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stitcheract
Savage Bullet
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Posted - 2014.10.02 17:37:00 -
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Played 4 matches all 4 I ended up on the bunch of randoms side,
Going against 2 full squads of proto stompers on the other side.
The level of frustration I reached was just not cool.
I always end on top 5 or top 2 cause I bring uplinks,I forge when is needed and I scout the **** out of proto stompers.
But when u feel like you are then only one doing something is just unfair and unbalanced.
From the top 5 down the scores I have seen are horrid.
Negatives in the double digits,why am I pair up with these noobs that only shoot and bring nothing to the game?
And on top of that I can't even enjoy drop ships anymore,so all the fun for me about this game is lost and as such I will stop convincing myself that there is some resemblance of what this game once was.
Oh and I want to apologize to Ernesto Romero I think that was his name from corp halo ? Your score of 2/20 made me send you an email to just quit dust.
Sorry dude my frustration got the best out of me.
I will quit for you, my 47.500.000 life time sp can just rott now.
So long fellow dusters. ......GǪbut I am done.
Oh and for those who said u will be back in a week..nope not happening this game is garbage now. |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1601
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Posted - 2014.10.02 17:38:00 -
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In with the required "can i haz ur isk"....
Sorry to hear four rounds of getting stomped caused you to quit. That happens sometimes. |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
3478
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Posted - 2014.10.02 17:39:00 -
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Did you get a picture of the EOM screen and send it to [email protected]? If what you say it true then CCP would like to know so they can fix it in the future...
He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
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valad II
NoGameNoLife
184
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Posted - 2014.10.02 17:45:00 -
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stitcheract wrote:Played 4 matches all 4 I ended up on the bunch of randoms side,
Going against 2 full squads of proto stompers on the other side.
The level of frustration I reached was just not cool.
I always end on top 5 or top 2 cause I bring uplinks,I forge when is needed and I scout the **** out of proto stompers.
But when u feel like you are then only one doing something is just unfair and unbalanced.
From the top 5 down the scores I have seen are horrid.
Negatives in the double digits,why am I pair up with these noobs that only shoot and bring nothing to the game?
And on top of that I can't even enjoy drop ships anymore,so all the fun for me about this game is lost and as such I will stop convincing myself that there is some resemblance of what this game once was.
Oh and I want to apologize to Ernesto Romero I think that was his name from corp halo ? Your score of 2/20 made me send you an email to just quit dust.
Sorry dude my frustration got the best out of me.
I will quit for you, my 47.500.000 life time sp can just rott now.
So long fellow dusters. ......GǪbut I am done.
Oh and for those who said u will be back in a week..nope not happening this game is garbage now.
Breathe deeply. Smoke something, drink something, kick a wife, kiss a dog and relax. This games matchmaking is still horsesh!t. You have to accept them matches where you come up against squads. Just run trolly fits, snipe, AV, jihadii jeep.
Find a chat channel to find a squad. Anime Empire is always (usually) full with players looking for squads.
Good luck and see you this weekend. |
stitcheract
Savage Bullet
3
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Posted - 2014.10.02 18:05:00 -
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I understand your point of view u guys still have love for the game,for me now this game is just like a bad ex that still tries to keep you wanting her.
But my love for dust has died since tth update.
Hurt me with the nerf of drop ships witch I skilled up to level 5 to get phucked in the ass.
And now this match making bullshit. Nothing for me to enjoy.
And well I had my fun..any way I can sell my dren suits,my dragonfly's,and a bunch of other blue prints?
And about using crappy suits..it will only frustrate me even more..thank you thou. |
valad II
NoGameNoLife
184
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Posted - 2014.10.02 18:08:00 -
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stitcheract wrote:I understand your point of view u guys still have love for the game,for me now this game is just like a bad ex that still tries to keep you wanting her.
But my love for dust has died since tth update.
Hurt me with the nerf of drop ships witch I skilled up to level 5 to get phucked in the ass.
And now this match making bullshit. Nothing for me to enjoy.
And well I had my fun..any way I can sell my dren suits,my dragonfly's,and a bunch of other blue prints?
And about using crappy suits..it will only frustrate me even more..thank you thou.
Nope, no selling blueprints.
Everyone has had something nerfed. I don't think there is anything in the game that hasn't been.
Can I haz ur isk? Or send it to the dood you told to quit. |
rithu
Freek Coalition
Freek Alliance
153
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Posted - 2014.10.02 18:11:00 -
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So...with 47 mil SP u couldnt do anything? U must suck  |
ACT1ON BASTARD
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
194
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Posted - 2014.10.02 18:37:00 -
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Wow youre just gonna let that account die, give it to me son. I dont care about isk, i just wanna r*pe face with a new account. |
Riruodo
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
287
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Posted - 2014.10.02 18:38:00 -
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stitcheract wrote:Oh and I want to apologize to Ernesto Romero I think that was his name from corp halo ? Your score of 2/20 made me send you an email to just quit dust.
