 isk each.
There was never an economy to break. |
Nirwanda Vaughns
840
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Posted - 2014.10.21 21:52:00 -
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to be honest saving a grand total of about 10,000isk? for a fully militia BPO fit STD suit BPO wouldn't have damaged the economy that much anyway. sure the guys who owned them could run free suits for a week to fund their proto suits but thats the small bonus you have by spending -ú/$ but not only that you can still earn 1m isk an hour grinding ambush in a Logi M-I with reps, hive and an uplink. Would CCP have gone as far as removing the frontline/medic/antiarmour/sniper fits too? they're effectivly the same thing as a BPO. the only economy it ruined was CCPs income from consumable AUR items, items people refused to buy more than one of (for warbarge peacocking) because they're too easily lost to the dozens of broken mechanics and fotm's. if CCP had left BPOs and even the Merc packs (but offered racial themed merc packs) as they were then i think this game would be a lot different through the extra income provided because i knwo a lot of peopel would still be buying a merc pack a month if they got a themed suit and weapon/equipment BPO, the 4k AUR and the booster like before.
for me, i like this new found passion the devs have for DUST but a part of me can't help but feel sad that its come 12months too late
Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
proud C-II bpo owner
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Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
154
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Posted - 2014.10.21 21:55:00 -
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I would imagine your influx and expenditure of isk should be within a ratio that is far out of balance do to certain alliances farming each other in pc for isk. These things in a way were meant to balance the game and are in part the reason it is so out of balance now. The reduction of prices I would imagine were put in place as an attempt to balance this allowing most players to afford the vehicles that are an easy buy for those that cheat/cheated.... but who knows.
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The Master Race
Immortal Guides
154
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Posted - 2014.10.21 21:55:00 -
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I would imagine your influx and expenditure of isk should be within a ratio that is far out of balance do to certain alliances farming each other in pc for isk. These things in a way were meant to balance the game and are in part the reason it is so out of balance now. The reduction of prices I would imagine were put in place as an attempt to balance this allowing most players to afford the vehicles that are an easy buy for those that cheat/cheated.... but who knows.
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KA24DERT
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
669
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Posted - 2014.10.21 22:01:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:KA24DERT wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Because PC ruined the economy and CCP selling a few extra BPOs will help "keep the lights on" so to speak.
No one is forcing anyone to buy a BPO, people just want them.
Good for CCP=good for players. Tell me more about how people fighting in PC and burning suits in all out wars ruins the economy, while an item that prints INFINITE free suits is good for the economy. Well, I'd say the TRILLIONS OF isk that now exist making it so people can run Proto 24/7 in pubs broke the economy. Not the suits weapons or mods that cost between 300-1500 isk each. How much does a round of EMP S cost in Eve?
How many such rounds are burned every day?
Is ammo an important part of the Eve economy?
Making infinite amounts of an economy's consumable is unsustainable, and the only reason CCP can get away with selling more BPOs is that the Dust economy is a dead end, and will never interact with Eve.
If the economy would interact with Eve, the influx of ISK would cause the "problem" of players running running proto gear just as you have the "problem" of players in Eve running bling-fits.
Honestly proto gear offers such a marginal advantage that the main complaints against it are psychological. I've run with people doing **** poor, going negative with abysmal warpoints, cussing to the sky about those nasty proto stompers, when it's really a skill and effort thing.
Matchmaking is the solution to closing that disparity, and anyone who disagrees also probably has delusions about being able to out-dunk Micheal Jordan, were he in sandals and you in some Air Jordans.
But another issue is, where would the ISK come from in Dust to run that proto gear if a player chooses to?
The only actual revenue in the game was slammed shut in an overreactive measure, instead of being toned down with a few iterative measures to reduce income and increase accessibility to other players. And THAT has caused a PERMANENT disparity that fuels the hatred for "proto stompers". |
THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.10.21 22:22:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Because PC ruined the economy and CCP selling a few extra BPOs will help "keep the lights on" so to speak.
No one is forcing anyone to buy a BPO, people just want them.
Good for CCP=good for players. More ISK was being made daily from people repeat farming alt accounts, yet it was totally PC that was ruining the "economy"
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Newbs With Bewbs
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Posted - 2014.10.21 22:36:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:KA24DERT wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Because PC ruined the economy and CCP selling a few extra BPOs will help "keep the lights on" so to speak.
No one is forcing anyone to buy a BPO, people just want them.
Good for CCP=good for players. Tell me more about how people fighting in PC and burning suits in all out wars ruins the economy, while an item that prints INFINITE free suits is good for the economy. Well, I'd say the TRILLIONS OF isk that now exist making it so people can run Proto 24/7 in pubs broke the economy. Not the suits weapons or mods that cost between 300-1500 isk each.
The money made from PC isn't really used for proto stomping.
I run proto 24/7 because I don't make a net loss from it, just like all the other players I know that can afford to do it.
