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Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Capital Punishment. 2033	Posted - 2014.10.21 19:13:00 - [1] - Quote I remember it was Logibro that posted that BPO's were going away because they "did not work how we want them to." A lot of people were of the opinion it was because it was bad for the economy to have something that never went away. I am curious why BPO's are coming back in and "for a limited time only." What changed exactly? "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Cody Sietz Evzones Public.Disorder. 4080	Posted - 2014.10.21 19:16:00 - [2] - Quote Because PC ruined the economy and CCP selling a few extra BPOs will help "keep the lights on" so to speak. No one is forcing anyone to buy a BPO, people just want them. Good for CCP=good for players. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 880	Posted - 2014.10.21 19:18:00 - [3] - Quote Because CCP Z is going ahead with Legion Progression 1.0. This way they get money to keep going. :) Give me ammo types or give me burst RRs! Death is irrelevant.
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3950	Posted - 2014.10.21 19:22:00 - [4] - Quote Because player market isn't coming, and people like shiny.
Nirwanda Vaughns 839	Posted - 2014.10.21 19:25:00 - [5] - Quote Cash grab. they need to pay some christmas bonus' to themselves Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club 5544	Posted - 2014.10.21 19:26:00 - [6] - Quote Because the market is no longer in the future so there is no reason to try to stabilize the economy anymore. This is my opinion. EVE 21 Day Trial Templar BPOs 350Mil ISK
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 4641	Posted - 2014.10.21 19:26:00 - [7] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: I remember it was Logibro that posted that BPO's were going away because they "did not work how we want them to." A lot of people were of the opinion it was because it was bad for the economy to have something that never went away. I am curious why BPO's are coming back in and "for a limited time only." What changed exactly? a)Passive ISK in PC wrecked the economy so badly that the impact of BPOGÇÖs is hardly noticeable. b)We are not getting a Player to Player market in DUST. c)All suits are going to be BPO in Legion (or included in the cost of the clone) so the BPO suits of today will simply be interchangeable skins in Legion. d)Militia items will not be an important part of the Player to Player market in Legion. Standard Weapon BPOGÇÖs might create a small effect on the Player to Player market in Legion, but not a really big one. People will still be buying Advanced and Proto versions. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 17417	Posted - 2014.10.21 19:38:00 - [8] - Quote 1. New Team at the helm (BPO removal was done under CCP Atli, CCP Rattati is in charge now mostly. ) 2. No player market in the foreseeable future so no future economy to harm. 3. Helps keeps the lights on and other things on Dust as does any other aurum purchases do. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
Blueprint For Murder Immortal Guides 151	Posted - 2014.10.21 19:44:00 - [9] - Quote Corruption destroying an economy lol who would have thought... good job scum bags grats on being isk rich... how do you like my shiny suit lol. I am a little sad that fail people with no wit were aloud to cause regression of this game at least that won't happen again.... /tear. In my view it is how FTP mmo's (GW2, DOTA, and LOL being the best examples) make their money I am shocked it was not advanced at the first stages. New, delicious, Soylent green the miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Capital Punishment. 2036	Posted - 2014.10.21 19:59:00 - [10] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: 1. New Team at the helm (BPO removal was done under CCP Atli, CCP Rattati is in charge now mostly. ) 2. No player market in the foreseeable future so no future economy to harm. 3. Helps keeps the lights on and other things on Dust as does any other aurum purchases do. WHO SAID YOU COULD POST?! Guess that all makes sense. It is kind of sad when you think about it like that though; "no future economy to harm." I am curious how they will work in Legion assuming it is a thing and things do transfer over. The Quafe suits and their eye gouging colors work for skins but others are awfully basic. Thanks for the posts everyone. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"

Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5070	Posted - 2014.10.21 20:26:00 - [11] - Quote I'm not all that worried about my BPOs transferring. I don't even care about my assets (ISK). The only reason I've continued to buy things in Dust is their assurance that my SP will have the same impact in Legion. I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1788	Posted - 2014.10.21 20:42:00 - [12] - Quote When I compare the amount of time and enjoyment I've gotten from the game with the amount of money I've spent, it is still a ridiculously cheap affair. I'm happy to spend AUR to support this game, but I hope that the investment I've made will pay off with future releases of Legion. It's the lack of clarity on that last part from CCP for some time now that makes that me hesitant to purchase additional BPOs and AUR, however. That said, the Quafe Min Assault is really tempting and I'm super excited for 1.9.