Sorry dude my frustration got the best out of me.
I will quit for you
If you are a true gentleman, you should give your isk to Ernesto Romero before biomassing.
Utena Tenjou is my prince in shining armor.
Starter corp for life!!
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
1630
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Posted - 2014.10.02 19:05:00 -
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stitcheract wrote:I understand your point of view u guys still have love for the game,for me now this game is just like a bad ex that still tries to keep you wanting her.
But my love for dust has died since tth update.
Hurt me with the nerf of drop ships witch I skilled up to level 5 to get phucked in the ass.
And now this match making bullshit. Nothing for me to enjoy.
And well I had my fun..any way I can sell my dren suits,my dragonfly's,and a bunch of other blue prints?
And about using crappy suits..it will only frustrate me even more..thank you thou. your main problem was playing in the day time. there is a unusual amount of 10 year old little morons at that time.
KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
General Tso's Alliance
3746
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Posted - 2014.10.02 19:28:00 -
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Happens to me every match. I only win when I'm in a full squad cuz of having a bunch of randoms when I'm solo.
http://imgur.com/OytqOW0
This wasn't bad but still look at my teams scores. Great job.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
4455
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Posted - 2014.10.02 19:32:00 -
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stitcheract wrote:I understand your point of view u guys still have love for the game,for me now this game is just like a bad ex that still tries to keep you wanting her.
But my love for dust has died since tth update.
Hurt me with the nerf of drop ships witch I skilled up to level 5 to get phucked in the ass.
And now this match making bullshit. Nothing for me to enjoy.
And well I had my fun..any way I can sell my dren suits,my dragonfly's,and a bunch of other blue prints?
And about using crappy suits..it will only frustrate me even more..thank you thou.
So, you loved the game when your play style was completely Over Powered,
And you get thrashed when you try playing a different play style.
Are you simply not willing to wait a few weeks for Assault Dropships to be fixed?
Or are you worried that when ADS get fixed they will merely be balanced and no longer OP?
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
9625
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Posted - 2014.10.02 19:32:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Did you get a picture of the EOM screen and send it to [email protected]? If what you say it true then CCP would like to know so they can fix it in the future...
What he says.
Also, can I please have some of your ISK?
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Duke Noobiam
S.e.V.e.N.
General Tso's Alliance
183
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Posted - 2014.10.02 19:40:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Happens to me every match. I only win when I'm in a full squad cuz of having a bunch of randoms when I'm solo. http://imgur.com/OytqOW0This wasn't bad but still look at my teams scores. Great job.
Probably because your MU is through the roof and team balancing has to match squads against you to even things out.
How do you kill that which has no life?
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
4850
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Posted - 2014.10.02 19:49:00 -
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It happens to me every match as well.
If they don't do something soon to make it hard on the droves of people that going into a match to snipe, drive LAVs, tank, and practice dropship piloting it's going to make me stop playing.
There are just flat out not enough people that are willing to push/defend points. THAT should be where you make your ISK, but it's not. The true profit is in doing nothing.
Level 4 Forum Warrior
PSN: wbrom42
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
4850
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Posted - 2014.10.02 19:52:00 -
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I was in a really good squad yesterday and we faced off against a squad that had one of the guys in the top 5 of alltime kills and some other good players.
Only one time did their team even get close to the point in a domination. It was like an ambush but with an objective that was being ignored. They didn't even get halfway through our shields on the MCC. But their KDR looked great.
Level 4 Forum Warrior
PSN: wbrom42
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stitcheract
Savage Bullet
3
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Posted - 2014.10.02 19:52:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Did you get a picture of the EOM screen and send it to [email protected]? If what you say it true then CCP would like to know so they can fix it in the future...
No sorry...didn't have desire for future gameplay after what it seemed to be a rule of thumb. |
stitcheract
Savage Bullet
3
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Posted - 2014.10.02 19:55:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:It happens to me every match as well.
If they don't do something soon to make it hard on the droves of people that going into a match to snipe, drive LAVs, tank, and practice dropship piloting it's going to make me stop playing.
There are just flat out not enough people that are willing to push/defend points. THAT should be where you make your ISK, but it's not. The true profit is in doing nothing.
And that is exactly what I mean...very well said |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
3487
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Posted - 2014.10.02 19:59:00 -
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stitcheract wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Did you get a picture of the EOM screen and send it to [email protected]? If what you say it true then CCP would like to know so they can fix it in the future... No sorry...didn't have desire for future gameplay after what it seemed to be a rule of thumb. So, you are willing to shitpost on the forums for 10 - 15 minutes instead of uploading 4 pictures to Imgur then emailing them to CCP (3 minutes tops)? You won't do this, even though there is a decent chance CCP could tweak their team building algorithm for the better.
