If the dust team could pull this off they would be hailed as heroes.

They can change the max playrecount up or down at will. For example the squad cup was aswell under special contracts and the player limit was 12 (6vs6). So they surely can test 32vs32.

or making my PS3 kill itself.

There's hotlines you can call for that. Is your PS3 feeling depressed?

Seriously though, Breakin is highlighting the real issue.

Sorry but 32vs32 has never beeing tested not even in closed beta.

I would not assume "has not been tested publicly" equates to "has not been tested". Namely, since if it is tested, and leads to Bad Things Happening(TM) like melted PS3s, they won't push it out to live servers. The fact that the website used to say DUST 514 supported 24 vs. 24, and that never happened, to me generally means they thought it would work to up the player count, and it didn't.

I don't know for sure what has or hasn't been tested, but "testing" is something that is done internally. Not on consumer PS3s.

We have the "special contracts" category on the matchfinder so why dont you try to test 32v32 there? Give the participants a extra amount of ISK and SP. Ofcourse you need to double the vehicle quota aswell. See it as a testrun for PC changes and see how the community reacts there. The maps certainly are large enough to support those player numbers.

So why did we have then a closed beta? To milk peoples wallets?

So why did we have then a closed beta? To milk peoples wallets?

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We have the "special contracts" category on the matchfinder so why dont you try to test 32v32 there? Give the participants a extra amount of ISK and SP. Ofcourse you need to double the vehicle quota aswell. See it as a testrun for PC changes and see how the community reacts there. The maps certainly are large enough to support those player numbers.

Start slow, go to 18 v 18 (so each side can have 3 full squads).

See how well that goes for a month or three and then maybe try 24v24, though I think that should be the cap (at least until they want to bring it up to 72v72).

In any case, keep it divisible by 6.

Maybe ditch all the small maps first, could you even fit 64 players in some of those maps?

That is a good point. We have the special contracts section of the battle finder, why not have different sized contracts in there. Start with 18 v 18 and if the PS3s don't melt ramp up to 24 v 24 and eventually 32 v 32. If CCP notices lots of people dropping out of the battles it would probably indicate freezing PS3s which would tell them what the machines can actually handle.

Come on CCP let us test larger battles in hotfix ernie.

I agree completely. Start small and then work our way up.

18vs18 is a very good start since that will mean we would have 3 full squads per team rather than two and two-thirds squads on both teams.

But I think there is a problem and I don't think it has anything to do with PS3 potentially dying to this. The maps are designed mostly for the 16vs16 matches. This will likely require readjusting the redline which I'm not really sure if it's possible to adjust with a hotfix without resorting to a client-side update.

MAG had up to 256 players on a single map. Why cant dust have 32vs32 (64 players)? If you tell me that more then 32 players would melt the console you are blatantly lying. And the worst thing that could happend is that the PS3 locks up which it allready does every now and then for unknown reasons.

Largely because MAG is a completely different game, so the amounts of resources it uses for different things is very different. Having not played MAG myself, nor knowing what engine it's built on, my guess is that MAG uses very little additional resources per player. DUST has a lot of complicated (and in some cases, overcomplicated) mechanics that can add a lot of performance overhead.

Additionally, multiple players have reported excessive issues with older builds of DUST hastening the deaths of their consoles. I do not know whether or not there is any merit to those claims, but it's worthwhile to note that releasing an update that can break PS3s would be a bad idea.

CCP intended the game to have more players on each side than it does, so I have to assume there is a good reason they do not allow 32v32. It's not like they don't want to do it.

I would not assume "has not been tested publicly" equates to "has not been tested". Namely, since if it is tested, and leads to Bad Things Happening(TM) like melted PS3s, they won't push it out to live servers. The fact that the website used to say DUST 514 supported 24 vs. 24, and that never happened, to me generally means they thought it would work to up the player count, and it didn't.

I don't know for sure what has or hasn't been tested, but "testing" is something that is done internally. Not on consumer PS3s.

I don't know, TechMechMeds. Painted wall map edges would bring back some memories. o_o I can ask if anyone knows where the heart of the bloat in DUST's limitations is, don't know if I'll get an answer, or an answer I can share.

The maps itself are too huge. I mean the parts of the maps which are actually not really accessible. Like get on manus peak and you can see ground for miles and even some sockets in the distance. That are wasted resources which are in the redline. The playground itself is allready big enough to play on but the excessive areas which are in the redline are overkill cause those need to be loaded aswell.

MAG had up to 256 players on a single map. Why cant dust have 32vs32 (64 players)? If you tell me that more then 32 players would melt the console you are blatantly lying. And the worst thing that could happend is that the PS3 locks up which it allready does every now and then for unknown reasons. Hell on some skirmish maps i need to search for minutes to actually find somebody to shot at. And look it from the PC match side of things: more players= more kills= faster clone depletion= more ISK generated for the winning team (and more salvage ofcourse)

I see this as being more of a Legion thing. One good aspect of having huge teams is that it's easier to balance each side, as outliers are smoothed out and don't stick out as badly. I hope we can get 64 v 64 (or more) in Legion.

I would love to see larger battles. That being said I would love to see higher frame rates even more.
As such I think the one should happen before the other. Or more bluntly, if larger battles cannot be turned on without even lower framerates then the baseline for framerates needs to be higher than what it currently is.
(All of this is my own personal opinion as a player and should not be confused with a CCP response in any way).

Start slow, go to 18 v 18 (so each side can have 3 full squads).

See how well that goes for a month or three and then maybe try 24v24, though I think that should be the cap . . .

In any case, keep it divisible by 6.