99% of the money made from PC is in the control of a select few who just keep it (like in RL).
Thats like saying the 1000's Titans stockpiled in Eve ruin their ecconomy or the Billions of -ús billionaires have ruin the real world economy......
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Newbs With Bewbs
xx The Fairies xx
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Posted - 2014.10.21 22:39:00 -
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The 'economy' is made up by the majority & the vast majority in Dust cannot afford to run Proto even half the time.
Also BPO's could effect the 'economy' if isk was salvaged from them in any way but it isn't.
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GM Archduke
Game Masters C C P Alliance
670
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Posted - 2014.10.21 23:25:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I remember it was Logibro that posted that BPO's were going away because they "did not work how we want them to." A lot of people were of the opinion it was because it was bad for the economy to have something that never went away.
I am curious why BPO's are coming back in and "for a limited time only." What changed exactly?
It's pretty simple, really - you guys, the Mercenaries in DUST 514 wanted BPOs back, at least that's what we've seen here on the Forum, and that's what we've been told in-game by our players.
GM Archduke
CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | DUST 514
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voidfaction
Nos Nothi
604
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Posted - 2014.10.21 23:58:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I remember it was Logibro that posted that BPO's were going away because they "did not work how we want them to." A lot of people were of the opinion it was because it was bad for the economy to have something that never went away.
I am curious why BPO's are coming back in and "for a limited time only." What changed exactly? It's pretty simple, really - you guys, the Mercenaries in DUST 514 wanted BPOs back, at least that's what we've seen here on the Forum, and that's what we've been told in-game by our players. The Mercenaries are all the time asking for RESPECS too. At least that's what I see here on the forums, and that's what i have seen in-game by other players.
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
614
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Posted - 2014.10.22 00:00:00 -
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voidfaction wrote:GM Archduke wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I remember it was Logibro that posted that BPO's were going away because they "did not work how we want them to." A lot of people were of the opinion it was because it was bad for the economy to have something that never went away.
I am curious why BPO's are coming back in and "for a limited time only." What changed exactly? It's pretty simple, really - you guys, the Mercenaries in DUST 514 wanted BPOs back, at least that's what we've seen here on the Forum, and that's what we've been told in-game by our players. The Mercenaries are all the time asking for RESPECS too. At least that's what I see here on the forums, and that's what i have seen in-game by other players. And we've gotten respecs. For free. 4 times. Stop complaining.
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Son-Of A-Gun
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
1336
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Posted - 2014.10.22 00:03:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I remember it was Logibro that posted that BPO's were going away because they "did not work how we want them to." A lot of people were of the opinion it was because it was bad for the economy to have something that never went away.
I am curious why BPO's are coming back in and "for a limited time only." What changed exactly? It's pretty simple, really - you guys, the Mercenaries in DUST 514 wanted BPOs back, at least that's what we've seen here on the Forum, and that's what we've been told in-game by our players.
I actual don't think its that simple. What I have in mind involves siting rooms Cubin cigars and cognac.
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voidfaction
Nos Nothi
604
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Posted - 2014.10.22 00:04:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:voidfaction wrote:GM Archduke wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I remember it was Logibro that posted that BPO's were going away because they "did not work how we want them to." A lot of people were of the opinion it was because it was bad for the economy to have something that never went away.
I am curious why BPO's are coming back in and "for a limited time only." What changed exactly? It's pretty simple, really - you guys, the Mercenaries in DUST 514 wanted BPOs back, at least that's what we've seen here on the Forum, and that's what we've been told in-game by our players. The Mercenaries are all the time asking for RESPECS too. At least that's what I see here on the forums, and that's what i have seen in-game by other players. And we've gotten respecs. For free. 4 times. Stop complaining. Im not complaining as I have used every respec to skill my same original suit every single time. Just making a point I see more respec requests than BPO requests. Difference is they make not money on RESPECS |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club
5556
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Posted - 2014.10.22 00:06:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I remember it was Logibro that posted that BPO's were going away because they "did not work how we want them to." A lot of people were of the opinion it was because it was bad for the economy to have something that never went away.
I am curious why BPO's are coming back in and "for a limited time only." What changed exactly? It's pretty simple, really - you guys, the Mercenaries in DUST 514 wanted BPOs back, at least that's what we've seen here on the Forum, and that's what we've been told in-game by our players.
I'm pretty sure people want to trade and sell items to friends more than they want BPO's. If we had an open market you could trade BPO's already in circulation.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club
5556
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Posted - 2014.10.22 00:13:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I remember it was Logibro that posted that BPO's were going away because they "did not work how we want them to." A lot of people were of the opinion it was because it was bad for the economy to have something that never went away.
I am curious why BPO's are coming back in and "for a limited time only." What changed exactly? It's pretty simple, really - you guys, the Mercenaries in DUST 514 wanted BPOs back, at least that's what we've seen here on the Forum, and that's what we've been told in-game by our players.