KA24DERT TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 669	Posted - 2014.10.21 20:53:00 - [13] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Because PC ruined the economy and CCP selling a few extra BPOs will help "keep the lights on" so to speak. No one is forcing anyone to buy a BPO, people just want them. Good for CCP=good for players. Tell me more about how people fighting in PC and burning suits in all out wars ruins the economy, while an item that prints INFINITE free suits is good for the economy.
Son-Of A-Gun Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1334	Posted - 2014.10.21 20:54:00 - [14] - Quote Somebody finally had that logic light bulb go off above their head "ohhhh, I get it now; four races and only one race get to use an assault BPO and the same goes for heavy, logi and scout. Wow that really is unfair. what were we thinking?. To their credit though it only took them over a year to have this epiphany. {:)}{3GÇó>
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club 5550	Posted - 2014.10.21 20:59:00 - [15] - Quote KA24DERT wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Because PC ruined the economy and CCP selling a few extra BPOs will help "keep the lights on" so to speak. No one is forcing anyone to buy a BPO, people just want them. Good for CCP=good for players. Tell me more about how people fighting in PC and burning suits in all out wars ruins the economy, while an item that prints INFINITE free suits is good for the economy. All out war and pc in the same sentence. Lol Ether way just because there is one thing breaking the economy does not excuse the introduction of another thing just to pile onto the problem. Fix the f*cking thing breaking the economy! EVE 21 Day Trial Templar BPOs 350Mil ISK
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 17419	Posted - 2014.10.21 20:59:00 - [16] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: 1. New Team at the helm (BPO removal was done under CCP Atli, CCP Rattati is in charge now mostly. ) 2. No player market in the foreseeable future so no future economy to harm. 3. Helps keeps the lights on and other things on Dust as does any other aurum purchases do. WHO SAID YOU COULD POST?! Guess that all makes sense. It is kind of sad when you think about it like that though; "no future economy to harm." I am curious how they will work in Legion assuming it is a thing and things do transfer over. The Quafe suits and their eye gouging colors work for skins but others are awfully basic. Thanks for the posts everyone. Well that is pretty much the reality; we don't know what is transferring over to legion and we know that we can have more of a clean slate when it comes to items as well. CCP last time they updated us wanted to make suits bpos anyways (essentially making the suits more you and less of an object so you would care enough to actually get it painted and the sorts) and shifting the economy of loss and risk over to the items. I do know that if legion becomes a game and they do the whole transfer thing they are intending to protect investments in terms of time and money. How what when why and who is all still up in the air mind you. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
Cody Sietz Evzones Public.Disorder. 4082	Posted - 2014.10.21 21:03:00 - [17] - Quote KA24DERT wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Because PC ruined the economy and CCP selling a few extra BPOs will help "keep the lights on" so to speak. No one is forcing anyone to buy a BPO, people just want them. Good for CCP=good for players. Tell me more about how people fighting in PC and burning suits in all out wars ruins the economy, while an item that prints INFINITE free suits is good for the economy. Well, I'd say the TRILLIONS OF isk that now exist making it so people can run Proto 24/7 in pubs broke the economy. Not the suits weapons or mods that cost between 300-1500 isk each. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 17420	Posted - 2014.10.21 21:29:00 - [18] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: When I compare the amount of time and enjoyment I've gotten from the game with the amount of money I've spent, it is still a ridiculously cheap affair. I'm happy to spend AUR to support this game, but I hope that the investment I've made will pay off with future releases of Legion. It's the lack of clarity on that last part from CCP for some time now that makes that me hesitant to purchase additional BPOs and AUR, however. That said, the Quafe Min Assault is really tempting and I'm super excited for 1.9. They are naught for long though make your decision or regret for a time. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 4317	Posted - 2014.10.21 21:32:00 - [19] - Quote As people have said above, they're incredibly popular things people want, cosmetic suits are the biggest sellers in successful free-to-play games, and there isn't an economy to really hurt, so no reason not to bring them back. As far as where the cash goes, it does pay to keep the lights on. It also pays the devs working on the game. Honest truth is: CCP making money on DUST is good for DUST players. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 841	Posted - 2014.10.21 21:38:00 - [20] - Quote CCP are trying to milk as much money from the player base as possible whilst we get to beta test some of the new maps they've made for legion.

Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 841	Posted - 2014.10.21 21:40:00 - [21] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: KA24DERT wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Because PC ruined the economy and CCP selling a few extra BPOs will help "keep the lights on" so to speak. No one is forcing anyone to buy a BPO, people just want them. Good for CCP=good for players. Tell me more about how people fighting in PC and burning suits in all out wars ruins the economy, while an item that prints INFINITE free suits is good for the economy. Well, I'd say the TRILLIONS OF isk that now exist making it so people can run Proto 24/7 in pubs broke the economy. Not the suits weapons or mods that cost between 300-1500 isk each. There was never an economy to break.
Nirwanda Vaughns 840	Posted - 2014.10.21 21:52:00 - [22] - Quote to be honest saving a grand total of about 10,000isk? for a fully militia BPO fit STD suit BPO wouldn't have damaged the economy that much anyway. sure the guys who owned them could run free suits for a week to fund their proto suits but thats the small bonus you have by spending -ú/$ but not only that you can still earn 1m isk an hour grinding ambush in a Logi M-I with reps, hive and an uplink. Would CCP have gone as far as removing the frontline/medic/antiarmour/sniper fits too? they're effectivly the same thing as a BPO. the only economy it ruined was CCPs income from consumable AUR items, items people refused to buy more than one of (for warbarge peacocking) because they're too easily lost to the dozens of broken mechanics and fotm's. if CCP had left BPOs and even the Merc packs (but offered racial themed merc packs) as they were then i think this game would be a lot different through the extra income provided because i knwo a lot of peopel would still be buying a merc pack a month if they got a themed suit and weapon/equipment BPO, the 4k AUR and the booster like before. for me, i like this new found passion the devs have for DUST but a part of me can't help but feel sad that its come 12months too late Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner
Blueprint For Murder Immortal Guides 154	Posted - 2014.10.21 21:55:00 - [23] - Quote I would imagine your influx and expenditure of isk should be within a ratio that is far out of balance do to certain alliances farming each other in pc for isk. These things in a way were meant to balance the game and are in part the reason it is so out of balance now. The reduction of prices I would imagine were put in place as an attempt to balance this allowing most players to afford the vehicles that are an easy buy for those that cheat/cheated.... but who knows. New, delicious, Soylent green the miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.
The Master Race Immortal Guides 154	Posted - 2014.10.21 21:55:00 - [24] - Quote I would imagine your influx and expenditure of isk should be within a ratio that is far out of balance do to certain alliances farming each other in pc for isk. These things in a way were meant to balance the game and are in part the reason it is so out of balance now. The reduction of prices I would imagine were put in place as an attempt to balance this allowing most players to afford the vehicles that are an easy buy for those that cheat/cheated.... but who knows. New, delicious, Soylent green the miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.
