DUST Search - Is Nova Knifing still cool?

Maken Tosch wrote:

Henrietta Unknown wrote:

Draxus Prime wrote:

Henrietta Unknown wrote:

Maken Tosch wrote:

PS: Why are people forgetting that right now we have the Sidearm Expert Challenge going on? It's no surprise people are using the knives to get as many kills as possible for a single day so they can get a chance to name a pair of officer knives and get a handful of free copies as a reward.

It's because you or musturd is taking the lead for sure.

yeah Maken is really good and I'm only doing the SP part of the event (did), unfortunately I'm pretty sure that Musturd quit the game, but I might be wrong

He's running PRO Scouts in Ambush with mlt knives.

I'm trying to stick with the standard/advanced level suit because those proto suits are expensive to lose. Occasionally I do use some protos if my wallet is willing to allow me. Another fit I'm experimenting with is the Amarr Scout A/1-Series where I fit enhanced armor plates. It slows me down like hell but it allows me to absorb more hits so I can take down an extra merc or at least even the odds against a heavy. Unfortunately such a fit puts me at a disadvantage against other scouts. But in every suit I bring along a pair of Flux Grenades to knock out the shields so I have a better chance of killing my targets. Fluxes are a safe bet if you don't want to kill your target with it before being able to stab it and you can spam a room full of enemy equipment for extra WPs and without accidentally killing yourself in the process.

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Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 3841	Posted - 2014.10.05 14:47:00 - [1] - Quote I've been seeing sooooo many knifers lately and I've been receiving record amounts of hate mail. Is it still considered a HARD profession or is it scrubby and fotm? :'( "War determines not who is right, but who is left." Closed Beta Vet Scout before it was cool
hfderrtgvcd 643	Posted - 2014.10.05 15:26:00 - [2] - Quote Draxus Prime wrote: I've been seeing sooooo many knifers lately and I've been receiving record amounts of hate mail. Is it still considered a HARD profession or is it scrubby and fotm? :'( Real men use militia nova knives You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
Dreis Shadowweaver Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 255	Posted - 2014.10.05 15:39:00 - [3] - Quote Knives are, in my eyes, no longer cool, and I predict that a Nova Knife nerf will be called for pretty soon. Join the 'Nova Knifers United' channel I've only ever known 1.8... Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
Yeeeuuuupppp Vengeance Unbound 628	Posted - 2014.10.05 15:48:00 - [4] - Quote Stopped being cool when they stopped being challenging "Removed for hurting my feelings" - CCP PSN: GMANCASH Rage Proficiency V
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 4598	Posted - 2014.10.05 15:52:00 - [5] - Quote Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: Knives are, in my eyes, no longer cool, and I predict that a Nova Knife nerf will be called for pretty soon. Just because they are no longer niche does not mean they are now OP. It still has a range of just 2.5 m. It still takes skill. I don't see any reason for any nerfs to happen. You can always tell a Millford Minja
Vesperz Inner.Hell 117	Posted - 2014.10.05 16:06:00 - [6] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Just because they are no longer niche does not mean they are now OP. It still has a range of just 2.5 m. It still takes skill. I don't see any reason for any nerfs to happen. This. Live by honor, kill by stealth.
Prinny Waters Immortal Guides 0	Posted - 2014.10.05 18:18:00 - [7] - Quote Problem is, it is so hard to use nova knife without cloaking that everyone assumes you cloaked to if you get 'em from behind. Since cloaking changes knives from a pimp-as-it-gets proof of skill to "If I don't screw up big time, I win" everyone is going to assume you took the easy route. Props if you knife without cloaking, I bear a grudge if you do.
Spademan Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3983	Posted - 2014.10.05 18:22:00 - [8] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: Knives are, in my eyes, no longer cool, and I predict that a Nova Knife nerf will be called for pretty soon. Just because they are no longer niche does not mean they are now OP. It still has a range of just 2.5 m. It still takes skill. I don't see any reason for any nerfs to happen. It can also still be countered by stepping backwards and shooting. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
Henrietta Unknown Nox Lupos 336	Posted - 2014.10.05 18:27:00 - [9] - Quote Spademan wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: Knives are, in my eyes, no longer cool, and I predict that a Nova Knife nerf will be called for pretty soon. Just because they are no longer niche does not mean they are now OP. It still has a range of just 2.5 m. It still takes skill. I don't see any reason for any nerfs to happen. It can also still be countered by stepping backwards and shooting. Or rushing and sidestepping to pass the scout's peripheral and take him down while he's looking around. Give the Magsex some love.
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3748	Posted - 2014.10.05 18:55:00 - [10] - Quote Don't you know? Flaylock are all the rage now.