I'm pretty sure people want to trade and sell items to friends more than they want BPO's. If we had an open market you could trade BPO's already in circulation.
EVE 21 Day Trial
Templar BPOs 350Mil ISK
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Sir Snugglz
Red Star. EoN.
875
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Posted - 2014.10.22 00:16:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I remember it was Logibro that posted that BPO's were going away because they "did not work how we want them to." A lot of people were of the opinion it was because it was bad for the economy to have something that never went away.
I am curious why BPO's are coming back in and "for a limited time only." What changed exactly? It's pretty simple, really - you guys, the Mercenaries in DUST 514 wanted BPOs back, at least that's what we've seen here on the Forum, and that's what we've been told in-game by our players.
Sooooo, how about them proto tanks and logi DS?????
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GM Archduke
Game Masters C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.22 00:22:00 -
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We do what we can. See the NPC vendor planned for 1.9.
I should have known respecs will be brought up again So just to be sure, keep an eye on the DEV blog - should respecs ever be available again, that's where we'd announce it. Told you guys I can only repeat myself on this
Edit: proto and logistic vehicles are mentioned on every single meeting we have, it's up to Rattati now
GM Archduke
CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | DUST 514
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voidfaction
Nos Nothi
604
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Posted - 2014.10.22 00:31:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:We do what we can. See the NPC vendor planned for 1.9. I should have known respecs will be brought up again So just to be sure, keep an eye on the DEV blog - should respecs ever be available again, that's where we'd announce it. Told you guys I can only repeat myself on this Edit: proto and logistic vehicles are mentioned on every single meeting we have, it's up to Rattati now Sorry about that, lol
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voidfaction
Nos Nothi
604
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Posted - 2014.10.22 00:34:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:GM Archduke wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I remember it was Logibro that posted that BPO's were going away because they "did not work how we want them to." A lot of people were of the opinion it was because it was bad for the economy to have something that never went away.
I am curious why BPO's are coming back in and "for a limited time only." What changed exactly? It's pretty simple, really - you guys, the Mercenaries in DUST 514 wanted BPOs back, at least that's what we've seen here on the Forum, and that's what we've been told in-game by our players. I'm pretty sure people want to trade and sell items to friends more than they want BPO's. If we had an open market you could trade BPO's already in circulation. Yes, that would be great so I can give my new toons my milita bpo gear. Or tie the BPO to account so you dont have to buy them for each toon or lose them when biomass.
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BlazeXYZ
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.22 00:48:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:We do what we can. See the NPC vendor planned for 1.9. I should have known respecs will be brought up again So just to be sure, keep an eye on the DEV blog - should respecs ever be available again, that's where we'd announce it. Told you guys I can only repeat myself on this Edit: proto and logistic vehicles are mentioned on every single meeting we have, it's up to Rattati now
Everytime you say something about respecs I have the feeling we're gonna get one.
The Blazing Intellect Machine
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howard sanchez
980
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Posted - 2014.10.22 00:49:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:voidfaction wrote:GM Archduke wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I remember it was Logibro that posted that BPO's were going away because they "did not work how we want them to." A lot of people were of the opinion it was because it was bad for the economy to have something that never went away.
I am curious why BPO's are coming back in and "for a limited time only." What changed exactly? It's pretty simple, really - you guys, the Mercenaries in DUST 514 wanted BPOs back, at least that's what we've seen here on the Forum, and that's what we've been told in-game by our players. The Mercenaries are all the time asking for RESPECS too. At least that's what I see here on the forums, and that's what i have seen in-game by other players. And we've gotten respecs. For free. 4 times. Stop complaining. I have said it before and I will say it again: sell RESPECs for aurum.
Good idea for BPOs, good idea for skill distribution. Don't sweat the long term because here and now is the best time to test how game balance in micro transaction environments can be pushed and managed. It's win win.
Show off your Quafe
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
9838
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Posted - 2014.10.22 01:01:00 -
[42] - Quote
BlazeXYZ wrote:GM Archduke wrote:We do what we can. See the NPC vendor planned for 1.9. I should have known respecs will be brought up again So just to be sure, keep an eye on the DEV blog - should respecs ever be available again, that's where we'd announce it. Told you guys I can only repeat myself on this Edit: proto and logistic vehicles are mentioned on every single meeting we have, it's up to Rattati now Everytime you say something about respecs I have the feeling we're gonna get one.
Every time I hear about respecs, a blueberry dies.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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sabre prime
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
624
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Posted - 2014.10.22 01:10:00 -
[43] - Quote
We will get another respec.
The slow blade penetrates the shield.
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medomai grey
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
1036
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Posted - 2014.10.22 01:27:00 -
[44] - Quote
Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I remember it was Logibro that posted that BPO's were going away because they "did not work how we want them to." A lot of people were of the opinion it was because it was bad for the economy to have something that never went away.