Pathetic 
He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
4851
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Posted - 2014.10.02 20:00:00 -
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stitcheract wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:It happens to me every match as well.
If they don't do something soon to make it hard on the droves of people that going into a match to snipe, drive LAVs, tank, and practice dropship piloting it's going to make me stop playing.
There are just flat out not enough people that are willing to push/defend points. THAT should be where you make your ISK, but it's not. The true profit is in doing nothing. And that is exactly what I mean...very well said
Talk to Soraya Xel one of our CPMs about it.
He doesn't believe that the droves of people wanting to do whatever they want match after match is a problem for people trying to participate in the actual design of the gamemodes. I wouldn't have a problem with it either IF we didn't have to pay for the suits/gear that we use.
Level 4 Forum Warrior
PSN: wbrom42
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
3487
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Posted - 2014.10.02 20:01:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:I wouldn't have a problem with it either IF we didn't have to pay for the suits/gear that we use. BRB, going to go look through the Delta notes for that part about removing starter fittings...
He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
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Joel II X
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
3714
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Posted - 2014.10.02 20:02:00 -
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Duke Noobiam wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Happens to me every match. I only win when I'm in a full squad cuz of having a bunch of randoms when I'm solo. http://imgur.com/OytqOW0This wasn't bad but still look at my teams scores. Great job. Probably because your MU is through the roof and team balancing has to match squads against you to even things out.
I don't think it works that way. It matches up your team, so if you're very skilled, you'll get put with losers, and it'll do the same for the other side, but it won't match your team against theirs.
This is why I now lose 75% of my matches and decided to stop trying. The buckets of mu are not in my favor. |
stitcheract
Savage Bullet
4
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Posted - 2014.10.02 20:04:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:stitcheract wrote:I understand your point of view u guys still have love for the game,for me now this game is just like a bad ex that still tries to keep you wanting her.
But my love for dust has died since tth update.
Hurt me with the nerf of drop ships witch I skilled up to level 5 to get phucked in the ass.
And now this match making bullshit. Nothing for me to enjoy.
And well I had my fun..any way I can sell my dren suits,my dragonfly's,and a bunch of other blue prints?
And about using crappy suits..it will only frustrate me even more..thank you thou. So, you loved the game when your play style was completely Over Powered, And you get thrashed when you try playing a different play style. Are you simply not willing to wait a few weeks for Assault Dropships to be fixed? Or are you worried that when ADS get fixed they will merely be balanced and no longer OP?
I am not op on the ground I always run advance,and my drop ships I only used them to battle other drop ships..I don't get trash on the contrary, I get lots of isk for my kills and wp but I don't care about that,I care about feeling like I am the only one doing something on the match.
Like I see noobs not bringing uplinks..so I have to use my logi,then there are tanks blasting noobs left and right,I have to switch to my forge,than even me wasting time with all the support I end up with more kills than most of the team,so yes it gets tiring and frustration is just what I feel for most of every game I play,so if I don't enjoy the game anymore and it feels more like babysitting ..why continue playing right? |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
4851
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Posted - 2014.10.02 20:06:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:stitcheract wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Did you get a picture of the EOM screen and send it to [email protected]? If what you say it true then CCP would like to know so they can fix it in the future... No sorry...didn't have desire for future gameplay after what it seemed to be a rule of thumb. So, you are willing to shitpost on the forums for 10 - 15 minutes instead of uploading 4 pictures to Imgur then emailing them to CCP (3 minutes tops)? You won't do this, even though there is a decent chance CCP could tweak their team building algorithm for the better. Pathetic
I don't believe the problem is with the MU system. I don't think the system can work with so many solo players. What if players on your side decide to snipe? What if 5 people on your side decide to tank?
It's the solo/random play that screws everything up.
Level 4 Forum Warrior
PSN: wbrom42
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1192
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Posted - 2014.10.02 20:07:00 -
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Riruodo wrote:stitcheract wrote:Oh and I want to apologize to Ernesto Romero I think that was his name from corp halo ? Your score of 2/20 made me send you an email to just quit dust.
Sorry dude my frustration got the best out of me.
I will quit for you If you are a true gentleman, you should give your isk to Ernesto Romero before biomassing.
I was going to write something about a 47 million SP sending hatemail to some poor new guy who was trying his best but I liked this idea so I'll just endorse it instead.
Because, that's why.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
3487
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Posted - 2014.10.02 20:08:00 -
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stitcheract wrote:I care about feeling like I am the only one doing something on the match. Like I see noobs not bringing uplinks. Has it ever occurred to you that you could squad up with corpmates or channel-buddies? I don't trust a blueberry to do jack. You find a group of 5 other mercs, you squad with them, get on comms, say, "I need uplinks dropped.", they do it.
Join an active corp or channel. Learn where the best squads are hanging out.