Billy Jr Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 13	Posted - 2014.10.05 19:03:00 - [11] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Don't you know? Flaylock are all the rage now. Don't you know? Flaylock+NK+No HP mod MinScout= Masochist's Wet Dream
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Pure Evil. Capital Punishment. 1992	Posted - 2014.10.05 19:07:00 - [12] - Quote Prinny Waters wrote: Problem is, it is so hard to use nova knife without cloaking that everyone assumes you cloaked to if you get 'em from behind. Since cloaking changes knives from a pimp-as-it-gets proof of skill to "If I don't screw up big time, I win" everyone is going to assume you took the easy route. Props if you knife without cloaking, I bear a grudge if you do. I knife without cloaking. I rely on LOS and dampening and speed. I have a cloak on my knife fit but i forget i have it lol. I should replace it with something else. PSN Sil4ntChaozz Matari in Dust & Out ASD artist, Skater, Amatuer Parkour Practitioner Mk.0, Gk.0, & 'Sever' Scout
Demon Buddah Pure Evil. Capital Punishment. 237	Posted - 2014.10.05 19:22:00 - [13] - Quote I still think it's cool. Sure it's a little easier and stuff but that doesn't make it uncool. Even if you're using a cloak. I use a cloak and knife, I have used the knife before the cloak was even introduced. It's still fun, cool or uncool I'm gonna knife. I like it. Hate mail makes me happy so by all means, send em my way ^_^
Henrietta Unknown Nox Lupos 337	Posted - 2014.10.05 19:27:00 - [14] - Quote My experiences across different maps have shaped how I build particular fittings (and are part of the reason I lack fitting space). City: No cloak, rush from the side or behind and use walls/boxes/various cover as my "cloak", kincats and eWar are helpful. Open Map: Cloak necessary to avoid rifles/sniper rifles/bolt pistols/HMG's/ etcetera..., cardiac and kincats, eWar not as crucial due to being able to spy incoming hostiles from a distance Give the Magsex some love.
Pseudogenesis Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 732	Posted - 2014.10.05 22:54:00 - [15] - Quote The knives will always be cool, baby. Stabby-stabber extraordinaire I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9651	Posted - 2014.10.06 00:17:00 - [16] - Quote Prinny Waters wrote: Problem is, it is so hard to use nova knife without cloaking that everyone assumes you cloaked to if you get 'em from behind. Since cloaking changes knives from a pimp-as-it-gets proof of skill to "If I don't screw up big time, I win" everyone is going to assume you took the easy route. Props if you knife without cloaking, I bear a grudge if you do. Sometimes I have to cloak. The principle reason is that I am noticing more and more people checking their six and I also have to deal with snipers. Besides, cloaks are no longer easy mode like they use to be. Everyone seems to have adapted to have hawk eyes since the shimmer kind of makes you stand out. The shimmer make you stand out even more if the map happens to be even slightly dark. At that point, I might as well run without the cloak and rely on the terrain because the contrast will make me stand out to a sniper. They also develop a noise when decloaking. Anyone who is paying attention at all will notice the sound and start evading (happened to me a lot). But anyways, I don't see knives ever getting a nerf anytime in the future. You can't sprint-charge with them, you can't throw them, and if you miss your mark -- which does happen a lot -- you're screwed. You'll also need to wear expensive proto gear to be able to OHK your target unless you're targeting other scouts which makes it even more challenging because most other scouts are wielding shotguns which have an advantage over you already. Knives, are ok where they are. They are just everywhere because CCP finally decided to release militia variant knives which have an even small base damage than that of the standard knives. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Henrietta Unknown Nox Lupos 340	Posted - 2014.10.06 01:19:00 - [17] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: PS: Why are people forgetting that right now we have the Sidearm Expert Challenge going on? It's no surprise people are using the knives to get as many kills as possible for a single day so they can get a chance to name a pair of officer knives and get a handful of free copies as a reward. It's because you or musturd is taking the lead for sure. Give the Magsex some love.
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 3846	Posted - 2014.10.06 10:14:00 - [18] - Quote Henrietta Unknown wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: PS: Why are people forgetting that right now we have the Sidearm Expert Challenge going on? It's no surprise people are using the knives to get as many kills as possible for a single day so they can get a chance to name a pair of officer knives and get a handful of free copies as a reward. It's because you or musturd is taking the lead for sure. yeah Maken is really good and I'm only doing the SP part of the event (did), unfortunately I'm pretty sure that Musturd quit the game, but I might be wrong "War determines not who is right, but who is left." Closed Beta Vet Scout before it was cool
Henrietta Unknown Nox Lupos 344	Posted - 2014.10.06 14:57:00 - [19] - Quote Draxus Prime wrote: Henrietta Unknown wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: PS: Why are people forgetting that right now we have the Sidearm Expert Challenge going on? It's no surprise people are using the knives to get as many kills as possible for a single day so they can get a chance to name a pair of officer knives and get a handful of free copies as a reward. It's because you or musturd is taking the lead for sure. yeah Maken is really good and I'm only doing the SP part of the event (did), unfortunately I'm pretty sure that Musturd quit the game, but I might be wrong He's running PRO Scouts in Ambush with mlt knives. Give the Magsex some love.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9662	Posted - 2014.10.06 18:45:00 - [20] - Quote Henrietta Unknown wrote: Draxus Prime wrote: Henrietta Unknown wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: PS: Why are people forgetting that right now we have the Sidearm Expert Challenge going on? It's no surprise people are using the knives to get as many kills as possible for a single day so they can get a chance to name a pair of officer knives and get a handful of free copies as a reward. It's because you or musturd is taking the lead for sure. yeah Maken is really good and I'm only doing the SP part of the event (did), unfortunately I'm pretty sure that Musturd quit the game, but I might be wrong He's running PRO Scouts in Ambush with mlt knives. I'm trying to stick with the standard/advanced level suit because those proto suits are expensive to lose. Occasionally I do use some protos if my wallet is willing to allow me. Another fit I'm experimenting with is the Amarr Scout A/1-Series where I fit enhanced armor plates. It slows me down like hell but it allows me to absorb more hits so I can take down an extra merc or at least even the odds against a heavy. Unfortunately such a fit puts me at a disadvantage against other scouts. But in every suit I bring along a pair of Flux Grenades to knock out the shields so I have a better chance of killing my targets. Fluxes are a safe bet if you don't want to kill your target with it before being able to stab it and you can spam a room full of enemy equipment for extra WPs and without accidentally killing yourself in the process. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.