I am curious why BPO's are coming back in and "for a limited time only." What changed exactly? Because CCP's consumers are willing to part with their money for BPOs.
How to balance cloaks.
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GM Archduke
Game Masters C C P Alliance
675
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Posted - 2014.10.22 01:37:00 -
[45] - Quote
howard sanchez wrote:I have said it before and I will say it again: sell RESPECs for aurum.
Good idea for BPOs, good idea for skill distribution. Don't sweat the long term because here and now is the best time to test how game balance in micro transaction environments can be pushed and managed. It's win win.
Yes, this is often suggested, and a possible option if respecs will ever ever ever be available again - keep an eye on the DEV blog, that's where we'd announce if this ever happens.
GM Archduke
CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | DUST 514
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ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1636
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Posted - 2014.10.22 01:59:00 -
[46] - Quote
GM Archduke wrote:howard sanchez wrote:I have said it before and I will say it again: sell RESPECs for aurum.
Good idea for BPOs, good idea for skill distribution. Don't sweat the long term because here and now is the best time to test how game balance in micro transaction environments can be pushed and managed. It's win win. Yes, this is often suggested, and a possible option if respecs will ever ever ever be available again - keep an eye on the DEV blog, that's where we'd announce if this ever happens.
You know what would be really nice, if I could trade my 'useless' BPOs (from a Racial standpoint) for these shiny new ones that make more sense for my skill set (aka, all Minmatar suits).
If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known.
Also, Raptors...
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
5086
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Posted - 2014.10.22 02:04:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:GM Archduke wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I remember it was Logibro that posted that BPO's were going away because they "did not work how we want them to." A lot of people were of the opinion it was because it was bad for the economy to have something that never went away.
I am curious why BPO's are coming back in and "for a limited time only." What changed exactly? It's pretty simple, really - you guys, the Mercenaries in DUST 514 wanted BPOs back, at least that's what we've seen here on the Forum, and that's what we've been told in-game by our players. I'm pretty sure people want to trade and sell items to friends more than they want BPO's. If we had an open market you could trade BPO's already in circulation.
I have 4 BPO LAVs.
I'd be a rich mofo
I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
898
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Posted - 2014.10.22 02:09:00 -
[48] - Quote
Thor Odinson42 wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:GM Archduke wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I remember it was Logibro that posted that BPO's were going away because they "did not work how we want them to." A lot of people were of the opinion it was because it was bad for the economy to have something that never went away.
I am curious why BPO's are coming back in and "for a limited time only." What changed exactly? It's pretty simple, really - you guys, the Mercenaries in DUST 514 wanted BPOs back, at least that's what we've seen here on the Forum, and that's what we've been told in-game by our players. I'm pretty sure people want to trade and sell items to friends more than they want BPO's. If we had an open market you could trade BPO's already in circulation. I have 4 BPO LAVs. I'd be a rich mofo
thered be questionable RMT transactions if we could trade BPO lavs....
and it would be awwweeeesssssoooommmmmeeeee
Give me ammo types or give me burst RRs! Death is irrelevant.
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BrotherofHavok
PIanet Express Top Men.
97
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Posted - 2014.10.22 03:07:00 -
[49] - Quote
Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I remember it was Logibro that posted that BPO's were going away because they "did not work how we want them to." A lot of people were of the opinion it was because it was bad for the economy to have something that never went away.
I am curious why BPO's are coming back in and "for a limited time only." What changed exactly?
- "Did not work..." was the nice way of saying that they weren't putting in the process of allowing players to gather materials and create their own modules, weapons and vehicles. The BPO's were meant for limited uses or limited by resources, but they weren't so they were removed.
- Why again? Simple, CCP wants more money. So far Legion has yet to be green lit... meaning it may or may not ever come to pass. Until they decide yes or no, Dust 514 will continue. Although they've stated that there will be no new content for the remainder of 2014 and up to Fan Fest 2015, they still need something to keep people's attention and keep them spending money in the game to keep it up and running without incurring Red in the books. An unlimited source of gear, even ****** militia ones are apparently enough of a draw in their eyes.
Sincerely,
Your Multi-purpose Everything User
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KA24DERT
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
670
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Posted - 2014.10.22 03:09:00 -
[50] - Quote
GM Archduke wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I remember it was Logibro that posted that BPO's were going away because they "did not work how we want them to." A lot of people were of the opinion it was because it was bad for the economy to have something that never went away.
I am curious why BPO's are coming back in and "for a limited time only." What changed exactly? It's pretty simple, really - you guys, the Mercenaries in DUST 514 wanted BPOs back, at least that's what we've seen here on the Forum, and that's what we've been told in-game by our players. Yes, there was demand, but the true reasons these are a reality are that:
1) CCP needs to get paid, and there's nothing wrong with that. 2) Dust will never be tied into the Eve economy, so it's ok to have a game breaking feature like BPOs that print infinite equipment. |
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
904
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Posted - 2014.10.22 03:09:00 -
[51] - Quote
BrotherofHavok wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I remember it was Logibro that posted that BPO's were going away because they "did not work how we want them to." A lot of people were of the opinion it was because it was bad for the economy to have something that never went away.