He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
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stitcheract
Savage Bullet
4
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Posted - 2014.10.02 20:10:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Duke Noobiam wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Happens to me every match. I only win when I'm in a full squad cuz of having a bunch of randoms when I'm solo. http://imgur.com/OytqOW0This wasn't bad but still look at my teams scores. Great job. Probably because your MU is through the roof and team balancing has to match squads against you to even things out. I don't think it works that way. It matches up your team, so if you're very skilled, you'll get put with losers, and it'll do the same for the other side, but it won't match your team against theirs. This is why I now lose 75% of my matches and decided to stop trying. The buckets of mu are not in my favor.
That must be why I end up with scrubs then...makes sense,well even a better reason to quit,doomed to be thrown with the noobs ,is not what I wish but how come there is always a full squad or two on the other side.shouldn't they be thrown with scrubs as well and break them up from their squad? |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
4851
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Posted - 2014.10.02 20:10:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I wouldn't have a problem with it either IF we didn't have to pay for the suits/gear that we use. BRB, going to go look through the Delta notes for that part about removing starter fittings...
Don't bother dude.
I see what you are trying to imply. But it's simply not good game design to have people grind for years to gain access to gear to never be able to use it. But lets save that for a different thread.
Level 4 Forum Warrior
PSN: wbrom42
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
General Tso's Alliance
3746
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Posted - 2014.10.02 20:12:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Duke Noobiam wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Happens to me every match. I only win when I'm in a full squad cuz of having a bunch of randoms when I'm solo. http://imgur.com/OytqOW0This wasn't bad but still look at my teams scores. Great job. Probably because your MU is through the roof and team balancing has to match squads against you to even things out. I don't think it works that way. It matches up your team, so if you're very skilled, you'll get put with losers, and it'll do the same for the other side, but it won't match your team against theirs. This is why I now lose 75% of my matches and decided to stop trying. The buckets of mu are not in my favor.
I disagree with you. I think it does work that way. My MU is the same as that squad combined so they get put on the other team cuz of it and I'm stuck with no squads as a result.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
4851
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Posted - 2014.10.02 20:14:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:stitcheract wrote:I care about feeling like I am the only one doing something on the match. Like I see noobs not bringing uplinks. Has it ever occurred to you that you could squad up with corpmates or channel-buddies? I don't trust a blueberry to do jack. You find a group of 5 other mercs, you squad with them, get on comms, say, "I need uplinks dropped.", they do it. Join an active corp or channel. Learn where the best squads are hanging out.
I don't find squading up to help all that much to be honest. Especially when the majority of the 26 other players factoring in the MU are solo. You get a multiplier of some sort when in a squad. So your side will get shittier players than they would have if your 6 players had entered solo.
Level 4 Forum Warrior
PSN: wbrom42
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
3488
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Posted - 2014.10.02 20:15:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Don't bother dude.
I see what you are trying to imply. But it's simply not good game design to have people grind for years to gain access to gear to never be able to use it. But lets save that for a different thread. I can still adv and proto gear on my starter fittings. I fit adv plates to my starter frontline fitting; 2x adv plates and 1x std reactive. The cost of two adv modules is negligible, we're talking a few thousand ISK per fitting.
I also have the starter frontline fit as-is just in case I get put up against a superior force* I won't lose my shirt.
Adapt or die... or in OP's case biomass yourself.
*: sometimes it isn't just being put up against a squad in better fittings. Sometimes that squad managed to field weapons that have weapons that are effective against your tank style. Maybe they just have a kick-ass squad leader who is effectively issuing squad orders.
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Riruodo
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
291
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Posted - 2014.10.02 20:17:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:stitcheract wrote:I care about feeling like I am the only one doing something on the match. Like I see noobs not bringing uplinks. Has it ever occurred to you that you could squad up with corpmates or channel-buddies? I don't trust a blueberry to do jack. You find a group of 5 other mercs, you squad with them, get on comms, say, "I need uplinks dropped.", they do it. Join an active corp or channel. Learn where the best squads are hanging out. I don't find squading up to help all that much to be honest. Especially when the majority of the 26 other players factoring in the MU are solo. You get a multiplier of some sort when in a squad. So your side will get shittier players than they would have if your 6 players had entered solo. EDIT: I understand why Rattatti built this into the system, but an unintended consequence is to further incentivize solo play.
Is this how MU works? is there a way to sort of cheat the MU system by going into a battle solo, but once the battle starts to jump into squads?
Utena Tenjou is my prince in shining armor.
Starter corp for life!!
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
3488
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Posted - 2014.10.02 20:19:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:I don't find squading up to help all that much to be honest. You aren't getting in the right squads. The most fun I have is when I'm in a squad, and coincidentally, my K/D is vastly better when I'm in a squad.
He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
4852
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Posted - 2014.10.02 20:21:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Don't bother dude.