KA24DERT TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 669	Posted - 2014.10.21 22:01:00 - [25] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: KA24DERT wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Because PC ruined the economy and CCP selling a few extra BPOs will help "keep the lights on" so to speak. No one is forcing anyone to buy a BPO, people just want them. Good for CCP=good for players. Tell me more about how people fighting in PC and burning suits in all out wars ruins the economy, while an item that prints INFINITE free suits is good for the economy. Well, I'd say the TRILLIONS OF isk that now exist making it so people can run Proto 24/7 in pubs broke the economy. Not the suits weapons or mods that cost between 300-1500 isk each. How much does a round of EMP S cost in Eve? How many such rounds are burned every day? Is ammo an important part of the Eve economy? Making infinite amounts of an economy's consumable is unsustainable, and the only reason CCP can get away with selling more BPOs is that the Dust economy is a dead end, and will never interact with Eve. If the economy would interact with Eve, the influx of ISK would cause the "problem" of players running running proto gear just as you have the "problem" of players in Eve running bling-fits. Honestly proto gear offers such a marginal advantage that the main complaints against it are psychological. I've run with people doing **** poor, going negative with abysmal warpoints, cussing to the sky about those nasty proto stompers, when it's really a skill and effort thing. Matchmaking is the solution to closing that disparity, and anyone who disagrees also probably has delusions about being able to out-dunk Micheal Jordan, were he in sandals and you in some Air Jordans. But another issue is, where would the ISK come from in Dust to run that proto gear if a player chooses to? The only actual revenue in the game was slammed shut in an overreactive measure, instead of being toned down with a few iterative measures to reduce income and increase accessibility to other players. And THAT has caused a PERMANENT disparity that fuels the hatred for "proto stompers".
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution 1126	Posted - 2014.10.21 22:22:00 - [26] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Because PC ruined the economy and CCP selling a few extra BPOs will help "keep the lights on" so to speak. No one is forcing anyone to buy a BPO, people just want them. Good for CCP=good for players. More ISK was being made daily from people repeat farming alt accounts, yet it was totally PC that was ruining the "economy" Amarrica! It's Not Safe to Swim.
Newbs With Bewbs xx The Fairies xx 95	Posted - 2014.10.21 22:36:00 - [27] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: KA24DERT wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Because PC ruined the economy and CCP selling a few extra BPOs will help "keep the lights on" so to speak. No one is forcing anyone to buy a BPO, people just want them. Good for CCP=good for players. Tell me more about how people fighting in PC and burning suits in all out wars ruins the economy, while an item that prints INFINITE free suits is good for the economy. Well, I'd say the TRILLIONS OF isk that now exist making it so people can run Proto 24/7 in pubs broke the economy. Not the suits weapons or mods that cost between 300-1500 isk each. The money made from PC isn't really used for proto stomping. I run proto 24/7 because I don't make a net loss from it, just like all the other players I know that can afford to do it. 99% of the money made from PC is in the control of a select few who just keep it (like in RL). Thats like saying the 1000's Titans stockpiled in Eve ruin their ecconomy or the Billions of -ús billionaires have ruin the real world economy...... I am LHughes. Did you like your handjob?
Newbs With Bewbs xx The Fairies xx 95	Posted - 2014.10.21 22:39:00 - [28] - Quote The 'economy' is made up by the majority & the vast majority in Dust cannot afford to run Proto even half the time. Also BPO's could effect the 'economy' if isk was salvaged from them in any way but it isn't. I am LHughes. Did you like your handjob?

GM Archduke Game Masters C C P Alliance 670	Posted - 2014.10.21 23:25:00 - [29] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: I remember it was Logibro that posted that BPO's were going away because they "did not work how we want them to." A lot of people were of the opinion it was because it was bad for the economy to have something that never went away. I am curious why BPO's are coming back in and "for a limited time only." What changed exactly? It's pretty simple, really - you guys, the Mercenaries in DUST 514 wanted BPOs back, at least that's what we've seen here on the Forum, and that's what we've been told in-game by our players. GM Archduke CCP Customer Support \| EVE Online \| DUST 514

voidfaction Nos Nothi 604	Posted - 2014.10.21 23:58:00 - [30] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: I remember it was Logibro that posted that BPO's were going away because they "did not work how we want them to." A lot of people were of the opinion it was because it was bad for the economy to have something that never went away. I am curious why BPO's are coming back in and "for a limited time only." What changed exactly? It's pretty simple, really - you guys, the Mercenaries in DUST 514 wanted BPOs back, at least that's what we've seen here on the Forum, and that's what we've been told in-game by our players. The Mercenaries are all the time asking for RESPECS too. At least that's what I see here on the forums, and that's what i have seen in-game by other players.



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