I am curious why BPO's are coming back in and "for a limited time only." What changed exactly?
- "Did not work..." was the nice way of saying that they weren't putting in the process of allowing players to gather materials and create their own modules, weapons and vehicles. The BPO's were meant for limited uses or limited by resources, but they weren't so they were removed.
- Why again? Simple, CCP wants more money. So far Legion has yet to be green lit... meaning it may or may not ever come to pass. Until they decide yes or no, Dust 514 will continue. Although they've stated that there will be no new content for the remainder of 2014 and up to Fan Fest 2015, they still need something to keep people's attention and keep them spending money in the game to keep it up and running without incurring Red in the books. An unlimited source of gear, even ****** militia ones are apparently enough of a draw in their eyes.
You aware 1.9 is in the works bud?
Give me ammo types or give me burst RRs! Death is irrelevant.
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CLONE ALPHA 001
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
44
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Posted - 2014.10.22 07:35:00 -
[52] - Quote
GM Archduke wrote:howard sanchez wrote:I have said it before and I will say it again: sell RESPECs for aurum.
Good idea for BPOs, good idea for skill distribution. Don't sweat the long term because here and now is the best time to test how game balance in micro transaction environments can be pushed and managed. It's win win. Yes, this is often suggested, and a possible option if respecs will ever ever ever be available again - keep an eye on the DEV blog, that's where we'd announce if this ever happens. oh **** pleases do not sell respecs ever this will be the final nail in the dust coffin |
Nirwanda Vaughns
843
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Posted - 2014.10.22 09:56:00 -
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ResistanceGTA wrote:GM Archduke wrote:howard sanchez wrote:I have said it before and I will say it again: sell RESPECs for aurum.
Good idea for BPOs, good idea for skill distribution. Don't sweat the long term because here and now is the best time to test how game balance in micro transaction environments can be pushed and managed. It's win win. Yes, this is often suggested, and a possible option if respecs will ever ever ever be available again - keep an eye on the DEV blog, that's where we'd announce if this ever happens. You know what would be really nice, if I could trade my 'useless' BPOs (from a Racial standpoint) for these shiny new ones that make more sense for my skill set (aka, all Minmatar suits).
somehting similar was brought up a while ago on the forums. if you have multiple BPOs of a certain type, havihng them swapped to other racial suits so if you have 4 dragonfly scouts you can change them to dragonfly scout M-I, A-I, C-I while keeping the colour scheme of the dragonfly, same as with the dragonfly assault.
also us templar/mystery code owners are still hoping to receive a 'templar' Scout A-I. any feedback on that would be spiffing
Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
proud C-II bpo owner
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Stevez WingYip
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2014.10.22 10:15:00 -
[54] - Quote
howard sanchez wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:voidfaction wrote:GM Archduke wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I remember it was Logibro that posted that BPO's were going away because they "did not work how we want them to." A lot of people were of the opinion it was because it was bad for the economy to have something that never went away.
I am curious why BPO's are coming back in and "for a limited time only." What changed exactly? It's pretty simple, really - you guys, the Mercenaries in DUST 514 wanted BPOs back, at least that's what we've seen here on the Forum, and that's what we've been told in-game by our players. The Mercenaries are all the time asking for RESPECS too. At least that's what I see here on the forums, and that's what i have seen in-game by other players. And we've gotten respecs. For free. 4 times. Stop complaining. I have said it before and I will say it again: sell RESPECs for aurum. Good idea for BPOs, good idea for skill distribution. Don't sweat the long term because here and now is the best time to test how game balance in micro transaction environments can be pushed and managed. It's win win.
You do realise how stupid of an idea this is? Everyone will just pick the cookie cutter build and you will have no variation on what you see on the battlefield. If the best is AR, then EVERYONE will have AR because they can just max respec into it. NO RESPECS. This is a game where your choices matter. |
Stevez WingYip
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2014.10.22 10:17:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:howard sanchez wrote:I have said it before and I will say it again: sell RESPECs for aurum.
Good idea for BPOs, good idea for skill distribution. Don't sweat the long term because here and now is the best time to test how game balance in micro transaction environments can be pushed and managed. It's win win. Yes, this is often suggested, and a possible option if respecs will ever ever ever be available again - keep an eye on the DEV blog, that's where we'd announce if this ever happens.