I see what you are trying to imply. But it's simply not good game design to have people grind for years to gain access to gear to never be able to use it. But lets save that for a different thread. I can still adv and proto gear on my starter fittings. I fit adv plates to my starter frontline fitting; 2x adv plates and 1x std reactive. I also have the starter frontline fit as-is just in case I get put up against a superior force* I won't lose my shirt. Adapt or die... or in OP's case biomass yourself. *: sometimes it isn't just being put up against a squad in better fittings. Sometimes that squad managed to field weapons that have weapons that are effective against your tank style. Maybe they just have a kick-ass squad leader who is effectively issuing squad orders.
There are squads out there that can take on 16 players with some help from the occasional sniper round, but I'm honestly not that great of a slayer. If it's 16 v 6 which happens a LOT then I end up in a heavy suit or something to try and kill as much as I can.
Sometimes squad leaders want to split up and try to win the match which very rarely ends well in the fun or ISK department. I prefer for the squad to find a good defensive place and let the fight come to me.
I've been in skirmishes where my squad is laying waste to damn near the entire enemy team and the blueberries can't even derp their way to the other points and hack something.
I'm dumbfounded that some players don't seem to have these issues. I love Dust but I find myself frustrated in a vast majority of matches I play because of all the solo, random blueberries not doing a damn thing.
Level 4 Forum Warrior
PSN: wbrom42
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stitcheract
Savage Bullet
4
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Posted - 2014.10.02 20:21:00 -
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Would make sense if they actually listen to vets but they only listen to noobs crying op this op that.
But you are right about the new game play, it just sucks.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
4852
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Posted - 2014.10.02 20:22:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I don't find squading up to help all that much to be honest. You aren't getting in the right squads. The most fun I have is when I'm in a squad, and coincidentally, my K/D is vastly better when I'm in a squad. Protip: find a Gallente logi that knows how to use an active scanner, squad with them. It's a good time.
I prefer to be in a squad as well, but you aren't paying attention.
The MU penalizes you further for being in a squad and you end up with even shittier blueberries than you would have if you were solo.
Level 4 Forum Warrior
PSN: wbrom42
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
4852
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Posted - 2014.10.02 20:23:00 -
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Riruodo wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:stitcheract wrote:I care about feeling like I am the only one doing something on the match. Like I see noobs not bringing uplinks. Has it ever occurred to you that you could squad up with corpmates or channel-buddies? I don't trust a blueberry to do jack. You find a group of 5 other mercs, you squad with them, get on comms, say, "I need uplinks dropped.", they do it. Join an active corp or channel. Learn where the best squads are hanging out. I don't find squading up to help all that much to be honest. Especially when the majority of the 26 other players factoring in the MU are solo. You get a multiplier of some sort when in a squad. So your side will get shittier players than they would have if your 6 players had entered solo. EDIT: I understand why Rattatti built this into the system, but an unintended consequence is to further incentivize solo play. Is this how MU works? is there a way to sort of cheat the MU system by going into a battle solo, but once the battle starts to jump into squads?
Yeah, but it's very unlikely that you'd all end up in the same match on the same side very often.
Level 4 Forum Warrior
PSN: wbrom42
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
3490
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Posted - 2014.10.02 20:26:00 -
[38] - Quote
Thor Odinson42 wrote:I prefer to be in a squad as well, but you aren't paying attention.
The MU penalizes you further for being in a squad and you end up with even shittier blueberries than you would have if you were solo. If what you say is true, and being in a squad will give you window-licking blueberries then it is happening to both teams. The other team will consist of a good squad (or group of solo randoms with good mu scores) and some window-licking redberries too.
He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
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stitcheract
Savage Bullet
4
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Posted - 2014.10.02 20:32:00 -
[39] - Quote
Ripley Riley wrote:stitcheract wrote:I care about feeling like I am the only one doing something on the match. Like I see noobs not bringing uplinks. Has it ever occurred to you that you could squad up with corpmates or channel-buddies? I don't trust a blueberry to do jack. You find a group of 5 other mercs, you squad with them, get on comms, say, "I need uplinks dropped.", they do it. Join an active corp or channel. Learn where the best squads are hanging out.
My corp used to be active,now with the hot fix most of them quit or are playing destiny,I see probably 3 to 4 people on the squad list,which I don't even know them cause they are new.
I was switching back and forth with destiny and dust,but now I think I will only play destiny,I don't get the level of frustration as I am getting now with dust.
I liked the social aspect of dust more than destiny's, but now I play solo most of the times and well why bother anymore. |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
3494
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Posted - 2014.10.02 20:35:00 -
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stitcheract wrote:My corp used to be active,now with the hot fix most of them quit God forbid you take a few minutes to find a new corporation or a new channel to hang out in Check out the recruitment forum. Post something in the Dust 514 subreddit.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
4852
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Posted - 2014.10.02 20:39:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I prefer to be in a squad as well, but you aren't paying attention.