postapo wastelander Wasteland Desert Rangers 148	Posted - 2014.10.06 19:15:00 - [21] - Quote hfderrtgvcd wrote: Draxus Prime wrote: I've been seeing sooooo many knifers lately and I've been receiving record amounts of hate mail. Is it still considered a HARD profession or is it scrubby and fotm? :'( Real men use militia nova knives Real man uses for knifin' Flaylock "The human being was not chosen to be a god..the god himself should become a human being."
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 3848	Posted - 2014.10.06 21:56:00 - [22] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Henrietta Unknown wrote: Draxus Prime wrote: Henrietta Unknown wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: PS: Why are people forgetting that right now we have the Sidearm Expert Challenge going on? It's no surprise people are using the knives to get as many kills as possible for a single day so they can get a chance to name a pair of officer knives and get a handful of free copies as a reward. It's because you or musturd is taking the lead for sure. yeah Maken is really good and I'm only doing the SP part of the event (did), unfortunately I'm pretty sure that Musturd quit the game, but I might be wrong He's running PRO Scouts in Ambush with mlt knives. I'm trying to stick with the standard/advanced level suit because those proto suits are expensive to lose. Occasionally I do use some protos if my wallet is willing to allow me. Another fit I'm experimenting with is the Amarr Scout A/1-Series where I fit enhanced armor plates. It slows me down like hell but it allows me to absorb more hits so I can take down an extra merc or at least even the odds against a heavy. Unfortunately such a fit puts me at a disadvantage against other scouts. But in every suit I bring along a pair of Flux Grenades to knock out the shields so I have a better chance of killing my targets. Fluxes are a safe bet if you don't want to kill your target with it before being able to stab it and you can spam a room full of enemy equipment for extra WPs and without accidentally killing yourself in the process. I'm still using Ishukones and stomping pubs, haven't got less then 18 kills this week in a match and haven't gotten me then 68 :p "War determines not who is right, but who is left." Closed Beta Vet Scout before it was cool


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