STUPID IDEA! EVERYONE will just respec to the flavour of the month and then there will be NO variation on the battlefield. 20 AR suits and NOTHING else. Then if they get nerfed, we get the same thing again with the next best thing. This game is about choice and customisation. DO NOT ALLOW ANYMORE REPSPECS. CCP have done well so far to not cave in to these whiners. If you want something so bad, just skill for it. More than likely, we will be getting ONE more skill repsec in legion I would guess. Wait until then. |
Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
155
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Posted - 2014.10.22 11:54:00 -
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Stevez that is true unless they obtain balance before then. As the game is though there are obvious front runners like CR, RR, Bolt pistol, and scrambler pistol. Along with the state of assaults and commandos I would full spec scout if and lowspec assault and heavy for my bpos.
New, delicious, Soylent green the miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.
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RAMB0
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2014.10.22 12:16:00 -
[57] - Quote
Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I remember it was Logibro that posted that BPO's were going away because they "did not work how we want them to." A lot of people were of the opinion it was because it was bad for the economy to have something that never went away.
I am curious why BPO's are coming back in and "for a limited time only." What changed exactly?
Because CCP is broke and the players are too stupid to keep spending more money. I will not give CCP another penny! No matter what they do, they will not regain my trust.
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Nirwanda Vaughns
846
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Posted - 2014.10.22 13:43:00 -
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gonna agree that i think respecs for AUR would be final nail in coffin for the game. i think we shoudl have somehting similar to EVE. there you can alter your characters attributes (that affect skill training speeds) once every 12 months from the last time you did it. allow DUST players something similar to completely return 1 tree of skills per 12 moths (dropsuit command, weapons, dropsuit upgrades, vehicles ect) for new players they have an option to fully return ALL skillpoints after the first 3months of playing. but it baffles me why the playerbase constantly believe they're entitled t oa respec. its your decision to go into a suit. if you choose to go into a fotm then its your own stupid fault, the only time i believe a respec is valid is if something major changes in an area. when we got all the suits, the full wepaons and when the heavy guys finally got their racial suits. other than that if your skill bonus gets changed make the most of the new roles, think outside the box and make the most of its strengths not whine focus on its weakensses. i skilled into AR's, everthing but optimization is at level 5 (thats at 3) AR's got nerfed, they got slightly buffed, nerfed again, slightly buffed then major buffed. folk would have whined for a respec whne they got nerfed, now they're whining for a respec cos the ARs got buffed and the stuff they reskilled into got balanced oh boo-bloody-hoo stuff goes in and out in this game, whats OP for a couple of months gets fixed, whats p**s poor gets buffed to balance. just make the most of what you've got and stop being a bunch of lil whiney b***ches because your 'easy mode' suit/weapon got balanced and you actually have to get a bit of real skill to get kills now
Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
proud C-II bpo owner
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kyoudai Furinkazan
1290
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Posted - 2014.10.22 14:19:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I remember it was Logibro that posted that BPO's were going away because they "did not work how we want them to." A lot of people were of the opinion it was because it was bad for the economy to have something that never went away.
I am curious why BPO's are coming back in and "for a limited time only." What changed exactly? It's pretty simple, really - you guys, the Mercenaries in DUST 514 wanted BPOs back, at least that's what we've seen here on the Forum, and that's what we've been told in-game by our players. Why isn't this same " logic " used for a skill point refund , oh ... is it because it's not profitable in the eyes of management , the community asks for this as well and I seen and see more posts asking for a skill point refund then even mentioned any BPO even after they were taken off the markets .
The same people spammed BPO posts over and over until they disappeared but now there was this great outcry for BPO's and CCP just had to answer the call .
What a joke .
It's easy to see and understand that this was a money grab , just like before FF and the announcement there in and of , this is the same , so please don't use " The Community Outcry " as a reason for such because the same community asks for skill point refunds in post after post from different and multiple people but those same get stonewalled on occasion .
This is a joke .
You anti people can knock me all you like but I know a few things , SP refund will bring back players who sit dormant , SP refund will bring a sense of excitement to the community as a whole , even if you didn't and don't support it , there are many who do and will and you won't stop us from stating out beliefs , SP refund will increase competition in game ( which many of the anti crowd just don't want ) , SP refund WILL BRING REVINUE threw increased numbers of players and the traffic that ensues , SP refund would allow players to reset their character and clear out un used and useless items and clear SP's locked into these same un used , underused and useless skills and items that clutter one's inventory .
You might not like our reasons or our opinions but most of the people who fight for such , only care about the well being of the game , they want better fights and the ability to fight better and stronger in matches , they want some of those who they fought with in the past to come back into the fold and play again , they want to feel like they actually had a hand in the development and direction of their character and not forced to suffer because of the continual directional changes of the game and hence , having to skill into areas to fight the FOTM's and balancing issues that plagued this game and now since the rebalancing of such , are now stuck with items and skills that are no longer useful , I can go on and on as to why most desire such .
Stop fighting us and begin to support our cause because WE want the best for the game and the environment .
I guess the only difference is that it's not a money grabbing effort to exploit but a business decision that would bring excitement and competition to this game and I guess that's something that can't be profited off of .