The MU penalizes you further for being in a squad and you end up with even shittier blueberries than you would have if you were solo. If what you say is true, and being in a squad will give you window-licking blueberries then it is happening to both teams. The other team will consist of a good squad (or group of solo randoms with good mu scores) and some window-licking redberries too.
You need to start checking out your team chat when you deploy. It doesn't appear that you are noticing how many players are solo.
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PSN: wbrom42
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RayRay James
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
456
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Posted - 2014.10.02 20:40:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:I don't find squading up to help all that much to be honest.
That hurts man.
That really hurts...
I'm gonna go cry in corp now.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
3494
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Posted - 2014.10.02 20:45:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:You need to start checking out your team chat when you deploy. It doesn't appear that you are noticing how many players are solo. I don't notice, no, but then again I also don't care. If the blueberries on my team happen to figure out how to fire their weapon without killing themselves more power to them.
I care about my squad.
RayRay James wrote:That hurts man.
That really hurts...
I'm gonna go cry in corp now. I think you hurt Rayray's feelings. You should apologize.
He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
4852
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Posted - 2014.10.02 21:32:00 -
[44] - Quote
Ripley Riley wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:You need to start checking out your team chat when you deploy. It doesn't appear that you are noticing how many players are solo. I don't notice, no, but then again I also don't care. If the blueberries on my team happen to figure out how to fire their weapon without killing themselves more power to them. I care about my squad. RayRay James wrote:That hurts man.
That really hurts...
I'm gonna go cry in corp now. I think you hurt Rayray's feelings. You should apologize.
How can you not care? There is currently no reason for anyone to care about winning a match beyond just being competitive. That is the issue that has lead to the droves of players deployed solo.
-Lots of people have found that they can make far more ISK not trying to win (dying trying to defend/capturing points).
-Others have found that their KDR is better if they don't get too close to the points but position themselves to get plenty of kills. Sometimes they win, sometimes they lose.
-People tanking, sniping, dropshipping, LAVing when stuff needs to be done around objectives.
When you mix the vets that do what I just described above in with a bunch of new players that just don't have a clue it creates a lot of frustration. I'm not sure how anyone can be happy with the participation in pubs. Are you saying that you are?
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PSN: wbrom42
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Riruodo
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
295
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Posted - 2014.10.02 21:40:00 -
[45] - Quote
Thor Odinson42 wrote:How can you not care? There is currently no reason for anyone to care about winning a match beyond just being competitive. That is the issue that has lead to the droves of players deployed solo.
-Lots of people have found that they can make far more ISK not trying to win (dying trying to defend/capturing points).
-Others have found that their KDR is better if they don't get too close to the points but position themselves to get plenty of kills. Sometimes they win, sometimes they lose.
-People tanking, sniping, dropshipping, LAVing when stuff needs to be done around objectives.
When you mix the vets that do what I just described above in with a bunch of new players that just don't have a clue it creates a lot of frustration. I'm not sure how anyone can be happy with the participation in pubs. Are you saying that you are?
This^
very much so.
when I started I was all super excited about trying to win every match, and I would push myself to the extreme (and almost give myself a brain aneurysm). I would swear (but not too loudly) whenever I died, and I would constantly zerg rush (I think that's the term) a location, even if I was by myself.
Ah, to be a try hard noob, once again (lol, which was only a month ago).
And then around the Million Clone Challenge something clicked. Winning doesn't matter unless you're just looking to give yourself a pat on the back. There's no story, no level progression, we don't affect anything Eve side. This is just a very fun shootey type game.
so for a lot of people, and myself included, a good match isn't winning, a good match is going isk positive.
Utena Tenjou is my prince in shining armor.
Starter corp for life!!
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stitcheract
Savage Bullet
4
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Posted - 2014.10.02 21:45:00 -
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What for..done that many times over the last couple of years. |
Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
367
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Posted - 2014.10.02 21:51:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Did you get a picture of the EOM screen and send it to [email protected]? If what you say it true then CCP would like to know so they can fix it in the future...
REALLY! We have tons of photos of this! Got half the team going 1/17 and worst sometimes?! Lately it has been less due to matchmaking, and I think he just hit a bad patch?!
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
4856
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Posted - 2014.10.02 21:53:00 -
[48] - Quote
Riruodo wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:How can you not care? There is currently no reason for anyone to care about winning a match beyond just being competitive. That is the issue that has lead to the droves of players deployed solo.
-Lots of people have found that they can make far more ISK not trying to win (dying trying to defend/capturing points).
-Others have found that their KDR is better if they don't get too close to the points but position themselves to get plenty of kills. Sometimes they win, sometimes they lose.
-People tanking, sniping, dropshipping, LAVing when stuff needs to be done around objectives.