Or in the long run , could it ???
Edit : Mostly EVE players fight against a refund like the poster above me ... It shows who has the real power in this game and the fact that Dust players have NO say or have ever had any weight in this game .
What a joke .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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Luk Manag
of Terror TRE GAFFEL
542
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Posted - 2014.10.22 15:20:00 -
[60] - Quote
BPOs are not the same as the Re-Spec debate.
There were BPO haves and have-nots. It was never fair to remove BPO access for new players without completely removing them. They didn't want to refund dollars or AUR so they decided to just let the vets keep their BPOs. Re-specs are currently denied to everyone.
That said, I think CCP should experiment with monetization. Anything goes at this point.
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
2050
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Posted - 2014.10.22 15:37:00 -
[61] - Quote
Wel,l hasn't this become a "respec discussion" thread. I guess I will weigh on what it has become.
The disconnect between people want respecs often and those that are against them barring major changes is an interesting one. The strawmen are "these EVE guys are controlling our game. DUST is not EVE so stop trying to make it Internet Spaceships" and "these guys just cry and cry because they don't want to actually think and keep with their decisions." Strawmen are pretty worthless for actually getting anywhere, especially when both sides are doing it.
Simply put, DUST is not EVE. It is meant to be faster paced and more forgiving. This is why respecs are given at all rather than just Neural Remap. The argument of "why no respecs for Aurum if we want it?" is no different than if players in WoW wanted to be able to buy the best gear in the game; it is one of those things that's natural to want, but that you shouldn't necessarily have. Saying "no X ever because it doesn't work like that in EVE" is just as facile though as it is a different game and genre and thank Tibus Heth for that one because a FPS that was as slow, methodical, and convoluted as EVE would not work well, just as like if an RTS required as much of a grind as an MMO.
Again, I do want to thank the CPM guys, Archduke, and everyone else for supplying the answer to the original question.
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1801
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Posted - 2014.10.22 16:49:00 -
[62] - Quote
Newbs With Bewbs wrote:I run proto 24/7 because I don't make a net loss from it, just like all the other players I know that can afford to do it.
Not with this character, you don't.
679 total kills. 3.19 KDR.
I know a lot of very good players in this game. None of them can afford to run Proto all the time....without some other source of ISK. |
Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
911
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Posted - 2014.10.22 17:57:00 -
[63] - Quote
Leadfoot10 wrote:Newbs With Bewbs wrote:I run proto 24/7 because I don't make a net loss from it, just like all the other players I know that can afford to do it. Not with this character, you don't. 679 total kills. 3.19 KDR. I know a lot of very good players in this game. None of them can afford to run Proto all the time....without some other source of ISK.
I do, but thats because my corp has gone fully casual, so I ninja'ed the warchest for myself being CEO and all.
So, i disprove your point by proving it....right...?
Give me ammo types or give me burst RRs! Death is irrelevant.
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Nirwanda Vaughns
846
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Posted - 2014.10.22 18:15:00 -
[64] - Quote
Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Wel,l hasn't this become a "respec discussion" thread. I guess I will weigh on what it has become.
The disconnect between people want respecs often and those that are against them barring major changes is an interesting one. The strawmen are "these EVE guys are controlling our game. DUST is not EVE so stop trying to make it Internet Spaceships" and "these guys just cry and cry because they don't want to actually think and keep with their decisions." Strawmen are pretty worthless for actually getting anywhere, especially when both sides are doing it.
Simply put, DUST is not EVE. It is meant to be faster paced and more forgiving. This is why respecs are given at all rather than just Neural Remap. The argument of "why no respecs for Aurum if we want it?" is no different than if players in WoW wanted to be able to buy the best gear in the game; it is one of those things that's natural to want, but that you shouldn't necessarily have. Saying "no X ever because it doesn't work like that in EVE" is just as facile though as it is a different game and genre and thank Tibus Heth for that one because a FPS that was as slow, methodical, and convoluted as EVE would not work well, just as like if an RTS required as much of a grind as an MMO.
Again, I do want to thank the CPM guys, Archduke, and everyone else for supplying the answer to the original question.
if this game had more aspects of EVE in it, it'd be a whole lot better and more balanced game. EVEs lasted 11yrs for a reason and what helps it stand out is the no-nonsense attitude of CCP in terms of reimbursements for things and i think the same should stand with dust. not only that but i don't know any other FPS game where the developers give you back XP if they change something. i don't see battlfield 4's forums full of people wanting XP from their recon class moving into assault class cos a sniper rifle got altered. what is worth noting is that isn't it a coincidence that when there are changes to modules/suits/weapons we get a 3x SP event? could this perhaps be structured to allow people to spec into alternate skills? too many peopel want everything thier way. if they can't use the stuff they want the way they want to they just come cry on the forums with their toys threw out the pram
on the original topic of BPOs though the fact is they wouldn't and dont affect the economy. they're nice fancy (sometimes shiny) vanity items that help fund the game a little. personally i wish the Devs would stick to more racial themes instead (the Quafe shoudl have been gallente Assault/logi/scout/sentinel) but i'll take what they're giving out and i just hope we get other class/racial BPOs on a regular rotation (and at a reonable price 22k AUR is far too much) perhaps with a full set of BPOs for each race for 4 weeks at a time. the black eagle galolente set, the caldari state protectorate set, Khanid amarr set, nefantar minmatar sets ect, all 4 (perhaps 5?) class of suits for all 4 races with bundle prices as well 30k AUR for 4 BPOs and i think CCP would see the coffers filled a bit more
Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
proud C-II bpo owner
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Dimitri Rascolovitch
The Immortal Knights
251
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Posted - 2014.10.23 03:38:00 -
[65] - Quote
GM Archduke wrote:We do what we can. See the NPC vendor planned for 1.9. I should have known respecs will be brought up again So just to be sure, keep an eye on the DEV blog - should respecs ever be available again, that's where we'd announce it. Told you guys I can only repeat myself on this Edit: proto and logistic vehicles are mentioned on every single meeting we have, it's up to Rattati now
poke him with a bigger stick that says "Free the Logistic, Enforcer, and Marauders ", then we can rebalance AV towards the proto tier vehicles
Bring back the Marauders, Enforcers, Logistic, and Scout LAVS and Dropships
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Ivy Zalinto
Second-Nature
376
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Posted - 2014.10.23 03:57:00 -
[66] - Quote
Since bpo's are coming back, any racial scout bpo's coming to the field?
Been wanting a templar scout or a caldari bpo of some kind.
I like my gallente but another suit would be nice =)
Dedicated Stealth Scout.
Scout instructor; Learning Coalition
Scrambler pistols are still lethal.
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Dimitri Rascolovitch
The Immortal Knights
252
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Posted - 2014.10.23 04:00:00 -
[67] - Quote
Ivy Zalinto wrote:Since bpo's are coming back, any racial scout bpo's coming to the field?
Been wanting a templar scout or a caldari bpo of some kind.
I like my gallente but another suit would be nice =)
quafe scout bpos
Bring back the Marauders, Enforcers, Logistic, and Scout LAVS and Dropships
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Ivy Zalinto
Second-Nature
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Posted - 2014.10.23 04:12:00 -
[68] - Quote
Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote:Ivy Zalinto wrote:Since bpo's are coming back, any racial scout bpo's coming to the field?
Been wanting a templar scout or a caldari bpo of some kind.
I like my gallente but another suit would be nice =) quafe scout bpos Do they have those? I have quafe gallente scouts but they are proto and i dont want to use them cause i dont see them coming out again really.
I wouldnt mind a rose pink scout to use. Bright pink....gonna be fun to kill everything in pink...I like pink..
Dedicated Stealth Scout.
Pay attention to your surroundings or your getting 2 in the back of the head.
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Dimitri Rascolovitch
The Immortal Knights
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Posted - 2014.10.23 04:14:00 -
[69] - Quote
Ivy Zalinto wrote:Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote:Ivy Zalinto wrote:Since bpo's are coming back, any racial scout bpo's coming to the field?
Been wanting a templar scout or a caldari bpo of some kind.
I like my gallente but another suit would be nice =) quafe scout bpos Do they have those? I have quafe gallente scouts but they are proto and i dont want to use them cause i dont see them coming out again really. I wouldnt mind a rose pink scout to use. Bright pink....gonna be fun to kill everything in pink...I like pink..
not yet, but soon Oct/23
Bring back the Marauders, Enforcers, Logistic, and Scout LAVS and Dropships
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Ivy Zalinto
Second-Nature
376
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Posted - 2014.10.23 04:20:00 -
[70] - Quote
Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote:Ivy Zalinto wrote:Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote:Ivy Zalinto wrote:Since bpo's are coming back, any racial scout bpo's coming to the field?
Been wanting a templar scout or a caldari bpo of some kind.
I like my gallente but another suit would be nice =) quafe scout bpos Do they have those? I have quafe gallente scouts but they are proto and i dont want to use them cause i dont see them coming out again really. I wouldnt mind a rose pink scout to use. Bright pink....gonna be fun to kill everything in pink...I like pink.. not yet, but soon Oct/23 Neat! My quafe gk0 looks different though. More of a rosy color than the bright pink. But deffinetly something to look into
Dedicated Stealth Scout.
Pay attention to your surroundings or your getting 2 in the back of the head.
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
2107
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Posted - 2014.10.23 05:53:00 -
[71] - Quote
Q. "Why are BPO`s a thing again?"
A. Because they make CCP money and the reasons for taking them away originally are no longer apparent.
"Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones"
"Guns for show, Knives for a pro"
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
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