When you mix the vets that do what I just described above in with a bunch of new players that just don't have a clue it creates a lot of frustration. I'm not sure how anyone can be happy with the participation in pubs. Are you saying that you are? This^ very much so. when I started I was all super excited about trying to win every match, and I would push myself to the extreme (and almost give myself a brain aneurysm). I would swear (but not too loudly) whenever I died, and I would constantly zerg rush (I think that's the term) a location, even if I was by myself. Ah, to be a try hard noob, once again (lol, which was only a month ago). And then around the Million Clone Challenge something clicked. Winning doesn't matter unless you're just looking to give yourself a pat on the back. There's no story, no level progression, we don't affect anything Eve side. This is just a very fun shootey type game. so for a lot of people, and myself included, a good match isn't winning, a good match is going isk positive.
I wish you and the others here that like the team play aspect of Dust would send an app to Molon Labe. I'm not saying every squad gets broken down to the smallest detail, dropship insertions, etc., , but there are a lot of people there and really in General Tso's that love Dust and like to win. The more people that like to get on comms and attempt to go on 20 match win streaks the better.
Dust is an amazing game when there is strategy and teamwork. You can look at my posting history and see that I'm passionate about it. Either way, I think you are far more likely to stick around, get better, and have fun if you are in group.
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stitcheract
Savage Bullet
4
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Posted - 2014.10.02 21:54:00 -
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Riurodo with your comment I an know more than convinced that I am done with this game,probably most vets that do the work on the matches will get fed up of people like you.
And will leave the game for good as well.
So you isk hungry scrubs can shoot each other silly...thank you for letting me know your phucked up tactics. |
Riruodo
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
295
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Posted - 2014.10.02 22:10:00 -
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stitcheract wrote:Riurodo with your comment I an know more than convinced that I am done with this game,probably most vets that do the work on the matches will get fed up of people like you.
And will leave the game for good as well.
So you isk hungry scrubs can shoot each other silly...thank you for letting me know your phucked up tactics.
wait, whoa, what? how is it my fault that you're are leaving?
I didn't say I AFK, or that I just sit around the the redline. I push myself over and over again and it's really frustrating because I'm going up against super vets that can run proto whenever they want to. You know what sucks? When you spend all your sp you've been saving for a week to get a gun, a single gun, up to advanced so you can have a tiny fraction of hope against someone else,
and somebody with a (insert letter here)k. 0 proto suit kills you 10 times in a single match. You know how much SP I would have if I didn't participate in the MCC with an omega booster? 3 million. 3 million sp to go up against players with 20 or 30 or some even with 60 million sp.
Some matches I manage to get into the top half of the kill feed. There's even been a few where I've placed in the top 3, but more often than not I'm looking at the bottom half, with more deaths than kills. And it's not my fault because I'm trying. I really am.
And all I hear are get good or get out. I hate blue berries. yada yada. blah blah. It hurts. But I'm not going to let that stop me, but I'm not going to be stupid either.
I'm constantly being reminded in the forums and in game that I suck, so the least I can do is try to come out isk positive. Why should that make you want to quit? (--_-- )
rant over.
Utena Tenjou is my prince in shining armor.
Starter corp for life!!
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1193
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Posted - 2014.10.03 00:30:00 -
[51] - Quote
Heimdallr69 wrote:Joel II X wrote:Duke Noobiam wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Happens to me every match. I only win when I'm in a full squad cuz of having a bunch of randoms when I'm solo. http://imgur.com/OytqOW0This wasn't bad but still look at my teams scores. Great job. Probably because your MU is through the roof and team balancing has to match squads against you to even things out. I don't think it works that way. It matches up your team, so if you're very skilled, you'll get put with losers, and it'll do the same for the other side, but it won't match your team against theirs. This is why I now lose 75% of my matches and decided to stop trying. The buckets of mu are not in my favor. I disagree with you. I think it does work that way. My MU is the same as that squad combined so they get put on the other team cuz of it and I'm stuck with no squads as a result.
Those teams look pretty even to me. My understanding is that we get ranked on our Mu, #1 on Team A, Team B will then be filled until #1 score is matched. Squads have a modifier attached to their score. So, yeah, it more or less works that way. You went 45-1, is it really unfair that your team is a little bit weaker?
What I see happening is that teams are divided similar to yours were then players like you quit, leaving the rest of the team to get stomped.
Because, that's why.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Gentlemen's.Club
5265
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Posted - 2014.10.03 00:33:00 -
[52] - Quote
If i had a dollar for every time i was put on a team full of noobs and then lost i'd be pretty poor.
I is so l33t i carry the entire team no matter what!
EVE 21 Day Trial
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
1010
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Posted - 2014.10.03 00:33:00 -
[53] - Quote
can i haz ur isk
Pokemon master!
Death to all Swarm scrubs
CCP please buff AScR and normal AR :(
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The Master Race
Immortal Guides
54
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Posted - 2014.10.03 00:36:00 -
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I have been in matches where it was randoms vs a team made up of 2 guilds. I can't remember the names death something oh well yea it seems to me people have found out how to subvert the system already. It was prolly someone on the inside that wants there guild to get easy kills.
New, delicious, Soylent green the miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1193
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Posted - 2014.10.03 00:40:00 -
[55] - Quote
Thor Odinson42 wrote:Riruodo wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:How can you not care? There is currently no reason for anyone to care about winning a match beyond just being competitive. That is the issue that has lead to the droves of players deployed solo.
-Lots of people have found that they can make far more ISK not trying to win (dying trying to defend/capturing points).
-Others have found that their KDR is better if they don't get too close to the points but position themselves to get plenty of kills. Sometimes they win, sometimes they lose.
-People tanking, sniping, dropshipping, LAVing when stuff needs to be done around objectives.
When you mix the vets that do what I just described above in with a bunch of new players that just don't have a clue it creates a lot of frustration. I'm not sure how anyone can be happy with the participation in pubs. Are you saying that you are? This^ very much so. when I started I was all super excited about trying to win every match, and I would push myself to the extreme (and almost give myself a brain aneurysm). I would swear (but not too loudly) whenever I died, and I would constantly zerg rush (I think that's the term) a location, even if I was by myself. Ah, to be a try hard noob, once again (lol, which was only a month ago). And then around the Million Clone Challenge something clicked. Winning doesn't matter unless you're just looking to give yourself a pat on the back. There's no story, no level progression, we don't affect anything Eve side. This is just a very fun shootey type game. so for a lot of people, and myself included, a good match isn't winning, a good match is going isk positive. I wish you and the others here that like the team play aspect of Dust would send an app to Molon Labe. I'm not saying every squad gets broken down to the smallest detail, dropship insertions, etc., , but there are a lot of people there and really in General Tso's that love Dust and like to win. The more people that like to get on comms and attempt to go on 20 match win streaks the better. Dust is an amazing game when there is strategy and teamwork. You can look at my posting history and see that I'm passionate about it. Either way, I think you are far more likely to stick around, get better, and have fun if you are in group.
Here we have a problem. I run solo most of the time because my corp. is pretty good, if we run a squad it is almost always a stomp and I take no pleasure in having a high score at the expense of hapless newberries with 1/4 the SP I do. I save it for FW if I want to play hard, I could also do PC, but stomping pubs just isn't fun.
That isn't a criticism of you or how you play, just a design problem that a game like Dust has to struggle with. I wish that we could get people to lower their gear and tactics for pub and have the three modes act as tiers, but someone will pull a proto squad in pub and everyone else will follow suit.
Because, that's why.
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
General Tso's Alliance
3748
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Posted - 2014.10.03 00:42:00 -
[56] - Quote
Nothing Certain wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Joel II X wrote:Duke Noobiam wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Happens to me every match. I only win when I'm in a full squad cuz of having a bunch of randoms when I'm solo. http://imgur.com/OytqOW0This wasn't bad but still look at my teams scores. Great job. Probably because your MU is through the roof and team balancing has to match squads against you to even things out. I don't think it works that way. It matches up your team, so if you're very skilled, you'll get put with losers, and it'll do the same for the other side, but it won't match your team against theirs. This is why I now lose 75% of my matches and decided to stop trying. The buckets of mu are not in my favor. I disagree with you. I think it does work that way. My MU is the same as that squad combined so they get put on the other team cuz of it and I'm stuck with no squads as a result. Those teams look pretty even to me. My understanding is that we get ranked on our Mu, #1 on Team A, Team B will then be filled until #1 score is matched. Squads have a modifier attached to their score. So, yeah, it more or less works that way. You went 45-1, is it really unfair that your team is a little bit weaker? What I see happening is that teams are divided similar to yours were then players like you quit, leaving the rest of the team to get stomped.
That's not what I want but I don't want lose every fkn game cuz they get a full organized squad against ME one solo player. Yeah I'm good but why the fk should I lose every game or have to be in a full squad to win? Cuz I'm a good player I should be punished for playing solo?
Also I don't quit dumb ass. I'm not you.
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soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
1146
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Posted - 2014.10.03 00:52:00 -
[57] - Quote
my ps4 made me quit playing dust. i just can not go back to the three except for netflix and amazon and vuduu, crunchyroll. |
John ShepardIII
DUST University
908
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Posted - 2014.10.03 01:07:00 -
[58] - Quote
If your facing a bunch if Protostompers leave battle
The True Shepard.
Helping noobs everywhere. **Lvl .9 Forum Warrior
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1325
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Posted - 2014.10.03 01:11:00 -
[59] - Quote
Because of only four games?
I bet the OP himself has been stomping four or more games in a row...
People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
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